I've had that happen before, in a fairly old version. . . what ver. you GP>running?

L.O.R.D. 4.07 -- the latest one. I know that 4.08 is in beta, but I'm
not beta testing anything L.O.R.D. Related...except for the L.O.R.D.
Holidays IGM that Donald Tidmore is doing.

Daryl

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I've had that happen before, in a fairly old version. . . what ver. you
running?

L.O.R.D. 4.07 -- the latest one. I know that 4.08 is in beta, but I'm
not beta testing anything L.O.R.D. Related...except for the L.O.R.D.
Holidays IGM that Donald Tidmore is doing. > Daryl

It would be hard for anyone to update to LORD's various v4.08 betas, including DOS LORD, since it appears that Michael Preslar is no longer sending beta archives to anyone, I have been told. At least one person who wanted to update
from v4.07 to v4.08 never got any assistance from Michael, who appears to have
abandoned all support of the LORD games. And no one who does have a v4.08 LORD
beta is allowed to distribute their copy to others.

It has been over six months since LORD was re-released as 4.08 beta, for DOS LORD, LORD for Windows, LORD for OS/2, and LORD for Linux, back in the last week of September 2006. Since that time, no one seems to know why the games seem to have been abandoned, and are not being worked on at all. And no one can get any answers from the Lordlegacy web-site I have noticed, which has not been updated since June 2006 as to its News page.

It took one registered LORD user several months to get their logon ID info from
Preslar for access to the LordLegacy Forums, which also appear to have been left unattended in recent months. It is possible that Metropolis Gameport did not want LORD to be worked on any more for some reason. There are a lot of unanswered questions being asked about this situation by many people.

And there are several glitches in v4.08 beta that need to be fixed that should have been taken care of months ago. There are several parts of LORD that are not functional because of programming glitches, which are related to the problem you have encountered in LORD 4.07 about it crashing when it could not find an LORDANSI.DAT file. Which is not inside any of the LORD archives, either for DOS LORD 4.07 or DOS LORD 4.08 beta.

In the Dark Cloak Tavern in the LORD Forest, for instance, it is impossible to change your Skill Class with its bartender. When one tries to use that menu option, nothing happens. The ansi code for that skill class change appears to be intact in the LORD 4.08 beta LORDTXT.DAT file, but for some reason LORD fails to make use of it. Things like that may not be major problems, but the users of LORD deserve to have them fixed eventually.

If we are lucky, maybe we will learn answers some day as to why the LORD games have been left unattended for all these months. In the meantime, we are all forced to just live with the glitches and LORD crashes. Donald.

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Re: LORDANSI.DAT file vanishe
By: Donald Tidmore to Daryl Stout on Sat Apr 07 2007 12:17 am

It would be hard for anyone to update to LORD's various v4.08 betas, includi DOS LORD, since it appears that Michael Preslar is no longer sending beta

big deal. they dont _need_ to run the betas. running a beta is a priviledge.

archives to anyone, I have been told. At least one person who wanted to upd from v4.07 to v4.08 never got any assistance from Michael, who appears to h abandoned all support of the LORD games.

perhaps he isnt distributing the beta anymore. are you aware that a lot of these people that try to get their hands on betas are not even computer literate enough to run a bbs software [take yourself for example].

It has been over six months since LORD was re-released as 4.08 beta, for DOS LORD, LORD for Windows, LORD for OS/2, and LORD for Linux, back in the last

six months isnt such a long time, considering. you want weekly releases? WTF?

can get any answers from the Lordlegacy web-site I have noticed, which has n been updated since June 2006 as to its News page.

again, not such a long time. that was last summer.

It took one registered LORD user several months to get their logon ID info f Preslar for access to the LordLegacy Forums, which also appear to have been left unattended in recent months.

there's a forum??

It is possible that Metropolis Gameport d
not want LORD to be worked on any more for some reason. There are a lot of

tidmore, you need to stop pulling these unfounded assumptions out of your
ass.

If we are lucky, maybe we will learn answers some day as to why the LORD gam have been left unattended for all these months.

relax chickenlittle. the sky is not falling just because the author has something called 'REAL LIFE' that he is working on at the moment.

breath deeply.

In the meantime, we are all
forced to just live with the glitches and LORD crashes. Donald.

just run a slightly older [but just as enjoyable] stable release. that's what i do, and i have ZERO problems.

a LOT of the stuff that YOU claim to work on has a LOT of issues, not to

mention ugly yellow nag screens. how many months must WE wait until you fix those issues and remove those screens.

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L.O.R.D. 4.07 -- the latest one. I know that 4.08 is in beta, but I'm
not beta testing anything L.O.R.D. Related...except for the L.O.R.D. Holidays IGM that Donald Tidmore is doing.

Yeah, I go=t tired of running beta stuff, too! :P

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L.O.R.D. 4.07 -- the latest one. I know that 4.08 is in beta, but I'm GP>DS> not beta testing anything L.O.R.D. Related...except for the L.O.R.D. GP>DS> Holidays IGM that Donald Tidmore is doing.

Yeah, I go=t tired of running beta stuff, too! :P

I still have no idea why that deal showed up, where the LORDANSI.DAT
file vanished. But, I've seen several other reports of similar
instances.

Speaking of beta, it reminds me of the bulletin on the BBS
"You Want To Be A Sysop?" It's a combination of several files, showing
the TRUTH of being a Sysop, behind the modem and telnet light stage. One
of the items, covering software, notes that "you learn what the term
'beta test site' really means". I'd rather just proofread documentation, myself.

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relax chickenlittle. the sky is not falling just because the author has JH>something called 'REAL LIFE' that he is working on at the moment.

breath deeply.

Exactly. There is MORE TO LIFE than BBSing, L.O.R.D., etc.

The only beta of his I'm testing is L.O.R.D. Holidays...I went back to
the last full release of all of his other IGMs after that LORDANSI.DAT
mess.

I also was lucky enough to register all of Ken Weitzel's L.O.R.D.
IGMs, and I also took advantage of Nannette Thackers website deal to
register her 3 L.O.R.D. IGMs, and the rest of her doors for only $10

Unfortunately, support and upgrades for both of these sets of IGMS has
ended.

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Re: LORDANSI.DAT file vanishe
By: George Pope to Daryl Stout on Fri Apr 06 2007 02:10 am

L.O.R.D. 4.07 -- the latest one. I know that 4.08 is in beta, but I'm not beta testing anything L.O.R.D. Related...except for the L.O.R.D. Holidays IGM that Donald Tidmore is doing.

Yeah, I go=t tired of running beta stuff, too! :P

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runing beta software is often not worth it, if there are previous releases
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Re: LORDANSI.DAT file vanishe
By: Daryl Stout to JASON HUD on Mon Apr 09 2007 07:04 am

Unfortunately, support and upgrades for both of these sets of IGMS has ended.

yeah, it sucks. there's actually some igms i'd like to register..some are my favorites. it's too bad i cant register them now ;[

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Hi...

I also was lucky enough to register all of Ken Weitzel's L.O.R.D.

>IGMs, and I also took advantage of Nannette Thackers website deal to
>register her 3 L.O.R.D. IGMs, and the rest of her doors for only $10


My goodness, what a coincidence to see my name appear
just when I have a bit of good news that may interest
one or two of you who might remember....

The 'tis the Season IGM - with it's contribute to a kiddie's
charity - was in memory of my daughter Kelly, who was
abducted 36 years ago... (the order.frm ended with
Merry Christmas, Kelly)

Well, only a couple of weeks ago she finally made contact
with me, and it was wonderful! :) We've spoken on the
phone a few times, exchanged letters, even a few
e-mails, and hopefully in time can meet in person..

Here's hoping :)

Take care.

Ken

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breath deeply.

Exactly. There is MORE TO LIFE than BBSing, L.O.R.D., etc.

CYBER-HERETIC!!!!

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Unfortunately, support and upgrades for both of these sets of IGMS has ended.

yeah, it sucks. there's actually some igms i'd like to register..some are my JH>favorites. it's too bad i cant register them now ;[

That appears to be the case with Ken Weitzel's IGMs. Nannette Thacker
offers all of her doors (3 of them, MoonChat, The County Fair, and
Phantom Of The Catacombs, are also L.O.R.D. IGMs) for only $10 on her
website.

Donald Tidmore's IGMs are freeware, as are the few that Bryan Turner
did. I never heard back from Lloyd Hanneson, as I wanted to put his
Felicity's Temple and The Graveyard IGMs in my game.

Daryl

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breath deeply.

Exactly. There is MORE TO LIFE than BBSing, L.O.R.D., etc.

CYBER-HERETIC!!!!

Reality sucks. But, with no money to pay the bills, there can be no
BBS in the first place. Sysoping is not for the financially anemic.
Besides, you do have to eat, sleep, use the bathroom, etc...and with my illnesses and disabilities, I spend too much time in the "Reading Room"
as it is now.

Daryl

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OH MY GOD KEN!

CONGRATS!

Hope everything turns out great!

On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 21:37 +0000, KEN WEITZEL wrote:

Hi...

I also was lucky enough to register all of Ken Weitzel's L.O.R.D.

>IGMs, and I also took advantage of Nannette Thackers website deal to
>register her 3 L.O.R.D. IGMs, and the rest of her doors for only $10

My goodness, what a coincidence to see my name appear
just when I have a bit of good news that may interest
one or two of you who might remember....

The 'tis the Season IGM - with it's contribute to a kiddie's
charity - was in memory of my daughter Kelly, who was
abducted 36 years ago... (the order.frm ended with
Merry Christmas, Kelly)

Well, only a couple of weeks ago she finally made contact
with me, and it was wonderful! :) We've spoken on the
phone a few times, exchanged letters, even a few
e-mails, and hopefully in time can meet in person..

Here's hoping :)

Take care.

Ken

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OH MY GOD KEN!<BR>

CONGRATS!<BR>

Hope everything turns out great!<BR>

On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 21:37 +0000, KEN WEITZEL wrote:
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">The 'tis the Season IGM - with it's contribute to a kiddie's</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Here's hoping :)</FONT>

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KEN WEITZEL wrote in a message to DARYL STOUT:

Here's hoping :)

That's absolutely wonderful news, Ken. Hopefully now your life will feel more complete. Here's to you and your daughter catching up!

Later,
Sean

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did. I never heard back from Lloyd Hanneson, as I wanted to put his Felicity's Temple and The Graveyard IGMs in my game.

I thought that I saw a post over on the bbsfiles.com forum that Lloyd had lost the source code and key generator for his Graveyard IGM. I could be wrong bu I saw something about Graveyard on the forums there.

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Hi...

Hi, Ken...

My goodness, what a coincidence to see my name appear
just when I have a bit of good news that may interest
one or two of you who might remember....

We had wondered what had happened to you.

The 'tis the Season IGM - with it's contribute to a kiddie's
charity - was in memory of my daughter Kelly, who was
abducted 36 years ago... (the order.frm ended with
Merry Christmas, Kelly)

It had been so long since I looked at that.

Well, only a couple of weeks ago she finally made contact
with me, and it was wonderful! :) We've spoken on the
phone a few times, exchanged letters, even a few
e-mails, and hopefully in time can meet in person..

That is definitely good news.

Daryl

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Daryl Stout wrote to JASON HUD <=-

Donald Tidmore's IGMs are freeware, as are the few that Bryan Turner did. I never heard back from Lloyd Hanneson, as I wanted to put his Felicity's Temple and The Graveyard IGMs in my game.

Hey Daryl,

Just so you know my IGMs are freeware, but I had the registration option there just to see if anyone was actually using them :) If you indeed would like to register them, send me an email: dasme@dasme.org and I'll creat esome key files for you. Include Name,BBS, etc in the email and I'll get it done in a couple days :)

Lloyd Hannesson

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KEN WEITZEL wrote to DARYL STOUT <=-

Well, only a couple of weeks ago she finally made contact
with me, and it was wonderful! :) We've spoken on the
phone a few times, exchanged letters, even a few
e-mails, and hopefully in time can meet in person..

Ken!
That is some great news! Car and I are so happy to hear it. Good luck!

Lloyd Hannesson

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Re: LORDANSI.DAT file vanishe
By: KEN WEITZEL to DARYL STOUT on Fri Apr 13 2007 09:37 pm

The 'tis the Season IGM - with it's contribute to a kiddie's charity
- was in memory of my daughter Kelly, who was abducted 36 years
ago... (the order.frm ended with Merry Christmas, Kelly)

Well, only a couple of weeks ago she finally made contact with me,
and it was wonderful! :) We've spoken on the phone a few times,
exchanged letters, even a few e-mails, and hopefully in time can
meet in person..

wow, that is amazing. i am so happy for you, ken.

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runing beta software is often not worth it, if there are previous releases out there.

Agreed. I guess the only real reason there's a general release of a beta is because the public demanded it of the author. . .

So let THEM have it, I say.

I think the better way is when the author has a small trusted cadre of beta testers, who understand the responsibilities of a beta test cycle! :)

It's not appropriate to dump betas on unsuspecting/unqualified l-users! :P

Because I care,
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Exactly. There is MORE TO LIFE than BBSing, L.O.R.D., etc.

CYBER-HERETIC!!!!

Reality sucks. But, with no money to pay the bills, there can be no
BBS in the first place. Sysoping is not for the financially anemic. Besides, you do have to eat, sleep, use the bathroom, etc...and with my illnesses and disabilities, I spend too much time in the "Reading Room"
as it is now.

I know you have exceptional circumstances -- I was addressing the idea that users/callers should ever think like the above! ;)

Because I care,
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