Does ANYBODY even CARE any more?
George Pope wrote in a message to ALL:
Does ANYBODY even CARE any more?
Doesn't seem like it.
that's the new mentality!
George Pope wrote in a message to ALL:
Does ANYBODY even CARE any more?
Doesn't seem like it.
There is more to life than L.O.R.D. and BBSing. While I've been
Sysoping for over 16 years, I don't spend every waking moment with
it.
If Michael's done with it, he should just turn his source over to Gameport a
He used to do a deal with The BBS XChange...I think Mike Ehlert is
handling that now.
I don't know if something happened to Michael Preslar or not...he just "disappeared".
Daryl
He used to do a deal with The BBS XChange...I think Mike Ehlert is handling that now.
I don't know if something happened to Michael Preslar or not...he just "disappeared".
i heard he died.
Re: L.O.R.D.
By: Daryl Stout to SEAN DENNIS on Fri Jun 29 2007 11:13 am
He used to do a deal with The BBS XChange...I think Mike Ehlert isi heard he died.
handling that now.
I don't know if something happened to Michael Preslar or not...he just
"disappeared".
Daryl
i heard he died.
Re: L.O.R.D.
By: Daryl Stout to SEAN DENNIS on Fri Jun 29 2007 11:13 am
He used to do a deal with The BBS XChange...I think Mike Ehlert is handling that now.
I don't know if something happened to Michael Preslar or not...he just "disappeared".
Daryl
i heard he died.
Does ANYBODY even CARE any more?
Doesn't seem like it.
Yep. I mostly run my board on auto-pilot and people don't complain too muc
If Michael's done with it, he should just turn his source over to Gameport let someone else do it. But from what he's told me, he doesn't want to giv Gameport the new source. So whatever. I'm running a 4.06 registered game I have a 4.07 registered game too.
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i heard he died.
I still see his IM's online
It would be nice to know for sure what happened to him. And it would be nic to know who, if anyone, is responsible for technical support for the games. Most of us paid money for a legal registration of LORD, and that entitled us
Jason Hud wrote in a message to Daryl Stout:
i heard he died.
He told me he had the beginnings of emphysima (sp!).
Later, Sean
i heard he died.
The Daily Happenings.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The
town is in grief. Michael Preslar did'nt come home today.
Does ANYBODY even CARE any more?
Doesn't seem like it.
That's it, then? The interweb wins? :'(
Because I care, |<+]::-{)} (Cyberpope(the Bishop of ROM!))
Yep. I mostly run my board on auto-pilot and people don't complain too
If they do complain, hey, there's about 458,770,902 other places to be in cyberspace at any given moment, give or take 358,661!
Wouldn't Gameport actually OWN the source, technically/legally, being as the contracted the project out to him?
Wouldn't Gameport actually OWN the source, technically/legally,
being as they contracted the project out to him?
i've decided to use v 4.6 because it seems more stable, and i've
done so on other bbses that i've maintained. that's not a shot at
the author, that's just what i chose to do.
SEAN DENNIS wrote to JASON HUD <=-
i heard he died.
He told me he had the beginnings of emphysima (sp!).
JASON HUD wrote to ROBERT E STARR JR <=-
I still see his IM's online
he died before he could close MSN. sad really.
Sorry LOL but that is funny, Sadly. I have often thought about that. I
got IM's, the board, etc... what happens if I die, will my wife shut everything down or keep it running? :) hehe. Knowing her, she'll shut it
all down, pack it up in the storage room and use my office for a arts
and crafts room.. the one she has always wanted.
Re: Re: L.O.R.D.By: Mindless Automaton to Jason Hud on Sun Jul 01 2007 10:00 pm
i heard he died.
The Daily Happenings.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The town is in grief. Michael Preslar did'nt come home today.
okay, that's good. you get a giant cookie from this echo for that.
i heard he died.
I still see his IM's online
he died before he could close MSN. sad really.
Sorry LOL but that is funny, Sadly. I have often thought about that. I
got IM's, the board, etc... what happens if I die, will my wife shut everything down or keep it running? :) hehe. Knowing her, she'll shut it
all down, pack it up in the storage room and use my office for a arts
and crafts room.. the one she has always wanted.
Don't feel bad, I asked my wife what she'd do with all this computer and recording equipment if I died. Her response was she'd sell it all
within a day of my funeral and so she could unpack her books / movie collection.
I still see his IM's online
he died before he could close MSN. sad really.
he has a yahoo one & icq one, right now there all offline
I still see his IM's online
he died before he could close MSN. sad really.
he has a yahoo one & icq one, right now there all offline
yes... 'offline' like the late Mr. Preslar...
On 2007-07-03 15:24:38 -0400, "Kevin Nunn -> Jason Hud" <1:397/10> said:
Sorry LOL but that is funny, Sadly. I have often thought about that. I
got IM's, the board, etc... what happens if I die, will my wife shut
everything down or keep it running? :) hehe. Knowing her, she'll shut it
all down, pack it up in the storage room and use my office for a arts
and crafts room.. the one she has always wanted.
Don't feel bad, I asked my wife what she'd do with all this computer and recording
equipment if I died. Her response was she'd sell it all within a day of my funeral and
so she could unpack her books / movie collection.
Heh.. my girlfriend said she'd just let her new boyfriend run it. :)
yes... 'offline' like the late Mr. Preslar...
right now his yahoo im, is online
yes... 'offline' like the late Mr. Preslar...
right now his yahoo im, is online
Robert E Starr JR wrote:
yes... 'offline' like the late Mr. Preslar...
right now his yahoo im, is online
This is going to sound strange... Did you Click it and say "Hi Mike" Or "Hey had a question about lord, You got a minute or would you rather email. And if it is email can I get your current one?"
I talk to his ghost all the time.
yes... 'offline' like the late Mr. Preslar...
right now his yahoo im, is online
yes... but does it just *appear* to be online because the ghost of
preslar is trying to send us a message?
yes... 'offline' like the late Mr. Preslar...
right now his yahoo im, is online
This is going to sound strange... Did you Click it and say "Hi Mike" Or "Hey had a question about lord, You got a minute or would you rather email. And if it is email can I get your current one?"
I talk to his ghost all the time.
I don't know if something happened to Michael Preslar or not...he just "disappeared".
i heard he died.
In a reply from Jason Hud on 13:33 about L.O.R.D.
I still see his IM's online
he died before he could close MSN. sad really.
he has a yahoo one & icq one, right now there all offline
right now his yahoo im, is online
yes... but does it just *appear* to be online because the ghost of preslar is trying to send us a message?
don't know
This is going to sound strange... Did you Click it and say "Hi Mike" Or "Hey had a question about lord, You got a minute or would you rather email. And if it is email can I get your current one?"
nope
P.S. I've told Donald several times in an email that "there is more to
life than L.O.R.D. and its IGMs. I have the BBS and my ham radio to keep
me busy in the aftermath of my wifes death 10 weeks ago, but I don't
spend every waking moment with them.
I don't know if something happened to Michael Preslar or not...he just "disappeared".
i heard he died.
I talk to his ghost all the time.
Robert E Starr JR wrote:
In a reply from Jason Hud on 13:33 about L.O.R.D.
I still see his IM's online
he died before he could close MSN. sad really.
he has a yahoo one & icq one, right now there all offline
right now his yahoo im, is online
heh. I'm outside his house, I don't see any movement.. ;)
-Mindless Automaton
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i personally got the code for the new lord version, they still had my registration on file from waaaaaay back in the 90's [lord+planets were my first doorgames that i registered, out of 4, i think]
Jason Hud wrote in a message to George Pope:
i've decided to use v 4.6 because it seems more stable, and i've
done so on other bbses that i've maintained. that's not a shot at
the author, that's just what i chose to do.
That's what I'm running here too.
As for Mike, haven't heard from him myself in awhile. I emailed him
awhat back because I had files on my system for him, but he never
replied back.
he died before he could close MSN. sad really.
Sorry LOL but that is funny, Sadly. I have often thought about that. I
got IM's, the board, etc... what happens if I die, will my wife shut everything down or keep it running? :) hehe. Knowing her, she'll shut it all down, pack it up in the storage room and use my office for a arts
and crafts room.. the one she has always wanted.
How's that relevant to the author, who's been around since 4.0x
something, hasn't he?
Wasn't Seth's last one 4.00?
Then Preslar did the infamous Jennie goof, by fiddling with the code
just for fun/curiosity, and I think that was 4.06, wasn't it?
(where typing JENNIE summarily logged you out of the game)
And wasn't 4.07 the fix, after a while?
first doorgames that i registered, out of 4, i think]
I'm a little upset with Gameport, as I sent them my $15 to get LORD2 registered, but never got a code. . . :(
Sure, I may have complicated matters by not being a BBS, but if that's a problem, they should've returned my money order!
Wasn't Seth's last one 4.00?
Then Preslar did the infamous Jennie goof, by fiddling with the code just fo fun/curiosity, and I think that was 4.06, wasn't it?
(where typing JENNIE summarily logged you out of the game) And wasn't
4.07 the fix, after a while?
awhat back because I had files on my system for him, but he never replied back.
I've paged him in MSN and never gotten a reply in some time now. . . :P
Because I care, |<+]::-{)} (Cyberpope(the Bishop of ROM!))
No. Seth did that Jennie "goof", not Michael. Michael /REMOVED/ the Jennie cheat. Seth had the hots for Jennie Garth, not Michael. That "Jennie" thin was around in the 3.x versions.
Michael has been around since 4.02, IIRC, or since 1998. Michael made a ver major change with 4.07 by switching doorkits to rewrite LORD to run on different platforms, such as OS/2 and Linux. However, in doing so, there we a few sacrifices, such as speed (since there is a lot of code to go through when running the program). But for some reason, 4.07 is rather notorious fo being the buggiest version of them all.
I'm a little upset with Gameport, as I sent them my $15 to get LORD2 registered, but never got a code. . . :(
Sure, I may have complicated matters by not being a BBS, but if that's a problem, they should've returned my money order!
Because I care,
|<+]::-{)} (Cyberpope(the Bishop of ROM!))
... nfx v3.1 Lighten up, Everybody! Life ain't even PERMANENT!
I'm a little upset with Gameport, as I sent them my $15 to get LORD2 registered, but never got a code. . . :(
Sure, I may have complicated matters by not being a BBS, but if that's a problem, they should've returned my money order!
Because I care,
|<+]::-{)} (Cyberpope(the Bishop of ROM!))
... nfx v3.1 Lighten up, Everybody! Life ain't even PERMANENT!
nor do i think anybody has given any support for what michael has done;
this all may be related to his 'disappearance'.
At any rate, why bother registering Lord II anyway one might say since
that game has also been abandoned. ..When was the last time one can see any work done on that door game after all? ..Four or more years I think.
Planets TEOS is also abandoned software that no one is working on.
yeah, the cheat is now 'gauge'
no i am not incinuating that preslar took a hike. he worked on it
last year and that's good enough for me.
You know on this. ( Which I know nothing and apparently I am just protecting a friend ) Michael released his betas over his email
system.
He got only one person that would give him bug reports.
So he did the beta and got NO bug reports. Now that it is out
everyone bitches. There is not a community any more. And when he
gets time I am sure he will come back. Just my .02
letHe got only one person that would give him bug reports.
What a load of BS. I gave Michael several bug reports, both for the DOS and OS/2 versions. I not only emailed them to him, I also tried to call him to
him know. So this "one person" thing is a figment of someone's drug-induced imagination.
liarSo he did the beta and got NO bug reports. Now that it is out
everyone bitches. There is not a community any more. And when he
gets time I am sure he will come back. Just my .02
You're right, it's your two cents' worth because that's a damn lie that only one person gave him bug reports. It's a shame that Michael's now become a
on top of a welcher too.
You're only being fed what Michael wants to tell you and not the truth.
At any rate, why bother registering Lord II anyway one might say since that game has also been abandoned. When was the last time one can see any workdone
on that door game after all? Four or more years I think.
Planets TEOS is also
abandoned software that no one is working on.
yeah, the cheat is now 'gauge'
He's a human being with feelings, and i'm sure he's gone through some hard things in life, like a lot of us have. sometimes it's best to save our sanity
for a while by cutting our link with what is dragging us down.
Re: L.O.R.D.
By: George Pope to Sean Dennis on Wed Jul 04 2007 01:06 pm
foWasn't Seth's last one 4.00?
Then Preslar did the infamous Jennie goof, by fiddling with the code just
fun/curiosity, and I think that was 4.06, wasn't it?
(where typing JENNIE summarily logged you out of the game) And wasn't
4.07 the fix, after a while?
sure that was through the whole 4.6 run?
gameport has a bad reputation.
if i were you i'd keep pestering them. i beleive they only have one person to
answer all the emails.
Michael has been around since 4.02, IIRC, or since 1998. Michael made a verywere
major change with 4.07 by switching doorkits to rewrite LORD to run on different platforms, such as OS/2 and Linux. However, in doing so, there
a few sacrifices, such as speed (since there is a lot of code to go through when running the program). But for some reason, 4.07 is rather notorious for
being the buggiest version of them all.
Wasn't Seth's last one 4.00?
It was whenever he sold the rights to the game to Metropolis.
Then Preslar did the infamous Jennie goof, by fiddling with the code just for fun/curiosity, and I think that was 4.06, wasn't it?
No. Seth did that Jennie "goof", not Michael. Michael /REMOVED/ the Jennie cheat. Seth had the hots for Jennie Garth, not Michael. That "Jennie" thing
was around in the 3.x versions.
(where typing JENNIE summarily logged you out of the game)
And wasn't 4.07 the fix, after a while?
It was fixed long before that.
Bryan Turner wrote in a message to Robert E Starr JR:
I talk to his ghost all the time.
Might as well be his ghost because he evidently doesn't have the chutzpah to face paying customers.
That's why the rest of us are running cracked 4.06 since he doesn't have the balls to fix his screwups in 4.07.
In a reply from Bryan Turner on 17:28 about Re: L.O.R.D.
yes... 'offline' like the late Mr. Preslar...
right now his yahoo im, is online
This is going to sound strange... Did you Click it and say "Hi Mike" Or "Hey had a question about lord, You got a minute or would you rather email. And if it is email can I get your current one?"
nope
I talk to his ghost all the time.
ok
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no no no! it does not work like that. developers are not human beings.
they are vending machines.
we put our money in and we get what we want. if we dont like what we get we pound on them and shake them!
Jason Hud wrote in a message to Sean Dennis:
yeah, the cheat is now 'gauge'
Wonder if that's for the pr0n* who goes by Gauge...
no i am not incinuating that preslar took a hike. he worked on it last year and that's good enough for me.
I just retrograded and that's fine, but since no one's really playing it on my board, I may just take it down.
Later,
Sean
You know on this. ( Which I know nothing and apparently I am just protecting a friend ) Michael released his betas over his email system. He got only
one person that would give him bug reports. Unfortunately that person is just running a local copy and will not load up even the simplest of bbs software to run telnet So the bugs could not be found. Also running
And what would be the reasons for doing that? I know of no bugs in the
game. (No software is 100% bug free, but programmers can only fix what
they know about) Past that, how many TEOS players are there out there?
-- Michael
He's a human being with feelings, and i'm sure he's gone through some hard things in life, like a lot of us have. sometimes it's best to save our san for a while by cutting our link with what is dragging us down.
Ya know, I can smell your stank ass down here in Omaha. Heh.
Some people have the ability to see things from someone else's
Then Preslar did the infamous Jennie goof, by fiddling with the code just for fun/curiosity, and I think that was 4.06, wasn't it?
No. Seth did that Jennie "goof", not Michael. Michael /REMOVED/ the Jenni cheat. Seth had the hots for Jennie Garth, not Michael. That "Jennie" thi was around in the 3.x versions.
(where typing JENNIE summarily logged you out of the game)
And wasn't 4.07 the fix, after a while?
It was fixed long before that.
I'm a little upset with Gameport, as I sent them my $15 to get LORD2 registered, but never got a code. . . :(
Sure, I may have complicated matters by not being a BBS, but if that's a problem, they should've returned my money order!
gameport has a bad reputation.
if i were you i'd keep pestering them. i beleive they only have one person answer all the emails.
Then Preslar did the infamous Jennie goof, by fiddling with the code jus fun/curiosity, and I think that was 4.06, wasn't it?
(where typing JENNIE summarily logged you out of the game) And wasn't 4.07 the fix, after a while?
sure that was through the whole 4.6 run?
I've paged him in MSN and never gotten a reply in some time now. . . :P
<sigh>
I'm a little upset with Gameport, as I sent them my $15 to get LORD2 registered, but never got a code. . . :(
Sure, I may have complicated matters by not being a BBS, but if that's a problem, they should've returned my money order!
Because I care,
|<+]::-{)} (Cyberpope(the Bishop of ROM!))
... nfx v3.1 Lighten up, Everybody! Life ain't even PERMANENT!
Write them a nice email message and ask them to either to send what you purchased, or to send the money order back to you via registered mail. Alternately, you can always tell your Postmaster about the problem and have U.S. Post Office do an investigation. It is fraudulent for a company to ta people's money and not give you the product that you are buying, according federal law. Up to you whether you want to pursue that avenue of course. it is a definitely good idea to use credit cards for such purpose if I rec correctly since there are credit card company policies that allow you to ca a credit card charge where the product you purchased is never delivered to
Not sure how that works with the Post office and money orders, or money or that you get from your bank/credit union.
Never, ever, send cash money to purchase something. I learned that in coll Economics class I think, or maybe it was in High school classes.
At any rate, why bother registering Lord II anyway one might say since that game has also been abandoned. When was the last time one can see any work on that door game after all? Four or more years I think. Planets TEOS is a abandoned software that no one is working on. As is Worldgroup Tournament L
At least with Wildcat Tournament Lord, you know in advance that the author can't do new versions of it due to his (Marcelletti) having lost the source code in three or more hard drive crashes. That dude had MAJOR common-sense problems not ever having done backups of his stuff in some fashion - either tape drive cartridge, floppy disks, iomega zip disks, cd-roms, etc.
I wonder how many other programmers out there have lost programs in hard dr crashes that had failed to do reliable backups beforehand? Donald
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yes... but does it just *appear* to be online because the ghost of preslar is trying to send us a message?
don't know
okay, i think we need some candles, incense and some ouija boards..
and possibly several naked virgins and a bottle of gentleman jack.
get me these things and i will work on it ASAP.
This is going to sound strange... Did you Click it and say "Hi Mike" "Hey had a question about lord, You got a minute or would you rather email. And if it is email can I get your current one?"
nope
there ya go.
Might as well be his ghost because he evidently doesn't have the chutzpah t face paying customers.
That's why the rest of us are running cracked 4.06 since he doesn't have th balls to fix his screwups in 4.07.
He's a human being with feelings, and i'm sure he's gone through some hard things in life, like a lot of us have. sometimes it's best to save our sani for a while by cutting our link with what is dragging us down.
i can see both sides, actually.
i myself would have taken a hike a long time ago.. WITH my source.
But.. If Bryan is being fed by me, at least he's eating. Meaning:
He does stay in touch, he does know what he's talking about, and
he can be relied upon for truth. That's a lot better than talking
shit, and then having to eat crow later.
Have you addressed Gameport, who you are the customer of?
(Michael's just the hired help!)
Then you're not a person with ethics or honour, because if you've
been paid to do a programming job, that includes standing behind
your work for a reasonable time after.
And, when you've been contracted, it's not "your" source!
I can't be bothered -- I'm bored with the L2 clones I wanted the registratio for!
(where typing JENNIE summarily logged you out of the game) And wasn't 4.07 the fix, after a while?
sure that was through the whole 4.6 run?
It was immediately after Michael got the code, cuz(he admited to me in email he couldn't avoid the temptation to look at his hero's code as soon as he go it. . .
My problem: I'm in Canada, and I don't have the receipt for the money order (which my end needs to lauch a trace)
Because I care, |<+]::-{)} (Cyberpope(the Bishop of ROM!))
and possibly several naked virgins and a bottle of gentleman jack.
get me these things and i will work on it ASAP.
Do you mean a bottle of John Daniels? I always have a couple bottles around just in case there's a problem in the distribution processes. . .
there ya go.
I just IMed him asking which email was best for LORD topics. . .
but he's showing as away in Yahoo, so who knows when the reply will come, if ever. . .
I thought he was mainly an MSN user?
I'll post in here what/when I hear back! :)
long time ago.. WITH my source.
Then you're not a person with ethics or honour, because if you've been paid do a programming job, that includes standing behind your work for a reasonab time after.
And, when you've been contracted, it's not "your" source!
Because I care, |<+]::-{)} (Cyberpope(the Bishop of ROM!))
"Abandoned".. True, not much of anything has been done to the game in a long while. Let's take a look at what could be done with it.
Option 1) Fix any known issues. I personally know of none. If someone
can show me a bug, I'll fix it. And no, I cannot fix something in some
3rd party IGM/addon/world.
Option 2) Refine the scripting engine. To do this, I'd need to look at Option 3
Option 3) Expand the scripts and maps.
Seth's last version was 4.01a (or was it 4.01b?).. My first version was 4.02. Originally, I had only intended to change the copyright info in
4.02, but I got ahead of myself and moved the Jennie code to the
overlay.. Without adding {$O+} to jennie.pas.. So the program would
crash in that spot. But it was quickly fixed (I released the fix, 4.02b, the day after) and alls been well with Jennie ever since.
gameport has a bad reputation.
if i were you i'd keep pestering them. i beleive they only have one perso
answer all the emails.
Correct - A woman named Shannon handles all incoming emails regarding support and registrations for Lord, Lord 2, TEOS, TLord, MajorMud, and a ton of other stuff. When she cannot take care of something/someone personally, she contacts someone that can.
Sean has not emailed me since May 15, and the email he sent was
requesting another copy of a patch that I had sent him already.
Yet, Sean has posted messages in Fido echos and used the words "liar"
and "welcher" to describe me. (Those are just the ones I remember. Who knows what he has said in other places.)
And he publicly admits to running a warez'd game.
Can anyone help me understand why I should support Sean?
Ya know, that's kind of like marriage.. Except she takes my money away before she pounds on me and shakes me.
Not sure which option this falls under, but is it possible to set it up so t an IGM doesn't install over another's map screen(s)? At least to flag the sysop at installation that these two IGMs "(name1 & name2) are incompatible, and allow the sysop to choose just the one to have pre-eminence?
Some might say there's no ending to the game -- I say there are TWO, and that's the way it should be -- after you win as both Koshi & Dragontooth, yo
blah. nobody likes lord2 anyways.
blah. nobody likes lord2 anyways.
I do. :)
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Some might say there's no ending to the game -- I say there are TWO, and that's the way it should be -- after you win as both Koshi & Dragontooth
blah. nobody likes lord2 anyways.
blah. nobody likes lord2 anyways.
I do. :)
blah. nobody likes lord2 anyways.
You don't speak for everybody.
And, yes, there are fans of L2 out there!
blah. nobody likes lord2 anyways.
I do. :)
Me, too!
So I think we've well & truly debunked his claim.
blah. nobody likes lord2 anyways.I do. :)
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