Hello All.

i need some tips to debug a strange freezing issue with my os2 install.

i have os2 warp server v4.52 cp with some fixpacks, but the problem is
without fixpacks. i have moved my bbs from a single cpu board to a dual
p166. i've fully reinstalled the OS, but on the new board its freezes from
time to time. i have tested the RAM with memtest86. i have changed most of
the hardware, for which i had spares, but the problem presits the: the
system hangs. it is totally random, the uptime can be from 1 hour
to 7 days. do you have any tools which logs the I/O or CPU and processes?
how do you debug an os2? :)

thanks,
Daniel

--- GoldED/2 3.0.1
* Origin: Roon's BBS - Budapest, HUNGARY (2:371/52)

Hello Daniel!

10 May 21 19:12, you wrote to all:

i have os2 warp server v4.52 cp with some fixpacks, but the problem is without fixpacks. i have moved my bbs from a single cpu board to a
dual p166. i've fully reinstalled the OS, but on the new board its
freezes from time to time. i have tested the RAM with memtest86. i
have changed most of the hardware, for which i had spares, but the
problem presits the: the system hangs. it is totally random, the
uptime can be from 1 hour to 7 days. do you have any tools which logs
the I/O or CPU and processes? how do you debug an os2? :)

I had issues running eCS 1.2MR with the SMP pack on a Dual Xeon system; I ended up having to drop back to the uni-processor kernel to get it to be stable. I'm not positive that it was OS/2's fault, as that system died shortly after that change was made. I intended to attempt getting that machine going again, but ended up having to scavenge the power supply from it to fix another machine.

At some point I will replace the power supply and see if I can get it to run again, but it's really low on the priority list at the moment. I am testing ArcaOS in a VM, and will probably replace eCS 2.2 beta on my OS/2 BBS machine shortly.

Andrew

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Hello Roon.

10 May 21 19:12, I wrote to All:

i need some tips to debug a strange freezing issue with my os2
install.

i have os2 warp server v4.52 cp with some fixpacks, but the problem is without fixpacks. i have moved my bbs from a single cpu board to a
dual p166. i've fully reinstalled the OS, but on the new board its
freezes from time to time. i have tested the RAM with memtest86. i
have changed most of the hardware, for which i had spares, but the
problem presits the: the system hangs. it is totally random, the
uptime can be from 1 hour to 7 days. do you have any tools which logs
the I/O or CPU and processes? how do you debug an os2? :)

ok so if anyone is interested, after several reinstalls, different hw and
sw components i found the problem, and it was.....tadaaam:::

BINKD!

this version randomly freezes OS/2 Warp 4.52 server:

"Binkd 1.1a-112 (Jan 31 2021 21:06:45/OS2)
Compilation flags: gcc (klibc), zlib, bzlib2, https, ntlm, amiga_4d_outbound, bw lim. "

so i've reverted to binkd/0.9.2 and as you can see my tagline, now it is freeeeeakin' awesome! :)

regards,
--
Daniel

... 11:56pm up 9 days, 11:10:37, load: 69 processes, 275 threads.
--- GoldED+/EMX 1.1.4.7
* Origin: Roon's BBS - Budapest, HUNGARY (2:371/52)

Hello Daniel,

Friday July 02 2021 22:01, you wrote to you:

so i've reverted to binkd/0.9.2 and as you can see my tagline, now it
is freeeeeakin' awesome! :)

That's definitely an issue. I have run SIO 1.60d for years without issues but I know plenty of peoplw who can't run that version on their hardware without having odd problems.

-- Sean

... WinErr 00D: Window closed - Do not look outside
--- GoldED/2 3.0.1
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Hello Sean.

02 Jul 21 19:59, you wrote to me:

Hello Daniel,

Friday July 02 2021 22:01, you wrote to you:

so i've reverted to binkd/0.9.2 and as you can see my tagline,
now it is freeeeeakin' awesome! :)

That's definitely an issue. I have run SIO 1.60d for years without
issues but I know plenty of peoplw who can't run that version on their hardware without having odd problems.

i am not sure where the problem is, because i've changed every hardware component, but switching back to old binkd solved the instability issues.

i am using sio 2.03 registered


Daniel

... 9:58am up 9 days, 21:12:30, load: 67 processes, 273 threads.
--- GoldED+/EMX 1.1.4.7
* Origin: Roon's BBS - Budapest, HUNGARY (2:371/52)

so i've reverted to binkd/0.9.2 and as you can see my tagline,
now it is freeeeeakin' awesome! :)

That's definitely an issue. I have run SIO 1.60d for years without
issues but I know plenty of peoplw who can't run that version on their
hardware without having odd problems.

i am not sure where the problem is, because i've changed every hardware component, but switching back to old binkd solved the instability issues.

I haven't looked recently but there were two binkd*.exe files in the archive at one time. They looked the same and they may have had the same length but they were different, they had different dependecies.

Tommi Koivula has recent builds that he does himself at 2:221/360. I think they are available there with the magic name binkd. If you haven't already you could give those a try.

Not that 0.9.2 is bad in any way.. :)
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i am not sure where the problem is, because i've changed every hardware component, but switching back to old binkd solved the instability issues.

Those binkd files are available at 2:221/360 as binkd2.rar and binkd2e.rar. The contents of those files look the same but I don't think they are.

They both depend on libc066 also available there as libc066.zip.

Hope that helps.. :)
--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
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Hi Daniel,

i am using sio 2.03 registered

SIO2K may be causing issues. I have never used it myself but I know of others who have had to switch back to SIO 1.60d. Also, why such a dramatic jump in versions with BinkD? Andrew Leary, who also runs an ArcaOS-based BBS, had issues with -112 but dropped to -111 and everything seems to work okay.

Later,
Sean
--- Maximus/2 3.01
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Hello Sean.

03 Jul 21 12:54, you wrote to me:

Hi Daniel,

i am using sio 2.03 registered

SIO2K may be causing issues. I have never used it myself but I know
of others who have had to switch back to SIO 1.60d. Also, why such a dramatic jump in versions with BinkD? Andrew Leary, who also runs an ArcaOS-based BBS, had issues with -112 but dropped to -111 and
everything seems to work okay.

that was the previous version i've used, so the exe was in the same directory. but until september i am not near Budapest, maybe just once a week, so i can't restart the bbs if it freezes. so in autumn i will have more time to test
the different versions. until... i just enjoy it works :)

--
Daniel

... 10:08pm up 10 days, 9:23:06, load: 67 processes, 273 threads.
--- GoldED+/EMX 1.1.4.7
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Hello Daniel,

Saturday July 03 2021 20:19, you wrote to me:

that was the previous version i've used, so the exe was in the same directory. but until september i am not near Budapest, maybe just once
a week, so i can't restart the bbs if it freezes. so in autumn i will
have more time to test the different versions. until... i just enjoy
it works :)

A bit off-topic but I set up OpenVPN on a Raspberry Pi 3B so I can VNC into my BBS securely. I don't have that set up right now but looking at doing it again for secure remote access.

-- Sean

... You cannot kill time without injuring eternity.
--- GoldED/2 3.0.1
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02 Jul 21 22:01, Daniel Path wrote to Daniel Path:

ok so if anyone is interested, after several reinstalls, different hw
and sw components i found the problem, and it was.....tadaaam:::

BINKD!

this version randomly freezes OS/2 Warp 4.52 server:

"Binkd 1.1a-112 (Jan 31 2021 21:06:45/OS2)
Compilation flags: gcc (klibc), zlib, bzlib2, https, ntlm, amiga_4d_outbound, bw lim. "

That's not my compilation, the last "release" of mine is

=== Cut ===
Binkd 1.1a-112 (Jan 20 2021 01:00:09/OS2)
Compilation flags: gcc (klibc), zlib, bzlib2, https, ntlm, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim.
Facilities: fts5004 rfc2553emu
=== Cut ===

so i've reverted to binkd/0.9.2 and as you can see my tagline, now it
is freeeeeakin' awesome! :)

Nice to see the ancient one works. :) However, I think the build version is not relevant, it is how and with what compiler it has been compiled. Also different libc*.dll versions may cause a mess. I stopped compiling other versions than the klibc version that runs fine in my WSEB 4.52 CP2 system. But no warranty. ;)

Feel free to freq magic BINKD2 any time from here and you'll get the nightly version. :)

'Tommi
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TOMMI KOIVULA wrote to DANIEL PATH <=-

relevant, it is how and with what compiler it has been compiled. Also different libc*.dll versions may cause a mess. I stopped compiling

It could also be the driver/hardware causing issues as well. I used to
run my BBS under Arca on a dell desktop, everything sorta fine, BBS
traffic was fine and I had no issues but sometimes FTP or VNC would
just crash it hard, freeze up and require hard reboot.

That machine finally had some other (HD) issues and I replaced it with
a slightly more compatible Lenovo desktop, Since then I have not see
FTP or VNC freeze or crash once. So network driver/hardware could be
the issue as well.

Just from experience.

Kev

--- Telegard/2/QWK v3.09.g2-sp4/mL
* Origin: Razor's Domain/2 BBS (1:19/50.1)

Hello, Tommi!

Replying to a message of Tommi Koivula to Daniel Path:

Feel free to freq magic BINKD2 any time from here and you'll get the nightly version. :)

I am currently working on my BBS that is not happy with my old nodelist setup (it will not send out FREQs or crash netmail to systems who are not in my node manager). I am getting ready to retire Internet Rex after 23 years of use and am going to go to BinkD. Could you email me at sysop@outpostbbs.net and we could work out an arrangement to get your build of BinkD?

Also, what do you use for SRIF processing with BinkD?

Later,
Sean
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Hello, Kevin!

Replying to a message of Kevin Nunn to Tommi Koivula:

That machine finally had some other (HD) issues and I replaced it with
a slightly more compatible Lenovo desktop, Since then I have not see
FTP or VNC freeze or crash once. So network driver/hardware could be
the issue as well.

I have seen that over the years with SIO. For example, I have never had an issue with SIO 1.60d running on any hardware I've used but I know Andrew (Leary) has never been able to get SIO 1.60d to work on any of his systems. It's really odd but you know how picky OS/2 is.

I am wanting to retire Internet Rex for a while since everyone feeds to/from me using BinkD. I know Andrew had to drop from the latest BinkD (-112) back to -111 due to BinkD causing issues but if Tommi has a good working version on his WSeB install, I know it will work on my ArcaOS system.

Side note: if anyone wants to use FTP for mail with me, there's several programs for OS/2 and a BSO that can handle that for me without issue or I could just write a script to do it.

No one has asked for an email feed in a decade (or so) but if I need it, there's always TransX.

Later,
Sean
--- FleetStreet 1.27.1
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SEAN DENNIS wrote to KEVIN NUNN <=-

I have seen that over the years with SIO. For example, I have never
had an issue with SIO 1.60d running on any hardware I've used but I
know Andrew (Leary) has never been able to get SIO 1.60d to work on any
of his systems. It's really odd but you know how picky OS/2 is.

Well, my issue was with FTP and VNC, so probably nothing to do with
SIO, at least I would think not :).

I am wanting to retire Internet Rex for a while since everyone feeds to/from me
using BinkD. I know Andrew had to drop from the latest BinkD (-112)
back to -111 due to BinkD causing issues but if Tommi has a good
working version on his
WSeB install, I know it will work on my ArcaOS system.

Let me know what you end up running, as I plan to make that move
myself in the coming months

Kev
--- Telegard/2/QWK v3.09.g2-sp4/mL
* Origin: Razor's Domain/2 BBS (1:19/50.1)

Hello Kevin,

Sunday July 11 2021 15:45, you wrote to me:

Let me know what you end up running, as I plan to make that move
myself in the coming months

Definitely going to use BinkD. Going to try to help the current developer of ALLFIX build OS/2 native versions again.

-- Sean

... The first duty of love is to LISTEN. - Paul Tillich
--- GoldED/2 3.0.1
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Wednesday July 07 2021 18:10, Sean Dennis wrote to Tommi Koivula:

Feel free to freq magic BINKD2 any time from here and you'll get the
nightly version. :)

I am currently working on my BBS that is not happy with my old nodelist setup
(it will not send out FREQs or crash netmail to systems who are not in my node
manager). I am getting ready to retire Internet Rex after 23 years of use and
am going to go to BinkD. Could you email me at sysop@outpostbbs.net and we
could work out an arrangement to get your build of BinkD?

My build is available as freq magic BINKD2 here. It works in *my* system very well. No warranty. :)

Also, what do you use for SRIF processing with BinkD?

And if you do the freq, you will see that ALLFIX is used here as SRIF.

== binkd.conf ==
exec !"4os2.exe /c allfix.exe rp -srif *S" *.req
== binkd.conf ==

'Tommi

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Hallo Tommi!

12.07.2021 17:47, Tommi Koivula schrieb an Sean Dennis:

Also, what do you use for SRIF processing with BinkD?

And if you do the freq, you will see that ALLFIX is used here as SRIF.

Allfix is tooo much and too big for a simple request job.
;-)

== binkd.conf ==
exec !"4os2.exe /c allfix.exe rp -srif *S" *.req
== binkd.conf ==

=##= Anfang "binkd.cfg" =##=
exec "!E:\\dbahn\\mailer\\mxbuck\\mxbinkd2.cmd *S" *.req
=##= Ende "binkd.cfg" =##=


SFS 3.1 hat auf der Suche nach "MXBUCK" folgendes gefunden: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mxbk112l.zip 188632 20-05-01 MxBuck/2 V1.12l ist ein 32-Bit
FileRequestprozessor fuer OS/2-Mailer
(BinkXE, BinkD, Xenia, Cantaloup und
T-Mail) und Maximus V2.x und V3.x.
Eigenes Indexsystem, daher auch nutzbar
fuer andere BBS-Systeme mit Files.bbs.
(Neu: Verarbeitet auch mehrzeilige
Files.bbs, Grafikfilter. Tic- und
FilesBBS-Erstellung usw. ueber
UserSetup steuerbar, UserEditor)
* NEU: BinkD-Unterstuetzung *
-> kostenlose Registrierung <-
MxBinkd2.RAR 5499 15-12-01 Mxbinkd2 Ver.1.00 loesst das Problem des
Task bei BinkD0.9.4 und 0.9.5
- Freie Wahl der Verzeichnisse
- Startet MxBuck in einem freien Task
- OS/2 Rexx
By Torsten Bamberg 2:240/5832@FidoNet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anzahl gefundener Files: 2

DatenBahn BBS
2:240/5832, V34+, 49-40-98670307
2:240/5833, X75, 49-40-98670308
2:240/5834, Binkp, datenbahn.dd-dns.net
Download auch via telnet://datenbahn.dd-dns.de
24h/365t, Frequest auf allen Lines moeglich.

'Tommi

Bye/2 Torsten

... MAILBOX01: up 17d 0h 14m load: 40 proc, 189 threads (tbup1.1)
--- GoldED+ 1.1.5-19
* Origin: DatenBahn BBS Hamburg (2:240/5832)

Hello Torsten,

Allfix is tooo much and too big for a simple request job.
;-)

I use mfreq here on my linux box to handle requests. I haven't tried the OS/2 version but I have seen an OS/2 version 3.17 around and about. mfreq supports SmartMagic that works nicely to send a requester the latest file from a file area. That's handy in areas like fidonews or nodelist when filenames change frequently.

Ttyl :-),
Al
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
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Hello Torsten,

Saturday July 17 2021 01:04, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

Allfix is tooo much and too big for a simple request job.

Allfix does have some other good features also but I can see what you mean. The only SRIF programs I've seen are in German which doesn't help me much. <G>

Didn't you used to have the Ham/2 website?

-- Sean KS4TD

... Gold's Law: if the shoe fits, it's ugly.
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Hello Alan,

Friday July 16 2021 16:49, you wrote to Torsten Bamberg:

I use mfreq here on my linux box to handle requests. I haven't tried
the OS/2 version but I have seen an OS/2 version 3.17 around and
about. mfreq supports SmartMagic that works nicely to send a requester
the latest file from a file area. That's handy in areas like fidonews
or nodelist when filenames change frequently.

You wouldn't happen to have a copy of that mfreq handy would you?

Also, did you receive the netmail I sent you to your point address?

-- Sean

... Money has become the grand test of virtue. - George Orwell
--- GoldED/2 3.0.1
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You wouldn't happen to have a copy of that mfreq handy would you?

Yes, it should be in your inbound, MFREQ317.ZIP.

Also, did you receive the netmail I sent you to your point address?

Yes, I have a bit of work to do here but I'm hoping to get that done in the next 10 days or so. I'll reply to your netmail shortly.
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Alan Ianson wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

Yes, it should be in your inbound, MFREQ317.ZIP.

I got it, thank you very much!

Yes, I have a bit of work to do here but I'm hoping to get
that done in the next 10 days or so. I'll reply to your
netmail shortly.

No rush. I just wanted to make sure my netmail was getting out. I
have been having issues with Internet Rex not reading my nodelist
correctly to set out mail for non-listed nodes though your point wasn't
an issue.

Thanks again for MFREQ. I'll take a look at it soon.

-- Sean

... It is more comfortable to cry in a Corvette than on a bicycle.
___ MultiMail/Win v0.52
--- Maximus/2 3.01
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Hi Torsten.

17 Jul 21 01:04:10, you wrote to me:

Also, what do you use for SRIF processing with BinkD?

And if you do the freq, you will see that ALLFIX is used here as SRIF.

Allfix is tooo much and too big for a simple request job.
;-)

Yes, but according to the author Harald Harms, it is "Simply the best". ;-)

'Tommi

---
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Hello Tommi,

Monday July 19 2021 19:51, you wrote to Torsten Bamberg:

Yes, but according to the author Harald Harms, it is "Simply the
best". ;-)

Harald passed away some years ago. I have tried to contact Allfix's current maintainer via netmail and in the ALLFIX_HELP echo but no answer. That makes me a bit suspect.

-- Sean

... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave a message.
--- GoldED/2 3.0.1
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Hi Sean.

19 Jul 21 18:03:44, you wrote to me:

Yes, but according to the author Harald Harms, it is "Simply the
best". ;-)

Harald passed away some years ago.

Oh, bad news. I didn't know that. :(

I have tried to contact Allfix's current maintainer via netmail and in
the ALLFIX_HELP echo but no answer. That makes me a bit suspect.

IMHO, Allfix died when Harald stopped the development.

I tried to upgrade my Allfix to newer versions few times, but no success. Maybe a setup from scratch might work, but I see no reason to do that. The last version from Harald works quite fine. (ALLFIX/2 for OS/2 Warp, v6.00.018 09-Jul-00 14:20)

'Tommi

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Hello Tommi,

Tuesday July 20 2021 18:47, you wrote to me:

I tried to upgrade my Allfix to newer versions few times, but no
success. Maybe a setup from scratch might work, but I see no reason to
do that. The last version from Harald works quite fine. (ALLFIX/2 for
OS/2 Warp, v6.00.018 09-Jul-00 14:20)

I'll look and see if I can find that version of ALLFIX. I am using NEF and it works great but having the SRIF and filefind functions would be handy. I'm cleaning up 20 years worth of mess on the BBS and finding stuff I didn't realize I still had anymore. I have 18GB worth of files and am adding more when I have time.

-- Sean

... Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.
--- GoldED/2 3.0.1
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On 20.7.2021 17:29, Sean Dennis wrote:

Tuesday July 20 2021 18:47, you wrote to me:

I tried to upgrade my Allfix to newer versions few times, but no success. Maybe a setup from scratch might work, but I see no reason to do that. The last version from Harald works quite fine. (ALLFIX/2 for OS/2 Warp, v6.00.018 09-Jul-00 14:20)

I'll look and see if I can find that version of ALLFIX.

Seems to be available for download there -> http://www.allfix.com

I am using NEF and it works great but having the SRIF and filefind
functions would be handy. I'm cleaning up 20 years worth of mess on
the BBS and finding stuff I didn't realize I still had anymore.

It is always nice to find something old in your hard disk. My OS/2 has some old DOS tools from '80's in C:\ :D

'Tommi
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Hello Tommi,

Wednesday July 21 2021 21:00, you wrote to me:

Seems to be available for download there -> http://www.allfix.com

Thanks!

It is always nice to find something old in your hard disk. My OS/2 has some old DOS tools from '80's in C:\ :D

I found several half-finished BBS doors hiding. I am working on porting my development environment so I will be able to provide DOS, OS/2, Win32 and Win64, Linux, and WINserver-native doors from the same code. I have Windows 7, Windows 10, FreeDOS, Devuan Linuxs, OS/2 Warp 4.52 and ArcaOS 5.0.6 virtual machines I built just for testing purposes. Life is good. <G>

I just found an ATI Radeon X600 dual-head PCI video card in my "junk pile" I am sticking in my up-and-coming BBS server (a HPE ProLiant ML110 G6) so I can do development much easier with dual monitors.

Side question: what are you using for your NNTP gate on your BBS?

-- Sean

... Stop the violins!
--- GoldED/2 3.0.1
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Hello Sean.

21 Jul 21 16:07, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

Hello Tommi,

Wednesday July 21 2021 21:00, you wrote to me:

Seems to be available for download there -> http://www.allfix.com

Thanks!

It is always nice to find something old in your hard disk. My
OS/2 has some old DOS tools from '80's in C:\ :D

I found several half-finished BBS doors hiding. I am working on
porting my development environment so I will be able to provide DOS,
OS/2, Win32 and Win64, Linux, and WINserver-native doors from the same code. I have Windows 7, Windows 10, FreeDOS, Devuan Linuxs, OS/2 Warp 4.52 and ArcaOS 5.0.6 virtual machines I built just for testing
purposes. Life is good. <G>

*wink* *wink* !!! :)


greets,
--
Daniel

... 6:12pm up 29 days, 5:26:39, load: 75 processes, 281 threads.
--- GoldED+/EMX 1.1.4.7
* Origin: Roon's BBS - Budapest, HUNGARY (2:371/52)

On 21.7.2021 17:07, Sean Dennis wrote:

I found several half-finished BBS doors hiding. I am working on
porting my development environment so I will be able to provide DOS,
OS/2, Win32 and Win64, Linux, and WINserver-native doors from the
same code. I have Windows 7, Windows 10, FreeDOS, Devuan Linuxs,
OS/2 Warp 4.52 and ArcaOS 5.0.6 virtual machines I built just for
testing purposes. Life is good. <G>

:)

Side question: what are you using for your NNTP gate on your BBS?

I run JamNNTPd to access JAM msg bases via NNTP.
I also run Soupgate to gate usenet to fido.

'Tommi
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