• BBS software.

    From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to All on Thu Mar 1 13:27:00 2018
    Thought I might as well kick start this echo. What Linux based BBS software are people using? For myself, I have a Banana Pi running Raspian Wheezy, which has both Mystic and Synchronet installed (it has multiple IP addresses). Both packages are doing a fine job. It's a case of liking both and not being able to choose, so I kept them both. :) With multiple IP addresses and the right configuration, I am able to use standard ports for both packages.

    Only the Synchronet system (this one!) is currently on Fidonet. The Mystic system is currently a Fidonet point, and a node on some othernets.


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Langdon on Wed Feb 28 21:57:34 2018

    On 2018 Mar 01 13:27:00, you wrote to All:

    Thought I might as well kick start this echo.

    kick start? i've got posts from all the way back to June 2013 over here ;)

    What Linux based BBS software are people using?

    mystic and sbbs with mbse and bbbs in the queue to be studied...

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452.4 to Tony Langdon on Thu Mar 1 09:26:36 2018
    Quoting Tony Langdon to All <=-

    software are people using? For myself, I have a Banana Pi running

    MagickaBBS here. Love it.

    Shawn

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Thu Mar 1 20:20:00 2018
    mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-


    On 2018 Mar 01 13:27:00, you wrote to All:

    Thought I might as well kick start this echo.

    kick start? i've got posts from all the way back to June 2013 over here
    ;)

    I've mainly got moderator auto posts here. And having had to rebuild the BBS, I only have posts back to the start of the year. Mainly or all bot posts.

    What Linux based BBS software are people using?

    mystic and sbbs with mbse and bbbs in the queue to be studied...

    Cool, never played with MBSE or BBBS. WWIV and a couple of others are in my "to play with" list.


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Langdon on Thu Mar 1 06:55:28 2018

    On 2018 Mar 01 20:20:00, you wrote to me:

    mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Thought I might as well kick start this echo.

    kick start? i've got posts from all the way back to June 2013 over
    here ;)

    I've mainly got moderator auto posts here. And having had to rebuild
    the BBS, I only have posts back to the start of the year. Mainly or
    all bot posts.

    yeah, i didn't say what kind of posts ;)

    What Linux based BBS software are people using?

    mystic and sbbs with mbse and bbbs in the queue to be studied...

    Cool, never played with MBSE or BBBS. WWIV and a couple of others are
    in my "to play with" list.

    /me scribbles more notes

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Tony Langdon on Thu Mar 1 05:05:19 2018
    Re: BBS software.
    By: Tony Langdon to All on Thu Mar 01 2018 01:27 pm

    Thought I might as well kick start this echo. What Linux based BBS software are people using?

    Synchronet is what I'm running here but I also have a Magicka BBS installed. I rather like it. It's configured mainly with .ini files and has LUA for those who like to tinker with that sort of thing. There is an InterBBS Oneliners LUA script that reads and writes to a message base for it's oneliners in much the same way that Synchronet uses the SYNCDATA message base for the BBS list and match maker door.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Shawn Highfield on Fri Mar 2 06:30:00 2018
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Quoting Tony Langdon to All <=-

    software are people using? For myself, I have a Banana Pi running

    MagickaBBS here. Love it.

    Heard great things about it. One of the many on my "to try" list. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Fri Mar 2 06:31:00 2018
    mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    yeah, i didn't say what kind of posts ;)

    I was trying to improve the quality a little. :D

    What Linux based BBS software are people using?

    mystic and sbbs with mbse and bbbs in the queue to be studied...

    Cool, never played with MBSE or BBBS. WWIV and a couple of others are
    in my "to play with" list.

    /me scribbles more notes

    More candidates to play with? ;)


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Alan Ianson on Fri Mar 2 06:34:00 2018
    Alan Ianson wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Synchronet is what I'm running here but I also have a Magicka BBS installed. I rather like it. It's configured mainly with .ini files and

    I've heard a lot of good things, and it intrigues me. Maybe when I go into "winter mode", I might try installing MagickaBBS on my system, and set it up as a point off one of the main BBSs.

    has LUA for those who like to tinker with that sort of thing. There is
    an InterBBS Oneliners LUA script that reads and writes to a message
    base for it's oneliners in much the same way that Synchronet uses the SYNCDATA message base for the BBS list and match maker door.

    I've been following that on FSXnet, some really good stuff happening. :)


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  • From Joacim Melin@2:201/120 to Tony Langdon on Fri Mar 2 08:12:01 2018
    Thought I might as well kick start this echo. What Linux based BBS software
    are people using? For myself, I have a Banana Pi running Raspian
    Wheezy, which
    has both Mystic and Synchronet installed (it has multiple IP
    addresses). Both
    packages are doing a fine job. It's a case of liking both and not
    being able
    to choose, so I kept them both. :) With multiple IP addresses and
    the right
    configuration, I am able to use standard ports for both packages.

    Only the Synchronet system (this one!) is currently on Fidonet. The Mystic
    system is currently a Fidonet point, and a node on some othernets.

    I run a swedish command based software called Sklaffkom, but I cheat a bit an run it on FreeBSD since it will not compile on Linux anymore and I'm no programmer so I can't figure out why. It used to run on Linux on a few swedish BBS:es back in the day but the changes done in the code to make it run on Linux back then are nowhere to be found.


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Joacim Melin on Mon Mar 5 19:09:00 2018
    Joacim Melin wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I run a swedish command based software called Sklaffkom, but I cheat a
    bit an run it on FreeBSD since it will not compile on Linux anymore and I'm no programmer so I can't figure out why. It used to run on Linux
    on a few swedish BBS:es back in the day but the changes done in the
    code to make it run on Linux back then are nowhere to be found.

    Guess that one didn't get out from Sweden, but FreeBSD, while not Linux still has a lot of similarities.


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  • From Joacim Melin@2:201/120 to Tony Langdon on Tue Mar 6 09:47:02 2018
    Joacim Melin wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I run a swedish command based software called Sklaffkom, but I cheat a
    bit an run it on FreeBSD since it will not compile on Linux anymore and
    I'm no programmer so I can't figure out why. It used to run on Linux
    on a few swedish BBS:es back in the day but the changes done in the
    code to make it run on Linux back then are nowhere to be found.

    Guess that one didn't get out from Sweden, but FreeBSD, while not
    Linux still
    has a lot of similarities.

    I don't know how common these command driven BBS systems are outside of Sweden.
    I vaguely recall Waffle being sort of command driven (ie: no menus what so ever) but that's the only one that I know of.

    Sklaffkom actually is developed to support both Swedish and English, as is also
    NiKom, another Swedish command based BBS system written for the Amiga.


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Joacim Melin on Wed Mar 7 17:21:00 2018
    Joacim Melin wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I don't know how common these command driven BBS systems are outside of Sweden. I vaguely recall Waffle being sort of command driven (ie: no
    menus what so ever) but that's the only one that I know of.

    Waffle was globally known. I did have a brief look at it many years ago, but never worked with it seriously.

    Sklaffkom actually is developed to support both Swedish and English, as
    is also NiKom, another Swedish command based BBS system written for the Amiga.

    I see. :)


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Joacim Melin on Wed Mar 7 09:23:48 2018

    On 2018 Mar 06 09:47:02, you wrote to Tony Langdon:

    I don't know how common these command driven BBS systems are outside
    of Sweden. I vaguely recall Waffle being sort of command driven (ie:
    no menus what so ever) but that's the only one that I know of.

    PCBoard was or could be command driven... RemoteAcces and others, too... just turn off "hotkeys" capability and users have to type in the whole option and then hit enter... some BBSes were easier to set up with a command structure than others, though... i think most folks prefer hotkeys because they were easier and faster for the users...

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Langdon on Wed Mar 7 09:28:00 2018

    On 2018 Mar 07 17:21:00, you wrote to Joacim Melin:

    I don't know how common these command driven BBS systems are outside
    of Sweden. I vaguely recall Waffle being sort of command driven (ie:
    no menus what so ever) but that's the only one that I know of.

    Waffle was globally known. I did have a brief look at it many years
    ago, but never worked with it seriously.

    we used it as a door from RemoteAccess to provide email and news capability... never did get it set to use account credentials from RA, though... you had to login to RA and then into Waffle... i don't remember if logging out of Waffle terminated the call or if we did get it to return to RA so the users could do more there...

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Thu Mar 8 07:42:00 2018
    mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    we used it as a door from RemoteAccess to provide email and news capability... never did get it set to use account credentials from RA,

    Interesting way to do it. I simply used GIGO to gate email and news to my downlinks.

    though... you had to login to RA and then into Waffle... i don't
    remember if logging out of Waffle terminated the call or if we did get
    it to return to RA so the users could do more there...

    It would have been possible to reeturn to RA, with the worst case being you may have to log in again. Because each phone call cost 25c (untimed), I added a "re-login" feature to my RA board, which simply exited with a unique errorlevel that caused the batch file to recycle and reload RA with the parameters of the current physical modem connection, so it would go back to the login prompt. Had to disable DTR on the modem, so it wouldn't drop carrier when the BBS recycled.

    Actually, that also survived a reboot, so I was able to make system level changes (very carefully!!!) using DOORWAY (loaded as a sysop level access door), reboot the system - I had a simple "reboot.com" that could do that, then when I saw the modem init string come up on my terminal, I'd emulate a modem, to get the BBS to respond, so I could log back in.

    reboot.com was very simple. It was a 5 byte file created in debug, and IIRC, the hex values in it were EA 00 00 FF FF, which corresponded to the 8086 instruction "JMP FFFF:0000" - the reboot vector for that processor.


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  • From Joacim Melin@2:201/120 to mark lewis on Wed Mar 7 22:37:05 2018
    Oh yeah - you can download the source code for Sklaffkom here: http://www.sklaffkom.se/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/s132.tar.gz


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Langdon on Wed Mar 7 22:33:06 2018

    On 2018 Mar 08 07:42:00, you wrote to me:

    we used it as a door from RemoteAccess to provide email and news
    capability... never did get it set to use account credentials from
    RA,

    Interesting way to do it. I simply used GIGO to gate email and news
    to my downlinks.

    GIGO didn't exist when i was doing this... in fact, FRED was one gate package i
    tried when i got tired of doing the waffle-as-a-door thing... FRED worked OK but when GIGO came out, it was so much easier... that was back in the dialup days with FXUUCP and its special UUCICO program... later on, when we finally got internet out here, we switched to it and then had to find the GIGOTCP package to get tools to do on TCP/IP what UUCP had been doing on dialup... granted, our internet was now dialup but we had TCP/IP and could run servers and do email stuffs easier...

    though... you had to login to RA and then into Waffle... i don't
    remember if logging out of Waffle terminated the call or if we did
    get it to return to RA so the users could do more there...

    It would have been possible to reeturn to RA, with the worst case being
    you
    may have to log in again.

    i didn't have that... i think one thing was waffle wanting to drop the "modem" connection when the user logged out... i forget what i did to get around that but it was not ignoring the DTR... when loggin out of waffle, in my setup, it did return to RA with no problems... i think we may have done the "relogon" thing around the same time... i recall having that because memory was pretty tight still and swapping out was ok for somethings but not others... so yeah, i
    think my waffle was an exit with an error level to the .bat to run waffle and then it would exit back with another errorlevel which i used to relogin to RA or to go on back to the mailer since the line was disconnected... that was quite some time back, man :)

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Thu Mar 8 15:42:00 2018
    mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    i didn't have that... i think one thing was waffle wanting to drop the "modem" connection when the user logged out... i forget what i did to
    get around that but it was not ignoring the DTR... when loggin out of

    I had to ignore DTR, because I wanted the modem to stay up during a reboot, which did drop DTR, and couldn't be changed.

    waffle, in my setup, it did return to RA with no problems... i think we may have done the "relogon" thing around the same time... i recall
    having that because memory was pretty tight still and swapping out was
    ok for somethings but not others... so yeah, i think my waffle was an
    exit with an error level to the .bat to run waffle and then it would
    exit back with another errorlevel which i used to relogin to RA or to
    go on back to the mailer since the line was disconnected... that was
    quite some time back, man :)

    RAM was always at a premium in those days, so yeah recycling the batch file had definite advantages. My setup could have incorporated Waffle or some other software that way, but I didn't go down that route.


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Thu Mar 8 16:03:00 2018
    mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    GIGO didn't exist when i was doing this... in fact, FRED was one gate package i tried when i got tired of doing the waffle-as-a-door thing... FRED worked OK but when GIGO came out, it was so much easier... that
    was back in the dialup days with FXUUCP and its special UUCICO
    program... later on, when we finally got internet out here, we switched

    Yes, I used the DOS UUCP stuff initially, and it worked quite well. GIGO was an awesome package, though it didn't have full multi zone capabilities. However, there were ways to acoieve that. I gated netmail to/from several FTNs, by using a package called NetMgr to rewrite the GIGO addresses so that the FTN users would see a virtual address in their zone, but GIGO would receive the netmails addressed to its Fidonet address. Echomail was only gated using Fidonet addresses to/from newsgroups and mailing lists.

    to it and then had to find the GIGOTCP package to get tools to do on TCP/IP what UUCP had been doing on dialup... granted, our internet was
    now dialup but we had TCP/IP and could run servers and do email stuffs easier...

    I had to do the same when my ISP stopped providing UUCP, and I had to switch providers, but was able to listen on SMTP over dialup. Luckily by then, I was running OS/2, so the TCP/IP tools were viable for me. I also found it possible to use an old version of MDaemon under Windows NT4 as a SMTP receiver. Its message storage format was largely compatible with GIGO, and only required minor massaging to make it work. I did release a set of tools to make this possible. I suspect the only copies in existence are on my old BBS backups. The copy I had on the web was lost with a change of ISP. :(


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  • From Phil Taylor@1:275/201 to Tony Langdon on Thu Sep 20 22:19:15 2018
    Tony Langdon wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    Alan Ianson wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I've been following that on FSXnet, some really good stuff happening.
    :)

    Question: Is FSXNet offers echo mail like Fidonet? How many echoes do they have? How can I join?

    Thanks
    Phil
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  • From Phil Taylor@1:275/201 to mark lewis on Thu Sep 20 22:19:15 2018
    mark lewis wrote to Joacim Melin <=-


    On 2018 Mar 06 09:47:02, you wrote to Tony Langdon:

    PCBoard was or could be command driven... RemoteAcces and others,

    Running Pcboard and Remote Access was in the good old days for me.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Phil Taylor on Fri Sep 21 15:18:00 2018
    On 09-20-18 22:19, Phil Taylor wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Tony Langdon wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    Alan Ianson wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I've been following that on FSXnet, some really good stuff happening.
    :)

    Question: Is FSXNet offers echo mail like Fidonet? How many echoes do
    they have? How can I join?

    To answer your questions:

    Yes
    7 echoes (6 for human consumption, 1 for machine - machine data). FSX is based on a minimalist model, where echoes are created only when considered necessary by the participants. This seems to work, it's a very active net.

    I think you'll find details in OTHERNETS, otherwise contact Paul Hayton of Agency BBS. He's probably already read your message anyway :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Phil Taylor on Fri Sep 21 15:25:00 2018
    On 09-20-18 22:19, Phil Taylor wrote to mark lewis <=-

    PCBoard was or could be command driven... RemoteAcces and others,

    Running Pcboard and Remote Access was in the good old days for me.

    Yeah, I ran RA back in the day. :)


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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Phil Taylor on Fri Sep 21 09:48:34 2018
    Hi Phil!

    20 Sep 2018 22:19, from Phil Taylor -> Tony Langdon:

    Question: Is FSXNet offers echo mail like Fidonet?
    Yes

    How many echoes do they have?
    Some ... like 5.
    But they are very active. (If you are interested in BBSes that is)

    How can I join?
    Contact Paul Hayton.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Phil Taylor on Fri Sep 21 01:24:41 2018
    Re: Re: BBS software.
    By: Phil Taylor to Tony Langdon on Thu Sep 20 2018 10:19 pm

    Question: Is FSXNet offers echo mail like Fidonet? How many echoes do they have? How can I join?

    Yes, it's an active network. The info pack can be found at..

    http://bbs.nz/fsxnet.zip

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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