Hello All!

just a wish to see MBSE serve as a Direct Connect server and file storage


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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Benny Pedersen wrote to All:

just a wish to see MBSE serve as a Direct Connect server and file storage

What is a Direct Connect server, and what does it do?

You can connect directly to MBSE via telnet, IFC, ITN and Binkp. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

... Done't be sexist - Broads hate that!

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Hello Alan!

04 Dec 2015 07:28, Alan Ianson wrote to Benny Pedersen:

just a wish to see MBSE serve as a Direct Connect server and file
storage

What is a Direct Connect server, and what does it do?

i assumed too much that MBSE users know more then me on what DC+ is, sorry about that :=)

You can connect directly to MBSE via telnet, IFC, ITN and Binkp. :)

Direct Connect is P2P protocol, that means if i have huge files in fidonet it wont drain my own bandwidth to download it via P2P if MBSE supported DC+ protocol, i cant understand that in 2015 its still just using FTN without P2P support

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[N] net-p2p/bitcoin-cli (~0.11.2): Command-line JSON-RPC client specifically designed for talking to Bitcoin Core Daemon
[N] net-p2p/bitcoin-qt (0.10.2): An end-user Qt GUI for the Bitcoin crypto-currency
[N] net-p2p/bitcoind (0.10.2): Original Bitcoin crypto-currency wallet for automated services
[N] net-p2p/bitcoinxtd (~0.11.0): BitcoinXT crypto-currency wallet for automated services
[N] net-p2p/bitflu (1.50): BitTorrent client, written in Perl and is designed to run as a daemon
[N] net-p2p/bittornado (0.3.18-r2): TheShad0w's experimental BitTorrent client [N] net-p2p/bittorrent (--): Tool for distributing files via a distributed network of nodes
[N] net-p2p/btpd (--): BitTorrent client consisting of a daemon and client
[N] net-p2p/classified-ads (~0.09): Program for displaying classified advertisement items
[N] net-p2p/createtorrent (~1.1.4): Create BitTorrent files easily
[N] net-p2p/ctcs (1.4.1): interface for monitoring and managing Enhanced CTorrent clients
[N] net-p2p/ctorrent (3.3.2-r2): Enhanced CTorrent is a BitTorrent console client written in C and C++
[N] net-p2p/datacoin-hp (--): High-performance version of datacoin (primecoin-hp fork)
[N] net-p2p/dbhub (~0.451-r1): Hub software for Direct Connect, fork of opendchub
[N] net-p2p/dclib (0.3.23): DirectConnect client library
[N] net-p2p/deluge (1.3.6): BitTorrent client with a client/server model
[N] net-p2p/dogecoin-qt (~1.6): P2P Internet currency favored by Shiba Inus worldwide
[N] net-p2p/ed2k_hash (0.4.0-r1): Tool for generating eDonkey2000 links
[N] net-p2p/eiskaltdcpp (2.2.9): Qt based client for DirectConnect and ADC protocols, based on DC++ library
[N] net-p2p/fms (~0.3.75): A spam-resistant message board application for Freenet
[N] net-p2p/freenet (~0.7.5_p1470): An encrypted network without censorship
[N] net-p2p/gift (0.11.8.1-r1): A OpenFT, Gnutella and FastTrack p2p network daemon
[N] net-p2p/gift-ares (0.3.0-r1): Ares Plugin for giFT
[N] net-p2p/gift-fasttrack (0.8.9-r1): FastTrack Plugin for giFT
[N] net-p2p/gift-gnutella (0.0.11): The giFT Gnutella plugin
[N] net-p2p/gift-openft (0.2.1.6): The giFT OpenFT plugin
[N] net-p2p/giftcurs (0.6.2): A ncurses frontend to the giFT daemon
[N] net-p2p/gnut (0.4.28-r1): Text-mode gnutella client
[N] net-p2p/gtk-gnutella (1.1.5): A GTK+ Gnutella client
[N] net-p2p/gtorrentviewer (0.2b): A GTK2-based viewer and editor for BitTorrent meta files
[N] net-p2p/hx (0.4.11): This is a Hotline 1.5+ compatible *nix Hotline Client in CLI. It supports IRC compatibility
[N] net-p2p/i2p (~0.9.22-r1): A privacy-centric, anonymous network.
[N] net-p2p/imule (--): P2P sharing software which connects through I2P and Kad
networks
[N] net-p2p/kmldonkey (2.0.7(4)): Provides integration for the MLDonkey P2P software and KDE 4
[N] net-p2p/ktorrent (4.3.1-r1(4)): A BitTorrent program for KDE
[N] net-p2p/linuxdcpp (~1.0.3-r1): Direct connect client, looks and works like famous DC++
[N] net-p2p/litecoin-qt (~0.10.2.2-r1): P2P Internet currency based on Bitcoin but easier to mine
[N] net-p2p/litecoind (~0.10.2.2-r2): P2P Internet currency based on Bitcoin but easier to mine
[N] net-p2p/microdc (~0.11.0): A small command-line based Direct Connect client [N] net-p2p/microdc2 (~0.15.6-r2): A small command-line based Direct Connect client
[N] net-p2p/mktorrent (1.0-r1): Simple command line utility to create BitTorrent metainfo files
[N] net-p2p/mktorrent-borg (~0.9.9): Console .torrent file creator. It support Multi Trackers (tier groups)
[N] net-p2p/mldonkey (3.1.3): A multi-network P2P application written in Ocaml,
with its own Gtk GUI, web and telnet interface
[N] net-p2p/multibit (--): Secure, lightweight, international Bitcoin wallet written in Java
[N] net-p2p/myster (8.0-r1): Myster is a decentralized file sharing network
[N] net-p2p/nap (1.5.4-r1): Console Napster/OpenNap client
[N] net-p2p/ncdc (1.19.1): ncurses directconnect client
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[N] net-p2p/phex (--): java gnutella file-sharing application
[N] net-p2p/phxd (~0.1.0_pre23092005): Next generation Hotline server in python. kang's branch
[N] net-p2p/ppcoin-qt (~0.4.0): Cryptocurrency forked from Bitcoin which aims to be energy efficiency
[N] net-p2p/ppcoind (~0.4.0): Cryptocurrency forked from Bitcoin which aims to be energy efficiency
[N] net-p2p/primecoin-qt (~0.1.2-r1): Cryptocurrency forked from Bitcoin which aims to be energy efficiency
[N] net-p2p/primecoind (~0.1.2-r1): P2P Internet currency based on Bitcoin but easier to mine
[N] net-p2p/pybitmessage (0.4.2): P2P communications protocol
[N] net-p2p/qbittorrent (3.1.12): BitTorrent client in C++ and Qt
[N] net-p2p/retroshare (0.5.5c): P2P private sharing application
[N] net-p2p/rtorrent (0.9.3): BitTorrent Client using libtorrent
[N] net-p2p/saku (~3.11.0-r1): a clone of P2P anonymous BBS shinGETsu
[N] net-p2p/smet2html (0.1): Convert eDonkey2000 server.met to html
[N] net-p2p/soulseek-qt (~20131106-r1): Official binary Qt SoulSeek client
[N] net-p2p/syrep (~0.9): A generic file repository synchronization tool
[N] net-p2p/torrentinfo (1.8.6): A torrent file parser
[N] net-p2p/transmission (2.84-r4): A Fast, Easy and Free BitTorrent client
[N] net-p2p/transmission-remote-cli (~1.7.0): Ncurses interface for the Transmission BitTorrent client
[N] net-p2p/transmission-remote-gtk (1.1.1): GTK+ client for management of the Transmission BitTorrent client, over HTTP RPC
[N] net-p2p/tribler (6.3.3-r1): Bittorrent client that does not require a website to discover content
[N] net-p2p/tvrss (~1.8_beta): TV RSS is a tool for automating torrent downloads
[N] net-p2p/valknut (0.4.9): A open source cross platform client for the Direct
Connect network
[N] net-p2p/vuze (4.8.1.2-r1): BitTorrent client in Java, formerly called Azureus
[N] net-p2p/vuze-coreplugins (4.8.1.2): Core plugins for Vuze that are included
in upstream distribution
[N] net-p2p/wire (1.0.2): Wire is the Wired command line client
[N] net-p2p/xnap (2.5-r3): A P2P framework and client
[N] net-p2p/yaggui (0.9.2): Yet Another Gift GUI in java
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software exists, but why not use it direct in MBSE ?


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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Benny Pedersen wrote to Alan Ianson:

just a wish to see MBSE serve as a Direct Connect server and file
storage

What is a Direct Connect server, and what does it do?

i assumed too much that MBSE users know more then me on what DC+ is, sorry about that :=)

No worries. I try to keep up as best I can.. ;)

You can connect directly to MBSE via telnet, IFC, ITN and Binkp. :)

Direct Connect is P2P protocol, that means if i have huge files in fidonet it wont drain my own bandwidth to download it via P2P if MBSE supported DC+ protocol, i cant understand that in 2015 its still just using FTN without P2P support

It is an interesting idea and I have heard it floated before. I am just a user of MBSE though and not a developer so.. :)

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[N] net-p2p/rtorrent (0.9.3): BitTorrent Client using libtorrent
[N] net-p2p/transmission (2.84-r4): A Fast, Easy and Free BitTorrent

client

When I need these sort of things I use one of those two.

software exists, but why not use it direct in MBSE ?

A starting place would be needed, is there a proposal that we could use as
a starting point. It would need to be usable across BBS and/or mailer types wouldn't it?

An interesting idea but it seems complicated to me.

I guess torrent files could be made available on the BBS instead of the
actual file, as long as they are seeded.

Ttyl :-),
Al

... "Diplomacy" is letting them have it your way.

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Hello Benny!

Friday December 04 2015 16:07, you wrote to All:

Hello All!

just a wish to see MBSE serve as a Direct Connect server and file
storage

You want to expand on that - and that is assuming you are using mbse !



Vince

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04 Dec 15 18:48, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

just a wish to see MBSE serve as a Direct Connect server and file
storage

What is a Direct Connect server, and what does it do?

i assumed too much that MBSE users know more then me on what DC+ is,
sorry about that :=)

then you assume too much about FTN in toto...

You can connect directly to MBSE via telnet, IFC, ITN and Binkp. :)

Direct Connect is P2P protocol, that means if i have huge files in
fidonet it wont drain my own bandwidth to download it via P2P if MBSE supported DC+ protocol, i cant understand that in 2015 its still just using FTN without P2P support

of course it is... FTN does not (thankfully!) incorporate any P2P c4rp... if you want P2P, then you aren't looking at FTN stuffs... maybe in the future if someone developes a P2P protocol for FTN, documents it and makes it widely available where other FTN systems pick it up and start using it...

frankly, i cannot see P2P being used for FTN message transfers ever... that because each packet is specific to each individual system... if you want to try
to brainstorm something like this, the NET_DEV echo is available... be prepared
to post documentation on the operation and also develop and make availabe binaries for testing... i won't even mention embedding this in an existing mailer so that others can easily acquire and use the new method...

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
glorious revolution from the next one?"
- The twelfth Doctor

... Ya.. But if it worked 1st time.. What fun would it be?
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04 Dec 15 21:31, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

just a wish to see MBSE serve as a Direct Connect server and file
storage

You want to expand on that - and that is assuming you are using mbse !

there is that, too! especially considering the topic of this area... which also
brings up the question of why hasn't this proposal been ""spammed"" over the other mailer areas or any development echos ;)

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
glorious revolution from the next one?"
- The twelfth Doctor

... 64. Know how to cook one good meal.
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Hello mark!

Friday December 04 2015 21:23, you wrote to me:

04 Dec 15 21:31, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

just a wish to see MBSE serve as a Direct Connect server and file
storage

You want to expand on that - and that is assuming you are using
mbse !

there is that, too! especially considering the topic of this area...
which also brings up the question of why hasn't this proposal been ""spammed"" over the other mailer areas or any development echos ;)

I can see a logic for files (large) sent via the filegate using a torrent type system but it would be very difficult to exclude specific classes of traffic i.e., mail.

The general speed of the internet is enough already for the purpose - providing
we do not get large file updates on a frequent time interval such as silly game
engines that no one wants to download :)

There are one or two sources of these that drives me up the wall at times as they come from a slow source !

At the moment my (down/up) speeds has gone (over the last 2 months) from 8Mb/800Kb to 17Mb/1.2Mb.

Hopefully when we finally move to our new home in January we will get a 74Mb/20Mb (other speeds including higher are available subject to wallet which as I am retired is somewhat limited) which should cover anyone/bbs downloading from me - it is hardly the case that many/any are on their system asking this to happen but are running as an automated script.
The benefit to me will be to process uploads quicker and get the called/poller disconnected for the next one but I do allow 2 / 3 at a time to be connected (can't remember the exact number) but I do run web, ftp, rdbms, mainframe and other services at the same time and they need bandwidth between them so limit individual services - must find a way that they can all talk together so this can be more flexable - very smart switch linked to the router?


So in a nutshell - no, not really a useful function for mbse or for that matter
any other bbs/mail system.



Vince

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Vince Coen wrote to mark lewis <=-

The general speed of the internet is enough already for the purpose - providing
we do not get large file updates on a frequent time interval such as
silly game
engines that no one wants to download :)

*raises a glass* HERE, HERE! :)

... Pohl's law: Nothing is so good that somebody, somewhere, will not hate
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