• Quick Question

    From Joe Schweier@1:275/400 to All on Thu Jan 19 10:01:16 2006
    Hello everybody.

    Hi there... I'm playing around with OS2 and ELE/2 and I have a quick question. I have SIO deal running but when I go to load a dos door, I'm trying to telnet in, the BBS works fine but the dos door choaks and says there is no fossil driver loaded. Is there some other command I'm missing??

    Thanx

    Joe

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/119 to Joe Schweier on Thu Jan 19 12:42:22 2006
    Hello Joe!

    Thursday January 19 2006 10:01, Joe Schweier wrote to All:

    Hi there... I'm playing around with OS2 and ELE/2 and I have a quick question. I have SIO deal running but when I go to load a dos door,
    I'm trying to telnet in, the BBS works fine but the dos door choaks
    and says there is no fossil driver loaded. Is there some other
    command I'm missing??

    In the settings for the DOS session that your door runs in, you need to add DOS_DEVICE=C:\SIO\VX00.SYS so that you load the (virtual) FOSSIL driver. This can be done in CONFIG.SYS (which would make the FOSSIL available in all DOS sessions), or with extra utilities you can start VX00.SYS in only those sessions that need it.

    Here's a quote from my batch files:

    SPAWNBBS.CMD (I use BTXE/2):

    === Cut ===
    @Echo Off
    Echo SPAWNBBS.CMD; BBS Loader Command File, Version 1.00α1
    Echo Copyright (C) 1997 by Andrew J. Leary. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
    Echo  
    Echo Creating batch file...
    Echo EXEBBS1 %2 1 %4 %5>DOBBS.BAT
    Echo Starting the BBS...
    Start "BBS Node 1" /FG /FS /WAIT /DOS=E:\RA\NODE1\NODE1.INI DOBBS.BAT
    If Not Exist K:\Flags\BBSMail.FLG Goto End
    CD \FE
    FastEch2 Scan -A
    CD \RA\Node1
    :End
    === Cut ===

    NODE1.INI:

    === Cut ===
    DOS_DEVICE=D:\SIO2K\VX00.SYS
    SIO_Allow_Access_COM1=1
    SIO_Screen_Sync_Kludge=1
    === Cut ===

    I'm using the START command built into 4OS2. I believe that most other Start utilities also have the ability to do something similar.

    Andrew

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Joe Schweier on Thu Jan 19 16:54:24 2006
    Joe,

    *** Quoting Joe Schweier from a message to All ***

    Hi there... I'm playing around with OS2 and ELE/2 and I have a quick question. I have SIO deal running but when I go to load a dos door,
    I'm trying to telnet in, the BBS works fine but the dos door choaks
    and says there is no fossil driver loaded. Is there some other
    command I'm missing??

    Do you have the - in the calling line in CONFIG.SYS?

    As in: COM1(38400,3F8,IRQ4,-)

    (that's just made up, I don't remember the exact values)

    The - is a poorly documented parameter to allow DOS doors to use the FOSSIL under SIO.

    HTH,
    Sean

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  • From Alan Hess@1:261/1000 to Andrew Leary on Fri Jan 20 17:43:22 2006
    Whilst masticating on <Jan 19 06>, Andrew Leary (1:320/119)
    wrote to Joe Schweier:

    In the settings for the DOS session that your door runs in, you
    need to add DOS_DEVICE=C:\SIO\VX00.SYS so that you load the
    (virtual) FOSSIL driver. This can be done in CONFIG.SYS (which
    would make the FOSSIL available in all DOS sessions), or with
    extra utilities you can start VX00.SYS in only those sessions
    that need it.

    Shouldn't that just be DEVICE=, rather than DOS_DEVICE=? That's how it'a always been in my config.sys. *adh*

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/119 to Alan Hess on Sun Jan 22 22:46:00 2006
    In a message to Andrew Leary <17:43 ~> Alan Hess wrote:

    Shouldn't that just be DEVICE=, rather than DOS_DEVICE=? That's how
    it'a always been in my config.sys. *adh*

    It's DEVICE= in CONFIG.SYS, DOS_DEVICE= in the individual session DOS settings. I had forgotten that; it's been a LONG time since I set that up.

    Andrew


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Sean Dennis on Mon Feb 6 22:04:54 2006
    Hi there... I'm playing around with OS2 and ELE/2 and I have a quick question. I have SIO deal running but when I go to load a dos door,
    I'm trying to telnet in, the BBS works fine but the dos door choaks
    and says there is no fossil driver loaded. Is there some other
    command I'm missing??

    Do you have the - in the calling line in CONFIG.SYS?

    As in: COM1(38400,3F8,IRQ4,-)

    (that's just made up, I don't remember the exact values)

    The - is a poorly documented parameter to allow DOS doors to use
    the FOSSIL under SIO.

    actually, the '-' tells SIO so allow the port to be shared by more than one program at a time... it can be a gotcha, too... like the time that i forgot and
    clicked on the wrong telix icon and loaded the one configured the same as the bbs and both programs were trying to use the same comport at the same time... not a very pretty picture ;)

    )\/(ark


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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/119 to Mark Lewis on Tue Feb 7 10:11:52 2006
    Quoting mark lewis to Sean Dennis <=-

    actually, the '-' tells SIO so allow the port to be shared by more
    than one program at a time... it can be a gotcha, too... like the time that i forgot and clicked on the wrong telix icon and loaded the one configured the same as the bbs and both programs were trying to use the same comport at the same time... not a very pretty picture ;)

    OUCH! I hate it when that happens. I'm still trying to get the
    Os2Shares and DosShares keywords in SIO2K to cooperate (they're the
    counterpart of the - parameter in SIO 1.x.) I had it working (mostly)
    when running EleBBS/2 with DOS doors, but when I add the mailer into the
    mix (also OS/2 native), I get dropped carriers when returning from DOS
    doors or the doors can't detect carrier when loading. I can't use the
    SIO 1.60d version, since VMODEM in that version is broken with respect
    to recent versions of TCP/IP.

    Andrew

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to mark lewis on Tue Feb 7 15:07:42 2006
    Mark,

    *** Quoting mark lewis from a message to Sean Dennis ***

    actually, the '-' tells SIO so allow the port to be shared by more
    than one program at a time... it can be a gotcha, too... like the
    time that i forgot and clicked on the wrong telix icon and loaded the
    one configured the same as the bbs and both programs were trying to
    use the same comport at the same time... not a very pretty picture ;)

    Oh, I have had that happen more than once. I've had two front-end mailers monitoring the modem at once. When the modem rang, all chaos broke loose. <G>

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/1 to Joe Schweier on Tue Feb 7 23:11:42 2006
    Joe Schweier wrote to All:

    Hi there... I'm playing around with OS2 and ELE/2 and I have a quick question. I have SIO deal running but when I go to load a dos door, I'm trying to telnet in, the BBS works fine but the dos door choaks and says there is no fossil driver loaded. Is there some other command I'm missing??

    You may want to be sure that VX00.SYS is loaded in your config file so
    that any DOS windows that open up automatically load the VX00.SYS FOSSIL driver.

    Greetings, Robert Wolfe

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20.1 to Sean Dennis on Sun Feb 12 03:31:38 2006
    *** Quoting Sean Dennis from a message to mark lewis ***

    Oh, I have had that happen more than once. I've had two front-end
    mailers monitoring the modem at once. When the modem rang, all chaos broke loose. <G>

    Later, Sean

    Sean, installed TG/2 here and am using it to post now. What mail tosser/scanner are you using by any chance? Using the shareware version of Fastecho/2 here.

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Robert Wolfe on Sat Feb 11 13:56:50 2006
    Robert,

    *** Quoting Robert Wolfe from a message to Sean Dennis ***

    Sean, installed TG/2 here and am using it to post now. What mail tosser/scanner are you using by any chance? Using the shareware
    version of Fastecho/2 here.

    I'm using Squish and BinkleyTerm. FastEcho may be registered for free now (netmail me for more details), but I could not get it to work right with BT-style outbound.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Robert Wolfe on Sat Feb 11 12:26:06 2006
    Robert Wolfe wrote to Sean Dennis:

    Sean, installed TG/2 here and am using it to post now. What mail tosser/scanner are you using by any chance? Using the shareware version of Fastecho/2 here.

    I'm just curious how fastEcho handles large messages, are you reading
    messages in the STATS echo there by chance? I know squish can't toss
    some of the bigger messages in that echo and I'm just wondering if
    FE tosses them ok.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Alan Ianson on Sat Feb 11 20:07:38 2006
    Alan,

    *** Quoting Alan Ianson from a message to Robert Wolfe ***

    messages in the STATS echo there by chance? I know squish can't toss
    some of the bigger messages in that echo and I'm just wondering if FE

    I've had Squish handle 64K messages just fine. Then again, I run the OS/2 version...

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Sean Dennis on Sat Feb 11 19:02:36 2006
    Sean Dennis wrote to Alan Ianson:

    messages in the STATS echo there by chance? I know squish can't toss some of the bigger messages in that echo and I'm just wondering if FE

    I've had Squish handle 64K messages just fine. Then again, I run the OS/2 version...

    Some messages in there now are over 400k, the os2 version of squish
    might handle that OK, I'm not to sure. Do you read the STATS echo?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Rich Wonneberger@1:2624/50 to Alan Ianson on Sat Feb 11 21:23:06 2006
    *** Quoting Alan Ianson to Robert Wolfe dated 02-11-06 ***
    I'm just curious how fastEcho handles large messages, are you reading messages in the STATS echo there by chance? I know squish can't toss

    FE chops the message if its to long. :{

    Rich
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Rich Wonneberger on Sat Feb 11 20:05:02 2006
    Rich Wonneberger wrote to Alan Ianson:

    I'm just curious how fastEcho handles large messages, are you reading messages in the STATS echo there by chance? I know squish can't toss

    FE chops the message if its to long. :{

    Not so good, I guess it doesn't get passed on to your links at all
    either?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Alan Ianson on Sun Feb 12 09:45:36 2006
    Alan,

    *** Quoting Alan Ianson from a message to Sean Dennis ***

    Some messages in there now are over 400k, the os2 version of squish
    might handle that OK, I'm not to sure. Do you read the STATS echo?

    I used to, but then again, I realized that the only stats that mattered were on
    my own board. :)

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Alan Ianson on Sun Feb 12 09:49:26 2006
    Alan,

    *** Quoting Alan Ianson from a message to Rich Wonneberger ***

    Not so good, I guess it doesn't get passed on to your links at all
    either?

    If someone's posting 400K messages, they ought to be slapped.

    Any sysop would realize that not everyone's systems can handle messages that big and put them into 64K chunks (possibly still, 16K). But to be honest, who really needs that kind of statistical data broadcast? I can see a major hub generating statistics locally, but really now, 400K? :)

    I do believe that you aren't going to see any tosser go over 64K, period. I read the docs and FE does cut the packets as does Squish. I can't speak for any other tosser, but those two do truncate the message.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Sean Dennis on Sun Feb 12 11:25:02 2006
    Sean Dennis wrote to Alan Ianson:

    If someone's posting 400K messages, they ought to be slapped.

    I dunno how big he is.. :)

    Any sysop would realize that not everyone's systems can handle messages that big and put them into 64K chunks (possibly still, 16K). But to be honest, who really needs that kind of statistical data broadcast? I can see a major hub generating statistics locally, but really now, 400K? :)

    Yep, I exported one to a file last night to see, 451Kb.. it's a bigun. :)
    It contains a list of every message area that hub carries (many nets)
    that lists how many messages were sent & recieved in those areas. I read
    the area from time to time just to see what areas are getting traffic
    and be sure I am connected.. :)

    It's a tough read for sure but lots of good info if FTN traffic is what
    your looking for.

    I do believe that you aren't going to see any tosser go over 64K, period. I read the docs and FE does cut the packets as does Squish. I can't
    speak for any other tosser, but those two do truncate the message.

    Squish skips a message if it's to large, so your links don't get the
    message at all and it's not in your own message base. FE tries to toss
    the message but when the buffer runs out.. that's the end of that.

    As far as FTSC standards go, message size is unbounded (from what I understand). Still, I believe you are right about message size. A
    large message should be split so all interested parties get it. It'll
    still be a big message, just in a few pieces.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/1 to Alan Ianson on Sun Feb 12 15:52:40 2006
    Alan Ianson wrote to Robert Wolfe:

    I'm just curious how fastEcho handles large messages, are you reading messages in the STATS echo there by chance? I know squish can't toss
    some of the bigger messages in that echo and I'm just wondering if
    FE tosses them ok.

    FE cans SOME, but not all messages.

    Greetings, Robert Wolfe

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Alan Ianson on Sun Feb 12 15:19:22 2006
    Alan,

    *** Quoting Alan Ianson from a message to Sean Dennis ***

    I dunno how big he is.. :)

    I was just figuratively speaking, of course. :) It's a little hard to slap someone from behind a console.

    Squish skips a message if it's to large, so your links don't get the message at all and it's not in your own message base. FE tries to
    toss the message but whenthe buffer runs out.. that's the end of
    that.

    The OS/2 version of Squish can handle 256K messages according to the documentation. But I'd think that large messages are a no-no with respect to other people's systems. My opinion, of course, but that's being rather disrepectful to put out a message that you know other people's systems may or may not be able to handle.

    Squish/2 does what I want and if it deletes a message that's that big, well, it
    doesn't need to be in my system anyway.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Robert Wolfe on Sun Feb 12 17:10:14 2006
    Robert Wolfe wrote to Alan Ianson:

    I'm just curious how fastEcho handles large messages, are you reading messages in the STATS echo there by chance? I know squish can't toss some of the bigger messages in that echo and I'm just wondering if
    FE tosses them ok.

    FE cans SOME, but not all messages.

    Well, at least that MBSE BBS of yours will toss them fine and pass
    them on to your links.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Sean Dennis on Sun Feb 12 17:19:07 2006
    Sean Dennis wrote to Alan Ianson:

    I was just figuratively speaking, of course. :) It's a little hard to slap someone from behind a console.

    I was just having fun.. :)

    Squish/2 does what I want and if it deletes a message that's that big, well, it doesn't need to be in my system anyway.

    Yep, there are some systems that simply can't toss that message, so
    if you want to be read it's necessary to cut it down to size somewhat.
    But to what? 256Kb? MBSE BBS can create messages like that too (new
    file announcements), but if there are a lot of files recieved on any
    day they get split at 32kb. I'm pretty sure any tosser on any OS can
    toss those.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Kevin Nunn@1:397/10 to Sean Dennis on Mon Feb 13 04:06:20 2006
    Sean Dennis wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

    I'm using Squish and BinkleyTerm. FastEcho may be registered for free
    now (netmail me for more details), but I could not get it to work
    right with BT-style outbound.

    That is a tough thing to do, I ended up getting it to work somehow,
    Forget if I had the same problem, but I did have a problem, but it all
    works now. So Fastecho will work, but there is a obstacle to overcome.
    If it comes up we could compare config files and I can probably
    remember what I ended up doing.

    Kev


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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20.1 to Sean Dennis on Sun Feb 12 15:56:49 2006
    *** Quoting Sean Dennis from a message to Alan Ianson ***

    I've had Squish handle 64K messages just fine. Then again, I run the
    OS/2 version...

    Ditto.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Sean Dennis on Wed Feb 15 05:27:03 2006
    I'm using Squish and BinkleyTerm. FastEcho may be registered for
    free now (netmail me for more details), but I could not get it to
    work right with BT-style outbound.

    please netmail me with details on both situations ;)

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Rich Wonneberger on Wed Feb 15 05:28:12 2006
    I'm just curious how fastEcho handles large messages, are you reading messages in the STATS echo there by chance? I know squish can't toss

    FE chops the message if its to long. :{

    and that highly depends on the version/flavor of FE your are running... IIRC, the OS/2 version has a 512k limit but i have to check my config settings to confirm that...

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Alan Ianson on Wed Feb 15 05:30:02 2006
    As far as FTSC standards go, message size is unbounded (from what I understand).

    absolutely... 100% correct...

    Still, I believe you are right about message size. A
    large message should be split so all interested parties get it.
    It'll still be a big message, just in a few pieces.

    and it should be the receiving system's problem to split large messages... after all, they should know their software's limits... why should i, as a mail mover, have to know the limits of all the software my downlinks may run? why should i have to degrade the performance of my system or my delivery mechanism by having to play to the slowest participant al la public schools?? hello?

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Alan Ianson on Wed Feb 15 05:33:12 2006
    Yep, there are some systems that simply can't toss that message, so
    if you want to be read it's necessary to cut it down to size
    somewhat. But to what? 256Kb? MBSE BBS can create messages like
    that too (new file announcements),

    hell. i've got software that i wrote that can create messages as large as my available drive space up to 2gig, in size... it has been actively tested by posting the largest nodelist in fidonet's history to one message in one test echo...

    but if there are a lot of files recieved on any day they get split
    at 32kb. I'm pretty sure any tosser on any OS can toss those.. :)

    yup but who really wants to be tossing 100's of small messages when tossing one
    will do, go faster, and take up less space (due to no duplication of the headers and other control information) O:)

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to mark lewis on Wed Feb 15 09:26:07 2006
    mark lewis wrote to Alan Ianson:

    but if there are a lot of files recieved on any day they get split
    at 32kb. I'm pretty sure any tosser on any OS can toss those.. :)

    yup but who really wants to be tossing 100's of small messages when tossing one will do, go faster, and take up less space (due to no duplication of the headers and other control information) O:)

    Yep, posting ten 32kb msgs instead of one 320kb message doesn't seem
    like a very good solution. Even at that I've only seen it get split
    once so I've never really had much reason to think about it. I leave
    it at that because I've had tossers crash in the past and don't wish
    that on anyone.

    I guess that third party utility you spoke of is a good option if a
    tosser can't do the deed itself, although I don't like the idea much.

    Tossers that I know of, that are still being developed (HPT, MBSE,
    SBBSECHO) and likely more that I have no experience with, do toss
    large messages so we are moving in the right direction.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to mark lewis on Wed Feb 15 15:18:32 2006
    Mark,

    *** Quoting mark lewis from a message to Sean Dennis ***

    please netmail me with details on both situations ;)

    Netmail going out with this packet (routed).

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Dale A Cook@1:365/3253 to Sean Dennis on Wed Feb 15 16:26:08 2006
    If someone's posting 400K messages, they ought to be slapped.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    They should actually be strung up by the testicles with rusty barbed wire!


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  • From Mike Luther@1:117/3001 to Mark Lewis on Wed Feb 15 20:02:12 2006
    Hey Mark!

    and that highly depends on the version/flavor of FE
    your are running... IIRC, the OS/2 version has a 512k
    limit but i have to check my config settings to
    confirm that...

    I followed the FE situation for a long time here asking for 'the OS/2 version'.
    Was told it had never been released. Also was looking for and OS/2 version of
    Allfix. Both to upgrade the 1:117/100 HUB to solid OS/2 instead of DOS.

    Can you furnish me with any of the details on any of this? Thanks!


    Sleep well; OS/2's still awake! ;)

    Mike @ 1:117/3001

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Alan Ianson on Thu Feb 16 00:54:34 2006
    but if there are a lot of files recieved on any day they get split
    at 32kb. I'm pretty sure any tosser on any OS can toss those.. :)

    yup but who really wants to be tossing 100's of small messages when tossing one will do, go faster, and take up less space (due to no duplication of the headers and other control information) O:)

    Yep, posting ten 32kb msgs instead of one 320kb message doesn't
    seem like a very good solution.

    you're darned tootin... especially considering all the additional info that needs to be added to each one... the header is at least 40 characters (for argument's sake, we'll use that figure for calculations) so that means at least
    another 400 bytes _plus_ the additional seenbys, paths, and (at least) origin lines... then you also have to add in the additional overhead for the ^aSPLIT lines and anything else that is added during the process of splitting...

    Even at that I've only seen it get split once so I've never really
    had much reason to think about it. I leave it at that because I've
    had tossers crash in the past and don't wish that on anyone.

    no doubt... in fact, i doubt that anyone who has really moved the mail hasn't had a tosser crash...

    I guess that third party utility you spoke of is a good option if a
    tosser can't do the deed itself, although I don't like the idea
    much.

    i'f my system is the last one remaining that can't handle messages larger than 32k (for instance) why should everyone else in the network have to be saddled with messages that small? the only real problem i'm aware of in this area is that this util might not be available for some platforms that may be being used
    in fidonet... however, i must also state that i'm not aware of any remaining systems running things like the COCO, TI99, TRS-80's or other antiquated machines... i'd possibly even go so far as to hazard a guess that most everyone
    is running at least a "current" or "recent" OS, too... in this day in time, that means windows 98, 2000, ME, or XP, LINUX in some flavor, OS/2, and possibly the old apple system 9 (i think it was called)... newer apple/machintosh machines are running a flavor of linux and even their chipset is currently changing to intel based chips instead of motorola stuff...

    Tossers that I know of, that are still being developed (HPT, MBSE, SBBSECHO) and likely more that I have no experience with, do toss
    large messages so we are moving in the right direction.

    yup!

    )\/(ark


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Mike Luther on Thu Feb 16 16:00:32 2006
    Mike,

    *** Quoting Mike Luther from a message to Mark Lewis ***

    I followed the FE situation for a long time here asking for 'the OS/2 version'. Was told it had never been released. Also was looking for

    I've sent you a netmail (should go out w/this packet).

    I'd crash it to you, but no LD on the phone line yet.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Rich Wonneberger@1:2624/50 to Dale A Cook on Thu Feb 16 21:46:34 2006
    *** Quoting Dale A Cook to Sean Dennis dated 02-15-06 ***
    If someone's posting 400K messages, they ought to be slapped.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    They should actually be strung up by the testicles with rusty barbed
    wire!

    Why let them off that easy??

    Rich
    I-Net turtil@frontiernet.net


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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/119 to Mark Lewis on Fri Feb 17 09:26:54 2006
    mark lewis wrote to Rich Wonneberger <=-

    and that highly depends on the version/flavor of FE your are running... IIRC, the OS/2 version has a 512k limit but i have to check my config settings to confirm that...

    You do recall correctly. I've had it set to 512k for ages. I've never seen a message long enough to be truncated by FE.

    Andrew


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Mike Luther on Fri Feb 17 14:29:26 2006
    and that highly depends on the version/flavor of FE
    your are running... IIRC, the OS/2 version has a 512k
    limit but i have to check my config settings to
    confirm that...

    I followed the FE situation for a long time here asking for 'the
    OS/2 version'. Was told it had never been released.

    that's rather funny... i don't know who told you that but they are/were incorrect...

    Also was looking for and OS/2 version of Allfix. Both to upgrade
    the 1:117/100 HUB to solid OS/2 instead of DOS.

    i'm not sure about allfix... i believe that i am running the OS/2 version but would have to go and dig about on that machine to find out... i may have just left it as the DOS version in case i ever needed to jump back to DOS...

    Can you furnish me with any of the details on any of this?
    Thanks!

    from my files list...


    ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
    │░░░▒▒▒▓▓▓ Area 129 - FASTECHO: FastEcho EchoMail Tosser ▓▓▓▒▒▒░░░│
    └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

    bupd124a.rar 16k 06-22-94 U/L: waldo kitty Binary Update - a program to patch with

    fe146.rar 670k 04-01-97 U/L: waldo kitty ------------------------------------------
    ## ---------- FastEcho v1.46 ---------- ##
    ## ------ Bugfixed Easter Update ------ ## ------------------------------------------
    Very fast FTN mail processor for Hudson-
    (aka QBBS), JAM-, Squish- and Fido/*.MSG-
    style messagebases. Internal AreaFix, dupe
    checking, full security, NetMail routing,
    full screen setup, area grouping, network-
    and multitasking-support, auto area add
    function supporting all major BBS systems,
    great msgbase tool included, carbon-copy-
    function. Archive contains DOS executables
    plus all files needed for other platforms.
    |
    --- NEW FEATURES IN v1.46: --- |
    Native OS/2 setup program, more groups, |
    more areas, enhanced AreaFix functions |
    and much more! [Shareware, $15/25] | ------------------------------------------
    Copyright (c) 1991-1997 by
    Software Technik Burchhardt, Waltrop, FRG. ------------------------------------------

    fe146p.rar 464k 04-01-97 U/L: waldo kitty ------------------------------------------
    ## ---------- FastEcho v1.46 ---------- ## ------------------------------------------
    Very fast FTN mail processor for Hudson-
    (aka QBBS), JAM-, Squish- and Fido/*.MSG-
    style messagebases. [Shareware, $15/25] ------------------------------------------
    Includes OS/2 32 bit executables only,
    requires full package (FE146.RAR) to run!
    Now also included: native OS/2 FESetup ... ------------------------------------------
    Copyright (c) 1991-1997 by
    Software Technik Burchhardt, Waltrop, FRG. ------------------------------------------

    fe146pl1.rar 51k 04-03-97 U/L: waldo kitty ------------------------------------------
    ## --------- FastEcho 1.46pl1 --------- ## ------------------------------------------
    This is a patch from the original FastEcho
    1.46 release to patch level 1. Fixes PACK
    -P ignoring NetMail messages with several
    ^aFLAGS set (Binkley-style outbound only!) ------------------------------------------
    Needs BUpdate (BUPD124A.RAR) to apply .BDF ------------------------------------------
    Copyright (c) 1991-1997 by
    Software Technik Burchhardt, Waltrop, FRG. ------------------------------------------

    fe146x.rar 640k 04-01-97 U/L: waldo kitty ------------------------------------------
    ## ---------- FastEcho v1.46 ---------- ## ------------------------------------------
    Very fast FTN mail processor for Hudson-
    (aka QBBS), JAM-, Squish- and Fido/*.MSG-
    style messagebases. [Shareware, $15/25] ------------------------------------------
    Includes DPMI executables only, requires
    full package (FE146.RAR) to run !!! Now
    also featuring 32 bit version of FESetup. ------------------------------------------
    Copyright (c) 1991-1997 by
    Software Technik Burchhardt, Waltrop, FRG. ------------------------------------------

    fecv154.zip 256k 01-04-96 U/L: waldo kitty FeConv 1.54
    -----------
    -converts your fastecho-setup (1.45a)
    to RA/IM/FD/PB/SBBS/Maximus
    -creates almost freely definable
    text-files with information from
    fastecho.cfg
    -writes several reports:
    passive areas, passive nodes,
    errors reported by fastecho,
    areas with one/two links,
    areas w/o description, etc...

    Volker Imre @ 2:246/2001 <<<<


    fecv156.zip 257k 03-01-96 U/L: waldo kitty FeConv 1.56
    -----------
    -converts your fastecho-setup (1.45a)
    to RA/IM/FD/PB/SBBS/Maximus
    -creates almost freely definable
    text-files with information from
    fastecho.cfg
    -writes several reports:
    passive areas, passive nodes,
    errors reported by fastecho,
    areas with one/two links,
    areas w/o description, etc...
    -works with FD/IM/McMail/T-Mail/
    Binkley/....
    -New: RA 2.50 Support

    Volker Imre @ 2:246/2001 <<<<


    fecv_upd.rar 167k 07-15-99 U/L: file distribution FeConv

    .EXE-Update only!

    -added support for FE-Groups 1-6
    fek155e.rar 97k 01-05-98 U/L: file distribution FeKill V1.55 with English docfile
    os/2 & dos version
    Maintenance tool for FastEcho 1.46
    -Deletes and unlinks "dead" echos
    -Notifies downlinks of "dead" echos
    -Announces new areas
    and many more features, see
    WHATSNEW for changes since 1.48
    fekil155.rar 98k 01-04-98 U/L: file distribution FeKill V1.55 with German docfile
    os/2 & dos version
    Maintenance tool for FastEcho 1.46
    -Deletes and unlinks "dead" echos
    -Notifies downlinks of "dead" echos
    -Announces new areas
    and many more features, see
    WHATSNEW for changes since 1.48
    feunl150.rar 18k 10-01-96 U/L: waldo kitty
    Feunlink 1.50
    -little tool to unlink and delete
    echoares by command-line and
    writes mails to "areafix" of all
    links
    -supports FIDOKILL.NA as input
    -supports FE's busy-semaphore
    -the file "feunlink.anc" is ready
    to get posted via FEUTIL POST
    -needs Fastecho 1.45(a)
    -"netmailware"

    =====================================================================

    looks to me like the OS/2 version was released in 1997 with a quick patch for BSO problems two days later...

    )\/(ark


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Sean Dennis on Fri Feb 17 15:40:36 2006
    please netmail me with details on both situations ;)

    Netmail going out with this packet (routed).

    it did arrive... thanks for the info... unfortunately, i've never really worked
    with BSOs and can't really help in that area... all my stuff is either fileboxes or frontdoor type dynamic routed stuff...

    )\/(ark


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  • From Rich Wonneberger@1:2624/50 to Mark Lewis on Sun Feb 19 19:51:41 2006
    *** Quoting Mark Lewis to Mike Luther dated 02-17-06 ***
    from my files list...

    Mark,

    Thanks for having the files available
    I'm running 1.46.

    Rich
    I-Net turtil@frontiernet.net


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Rich Wonneberger on Mon Feb 20 15:21:40 2006
    *** Quoting Mark Lewis to Mike Luther dated 02-17-06 ***

    from my files list...

    Thanks for having the files available
    I'm running 1.46.

    enjoy them in good health ;)

    )\/(ark


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