Not sure if this has been brought up before, but I thought I would ask anyway. It appears that if someone uses an iOS device to post a message on Synchronet's web interface, the punctuation appears a little funky on Mystic boards (or even on Synchronet boards if using a terminal that doesn't support UTF-8).
Are you asking for Mystic to try to convert UTF8 to various DOS
codepages for messages with a UTF8 kludge on terminals that aren't UTF8?
Here's another example that was posted with what looks like cyrillic
text that ended up looking funky:
I do have a better "solution" to these types of things that I did a
couple years back, but its a lot of work to move it into the code so I just haven't yet. I really should do it soon though.
Please improve on the upgrade process first, g00r00! I love your work,
but there was a reason I didn't want to move to a47! PS: finally did it, and it took a *week* to get my events working properly again...
Also, now that you (and Synchro's dev) are on the FTSC, maybe you can
help with bringing Mystic and Synchro into closer harmony. This may be
the perfect example to start with!
Please improve on the upgrade process first, g00r00! I love your work but there was a reason I didn't want to move to a47! PS: finally did and it took a *week* to get my events working properly again...
What was the problem you had and what is the suggestion on how it can be improved?
The upgrade instructions are just a list of commands lines to
run that you can paste directly onto a command line. There really isn't anything else to do other than that for A47. What events that come with A47 did you have problems with?
For example this is the upgrade procedure from A47 to A48:
Run: install replace c:\mystic
Run: mutil -run packfilebases
That's it.
Also, now that you (and Synchro's dev) are on the FTSC, maybe you can help with bringing Mystic and Synchro into closer harmony. This may b the perfect example to start with!
I am not sure what that means but feel free to elaborate!
Um.../fidopoll vs ./mis poll? I'm still fairly certain that this was my biggest problem.
Having said that, the changes to 'Interval' events threw me for a loop, too! Suddenly, all off my 'Interval' events were happening every five minutes, instead of five minutes after every hour. You didn't mention
this in your update notes. I'm not the only McNoob to be confused by
this, either.
Again, I must be clear: this is intended as 'constructive' criticism,
not as insult. I wouldn't choose any other base but Mystic for PiBBS!
Sir, I would suggest that the upgrade from a46 to a47 is not the same, at all...You kinda broke a lot of stuff in that particular upgrade. And you've already admitted as much. Perhaps, I am simply adding my feedback too late?
Um.../fidopoll vs ./mis poll? I'm still fairly certain that this was biggest problem.
I figured this might be what you struggled with. I could have done better.
Having said that, the changes to 'Interval' events threw me for a loo too! Suddenly, all off my 'Interval' events were happening every five minutes, instead of five minutes after every hour. You didn't mention this in your update notes. I'm not the only McNoob to be confused by this, either.
I can assure you there was no change to the event system which was why
it was not noted.
Intervals have always executed on a time-based interval (hense the
name). I will paste the Interval documentation from 1.10 which was over
a decade ago for confirmation of intention. Out of curiosity I also installed a stock A46 and created an Interval event of 5 minutes and it executed twice in 10 minutes as expected. I will paste those logs too.
From this McNoob's point of view, it seems like Synchro and Mystic aren't agreeing on which format to communicate with...
Um.../fidopoll vs ./mis poll? I'm still fairly certain that this was biggest problem.
I figured this might be what you struggled with. I could have done better.
MIS POLL was introduced during A45. I believe I gave people 2-3 years to stop using fidopoll before I removed it entirely. Its mentioned in A45 prealpha and A46 release notes to stop using fidopoll because it will vanish eventually.
I mentioned in A47 that it was gone but it was an oversight of mine not
to mention something like "If you are still using fidopoll you need to
go replace 'fidopoll' with 'mis poll' in your scripts or event
commands...
I didn't stop and think that people who just joined Mystic in A46 would probably not have seen the warnings to stop using it. I don't think its
a problem with the upgrade process as much as it was a (hopefully) one-time mistake in my patch notes. I am sure I'll screw those up again though :)
I do have a solution for that, but I think there always is going to be some issue with various codepages and UTF8 only because they cannot
always convert between each other.
I do have some better translations in the pipeline but at the end of the day you just end up with a ? ASCII instead of a UTF8 cyrillic when it cannot convert.
Yes, sir. That was a big surprise, but not the only one...
Intervals have always executed on a time-based interval (hense the name). I will paste the Interval documentation from 1.10 which was
I can assure you that there WAS, sir, again! No longer does 'Interval' respect the 'Hour' entry! I am not the only McNoob to notice this!
Please check your work!
I can assure you that there WAS, sir, again! No longer does 'Interval respect the 'Hour' entry! I am not the only McNoob to notice this! Please check your work!
I am the only programmer so I would know if I rewrote the event system
in A47 which I did not. Assuring me that I did doesn't change that! :)
Could it be that you accidentally changed your Hourly event type to Interval? If you think there is a bug give me reproducable steps and
I'll gladly fix it.
The idea that A47 is severely broken goes against every piece of
feedback I've had so far other than yours, but like I said: If you have examples let me have them and I will gladly fix them or make
improvements.
... The dog ate my .REP packet
Possibly, it is only my own mistake...but I'm also relaying another newbie's frustrations, as well...so maybe not...we both saw strange behavior with 'Interval' events, when they happened every five minutes, instead of five minutes after every hour...
feedback I've had so far other than yours, but like I said: If you SB> g0> SB> g0> SB> g0> SB> g0> SB> g0> SB> g0> SB> g0> SB> g0> SB> g0> SB> g0> ha
examples let me have them and I will gladly fix them or make improvements.
Dude! I'm not attacking you, or your software! Relax! (@_@)
I do have a solution for that, but I think there always is going to
be some issue with various codepages and UTF8 only because they
cannot always convert between each other.
I am really hoping that you can find a way to defeat this problem!
Dude! I'm not attacking you, or your software! Relax! (@_@)
The mental gymnastics you're putting yourself through to say that I am insulted or accusing you of attacking me throughout this thread is strange. In this case you're responding to a paragraph which I
literally included smiley faces.
Sir, I was a little too hyper-sensitive when I wrote that.
Shaun Buzza wrote to g00r00 <=-
Dude! I'm not attacking you, or your software! Relax! (@_@)
The mental gymnastics you're putting yourself through to say that I am insulted or accusing you of attacking me throughout this thread is strange. In this case you're responding to a paragraph which I
literally included smiley faces.
Sir, I was a little too hyper-sensitive when I wrote that.
Quite literally, I had just defended myself from a 'troll'
immediately before that. And I was worried that I had pissed off
another person, when you said "nobody else is complaining about
a47".
I hope that you understand how much I respect both Mystic and its
creator. And I also hope you can forgive me for my faux pas.
Sorry, and thanks in advance.
Sir, I was a little too hyper-sensitive when I wrote that.
You wrote very similar things in at least a half-dozen messages. It really was very strange, and kind of creepy, actually.
Quite literally, I had just defended myself from a 'troll' immediately before that. And I was worried that I had pissed off another person, when you said "nobody else is complaining about
a47".
Well, you *WERE* the only person complaining.... some logical troubleshooting would seem to indicate that the problems were with..... you.
I hope that you understand how much I respect both Mystic and its creator. And I also hope you can forgive me for my faux pas.
Sorry, and thanks in advance.
Hahahah. There's that creepy again. You're a strange one, all right.
Shaun Buzza wrote to Dan Clough <=-
I hope that you understand how much I respect both Mystic and its creator. And I also hope you can forgive me for my faux pas.
Sorry, and thanks in advance.
Hahahah. There's that creepy again. You're a strange one, all right.
Following someone around just to make hostile comments on each of
their posts *isn't* creepy? (o_O)
Ummmm, "following around"? Nope. I read the echomail areas, and have been doing that for a LOT longer than you've been around, McNoob.
Oh, and I ignore most of your pointless and rambling posts. (o_O)
Shaun Buzza wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Ummmm, "following around"? Nope. I read the echomail areas, and have been doing that for a LOT longer than you've been around, McNoob.
And yet never comment on anything, except to continue hostilities
with me, in any area that I happen to post in.
It's almost as if you were following me around!
Oh, and I ignore most of your pointless and rambling posts. (o_O)
Please feel free to ignore *all* of my posts! Problem solved!
Shaun Buzza wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Ummmm, "following around"? Nope. I read the echomail areas, and hav been doing that for a LOT longer than you've been around, McNoob.
And yet never comment on anything, except to continue hostilities with me, in any area that I happen to post in.
That's a pretty silly statement, and (surprise!) another lie. I've posted 8-10 messages to people other than you in the last 24 hours. Oh, and what you consider "hostilities" is just me (and others) calling out your ridiculous claims and statements. I know you don't like that, but it's not exactly "hostile".
It's almost as if you were following me around!
Yeah.... you already said that (see above). Wrong again.
Oh, and I ignore most of your pointless and rambling posts. (o_O)
Please feel free to ignore *all* of my posts! Problem solved!
Problem? What problem?
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