Hi Luc,

When you mentioned you wanted to add some newsgroups, I didn't think you were planning on gating this many into Fidonet.

I don't think anyone wants to turn Fidonet into usenet. Some people are concerned with the number of newsgroups you have listed so far.


Some questions:

1) How many more are you planning on putting on the echolist?

2) Will bbs users/sysops be able to reply to the newsgroup messages you are gating?

3) When you say you are filtering the groups, what kind of filtering are you doing?

Thanks for any information.

Take care,
Janis

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Hello, Janis.

Saturday November 29 2014 at 21:34, you wrote to Luc Mccarragher:

Thanks for any information.

Nick Andre has run a successful USENET<->Fidonet gate for many many years that doesn't involve the Fidonet backbone. Many of us use Nick for that reason: we don't want Fidonet turning into USENET.

Later,
Sean

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Hi Sean,

Thanks for any information.

Nick Andre has run a successful USENET<->Fidonet gate for many many years that >doesn't involve the Fidonet backbone. Many of us use Nick for that reason: we
don't want Fidonet turning into USENET.

Agreed there, Sean.

I don't mind some groups being gated, but the list here is growing.

Perhaps Luc will reply shortly and we'll see what he's thinking?

Take care,
Janis

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When you mentioned you wanted to add some newsgroups, I didn't think you were planning on gating this many into Fidonet.
I don't think anyone wants to turn Fidonet into usenet. Some people are concerned with the number of newsgroups you have listed so far.

I read the msgs about users concern

Some questions:

1) How many more are you planning on putting on the echolist?

2) Will bbs users/sysops be able to reply to the newsgroup messages you are gating?

3) When you say you are filtering the groups, what kind of filtering are you doing?

Thanks for any information.

1- no more Groups i just refresh some of them
2- Yes, users,sysop can reply/post/read in the groups
For me Side (BBS) it's working fine (in/out) , I feed JOE 1:249/303
3- I remove/filter: HTML,Binaries,encodeURL/TEXT,MAX 8k,MAX Subject 28 CHR,
UFT/ISO- Message Try to Keep only Ascii,and keyword like "Warez 4 free" ,
Sex, etc .... over 640+ Keywork/Phrases

You can See Then on my Server NNTP, Yes i have a usenet Server + backup
i use only for the bbs

THX,Luc



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Hi Sean!

Saturday November 29 2014 at 21:34, you wrote to Luc Mccarragher:

Thanks for any information.

Nick Andre has run a successful USENET<->Fidonet gate for many many years that >doesn't involve the Fidonet backbone. Many of us use Nick for that reason: we
don't want Fidonet turning into USENET.

I agree, I don't want Fidonet and Usenet combined. They are two separate networks and remained the same. One main issue I've had over the years with Usenet is so much spam. Fidonet has been a great network and has never needed to be joined with another network to be successful. There are free Usenet (for
now) news servers out there that are separate from ISPs that are available. I cannot believe there are already 20+ newsgroups already in the process of being
added. I don't mind SysOps adding their own message area from time to time but
this is too much.

Sincerely,
Jon Justvig

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* An ongoing debate between Luc Mccarragher and Janis Kracht rages on ...

I don't think anyone (except maybe yourself) wants a wholesale import of usenet
into FIDONet. Listing on the Echolist is one thing (it's international and broad enough of scope to handle your echoes) but putting all of them on the backbone would be time consuming to say the least.

Like Sean mentioned, anyone can set up a feed from you for the desired echoes outside of the Backbone and still keep everyone happy, so why don't we try that
first?

You're welcome to utilize the Echolist as custom zones did in the past. :)

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Hello, Janis.

Saturday November 29 2014 at 22:42, you wrote to me:

I don't mind some groups being gated, but the list here is growing.

A bit too much.

Perhaps Luc will reply shortly and we'll see what he's thinking?

Hope so.

Later,
Sean

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Hello, Jon.

Saturday November 29 2014 at 22:55, you wrote to me:

added. I don't mind SysOps adding their own message area from time to time but this is too much.

I recall some time ago that there was a large USENET<->Fidonet gateway in operation on the WWB...then again, memory may be failing me too. :D

Later,
Sean

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Hello, Ben.

Saturday November 29 2014 at 23:07, you wrote to Luc Mccarragher:

Like Sean mentioned, anyone can set up a feed from you for the desired echoes outside of the Backbone and still keep everyone happy, so why
don't we try that first?

Nick Andre has been doing this for 20 years now...and both Nick and his BBS are
very reliable. :)

Later,
Sean

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Greetings Janis!

01 Jan 70 00:00, Sean Dennis wrote to Janis Kracht:

Hello, Janis.

Saturday November 29 2014 at 21:34, you wrote to Luc Mccarragher:

Thanks for any information.

Nick Andre has run a successful USENET<->Fidonet gate for many many
years that doesn't involve the Fidonet backbone. Many of us use Nick
for that
reason: we don't want Fidonet turning into USENET.

What Sean said!

Have a day!

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