Was the Charm Bug fixed? I just realize that a few games I've played keep taking charm away constantly and you never get any :(

Jah


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Was the Charm Bug fixed? I just realize that a few games I've played keep taking charm away constantly and you never get any :(
Jah

Can you be more detailed? What charm bug are you referring to? Which version of DOS LORD are you talking about? Remember we have a dozen or so that bbs's still use. Not everyone wants to play the most current version sometimes. If you are referring to that crazy old man whacking people with the ugly stick too
much, the sysop running the lord game can always delete the Ugly Stick event altogether. Either by taking it out of events.ldy or taking it out of lord.ldy
so it never gets executed at random by LORD.

Send details on these bugs to Michael Preslar at mike@lordlegacy.com if you want them worked on. Just remember he can only fix them in the Lord 4.08 beta code. There's no retrograde changes to already released official versions of LORD ever done.

BTW, what is Jahmas stand for? Is it a name or a nickname?
Donald

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I think the charm bug is really a combination of too many ugly stick events, *NO* pretty stick events (absolutely none), and very few "take the old man back to the inn" events.

This BBS is running version "4.07 in the works", and in several years and with the help of the JENNIE code as often as possible, I've never had more than 20 or so charm. I think I'm down to about 10 at the moment.

Drew

On Thursday, September 28, 2006 at 04:04 PM, Donald Tidmore (1:261/38) wrote:

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Was the Charm Bug fixed? I just realize that a few games I've played kee DT>> taking charm away constantly and you never get any :(
Jah

Can you be more detailed? What charm bug are you referring to? Which vers DT>f DOS LORD are you talking about? Remember we have a dozen or so that bbs' DT>till use. Not everyone wants to play the most current version sometimes. DT>ou are referring to that crazy old man whacking people with the ugly stick DT>oo much, the sysop running the lord game can always delete the Ugly Stick DT>vent altogether. Either by taking it out of events.ldy or taking it out of DT>ord.ldy so it never gets executed at random by LORD.

Send details on these bugs to Michael Preslar at mike@lordlegacy.com if you DT>ant them worked on. Just remember he can only fix them in the Lord 4.08 be DT>ode. There's no retrograde changes to already released official versions o DT>ORD ever done.

BTW, what is Jahmas stand for? Is it a name or a nickname?
Donald

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I think the charm bug is really a combination of too many ugly stick

events, >*NO* pretty stick events (absolutely none), and very few "take the old man bac > to the inn" events.

That can can have a devastating effect on your Charm Points for sure. Have you
tried asking your sysop to disable the Ugly Stick from occurring? If he does not know how to do it, have him contact me or Michael Preslar.

Michael can be reached here in this echo, in DoorGames echo, via email at mike@lordlegacy.com, and via other methods listed on his web-site at http:///www.michaelpreslar.com/. People can reach me in the same echoes, and via email at ktidmore@bellsouth.net.

This BBS is running version "4.07 in the works", and in several years

and with > the help of the JENNIE code as often as possible, I've never had more than 20 > or so charm. I think I'm down to about 10 at the moment.

You need to tell your sysop that its time for him to upgrade to the official release of LORD v4.07. It was distributed on June 07, 2006, and be obtained at
the http://www.lordlegacy.com web-site. You can also tell him that LORD v4.08 is now in beta. He can learn how to get it by contacting Michael Preslar via email or Fidonet echo mail.

Regarding increasing your Charm Points, have you reviewed strategies for doing so on the http://kiteria.lordlegacy.com web-site yet? It is a MUST-SEE site for
anyone who plays LORD. Besides me, Michael Preslar, and Suzanne Franklin, few others have as extensive a knowledge of Lord tips and tricks.

Depending on which IGMs your LORD game is running, each one of a large number has various events that raise Charm. Of course, you also run the risk of losing Charm. But risk of LOSING something is the price you pay, other than BBS time usage, when you enter an IGM.

Get me a list of the IGMs your BBS Lord game has running and I'll give you some
instructions on how to use them to raise your Charm Points.

Also download my Lord Tips archive from my web-site and read over its text pages. http://www.fidotel.com/public/camelot/dgt-lord.zip . Donald

BTW, pretty much everything on the Kiteria's Korner site is fully applicable to
LORD for Windows, LORD for OS/2, and LORD for Linux.


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I think the charm bug is really a combination of too many ugly stick

events, >*NO* pretty stick events (absolutely none), and very few "take the old man bac > to the inn" events.

That can can have a devastating effect on your Charm Points for sure. Have you
tried asking your sysop to disable the Ugly Stick from occurring? If he does not know how to do it, have him contact me or Michael Preslar.

Michael can be reached here in this echo, in DoorGames echo, via email at mike@lordlegacy.com, and via other methods listed on his web-site at http:///www.michaelpreslar.com/. People can reach me in the same echoes, and via email at ktidmore@bellsouth.net.

This BBS is running version "4.07 in the works", and in several years

and with > the help of the JENNIE code as often as possible, I've never had more than 20 > or so charm. I think I'm down to about 10 at the moment.

You need to tell your sysop that its time for him to upgrade to the official release of LORD v4.07. It was distributed on June 07, 2006, and be obtained at
the http://www.lordlegacy.com web-site. You can also tell him that LORD v4.08 is now in beta. He can learn how to get it by contacting Michael Preslar via email or Fidonet echo mail.

Regarding increasing your Charm Points, have you reviewed strategies for doing so on the http://kiteria.lordlegacy.com web-site yet? It is a MUST-SEE site for
anyone who plays LORD. Besides me, Michael Preslar, and Suzanne Franklin, few others have as extensive a knowledge of Lord tips and tricks.

Depending on which IGMs your LORD game is running, each one of a large number has various events that raise Charm. Of course, you also run the risk of losing Charm. But risk of LOSING something is the price you pay, other than BBS time usage, when you enter an IGM.

Get me a list of the IGMs your BBS Lord game has running and I'll give you some
instructions on how to use them to raise your Charm Points.

Also download my Lord Tips archive from my web-site and read over its text pages. http://www.fidotel.com/public/camelot/dgt-lord.zip . Donald

BTW, pretty much everything on the Kiteria's Korner site is fully applicable to
LORD for Windows, LORD for OS/2, and LORD for Linux.


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Hello Donald.

29 Sep 06 19:09, you wrote to D-WARZ:

BTW, pretty much everything on the Kiteria's Korner site is fully applicable to LORD for Windows, LORD for OS/2, and LORD for Linux.

LORD for Linux? :-)

Russell

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Russell Tiedt wrote in a message to Donald Tidmore:

LORD for Linux? :-)

Yep. The beta is working. Talk to Michael about obtaining it.

Speaking of talking to Michael: I need to talk to him about problems with the OS/2 version...

Later,
Sean

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BTW, what is Jahmas stand for? Is it a name or a nickname?
Donald

hehehe. Jahmas is an old nick I've had for quite a few years now. It's like an acronym and a pun. I am a nurse and one day I went to give this geriatric patient some medication. I was wearing scrubs and she asked me if "I was wearing my pajamas?" Well it stuck as she kept asking for that "Jamas guy". Since my name is James A. Haight, I started using it in the old days when IRC started taking off in the early to mid 90s. I still use it today. BTW, I've noticed the charm issue with DOS versions 4.06 and 4.07 that I play on other peoples boards. The LORD game on Frank Reid's board, Eagles Dare does it. I've always wondered about this. Incidentally I run the last version programmed by Seth on my board as well as 4.07. Seth's runs much faster for me.

jah

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JAHMAS wrote in a message to Donald Tidmore:

last version programmed by Seth on my board as well as 4.07. Seth's
runs much faster for me.

It "runs" faster because of something Michael did to port the door to different
platforms. That problem you speak of is now fixed in the 4.08 beta and the new
one (DOS) runs faster than the old versions. :)

For those who are interested: Michael is not using blockwrites to write screens
and strings, he's doing them by character now so that will speed up things a LOT.

Later,
Sean

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BTW, what is Jahmas stand for? Is it a name or a nickname?
Donald

hehehe. Jahmas is an old nick I've had for quite a few years now. It's like an
acronym and a pun. I am a nurse and one day I went to give this geriatric patient some medication. I was wearing scrubs and she asked me if "I was wearing my pajamas?" Well it stuck as she kept asking for that "Jamas guy".

Well at least you always knew that your patients would remember you if they thought about their pajamas <G>. That's a great story.

BTW, I've noticed the charm issue with DOS versions 4.06 and 4.07 that
I play on other >peoples boards. The LORD game on Frank Reid's board, Eagles Dare does it. I've always wondered about this.

Some sysops may not realize that they can EDIT those LORD lady scripts for their own use, if they or their BBS LORD players don't like the way they work.
They can edit UGLY.LDY so that it is more likely to run the "Good Charm" routine event. They can just change the &N3 variable to something like 2, and it won't hurt anyone's LORD game much.

There's more ways in LORD itself and in some igms for players to always LOSE charm points, so every little bit helps the end user if you do stuff like that.
Biggest pain there is as to Charm Loss though is the Divorces. Only solution to that one is to NOT get married <G>.

Incidentally I run the last version programmed by > Seth on my board
as well as 4.07. Seth's runs much faster for me. > jah

Have you ever checked to see how much of your system's CPU the game monopolizes? If everything on the system acts like it is going through quicksand when you try to do anything besides run LORD, then perhaps that's incentive enough to update to LORD v4.07. Its been optimized to run faster, and to use less of the CPU cycles.

There's always advantages and disadvantages to upgrading to a new version of any door game. One just has to evaluate them all and then make a decision as to what to do. Donald.

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BTW, what is Jahmas stand for? Is it a name or a nickname?
Donald

hehehe. Jahmas is an old nick I've had for quite a few years now. It's like an
acronym and a pun. I am a nurse and one day I went to give this geriatric patient some medication. I was wearing scrubs and she asked me if "I was wearing my pajamas?" Well it stuck as she kept asking for that "Jamas guy".

Well at least you always knew that your patients would remember you if they thought about their pajamas <G>. That's a great story.

BTW, I've noticed the charm issue with DOS versions 4.06 and 4.07 that
I play on other >peoples boards. The LORD game on Frank Reid's board, Eagles Dare does it. I've always wondered about this.

Some sysops may not realize that they can EDIT those LORD lady scripts for their own use, if they or their BBS LORD players don't like the way they work.
They can edit UGLY.LDY so that it is more likely to run the "Good Charm" routine event. They can just change the &N3 variable to something like 2, and it won't hurt anyone's LORD game much.

There's more ways in LORD itself and in some igms for players to always LOSE charm points, so every little bit helps the end user if you do stuff like that.
Biggest pain there is as to Charm Loss though is the Divorces. Only solution to that one is to NOT get married <G>.

Incidentally I run the last version programmed by > Seth on my board
as well as 4.07. Seth's runs much faster for me. > jah

Have you ever checked to see how much of your system's CPU the game monopolizes? If everything on the system acts like it is going through quicksand when you try to do anything besides run LORD, then perhaps that's incentive enough to update to LORD v4.07. Its been optimized to run faster, and to use less of the CPU cycles.

There's always advantages and disadvantages to upgrading to a new version of any door game. One just has to evaluate them all and then make a decision as to what to do. Donald.

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Re: Charm
By: Russell Tiedt to Donald Tidmore on Sat Sep 30 2006 07:32 pm

BTW, pretty much everything on the Kiteria's Korner site is fully applicable to LORD for Windows, LORD for OS/2, and LORD for Linux.

LORD for Linux? :-)

Send an email to files@lordlegacy.com with a subject of "send me lordx" (without quotes) and itll be emailed back to you in an hours time or so (my auto-responder runs ocne an hour)

Note that the lordx beta uses the new registration codes, so if youre registered and dont have codes that work with 4.07, youll need to email gameport (support@gameport.com) and ask for 4.07 codes (giving them your registered sysop name and bbs name)

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Re: Charm
By: Sean Dennis to Russell Tiedt on Sat Sep 30 2006 10:59 pm

Speaking of talking to Michael: I need to talk to him about problems with th OS/2 version...

Been on Trillian most of the weekend (I think)..

Ive got a pinched nerve in my neck.. Soo.. Very sore shoulder, my arm goes
numb and tingly, and the doc has me on super strong pain killers..

Soo.. When you go get ahold of me.. If Im in an awesome mood: I just took my painkillers.. If Im in a bad mood: Im hurting like hell. :)

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Re: Charm
By: Sean Dennis to JAHMAS on Sun Oct 01 2006 12:23 pm

JAHMAS wrote in a message to Donald Tidmore:

last version programmed by Seth on my board as well as 4.07. Seth's
runs much faster for me.

It "runs" faster because of something Michael did to port the door to differ platforms. That problem you speak of is now fixed in the 4.08 beta and the one (DOS) runs faster than the old versions. :)

One on hand, Seth's old versions use 100% of the cpu, so people think
"faster" since the old versions hog the computer..

4.06 and better (especially 4.07) properlly give up time slices, so that Lord doesn't bog down the machine. Upside part 1: Your CPU isnt pegged when Lord
is running. Upside part 2: More instances of Lord can be run at one time (as well as instances of other doors) Downside: Lord can seem a bit sluggish,
since people are used to a misbehaving software :)

For those who are interested: Michael is not using blockwrites to write scre and strings, he's doing them by character now so that will speed up things a LOT.

That should be "Michael IS using blockwrites instead of character by
character"

On fossil setups, this helps _tons_.. On "non fossil" setups, its all still sent char by char (since non-fossil setups dont have a send_string function)

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Michael Preslar wrote in a message to Sean Dennis:

Been on Trillian most of the weekend (I think)..

I've been really busy with other things. I'll have to catch you later this week.

Soo.. When you go get ahold of me.. If Im in an awesome mood: I
just took my painkillers.. If Im in a bad mood: Im hurting like
hell. :)

I understand completely. I'm about to go give a pint or so of blood amongst other things for a massive battery of blood tests. I hope I'll be able to work
and then go to school today. Busy busy. :P

Later,
Sean

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Michael Preslar wrote in a message to Sean Dennis:

On fossil setups, this helps _tons_.. On "non fossil" setups, its
all still sent char by char (since non-fossil setups dont have a send_string function)

I thought it was the other way around for some reason because I remember you were talking about switching from blockreads to char reads...I get things mixed
up every so often. :)

Later,
Sean

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There's always advantages and disadvantages to upgrading to a new version of >any door game. One just has to evaluate them all and then make a decision as >to what to do. Donald.

I have 4.07 which runs slow and 3.55 patched which runs blisteringly fast!

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There's always advantages and disadvantages to upgrading to a new version of >>any door game. One just has to evaluate them all and then make a decision as >> to what to do. Donald.

I have 4.07 which runs slow and 3.55 patched which runs blisteringly fast!

Be sure that you understand the situation with DOS programs. Pretty much all of them are (or were) written for systems that primarily ran MS-DOS, where it was a "given" that the one program had total access/use of the CPU. But any program like LORD v3.55 that runs on a multi-tasking system that runs MS Windows XP, for example, will hog the cpu. As Michael Preslar has stated in messages this week to Sean Dennis, all of Seth's versions of LORD use 100% of the CPU. So that's why it runs fast. But if you tried to do anything else, such as use an Windows-based email program, it would be very slow to respond to
anything you do.

Starting with LORD v4.06, Michael optimized LORD to behave itself and NOT monopolize the user's CPU. That was further refined in LORD v4.07, which was released on my Birthday on June 07th.

The question you have to ask yourself is this: Do you want to use ONE single program (LORD) and have it run fast? If so, then you already have a situation you like to use. If not, you are like the majority of us. We expect and need our computer to do lots of stuff simultaneously. Use web browser, use email program, run Microsoft Word for Windows, and so on. Perhaps you have Solitaire running. But any DOS program you run, such as LORD, unless it is v4.06, v4.07,
or v4.08 beta, will slow everything down to a crawl because of its attempt to monopolize the CPU.

If you still have questions on this subject, ask Michael Preslar to discuss it further either here in Fidonet Lord echo, in Fidonet netmail, or via his email (mike at lordlegacy.com).

Personally, I *HATED* to work on LORD programming projects for the first two-three years in either Windows ME or Windows XP because everything I did was
slowed down by LORD hogging the cpu. I'm used to having three DOS windows open
at once, the email program running sometimes, the web browser (Firefox usually), Borland Pascal for Windows, Solitaire - and if LORD is running, unless its 4.07/4.08 beta, things get glacially slow.

Its very hard to run LORD (which one has to do to test changes in your igms as you work on them), BPW, and other stuff, and get much accomplished if you do that sort of situation using LORD v3.55 or any other version of LORD through 4.05pb. I know that is a fact from personal experience.

One just has to decide whether you are going to single-task on a computer or multi-task. If you want to multi-task, its best if ALL of the programs you are
running will behave themself and not hog the CPU. Some early versions of Mozilla Firefox have that problem, and that also can drive one nuts at times. Not sure if Firefox v1.5.0.7 still does the cpu hogging.

Anyway, that's the situation with LORD being blistering fast in v3.55, and very
slow with v4.07. You just have to decide which situation you want - single-tasking or multi-tasking. The rest is up to you. Donald

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Donald Tidmore wrote in a message to JAHMAS:

Anyway, that's the situation with LORD being blistering fast in
v3.55, and very slow with v4.07. You just have to decide which
situation you want - single-tasking or multi-tasking. The rest is
up to you. Donald

There is a program called TameDOS (yes, the original TAME author) that is Windows-specific and it works very well. When I tried it, it tamed LORD down to 1% CPU usage. You can get it at http://www.tamedos.com (the guy who develops it lives just down the road from some family down in Georgia).

Later,
Sean

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Hello Michael.

02 Oct 06 21:49, you wrote to me:

LORD for Linux? :-)

Send an email to files@lordlegacy.com with a subject of "send me
lordx" (without quotes) and itll be emailed back to you in an hours
time or so (my auto-responder runs ocne an hour)

Thanks, have done so ...

Note that the lordx beta uses the new registration codes, so if youre registered and dont have codes that work with 4.07, youll need to
email gameport (support@gameport.com) and ask for 4.07 codes (giving
them your registered sysop name and bbs name)

Thanks, noted ....

Russell

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Re: Charm
By: JAHMAS to Donald Tidmore on Wed Oct 04 2006 08:04 am

There's always advantages and disadvantages to upgrading to a new version o >any door game. One just has to evaluate them all and then make a decision >to what to do. Donald.

I have 4.07 which runs slow and 3.55 patched which runs blisteringly fast!

Have you checked their CPU utilization?

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