Donald, are you aware that a lot of your modified doorgames using that
angel doorkit crash with a ntvdm error when run on synchronet [and perhaps other softwares?]

just something i've noticed.

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Donald, are you aware that a lot of your modified doorgames using that
angel doorkit crash with a ntvdm error when run on synchronet [and perhaps other softwares?]
just something i've noticed.

No, I had not heard anything from anyone about that situation. I don't really understand what an ntvdm error is. Daryl Stout had been using
Synchronet software on his bbs and testing my programs under that BBS for a long time, but he's changing over to a different bbs software now. He's using Virtual Advanced now by Steve Winn. I have not heard a thing from the creator of the ANGEL toolkit in a long time. Its possible that this ntvdm is occurring
due to something inside the ANGEL processes, which I have no control over.

One of the problems with ANGEL is that it doesn't have any kind of module that gives you data after a crash on what causes RTE's to occur. But I see no future
in using DDIGM since there is no one anywhere to go to for help with it, or with DDPLUS. As far as I can tell, there seems to be no one any more who actually supports pascal toolkits for the BBS programmers. At least I never see any messages on the subject in this and other BBS programming related echoes on Fidonet.

I've finished work on the Ruined Castle igm, but won't get it into distribution
until Sunday afternoon. If you'll send me an email
address to use, I can send you my igms's source code if you think you could use
it to track down the cause of the crashes. I frankly
don't have any real idea what bbs sysops are still around who both use Synchronet and are Lord programmers. I imagine you would have to be both to figure out the source of this kind of program crash.

And thanks Jason for being nice and not lambasting me for anything. I really appreciate that a lot. Donald.

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No, I had not heard anything from anyone about that situation. I don't real understand what an ntvdm error is.

NTVDM = NT virtual Dos machine

ntvdm errors occur when 16 bit applications do something 'screwy', for
example access some inner workings that conflict with windows.

the pawn shop in particular causes this error in some of the shop sections,
and i've seen it in a few other igms. i didnt say anything because they were in beta, i probably should have reported them sooner. i thought i simply had older betas and they were fixed.

been super busy with running my various systems, so i'm super short on time, especially right now with the holidays coming up.

datastream in particular is a rough system to keep up. there's always a problem cropping up, i'm glad there are two of use to handle these things.

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No, I had not heard anything from anyone about that situation. I don't real >> understand what an ntvdm error is.

NTVDM = NT virtual Dos machine
ntvdm errors occur when 16 bit applications do something 'screwy', for example access some inner workings that conflict with windows.

I've seen that sort of thing myself when I test utility programs, but have not ever seen it occur while running one of my igms in LORD. There are some specific commands in the ANGEL toolkit that work fine if you are inside LORD igms when they occur. But if you ran the same command in the igm's Setup utility, for example, it would immediately cause WinXP to shut down the window down.

With exception of work done last night and early this morning on Lord Gambling Casino, Lord Holidays, Gem Trader, and Outlands Tavern, all of my Lord programs
are fully up-to-date on the Castle Camelot web-site. You might retry some of the igms with their most up-to-date version, and let me know if the problems show up again. Right now, I don't have enough information to try to reproduce a problem, or figure out what to look at. The only person who can fix a problem if it is inside the ANGEL toolkit itself is Jimmy Rose. And I've not seen him around in these echoes in a long time. I think he's a college student, and he may simply be too busy to work on his toolkit.

the pawn shop in particular causes this error in some of the shop sections, and i've seen it in a few other igms. i didnt say anything because they were in beta, i probably should have reported them sooner. i thought i simply had older betas and they were fixed.

I appreciate the information but right now I can't do anything about those problems. Just not enough details to pinpoint what might be causing the problems. It would be nice to know for example if the same NTVDM error occurred in the same igm on two separate bbs software programs. That would probably indicate the problem was related to interaction between IGM and BBS software and the Operating system. Not that it would help that much on my end knowing that was the case. But if the problem can be reproduced then Dennis Collins or someone else probably can identify the gremlin and kill it for me.

Donald.

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