Hey Red!

The upgrade to x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu on the EuroPoint looks great from this angle and required no duct tape ... yet. Here are the gory details that matter;

/lib/libc.so.6:
GNU C Library (GNU libc) development release version 2.34.9000.
Copyright (C) 2021 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Compiled by GNU CC version 11.2.0.
libc ABIs: UNIQUE IFUNC ABSOLUTE
For bug reporting instructions, please see:
<https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/bugs.html>.

Note it is a development version and not a release. However glibc-2.35 is only a month away and, as I predicted to Benny, glibc-2.34 ended up being skipped over. In the meantime this partition will probably be the default root/boot system until then unless something ugly reveals itself. I still have the previous partition in reserve. :-)

Life is good,
Maurice

... Gæð a wyrd swa hio scel.
Fate ever goes as it must.
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Hello Maurice!

02 Jan 2022 22:16, Maurice Kinal wrote to Red Green:

Note it is a development version and not a release. However
glibc-2.35 is only a month away and, as I predicted to Benny,
glibc-2.34 ended up being skipped over. In the meantime this
partition will probably be the default root/boot system until then
unless something ugly reveals itself. I still have the previous partition in reserve. :-)

2.34 is unstable in gentoo, 2.35 is not in gentoo yet

so i am still at 2.33 stable

it will come kernel 5.16.x with gpu optimizing before 2023 :=)

no hope for fb0 keep showing pengiuns yet

but atleast amdgpu is optimized in 5.16


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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Hey Benny!

2.34 is unstable in gentoo, 2.35 is not in gentoo yet

I believe 2.34 is unstable, and 2.35 doesn't exist yet.

so i am still at 2.33 stable

Understood. I am in the same situation ... up to now that is. The EuroPoint doesn't require graphics or even a monitor. Also it uses i915 and is lowpower so no need for anything other than server type apps.

it will come kernel 5.16.x with gpu optimizing before 2023 :=)

I am betting 5.18.x will be when this branch comes together.

no hope for fb0 keep showing pengiuns yet

We'll get there I am sure.

but atleast amdgpu is optimized in 5.16

I haven't tried it yet. As of this boot;

cat /proc/version:
Linux version 5.15.12 (root@heatsink) (gcc (GCC) 11.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.37) #1 SMP Sun Jan 2 17:05:58 UTC 2022

Note that heatsink is the hostname where the EuroPoint resides.

Life is good,
Maurice

... Wa bið þam þe sceal of langoþe leofes abidan.
Woe it is for the one who must wait in longing for the beloved.
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Hello Maurice!

03 Jan 2022 00:50, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

2.34 is unstable in gentoo, 2.35 is not in gentoo yet

I believe 2.34 is unstable, and 2.35 doesn't exist yet.

glibc 9999 exists in gentoo :=) (fun intended here)

so i am still at 2.33 stable

Understood. I am in the same situation ... up to now that is. The EuroPoint doesn't require graphics or even a monitor. Also it uses
i915 and is lowpower so no need for anything other than server type
apps.

currently gentoo cleanup glibc dependice and need for glibc api, its either now you build all with glibc or not, note glib is another story :=)

it will come kernel 5.16.x with gpu optimizing before 2023 :=)

I am betting 5.18.x will be when this branch comes together.

is not on kernel.org yet ?

no hope for fb0 keep showing pengiuns yet

We'll get there I am sure.

amiga had it for years :)

but atleast amdgpu is optimized in 5.16

I haven't tried it yet. As of this boot;

cat /proc/version:
Linux version 5.15.12 (root@heatsink) (gcc (GCC) 11.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.37) #1 SMP Sun Jan 2 17:05:58 UTC 2022

Linux version 5.15.12-gentoo-dist (root@6f5985f2df7a) (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc (Gentoo 10.3.0 p1) 10.3.0, GNU ld (Gentoo 2.35.2 p1) 2.35.2) #1 SMP Wed Dec 29 14:49:17 -00 2021

Note that heatsink is the hostname where the EuroPoint resides.

note possible brokken timezone in gentoo :/


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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* Origin: gopher://fido.junc.eu/ (2:230/0)

Hey Benny!

currently gentoo cleanup glibc dependice and need for glibc api,
its either now you build all with glibc or not

That sounds more Debian-ish to me. Myself I am sticking with glibc.

note glib is another story :=)

Don't get me started on that. I'll pretend I didn't see this. Besides you need glib for mc.

is not on kernel.org yet ?

As of this writing I see 5.16-rc8 which is a release candidate if I am not mistaken. The latest release is 5.15.12.

Wed Dec 29 14:49:17 -00 2021
note possible brokken timezone in gentoo :/

It's okay, other than by convention which has UTC as +00, but the above is acceptable.

TZ=UTC date --rfc-3339=sec --date="Wed Dec 29 14:49:17 -00 2021"
2021-12-29 14:49:17+00:00

I believe the above is MUCH better output and note the '+' character in the tz. Anyhow the above demonstrates that gentoo's timezone is fine.

Life is good,
Maurice

... Wyrd oft nereð unfægne eorl þonne his ellen deah.
Fate often saves an undoomed man, when his courage is good.
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Hello Maurice!

04 Jan 2022 05:37, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

currently gentoo cleanup glibc dependice and need for glibc api,
its either now you build all with glibc or not

That sounds more Debian-ish to me. Myself I am sticking with glibc.

+1

note glib is another story :=)

Don't get me started on that. I'll pretend I didn't see this.
Besides you need glib for mc.

is changed on gentoo to not imho be supported in the use flags atleast

is not on kernel.org yet ?

As of this writing I see 5.16-rc8 which is a release candidate if I am not mistaken. The latest release is 5.15.12.

now .13

Wed Dec 29 14:49:17 -00 2021
note possible brokken timezone in gentoo :/

It's okay, other than by convention which has UTC as +00, but the
above is acceptable.

it is mostly 0000 for utc adjust, its not know always if its timezone or adjust to utc

TZ=UTC date --rfc-3339=sec --date="Wed Dec 29 14:49:17 -00 2021"
2021-12-29 14:49:17+00:00

+1

I believe the above is MUCH better output and note the '+' character
in the tz. Anyhow the above demonstrates that gentoo's timezone is
fine.

hopefully Wilfred will know now :=)


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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Hey Benny!

Besides you need glib for mc.

is changed on gentoo to not imho be supported in the use flags
atleast

Huh? I am still seeing glib as a REQUIRED dependency for mc. What source are they using?

it is mostly 0000 for utc adjust, its not know always if its
timezone or adjust to utc

TZ=UTC date +%z | tr -d +
0000

is probably what he is looking for. That is the defective castrated fidonet version. Myself I am using;

TZ=UTC+00:01:00 date +%z | tr -d +
-0001

which is 1 minute west of prime meridian and doesn't suffer from the lossy '+' character fidonet crap. UTC offsets (%z) only output hh:mm whereas the TZ above is capable of hh:mm:ss which make it vastly more powerful than a castrated utc offset ... to say the least. Offhand I'm thinking about using it as part of a coordinate system for a "Fidonet Time Space Continuum" now that the FTSC has become defunct. Why waste a perfectly good echoarea? I think it could be recycled. :-)

Life is good,
Maurice

... ðy mara wisdom on londe wære ðy we ma geðeoda cuðon.
There would be more wisdom in the land, the more languages we knew.
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