• pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?

    From Alisha Stutz@2:301/113 to g00r00 on Thu Jan 5 09:26:12 2023
    Hi g00r00,

    Is from your side already decided if the current PreAlpha version A48 will get a 64 bit Raspberry Pi version for the upcoming stable version? Or is this only planned for A49 or later?

    Best regards
    Alisha

    ... It said "insert disk #3", but only two will fit...

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: swissIRC BBS (2:301/113)
  • From g00r00@1:129/215 to Alisha Stutz on Thu Jan 5 11:02:38 2023
    Hi g00r00,

    Is from your side already decided if the current PreAlpha version A48
    will get a 64 bit Raspberry Pi version for the upcoming stable version?
    Or is this only planned for A49 or later?

    I think I'll release A48 in a week or two and then I'll release A49 once I get the Pi 64-bit version going. Its possible A48 could still include one but probably unlikely.

    The problem I face with a 64-bit ARM version (and the new Apple hardware) is that I don't have hardware to develop on.

    I have considered a setup something like this for Pi development (as an alternative to the Pi 4, which prices have tripled for thanks to scalpers):

    https://www.amazon.com/Orange-Pi-Six-Core-Bluetooth-Keyboard/dp/B0BN1V51HK

    Full transparency: My budget is $95 which is about 2 years of donations (mostly from one person who doesn't donate anymore) so this is a little bit of an investment. I am trying not to spend my own money on hardware that is only used for Mystic at this point in my life lol.

    I am also looking at emulation options which is what I tried once before with pretty poor results. And I might have a Pi 3 to use which I think can run 64-bit Raspberry Pi OS?

    ... This virus requires Microsoft Windows 3.x

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From Mike Fenton@1:229/310 to g00r00 on Thu Jan 5 12:32:52 2023
    I think I'll release A48 in a week or two and then I'll release A49 once
    I get the Pi 64-bit version going. Its possible A48 could still include one but probably unlikely.

    The problem I face with a 64-bit ARM version (and the new Apple
    hardware) is that I don't have hardware to develop on.

    I have considered a setup something like this for Pi development (as an alternative to the Pi 4, which prices have tripled for thanks to scalpers):

    Sounds to me, we should all donate as sysops. Even if it's $10 and we all do it for your time.

    ... "I am" is the shortest sentence in English. Is 'I do' the longest?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Clutch BBS * telnet://bbs.clutchbbs.com (1:229/310)
  • From Alisha Stutz@2:301/113 to g00r00 on Thu Jan 5 19:34:09 2023
    Hi g00r00,


    Sounds to me, we should all donate as sysops. Even if it's $10 and we
    all do it for your time.


    Where we can donate like paypal or somthing?

    Is there as well a change to get with A49 Multi Core and Multi Thread Support for Mystic BBS? Right now my Problem is that mutil with the maint.ini runs more then 4h every Day.

    PurgeMessageBases = true
    PackMessageBases = true
    MergeNodeLists = true
    PackFileBases = true
    LinkMessages = true
    FileSort = true
    PurgeUserBase = true
    PackUserBase = true

    In this time there is no import of messages/netmails and as well
    no export of messages/netmails to peers and points.

    Would be nice when mutil can run in Multi Core and Multi Thread mode to speed up flows.

    Best regards

    Alisha

    ... Computers all wait at the same speed!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: swissIRC BBS (2:301/113)
  • From g00r00@1:129/215 to Alisha Stutz on Thu Jan 5 14:20:13 2023
    Where we can donate like paypal or somthing?

    There is a Paypal donate button at the bottom of the home page on mysticbbs.com if you are interested.

    Is there as well a change to get with A49 Multi Core and Multi Thread Support for Mystic BBS? Right now my Problem is that mutil with the maint.ini runs more then 4h every Day.

    Most tasks should be completing in a fraction of one second, not 4 hours. What process and disk are you using? If for example you're using an SD card and regenereating all your databases then you are probably hardware bottlenecked by the read speed of the disk. In that case nothing I can do will improve that.

    PurgeMessageBases = true
    PackMessageBases = true
    MergeNodeLists = true
    PackFileBases = true
    LinkMessages = true
    FileSort = true
    PurgeUserBase = true
    PackUserBase = true

    The first thing I see is that the packing functions aren't something you run all day every day, or even once daily. They are things that should be ran manually once every so often - maybe once a month. But even so, those things should take seconds to complete if you're not disk bottlenecked.

    Purging can be run more often but its still not really something you'd want to run throughout the day.

    Here's the output of my BBS executing on a 5 year old laptop that has an SSD drive on it with a message base that hasn't been purged or packed for probably 6+ months (so you'll see lots of work to be done). The entire thing even when doing a monthly maint execution takes seconds. Your every day tasks should be completing in fractions of a second.

    ----------------- MUTIL v1.12 A48 2023/01/04 Thu, Jan 05 2023 (loglevel 3)
    + Jan 05 14:04:01 Startup using mutil.ini
    - Jan 05 14:04:01 EXEC EchoNodeTracker
    - Jan 05 14:04:01 EXEC MassUpload
    - Jan 05 14:04:01 EXEC AutoHatch
    - Jan 05 14:04:01 EXEC PurgeMessageBases
    - Jan 05 14:04:01 EXEC PackMessageBases
    - Jan 05 14:04:01 EXEC MergeNodeLists
    - Jan 05 14:04:01 EXEC Export_Golded
    + Jan 05 14:04:01 Process: Echo Node Tracker
    + Jan 05 14:04:02 Results: 0 Reset, 0 Disabled, 0 Hold in 0.02s
    + Jan 05 14:04:02 Process: Mass Upload Files
    + Jan 05 14:04:02 Results: Uploaded 0 file(s) in 0.00s
    + Jan 05 14:04:02 Process: Auto Hatch
    + Jan 05 14:04:02 Results: Hatched 0 file(s) in 0.00s
    + Jan 05 14:04:02 Process: Purging Message Bases
    + Jan 05 14:04:04 Results: Purged 47619 messages in 2.58s
    + Jan 05 14:04:04 Process: Packing Message Bases
    + Jan 05 14:04:10 Results: Removed 47623 msgs in 62 bases in 5.45s
    + Jan 05 14:04:10 Process: Merging Nodelists
    + Jan 05 14:04:10 Results: Merged 2 of 2 nodelist(s) in 0.00s
    + Jan 05 14:04:10 Process: Export Golded Areas
    + Jan 05 14:04:10 Results: Exported 61 records in 0.00s
    + Jan 05 14:04:10 Shutdown Normal (0)

    ... I have a really good memory, except it's short.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From Mike Fenton@1:229/310 to g00r00 on Thu Jan 5 19:21:51 2023
    There is a Paypal donate button at the bottom of the home page on mysticbbs.com if you are interested.

    Donation sent...

    ... A SQL query walks into a bar and sees two tables. Asks: 'Can I join you?'

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Clutch BBS * telnet://bbs.clutchbbs.com (1:229/310)
  • From g00r00@1:129/215 to Mike Fenton on Thu Jan 5 20:56:09 2023
    There is a Paypal donate button at the bottom of the home page on mysticbbs.com if you are interested.

    Donation sent...

    Thanks, much appreciated. I'll be using it towards getting ARM 64-bit going!

    ... No one knows what's next, but everybody does it.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From Mike Fenton@1:229/310 to g00r00 on Thu Jan 5 21:26:42 2023

    Thanks, much appreciated. I'll be using it towards getting ARM 64-bit

    Sounds good, The effort and time for your development deserves a bit of cash.

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    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Clutch BBS * telnet://bbs.clutchbbs.com (1:229/310)
  • From Alisha Stutz@2:301/113 to g00r00 on Fri Jan 6 19:14:38 2023
    Hi g00r00


    There is a Paypal donate button at the bottom of the home page on mysticbbs.com if you are interested.


    Donation sent as well...

    Best regards

    Alisha

    ... It said "insert disk #3", but only two will fit...

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: swissIRC BBS (2:301/113)
  • From Björn Wiberg@2:201/137 to g00r00 on Fri Jan 6 19:56:53 2023
    Hello g00r00!

    On 06 Jan 2023, Alisha Stutz said the following...

    There is a Paypal donate button at the bottom of the home page on mysticbbs.com if you are interested.

    Donation sent as well...

    I have sent a small donation as well. Thanks for all your work on Mystic!

    Best regards
    Björn

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)
  • From g00r00@1:129/215 to Alisha Stutz on Fri Jan 6 14:02:43 2023
    There is a Paypal donate button at the bottom of the home page on mysticbbs.com if you are interested.


    Donation sent as well...

    Thank you very much! I'll do my best to get you that 64-bit ARM version soon!

    ... If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From g00r00@1:129/215 to Alisha Stutz on Sun Jan 8 00:10:49 2023
    Hi g00r00,

    Is from your side already decided if the current PreAlpha version A48
    will get a 64 bit Raspberry Pi version for the upcoming stable version?
    Or is this only planned for A49 or later?

    Alisha,

    There is now a 64-bit version for ARM (Pi) available in the downloads prealpha directory on mysticbbs.com! :)

    I've just updated all versions of Mystic with the latest code there.

    ... Tech support is just a busy signal away

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From Alisha Stutz@2:301/1 to g00r00 on Sun Jan 8 07:32:34 2023

    Hello g00r00!

    Replying to a msg dated 08 Jan 23 00:10, from you to me.

    yes i see it the new P64 Version, i will start tomorrow with the Test.

    But i see that TELNET (mys112a48_l64.rar 2023-01-07 23:09 1.0M ) is actual not working in the latest A48 Version from today/this night.

    It close the connection imidiatly with "Connection closed by foreign host." Probably somthing is broken, by the Update vom the previus A48 Version to now.

    Best regards

    Alisha


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    * Origin: ----> Alisha Stutz -> bufferzone.abad1dea.to (2:301/1)
  • From Al DeRosa@1:267/157 to Alisha Stutz on Sun Jan 8 07:28:09 2023
    On 08 Jan 2023, Alisha Stutz said the following...

    But i see that TELNET (mys112a48_l64.rar 2023-01-07 23:09 1.0M ) is actual not working in the latest A48 Version from today/this night.

    It close the connection imidiatly with "Connection closed by foreign host." Probably somthing is broken, by the Update vom the previus A48 Version to now.

    Someone over on fsxNet is also having this issue..

    ... Do vegetarians eat animal crackers?

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    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (1:267/157)
  • From g00r00@1:129/215 to Alisha Stutz on Sun Jan 8 11:21:58 2023
    It close the connection imidiatly with "Connection closed by foreign host." Probably somthing is broken, by the Update vom the previus A48 Version to now.

    Ok I have fixed that for all of the other versions in the latest build. I will upload the Pi 64-bit build in about 30 minutes which will have the fix for that too.

    Thanks for letting me know.

    ... Confucius say: "Its stuffy inside fortune cookie"

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From g00r00@1:129/215 to Al DeRosa on Sun Jan 8 11:35:14 2023
    It close the connection imidiatly with "Connection closed by foreign

    Someone over on fsxNet is also having this issue..

    All versions have been updated with the fix for this.

    ... (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From Al DeRosa@1:267/157 to g00r00 on Sun Jan 8 14:55:11 2023
    On 08 Jan 2023, g00r00 said the following...


    All versions have been updated with the fix for this.


    `That is why you are the man!!

    ... That's not a bug, it's an undocumented feature

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (1:267/157)