I think I posted this a while ago asking for a way to get this working after 5/30. To be more precise, Google is doing away with the less
secure apps side of their email. Is there a way around this? I have
Mystic supports SSL (TLS 1.2) when sending e-mail. I don't know what Google's change is exactly (and I haven't tested it) so I cannot comment more.
Some people have told me they are using smtp2go.com for their SMTP with Mystic.
They haven't changed their protocols, just won't allow non secure apps
to login anymore as of 5/30. No biggie, I am going to give Yahoo a shot because according to what I am reading they still have the less secure apps setup...
Paul Hayton wrote to Al DeRosa <=-
On 13 May 2022 at 07:13p, Al DeRosa pondered and said...
They haven't changed their protocols, just won't allow non secure apps
to login anymore as of 5/30. No biggie, I am going to give Yahoo a shot because according to what I am reading they still have the less secure apps setup...
I'm also wondering how I will keep this option running and have
been using Gmail too until now.
They haven't changed their protocols, just won't allow non secure apps
to login anymore as of 5/30. No biggie, I am going to give Yahoo a shot
I'm also wondering how I will keep this option running and have been
using Gmail too until now.
I also use a Gmail account to send automated/timed emails, from an event or even a cron job. Going to check out how Yahoo does it, and I heard somewhere else that a site called 'smtp2go.com' offers a free level account for doing similar things.
I can't really seem to find anything that specifies what the difference between a "more secure app" and a "less secure app" is on the Google site...
If I could figure out what they need I might be able to update it so it will continue to work. I guess I just need to find some time and get my fingers dirty trying it myself.
Let us know how Yahoo works out if you give it a shot. I know
smtp2go.com was brought up a couple of times, but their free account is limited to 1000 emails per month (which is probably fine for most
people).
Let us know how Yahoo works out if you give it a shot. I know
smtp2go.com was brought up a couple of times, but their free account is limited to 1000 emails per month (which is probably fine for most
people).
It seems like AOL email still allows SMTP and may actually work if we
were able to set the "From" email address to the account name:
On 13 May 2022, g00r00 said the following...
Let us know how Yahoo works out if you give it a shot. I know smtp2go.com was brought up a couple of times, but their free account limited to 1000 emails per month (which is probably fine for most people).
Is there a place to set the "Send From" email address (and name)?
Places like gmail would populate/override this for you automatically but sending from smtp2go.com emails are sent from "sysop@bbs.nrbbs.net" when one may prefer to have "warpslide@nrbbs.net" as the sending address (in case someone wants a reply) or perhaps "noreply@nrbbs.net" if they
didn't.
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From: "Northern Realms" <sysop@bbs.nrbbs.net>
To: "Warpslide" <user@example.domian>
Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 09:32:02
Subject: E-mail validation code for Northern Realms
Enter the following code when prompted by the BBS to validate e-mail: SFTEUHNA
===
It's also worth noting that smtp2go & sendgrid require a custom domain name to be able to work. It seems like AOL email still allows SMTP and may actually work if we were able to set the "From" email address to the account name:
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SMTP R:220 smtp.mail.yahoo.com ESMTP ready
SMTP S:EHLO bbs.nrbbs.net
SMTP R:250-hermes--canary-production-bf1-579c78cbb7-l4mcv Hello bbs.nrbbs.net SMTP R:250-PIPELINING
SMTP R:250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
SMTP R:250-8BITMIME
SMTP R:250-SIZE 41697280
SMTP R:250 STARTTLS
SMTP S:STARTTLS
SMTP R:220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS
SMTP S:EHLO bbs.nrbbs.net
SMTP R:250-hermes--canary-production-bf1-579c78cbb7-l4mcv Hello bbs.nrbbs.net SMTP R:250-PIPELINING
SMTP R:250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
SMTP R:250-8BITMIME
SMTP R:250-SIZE 41697280
SMTP R:250 AUTH PLAIN LOGIN XOAUTH2 OAUTHBEARER
SMTP S:AUTH LOGIN
SMTP R:334 VXNlcm5hbWU6
SMTP S:bnJiYnNAYW9sLmNvbQ==
SMTP R:334 UGFzc3dvcmQ6
SMTP S:bmF4cGN2aWxsbWR5a2Fsbw==
SMTP R:235 2.7.0 Authentication successful
SMTP S:MAIL FROM:<sysop@bbs.nrbbs.net>
SMTP R:550 Request failed; Mailbox unavailable
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Domain Name | bbs.nrbbs.net
Max BBS Nodes | 3
Start Hidden | No
Max Poll Threads | 0
Poll DL Limit | 0
Poll UL Limit | 0
Enable SMTP Send | Yes
SMTP Host | smtp.aol.com:587
SMTP IP Type | IPV4 Only
SMTP Login | nrbbs@aol.com
SMTP Password | ****************
SMTP Auth Type | Login
SMTP Use SSL/TLS | Yes
Jay
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I'm also wondering how I will keep this option running and have been using Gmail too until now.
I have tried their apps password, I have tried Yahoo, Hotmail all of them have done away with Less Secure apps access, nothing works.. If you figure something out let us know.. :) Thanks Paul...
I also use a Gmail account to send automated/timed emails, from an event or even a cron job. Going to check out how Yahoo does it, and I heard somewhere else that a site called 'smtp2go.com' offers a free level account for doing similar things.
Let's keep this thread going as any of us learn more about best solutions.
I can't really seem to find anything that specifies what the difference between a "more secure app" and a "less secure app" is on the Google site...
If I could figure out what they need I might be able to update it so it will continue to work. I guess I just need to find some time and get my fingers dirty trying it myself.
I have tried their apps password, I have tried Yahoo, Hotmail all of
them have done away with Less Secure apps access, nothing works.. If you figure something out let us know.. :) Thanks Paul...
Re: Re: Password Reset email..
By: Al DeRosa to Paul Hayton on Sat May 14 2022 06:53 am
Okay, I've got this sorted out. I can send automated (from a script or a cron job) emails via gmail.com still, using their "apps password". Here are the basic steps to get this working:
1. Log in to the gmail account you want to use for the emails. Since I don't want to 2-factor respond every time I login to one of my "regular" gmail accounts, I created a new account, for use with this automated sending only.
2. Enable the 2-factor authentication for this account. Somewhere under "Security" in settings.
3. Also in the Security section, you'll see a choice/link for "Apps passwords". Go in there, choose "Other" for the app, then give it a custom name (I chose 'mailx' since that's what's sending my emails). Then click "Generate" and it will give you a 16-character password to use for that account.
4. Have your script or whatever (even an email app like Thunderbird I suppose) log in with the account name and that new password, and it won't ask you for any 2-factor stuff.
For my use (on Linux), I have a mail config file called '.mailrc' in my home directory. Part of it's contents are:
account ReminderBoy {
set smtp-use-starttls
set ssl-verify=ignore
set smtp=smtp://smtp.gmail.com:587
set smtp-auth=login
set smtp-auth-user=XXXXXXXX@gmail.com
set smtp-auth-password=XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
set from="XXXXXXXX@gmail.com (Reminder Boy)"
}
This "account" is referenced from a script that calls the mailing program 'mailx', like this:
cat report | mailx -A ReminderBoy -s "Email subject here" recipient@XXX.net
Works like a champ. :-)
Let me know if any of you have success with this, if you would.
Al Derosa wrote to Dan Clough <=-
This "account" is referenced from a script that calls the mailing program 'mailx', like this:
cat report | mailx -A ReminderBoy -s "Email subject here" recipient@XXX.net
Works like a champ. :-)
Let me know if any of you have success with this, if you would.
Running in Windows, but I will definitely give everything here a
shot, will respond back with how it goes..
I have tried their apps password, I have tried Yahoo, Hotmail all of
them have done away with Less Secure apps access, nothing works.. If you figure something out let us know.. :) Thanks Paul...
g00r00 wrote to Al DeRosa <=-
I have tried their apps password, I have tried Yahoo, Hotmail all of
them have done away with Less Secure apps access, nothing works.. If you figure something out let us know.. :) Thanks Paul...
"Less Secure App" isn't really a meaningful thing its just a term
they made up I think. Mystic support TLS over SMTP which would
make it use secure protocols.
I am wondering if it just means that you have to register the
application with your Google account and they will give you a
client ID and password to login with. This is how Google does
things for home automations I think, so it might make sense here.
I am too busy again this weekend to work on it but I can try to
take a look next weekend. I have a lot of stuff going on outside
of work so my time off work is spent on other stuff right now :(
I'm not sure I can suss it Al :) But there's a good brains trust here in the group that I hope between all of us will :)
"Less Secure App" isn't really a meaningful thing its just a term they made up I think. Mystic support TLS over SMTP which would make it use secure protocols.
I am wondering if it just means that you have to register the
application with your Google account and they will give you a client ID and password to login with. This is how Google does things for home automations I think, so it might make sense here.
I am too busy again this weekend to work on it but I can try to take a look next weekend. I have a lot of stuff going on outside of work so my time off work is spent on other stuff right now :(
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Al DeRosa wrote to g00r00 <=-
"Less Secure App" isn't really a meaningful thing its just a term they made up I think. Mystic support TLS over SMTP which would make it use secure protocols.
I am wondering if it just means that you have to register the
application with your Google account and they will give you a client ID and password to login with. This is how Google does things for home automations I think, so it might make sense here.
I am too busy again this weekend to work on it but I can try to take a look next weekend. I have a lot of stuff going on outside of work so my time off work is spent on other stuff right now :(
No rush.. When you can look into it great.. It works for now, if
it stops before we can get a full working set up so be it.. I
won't push things but i will keep trying different things...
On 13 May 2022, g00r00 said the following...
Mystic supports SSL (TLS 1.2) when sending e-mail. I don't know what Google's change is exactly (and I haven't tested it) so I cannot comm more.
Some people have told me they are using smtp2go.com for their SMTP wi Mystic.
They haven't changed their protocols, just won't allow non secure apps to login anymore as of 5/30. No biggie, I am going to give Yahoo a shot becau according to what I am reading they still have the less secure apps setup.
Are you guys not seeing my posts here? I thought you answered one of them... I already posted the answer to this, right in this thread.
are you sure you configured it correctly with the app password? i got it working with pretty much everything
you could always run synchronet for only the email server and send it through that.
Are you guys not seeing my posts here? I thought you answered one of them... I already posted the answer to this, right in this thread.
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