• basic questions

    From MATT MUNSON@1:123/140 to ALL on Wed Apr 18 03:33:18 2007
    Since bbsnets has sporadic uptime and is infrequently up and the message I
    left there may not reach this forum for awhile. I will ask my basic
    questions right now.

    1. How do I do local file uploads under Maximus?

    2. Is there any better message editor for the bbs than the internal editor?

    3. Whats special about Maximus 3.02 and is there any vital changes for the
    DOS or Win32 audience?

    Thank You
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  • From Mvan Le@3:800/432 to Matt Munson on Thu Apr 19 08:43:22 2007
    Since bbsnets has sporadic uptime and is infrequently up and the message I left there may not reach this forum for awhile. I will ask my basic questions right now.

    If you don't get a response the message could've been lost/stopped in transit. Try checking another BBS closer to your Zone Coordinator.

    1. How do I do local file uploads under Maximus?

    Yeah. No builtin Local Upload for Max. Maybe that might be fixed in future.

    Look for alf30wb.zip (1996) somewhere on the FDN:

    ALF v3.0wb - Add Local File to Maximus.
    Complete file manager for Maximus v3.x.
    Import can run vircheck.bat, prompt for
    description or display entry in Maximus
    and run editor. 2xhurl has auto 2nd hurl
    30 days later! Wildcards, file tagger for
    Hurl/Kill. Sort FILES.BBS or run FB in
    current/ all areas. Touch, count, add
    missing, backup, more! EVERYTHING works
    from REMOTE. Install and online help.

    By the looks of it it's made for inline BBS execution. So it'll probably do what you want.

    I use one really crappy one called "lul2max" (1992) for Maximus 2.0(x?) which still works with v3.01. I don't know how good the ALF manager is, but maybe one
    day (and I emphasise "one day" ...) I'll write a builtin Win32 GUI file manager
    for Max with drag & drop etc but umm I think there're already sufficiently usable console based file managers for Maximus. I haven't mucked around with Maximus utilities lately, so search the FDN, maximus.outpostbbs.net or some diehard Maximus BBS.

    Seriously I just manage files/areas with Windows Explorer & notepad :) Works for me. Else use telnet uploading via your BBS telnet client.

    Anyway these tools typically use batch files and MECCA to do their work. So they're more like work-around hacks than programs.

    2. Is there any better message editor for the bbs than
    the internal editor?

    There're 2 builtin editors from the user Change Menu, 1) MaxEd (full screen editor), and 2) BORED (line-oriented editor).

    But you can use any external message editor.

    You configure it in Max.Ctl using the "Local Editor" item.

    Not quite sure how it'll handle msg quoting etc. ie. It might dump the entire message to file, and your editor will open (and quote) the entire file so you might lose selective quoting flexibillity. I don't know (I've never added an external editor myself).

    People've set up IceEdit for Maximus (and from memory there's Maximus specific documentation for IceEdit). IceEdit's pretty cool. It's a simplistic and user friendly editor.

    Synchronet offers the user a choice between different configured editors which is handy. "One day" I'll add the same feature to Maximus.

    3. Whats special about Maximus 3.02 and is there any vital changes for the DOS or Win32 audience?

    Yeah. The vital change is there're no binaries in 3.02. It's a source code distribution which you have to self-compile. I suspect it was an abandoned work-in-progress. Which means potential broken code somewhere. My guess is Scott Dudley might've been working on some new OS/2 stuff.

    But I have successfully compiled Maximus 3.02 for DOS and Win32 but it was very
    tricky. The executables appear to work. So probably no broken code there. I probably need to fix some compiler flags and read the Changes between Watcom 10.6 vs. Open Watcom 1.5 ... btw; the author stated that Watcom/Open Watcom were the only supported compilers but people have ported MaxS_302 source to gcc/Linux and called it v3.03 :)

    The annoying thing is to my knowledge the author didn't leave a change history.
    So I don't know what his aims were for 3.02, nor what was focused on before he jumped ship.

    Bottom line is I don't know what's "special" about 3.02. Maybe the author just bumped up the version for fun.

    "One day" I'll be growing money trees so perhaps if he's still alive I will contract him to update Maximus :), or maybe start a software company that develops Maximus BBS Software (!) ... but don't hold your breath.

    The problem with the current Win32 version is it can't handle DOS doors. There's no Maximus native door32.sys support, unless I or somebody fixes it "one day" or NetFoss supports it somehow (which is under consideration by Mike Elhert (top bloke)).

    --- Maximus 3.01
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Mvan Le on Thu Apr 19 05:22:00 2007
    On 04-19-07 Mvan Le wrote to Matt Munson...

    Yeah. No builtin Local Upload for Max. Maybe that might be fixed in future.

    Huh? I do it all the time-it's built right into the FSE. That feature's been built-in to it for the longest time. The only area I have it turned on though is the private local mail area and netmail...I can show you how to do it.


    The problem with the current Win32 version is it can't
    handle DOS doors. There's no Maximus native door32.sys
    support, unless I or somebody fixes it "one day" or NetFoss
    supports it somehow (which is under consideration by Mike Elhert (top

    bloke)).

    That's the nice thing about the OS/2 version-DOOR32.SYS doors work. ;)

    Later,
    Sean
    ___
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    * Origin: Outpost BBS - bbs.outpostbbs.net (1:18/200)
  • From Mvan Le@1:343/41 to Sean Dennis on Thu Apr 19 14:13:22 2007
    On 04-19-07 Mvan Le wrote to Matt Munson...

    Yeah. No builtin Local Upload for Max. Maybe that might be fixed in future.

    Huh? I do it all the time-it's built right into the
    FSE. That feature's been
    built-in to it for the longest time. The only area I
    have it turned on though
    is the private local mail area and netmail...I can show you how to do it.

    Hi Sean :)

    I think you're referring to message file attachments.

    I think the original enquiry was referring to file uploads (eg. local Zmodem).

    The problem with the current Win32 version is it can't
    handle DOS doors. There's no Maximus native door32.sys
    support, unless I or somebody fixes it "one day" or NetFoss
    supports it somehow (which is under consideration by Mike Elhert (top bloke)).

    That's the nice thing about the OS/2 version-DOOR32.SYS doors work. ;)

    How many door32.sys doors are there ? :) (I don't know, but apparently not many). Just curious.

    --- Maximus/2 3.01
    * Origin: Top Hat 2 BBS (1:343/41)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Mvan Le on Fri Apr 20 10:42:31 2007
    Mvan Le wrote in a message to Sean Dennis:

    I think the original enquiry was referring to file uploads (eg.
    local Zmodem).

    Oh, no, there isn't that. Sorry.

    How many door32.sys doors are there ? :) (I don't know, but
    apparently not many). Just curious.

    For OS/2? There's two that I know of-LORD and one of my doors (which I've since abandoned the OS/2 compiles). To be honest, not much of a difference between DOS and OS/2 native doors on my system to make that much of a difference. I write DOS doors now-at least I know they'll run on everything.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Sean Dennis on Thu Apr 26 06:09:04 2007
    Hello Sean.

    --- Maximus/2 3.01

    Sean, what version of eCS you running these days? Or are you still under Warp 4?

    Installed eCS 2.0 beta 4 here the other day. BBS runs great under it :)

    Robert

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