• Da Di Dit Dit - Rulz

    From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu May 25 23:26:15 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    Last Elist Rules Update: May 7, 1999
    This version 1.0.3 edited : May 7, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | new since last revision
    |C () changed since last revision
    |D () summary of deleted material

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. CB radio is not a tabu here,
    but I also moderate the CB_RADIO conference and would prefer that
    any discussion about CB be taken there.

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    |C 4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    |C Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    |C message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    |C mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    |C you are specifically replying to them.

    | 4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    | This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    | other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    | and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    | I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    | access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    | internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    | netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Jun 1 23:27:05 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    Last Elist Rules Update: May 7, 1999
    This version 1.0.3 edited : May 7, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | new since last revision
    |C () changed since last revision
    |D () summary of deleted material

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. CB radio is not a tabu here,
    but I also moderate the CB_RADIO conference and would prefer that
    any discussion about CB be taken there.

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    |C 4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    |C Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    |C message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    |C mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    |C you are specifically replying to them.

    | 4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    | This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    | other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    | and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    | I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    | access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    | internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    | netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu May 18 23:31:06 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    Last Elist Rules Update: May 7, 1999
    This version 1.0.3 edited : May 7, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | new since last revision
    |C () changed since last revision
    |D () summary of deleted material

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. CB radio is not a tabu here,
    but I also moderate the CB_RADIO conference and would prefer that
    any discussion about CB be taken there.

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    |C 4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    |C Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    |C message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    |C mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    |C you are specifically replying to them.

    | 4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    | This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    | other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    | and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    | I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    | access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    | internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    | netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Tue Jun 20 10:41:53 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    Last Elist Rules Update: May 7, 1999
    This version 1.0.3 edited : May 7, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | new since last revision
    |C () changed since last revision
    |D () summary of deleted material

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. CB radio is not a tabu here,
    but I also moderate the CB_RADIO conference and would prefer that
    any discussion about CB be taken there.

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    |C 4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    |C Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    |C message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    |C mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    |C you are specifically replying to them.

    | 4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    | This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    | other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    | and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    | I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    | access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    | internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    | netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Fri Jun 23 23:16:49 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    Last Elist Rules Update: May 7, 1999
    This version 1.0.3 edited : May 7, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | new since last revision
    |C () changed since last revision
    |D () summary of deleted material

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. CB radio is not a tabu here,
    but I also moderate the CB_RADIO conference and would prefer that
    any discussion about CB be taken there.

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    |C 4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    |C Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    |C message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    |C mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    |C you are specifically replying to them.

    | 4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    | This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    | other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    | and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    | I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    | access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    | internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    | netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Jun 29 23:25:16 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    Last Elist Rules Update: May 7, 1999
    This version 1.0.3 edited : May 7, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | new since last revision
    |C () changed since last revision
    |D () summary of deleted material

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. CB radio is not a tabu here,
    but I also moderate the CB_RADIO conference and would prefer that
    any discussion about CB be taken there.

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    |C 4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    |C Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    |C message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    |C mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    |C you are specifically replying to them.

    | 4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    | This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    | other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    | and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    | I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    | access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    | internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    | netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Fri Jul 7 10:33:13 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    Last Elist Rules Update: May 7, 1999
    This version 1.0.3 edited : May 7, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | new since last revision
    |C () changed since last revision
    |D () summary of deleted material

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. CB radio is not a tabu here,
    but I also moderate the CB_RADIO conference and would prefer that
    any discussion about CB be taken there.

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    |C 4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    |C Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    |C message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    |C mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    |C you are specifically replying to them.

    | 4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    | This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    | other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    | and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    | I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    | access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    | internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    | netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Fri Jul 14 09:13:51 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    Last Elist Rules Update: May 7, 1999
    This version 1.0.3 edited : May 7, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | new since last revision
    |C () changed since last revision
    |D () summary of deleted material

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. CB radio is not a tabu here,
    but I also moderate the CB_RADIO conference and would prefer that
    any discussion about CB be taken there.

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    |C 4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    |C Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    |C message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    |C mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    |C you are specifically replying to them.

    | 4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    | This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    | other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    | and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    | I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    | access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    | internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    | netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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  • From STAN PHILLIPS@2:252/171 to MODERATOR on Sat Jul 15 14:58:00 2000
    Hi there,

    M > HAM Conference Guide Lines
    M > --------------------------


    I have just joined The British FONIX BBS via internet and I
    added this SIG hoping to see some activity. Apart from propogation
    forcasts I have not seen much activity here for the week I have been here.

    Is it holiday time or is it usually this quiet?

    73 Stan VE3 ILU



    * They do not love that do not show their love.
    ---
    ■ RoseReader 2.52ß P003387
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  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to STAN PHILLIPS on Mon Jul 17 13:42:38 2000
    Hello STAN.

    15 Jul 00 21:58, you wrote to MODERATOR:

    Hi there,

    M >> HAM Conference Guide Lines
    M >> --------------------------


    I have just joined The British FONIX BBS via internet and I
    added this SIG hoping to see some activity.

    Most of the activity died down right after the beginning of y2k. Almost
    all of Fidonet is that way accept for a few echos. At least it's that way
    in Zone 1. I hear that the russians are quite active in Zone 2, however.

    Apart from propogation forcasts I have not seen much activity here
    for the week I have been here.

    We have a HAM in South Africa who posts the South African version of North America's Newsline. I've been working on bringing the Newline report back
    into this echo, just not enough time to do everything.


    ... HAM (n) 2. Acronym for Hasn't Any Money.
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    * Origin: KB6PI's Cantina * Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Jul 20 23:30:13 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    Last Elist Rules Update: May 7, 1999
    This version 1.0.3 edited : May 7, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | new since last revision
    |C () changed since last revision
    |D () summary of deleted material

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. CB radio is not a tabu here,
    but I also moderate the CB_RADIO conference and would prefer that
    any discussion about CB be taken there.

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    |C 4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    |C Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    |C message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    |C mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    |C you are specifically replying to them.

    | 4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    | This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    | other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    | and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    | I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    | access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    | internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    | netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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  • From STAN PHILLIPS@2:252/171 to ROY WITT on Sat Jul 22 09:36:00 2000
    Hi Roy,

    Most of the activity died down right after the beginning of y2k.

    In other words, the SIGs is becoming like Y2K, a 'non-event'!!

    We have a HAM in South Africa who posts the South African version of North America's Newsline. I've been working on bringing the Newline report back into this echo, just not enough time to do everything.


    Too true. When I retired, I thought I would have lots of time,
    however it did not happen that way!!! :-)

    73, Stan



    ... HAM (n) 2. Acronym for Hasn't Any Money.

    OR: A boat is a hole in the water that you pour money into !!!









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    * **FLASH** Eveready Bunny arrested, charged with battery.
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    ■ RoseReader 2.52ß P003387
    * Origin: FONiX Info Systems * Berkshire UK * +44 1344 641625 (2:252/171)
  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to STAN PHILLIPS on Thu Jul 27 12:06:53 2000
    Hello STAN.

    22 Jul 00 16:36, you wrote to me:

    Most of the activity died down right after the beginning of y2k.

    In other words, the SIGs is becoming like Y2K, a 'non-event'!!

    Yeup...most of the activity I see is in admin echos.

    We have a HAM in South Africa who posts the South African version of
    North America's Newsline. I've been working on bringing the Newline
    report back into this echo, just not enough time to do everything.

    Too true. When I retired, I thought I would have lots of time,
    however it did not happen that way!!! :-)

    Hmmmm. That's what my dad said after he retired. Guess I might as well continue working...



    ... Last week she said it was either her or the radio. <over>!
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    * Origin: KB6PI's Cantina * Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Jul 27 23:24:27 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    Last Elist Rules Update: May 7, 1999
    This version 1.0.3 edited : May 7, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | new since last revision
    |C () changed since last revision
    |D () summary of deleted material

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. CB radio is not a tabu here,
    but I also moderate the CB_RADIO conference and would prefer that
    any discussion about CB be taken there.

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    |C 4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    |C Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    |C message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    |C mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    |C you are specifically replying to them.

    | 4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    | This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    | other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    | and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    | I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    | access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    | internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    | netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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  • From STAN PHILLIPS@2:252/171 to ROY WITT on Sat Jul 29 03:30:00 2000
    Hi Roy,

    Too true. When I retired, I thought I would have lots of time, however it did not happen that way!!! :-)

    Hmmmm. That's what my dad said after he retired. Guess I might as well continue working...

    Why? Even though the time is full, there is a big difference. If
    the weather is nasty, (too hot, too much snow etc.) I can stay at
    home for the day. Time is filled with doing the things that "I" want
    to do instead of what "OTHERS" want me to do.

    All the best.

    Stan

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  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to STAN PHILLIPS on Sun Jul 30 01:14:22 2000
    Hello STAN.

    29 Jul 00 10:30, you wrote to me:

    Too true. When I retired, I thought I would have lots of
    time, however it did not happen that way!!! :-)

    Hmmmm. That's what my dad said after he retired. Guess I might as
    well continue working...

    Why? Even though the time is full, there is a big difference.

    I retired out of my own machine shop back at the end of Dec, 1997. I sat around, played with computers (fidonet & the internet), worked on projects around the house and fixed one of my old cars (1970 muscle car) so it was driveable. Long about September, I was getting bored and decided I needed something to do. I went out and found a job. It's now 1 1/2 years later
    and I like going to work and doing what I do best.

    If the weather is nasty, (too hot, too much snow etc.) I can stay at
    home for the day. Time is filled with doing the things that "I" want
    to do instead of what "OTHERS" want me to do.

    I had days where I didn't even bother to get dressed.


    ... OSCAR birds don't have feathers!
    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Kissed By 6 Pretty Indians (1:10/22)
  • From STAN PHILLIPS@2:252/171 to ROY WITT on Mon Jul 31 09:28:00 2000
    Hi Roy,

    well continue working...

    Why? Even though the time is full, there is a big difference.

    I retired out of my own machine shop back at the end of Dec, 1997. I sat around, played with computers (fidonet & the internet), worked on projects around the house and fixed one of my old cars (1970 muscle car) so it was driveable. Long about September, I was getting bored and decided I needed something to do. I went out and found a job. It's now 1 1/2 years later and I like going to work and doing what I do best.

    There is still the difference that you are not 'forced' to work for a
    living. You can pack it up any time you wish and you like doing the work.

    If the weather is nasty, (too hot, too much snow etc.) I can stay at home for the day. Time is filled with doing the things that "I" want to do instead of what "OTHERS" want me to do.

    I had days where I didn't even bother to get dressed.

    Hm..... In my case, It is advisable, as from time to time we do get
    visitors!!

    ... OSCAR birds don't have feathers!

    However there are those trying to rustle the feathers of the Ham's
    who use them, by trying to take over their frequencies!!!!!

    73 Stan

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  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Aug 3 15:37:45 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    Last Elist Rules Update: May 7, 1999
    This version 1.0.3 edited : May 7, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | new since last revision
    |C () changed since last revision
    |D () summary of deleted material

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. CB radio is not a tabu here,
    but I also moderate the CB_RADIO conference and would prefer that
    any discussion about CB be taken there.

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    |C 4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    |C Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    |C message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    |C mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    |C you are specifically replying to them.

    | 4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    | This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    | other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    | and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    | I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    | access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    | internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    | netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to STAN PHILLIPS on Sun Aug 6 01:40:39 2000
    Hello STAN.

    31 Jul 00 16:28, you wrote to me:

    found a job. It's now 1 1/2 years later and I like going to work
    and doing what I do best.

    There is still the difference that you are not 'forced' to work for a living. You can pack it up any time you wish and you like doing the
    work.

    The cost of living in California requires that one work, even though
    retired. The latest problem, besides the high taxes, fuel costs and
    housing is the 300% increase in electricity, caused by the de-regulation
    of the energy producers. I've been seriously thinking of selling my
    house, packing it up and moving to Florida...

    If the weather is nasty, (too hot, too much snow etc.) I can
    stay at home for the day. Time is filled with doing the things
    that "I" want to do instead of what "OTHERS" want me to do.

    I had days where I didn't even bother to get dressed.

    Hm..... In my case, It is advisable, as from time to time we do get
    visitors!!

    On those days, I too got dressed.

    ... OSCAR birds don't have feathers!

    However there are those trying to rustle the feathers of the Ham's
    who use them, by trying to take over their frequencies!!!!!

    I hadn't heard. Is that a European problem?



    ... HAM (n) 1. A breakfast side dish.
    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Kissed By 6 Pretty Indians (1:10/22)
  • From STAN PHILLIPS@2:252/171 to MODERATOR on Sat Aug 5 15:49:00 2000
    Hi there,

    M > No-Code vs Code is a viable topic for discussion here.

    From what I have been reading (and hearing), the debate is not really
    about 'code' as such. It is about having a test that will keep people
    who are not really interested in Ham radio out. I.E. as a 'filter'.

    For example, many comments about the new code speed (U.S.A.) from
    those who have qualified with high speed code, are about the
    'standards being lowered and fear of 'C.B. type behaviour' creeping
    in to H.F. operation. If it was really about 'code' then the
    comments would be more about a possible reduction of people available
    to communicate in 'high speed code'.

    The reality is that standards can be made higher at the technical
    written exam level, and to have their 'on-air performance' monitored
    and a qualified 'monitor' certify that they meet standards of operation.
    This, together with the FCC going after those who do not behave
    themselves on the air, should work towards 'clean air waves'.


    Coming back to "Code", Personally, I think that code SHOULD be still
    be required. IMHO, the code should be memorised. This is no different
    from learning the rules and regs or Ohms law for that matter. speed
    is NOT the important thing, ability to communicate using it is.
    It allows communication using the simplest transmitters/receivers.
    For example, a few years ago at Dayton, a wife waiting in the car
    started calling her husband using the car horn. As another example,
    a semi-paralysed patient in the Emerg was annoying the nurses by
    'rattling a spoon'. A local HAM visiting the hospital recognised that
    it was an attempt to talk in code. He got the attention of the nurses
    and told them what the patient was trying to say. This, and many
    similar cases has resulted in an organized effort to teach code to
    paralysed people as they often have some part of the body that can be
    moved under control.

    CB radio is not a tabu here, but I also moderate the CB_RADIO conference

    Very good. It is a LONG time since I have used CB, however there are
    some local 'senior citizens' who have a 'CB' chat in the mornings. As
    I am now a 'senior citizen' perhaps I should get one and join in now
    and again. (will need a vertical antenna for 28 Megs!!!!)


    What is the full name of the conference?

    73 Stan VE3 ILU


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  • From TOM WALKER@1:202/801 to STAN PHILLIPS on Mon Aug 7 23:44:48 2000
    M > No-Code vs Code is a viable topic for discussion here.

    From what I have been reading (and hearing), the debate is not really
    about 'code' as such. It is about having a test that will keep people
    who are not really interested in Ham radio out. I.E. as a 'filter'.

    For example, many comments about the new code speed (U.S.A.) from
    those who have qualified with high speed code, are about the
    'standards being lowered and fear of 'C.B. type behaviour' creeping
    in to H.F. operation. If it was really about 'code' then the
    comments would be more about a possible reduction of people available
    to communicate in 'high speed code'.

    Well a little listening on some of the HF bands to Those 13 & 20 WPM
    types Soundly Disproves that one. The "CB Mentality" is Alive and Well
    amongst the Generals, Advanced and Extra Types.

    The reality is that standards can be made higher at the technical
    written exam level, and to have their 'on-air performance' monitored
    and a qualified 'monitor' certify that they meet standards of operation. This, together with the FCC going after those who do not behave
    themselves on the air, should work towards 'clean air waves'.

    That one I agree with 100%. The Technical Knowledge is SHAMEFULL. I
    concidered the Tech Exam I took a JOKE. It is catering to the LOWEST
    terchnical mentalities.


    Coming back to "Code", Personally, I think that code SHOULD be still
    be required. IMHO, the code should be memorised. This is no different
    from learning the rules and regs or Ohms law for that matter. speed
    is NOT the important thing, ability to communicate using it is.

    Now that is a CROCK. I have been fighting to learn but never winning
    the "Code Battle" since 1948. And I have tried it ALL Methods.
    Some years ago(1992) I finally gave up and became a No Code Tech.

    As a side note the FEARS of the Old Timer HAVE come to pass as the CB
    Mentality is firmly in place above 30 Mhz, at least in Southern
    California and we have Mindless Licence Mills cranking out the poorest
    quality Hams imaginable. One group I ran across that had held soem
    Licence Classes was actualy telling people that a Ham Radio can be
    concidered a "FREE CELL Phone"!!! :-( :-( :-)




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  • From STAN PHILLIPS@2:252/171 to ROY WITT on Mon Aug 7 14:49:00 2000
    ... OSCAR birds don't have feathers!

    However there are those trying to rustle the feathers of the Ham's
    who use them, by trying to take over their frequencies!!!!!

    I hadn't heard. Is that a European problem?

    No, it is an american problem. There are organizaions that want to
    use the 430-450 meg ham bands for use with low orbit satelites.
    (Data transmission, phone etc).


    73 Stan





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  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to STAN PHILLIPS on Tue Aug 8 10:11:58 2000
    Hello STAN.

    05 Aug 00 22:49, you wrote to MODERATOR:

    M >> No-Code vs Code is a viable topic for discussion here.

    From what I have been reading (and hearing), the debate is not really about 'code' as such. It is about having a test that will keep people
    who are not really interested in Ham radio out. I.E. as a 'filter'.

    I belong to a (world-wide) group that advocates the relaxing and eventual
    end to the morse code requirements. The idea to end that requirement
    isn't motivated by anything to do with testing to determine whether
    someone is worthy of becoming a HAM.

    For example, many comments about the new code speed (U.S.A.) from
    those who have qualified with high speed code, are about the
    'standards being lowered and fear of 'C.B. type behaviour' creeping
    in to H.F. operation.

    I've heard those statements and all I can say is, they have to be the old
    guard in Amateur Radio who believe they're somehow better qualified to
    judge those who would like to be in Amateur Radio. There's a lot of
    room in this hobby that would allow us to make room for those who are technically inclined, but have no desire to use CW as a means of
    communication.

    If it was really about 'code' then the comments would be more
    about a possible reduction of people available to communicate in
    'high speed code'.

    It is all about the code. One of the things about code was that in the
    past during a war, HAMs could join the services and immediatly become
    useful as a radioman. Today, the services do not use CW as a means of communications anymore. Neither do the maritime services. In fact, CW is
    dead throughout the entire world, except for the die-hards in Amateur
    Radio.

    The reality is that standards can be made higher at the technical
    written exam level, and to have their 'on-air performance' monitored
    and a qualified 'monitor' certify that they meet standards of
    operation. This, together with the FCC going after those who do not
    behave themselves on the air, should work towards 'clean air waves'.

    Exactly. When the FCC phased out the 13wpm & 20wpm morse code tests, they introduced new written exams that required more technical knowledge.

    Coming back to "Code", Personally, I think that code SHOULD be still
    be required. IMHO, the code should be memorised. This is no different
    from learning the rules and regs or Ohms law for that matter. speed
    is NOT the important thing, ability to communicate using it is.

    Code is still required here to upgrade from the 'no-code' entry level
    license to the General or Amateur Extra Class licenses, albeit at a mere
    5wpm.

    It allows communication using the simplest transmitters/receivers.
    For example, a few years ago at Dayton, a wife waiting in the car
    started calling her husband using the car horn.

    LOL! And every HAM in the neighborhood new what was up...

    CB radio is not a tabu here, but I also moderate the CB_RADIO
    conference

    Very good. It is a LONG time since I have used CB, however there are
    some local 'senior citizens' who have a 'CB' chat in the mornings. As
    I am now a 'senior citizen' perhaps I should get one and join in now
    and again. (will need a vertical antenna for 28 Megs!!!!)

    I have 2 or 3 here. I enjoy a chat with the 'other' world on occasion.

    What is the full name of the conference?

    Which reminds me, I have to update the echo rules. I had to kill that echo
    due to a lack of traffic.


    ... The Uggerumph, the Rettysnitch and the Wouff-Hong can serve again!
    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: KB6PI's Antenna Farm * Santa Ysabel, CA * (1:10/22)
  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to STAN PHILLIPS on Wed Aug 9 11:16:13 2000
    Hello STAN.

    07 Aug 00 21:49, you wrote to me:


    ... OSCAR birds don't have feathers!

    However there are those trying to rustle the feathers of the
    Ham's who use them, by trying to take over their
    frequencies!!!!!

    I hadn't heard. Is that a European problem?

    No, it is an american problem. There are organizaions that want to
    use the 430-450 meg ham bands for use with low orbit satelites.
    (Data transmission, phone etc).

    That's news to me and I'm a UHF freak...About two years ago, I sold one
    of my 450MHz repeaters (still have one in storage) to someone who had a
    keener interest, but I still use UHF and despise the VHF repeaters around
    here.



    ... No wanna work... wanna play with satellites!!!
    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Kissed By 6 Pretty Indians (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Sat Aug 12 01:20:20 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    Last Elist Rules Update: May 7, 1999
    This version 1.0.3 edited : May 7, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | new since last revision
    |C () changed since last revision
    |D () summary of deleted material

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. CB radio is not a tabu here,
    but I also moderate the CB_RADIO conference and would prefer that
    any discussion about CB be taken there.

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    |C 4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    |C Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    |C message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    |C mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    |C you are specifically replying to them.

    | 4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    | This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    | other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    | and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    | I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    | access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    | internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    | netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Aug 17 23:37:27 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    Last Elist Rules Update: May 7, 1999
    This version 1.0.3 edited : May 7, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | new since last revision
    |C () changed since last revision
    |D () summary of deleted material

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. CB radio is not a tabu here,
    but I also moderate the CB_RADIO conference and would prefer that
    any discussion about CB be taken there.

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    |C 4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    |C Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    |C message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    |C mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    |C you are specifically replying to them.

    | 4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    | This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    | other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    | and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    | I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    | access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    | internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    | netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to STAN PHILLIPS on Fri Aug 18 10:08:34 2000
    Hello STAN.

    13 Aug 00 17:49, you wrote to me:

    I belong to a (world-wide) group that advocates the relaxing and
    eventual end to the morse code requirements.

    I hope that that this does not extend to relaxing and an eventual end
    to the theory requirments!!

    On the contrary, theory testing will have more questions than before.

    In fact, CW is dead throughout the entire world, except for the
    die-hards in Amateur Radio.

    Not really, it is still in use with navigational beacons, and as ID
    on most satellite transponders.

    I believe you'll find that this only applies to Amateur Radio beacons and satellites.

    The use of code is increasing rapidly to communicate with physically handicapped people. Many hospitals are teaching code to these
    patients.

    Not here. They're given 'personal' radios, which are popular with
    shut-ins, hikers, hunters, fishermen, etc..

    What is the full name of the conference?

    Which reminds me, I have to update the echo rules. I had to kill
    that echo due to a lack of traffic.

    It has been getting that way with the HAM sig's too!!

    Actually, this echo is seeing more traffic than it's seen for the better
    part of this year.


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  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to STAN PHILLIPS on Fri Aug 18 10:18:41 2000
    Hello STAN.

    13 Aug 00 17:51, you wrote to me:


    No, it is an american problem. There are organizaions that
    want to use the 430-450 meg ham bands for use with low orbit
    satelites. (Data transmission, phone etc).

    That's news to me and I'm a UHF freak...About two years ago, I sold
    one of my 450MHz repeaters (still have one in storage) to someone
    who had a keener interest, but I still use UHF and despise the VHF
    repeaters around here.

    Do a search under 'LEO'. The commercial interests have been looking
    at the success of the ham satelites

    None of those companies are using Amateur frequencies. They're using VHF frequencies above and below our HAM 2mtr frequencies or they're using the lowend of 400MHz and above the UHF HAM frequencies at 455MHz, which are
    part of the business band. Didn't find anything which would infer that
    they'd like to take over either VHF or UHF HAM bands. BTW, our 420-450Mhz
    UHF HAM band is on a shared basis with the US military (usually radar), so
    it wouldn't surprise me if the FCC allowed those LEOs to share it too.


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  • From STAN PHILLIPS@2:252/171 to TOM WALKER on Sun Aug 13 10:42:00 2000
    Hi Tom,

    For example, many comments about the new code speed (U.S.A.) from
    those who have qualified with high speed code, are about the
    'standards being lowered and fear of 'C.B. type behaviour' creeping
    in to H.F. operation.

    Well a little listening on some of the HF bands to Those 13 & 20 WPM
    types Soundly Disproves that one. The "CB Mentality" is Alive and Well amongst the Generals, Advanced and Extra Types.

    It sure is.

    Coming back to "Code", Personally, I think that code SHOULD be still
    be required. IMHO, the code should be memorised. This is no different from learning the rules and regs or Ohms law for that matter. speed
    is NOT the important thing, ability to communicate using it is.

    Now that is a CROCK. I have been fighting to learn but never winning
    the "Code Battle" since 1948. And I have tried it ALL Methods.
    Some years ago(1992) I finally gave up and became a No Code Tech.

    I suspect that you have been trying to learn code communications at
    high speed (10 WPM or more). I initially took the 5 wpm and later
    the 12 WPM for the Canadian full licence. I am NOT suggesting that
    even a 5 WPM code be the standard (even though it is rather slow). I
    would like to see that all the code characters could be recognised
    and sent at any speed.

    Contrary to much of what we hear, there are still areas where code is
    used. Navigation beacons for example. Satellites give ID in code,
    mostly on every transponder.
    Use of code with physically handicapped people is increasing.

    One group I ran across that had held soem
    Licence Classes was actualy telling people that a Ham Radio can be concidered a "FREE CELL Phone"!!! :-( :-( :-)

    I am very sad to hear it.

    73 Stan

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  • From STAN PHILLIPS@2:252/171 to ROY WITT on Sun Aug 13 10:49:00 2000
    Hi Roy,

    I belong to a (world-wide) group that advocates the relaxing and eventual end to the morse code requirements.

    I hope that that this does not extend to relaxing and an eventual end
    to the theory requirments!!

    In fact, CW is
    dead throughout the entire world, except for the die-hards in Amateur Radio.

    Not really, it is still in use with navigational beacons, and as ID
    on most satellite transponders.

    The use of code is increasing rapidly to communicate with physically handicapped people. Many hospitals are teaching code to these patients.

    What is the full name of the conference?

    Which reminds me, I have to update the echo rules. I had to kill that echo due to a lack of traffic.

    It has been getting that way with the HAM sig's too!!


    73 Stan

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  • From STAN PHILLIPS@2:252/171 to ROY WITT on Sun Aug 13 10:51:00 2000
    No, it is an american problem. There are organizaions that want to use the 430-450 meg ham bands for use with low orbit satelites.
    (Data transmission, phone etc).

    That's news to me and I'm a UHF freak...About two years ago, I sold one
    of my 450MHz repeaters (still have one in storage) to someone who had a keener interest, but I still use UHF and despise the VHF repeaters around here.

    Do a search under 'LEO'. The commercial interests have been looking
    at the success of the ham satelites

    73 Stan

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  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to STAN PHILLIPS on Tue Aug 22 11:50:33 2000
    Hello STAN.

    20 Aug 00 22:45, you wrote to me:


    Not really, it is still in use with navigational beacons, and
    as ID on most satellite transponders.

    I believe you'll find that this only applies to Amateur Radio
    beacons and satellites.

    I was referring to navigational beacons used by both marine
    (shipping) and aircraft.

    Since marine and aircraft no longer use CW, there's no need for CW
    beacons. I think you'll find that they're all using digital
    communications now. I think it was France who announced back in 1998 that
    the end of that year (or the following February) signaled the end of their
    CW in their maritime service. I believe the announcement said that they
    were the last country to do so.

    The satelites I am referring to include the commercial television satellites. Each transponder has it's own identification in code.

    In a digital format.

    The use of code is increasing rapidly to communicate with
    physically handicapped people. Many hospitals are teaching
    code to these patients.

    Not here. They're given 'personal' radios, which are popular with
    shut-ins, hikers, hunters, fishermen, etc..

    Personal radios are of no use in helping them talk to other people.

    That's funny.

    A person who is unable to speak and has only very limited movement of their body is able to operate a key with some part of their body.

    Well, unless they're HAMs, they'll be limited to what we call 'Part 15 -
    no license required' radios. Those are less than 500mw. I'm afraid they'd
    be about as usless for communications as the Personal Radio spectrum would
    be if they couldn't speak (at least they have 2 watts of power). I'm
    waiting for someone to invent the 'thought transponder' though. That
    ought to be a gas. Meanwhile, I'd recommend a VOX operated radio for
    those who can speak.

    Actually, this echo is seeing more traffic than it's seen for the
    better part of this year.

    It is very good to see.

    At one time, there were probably a dozen or more echos dedicated to radio
    in some fashion. I see that RADIO-HOBBY-ALL was removed from distribution
    this month. I removed PACKET and CB_RADIO from distribution, simply
    because the traffic didn't keep up with the distribution systems
    requirements. HAM-TECH's moderator hasn't been heard from since the first
    of the year, but the echo continues to be updated, even though it only has
    two users. The only radio oriented echo that has more traffic than this
    one is LS-ARRL, with the contents of the echo being entirely a bunch of
    x-posts from the ARRL bulletin system. Finally, there's AMATEUR_RADIO,
    which hasn't had much traffic this year, but the moderator continues to
    update it. Meanwhile, as long as there's still some traffic in this echo,
    I'll keep it going. I hope to be the guy who turns out the lights when
    Fidonet finally takes it's last breath in Z1.

    * Only adults have difficulty with childproof caps.

    My wife, especially. Tried to show her that it's just a squeeze and
    twist, but she's not coordinated enough to figure that out. What amazes
    her is that I open them quite easily by using palm pressure and a twist
    and she can't open them with both hands wrapped around the bottle, using
    every muscle in her hands and arms.


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  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to STAN PHILLIPS on Tue Aug 22 12:14:50 2000
    Hello STAN.

    20 Aug 00 22:47, you wrote to me:


    Do a search under 'LEO'. The commercial interests have been
    looking at the success of the ham satelites

    None of those companies are using Amateur frequencies.

    However, there has been (and possibly still is) govt. lobbying to
    get access to this part of the Ham bands.

    Our military uses frequencies from 300MHz to well over 400MHz and they're
    not going to give it up.

    they'd like to take over either VHF or UHF HAM bands. BTW, our
    420-450Mhz UHF HAM band is on a shared basis with the US military
    (usually radar),

    It was apparently the military that kept them out at their last
    attempt.

    As long as the military has a use for those frequencies, they won't allow anyone to have them. There are places along the Canadian/American
    border where the use of those frequencies by Amateurs is even forbidden.
    When I lived near the Miramar Navel Base in San Diego, I had to put up
    with radar interference, every day. Those who live closer to the Navel
    base on North Island have radar interference even worse from all of the
    navy ships in the harbor and their airfield. That's what we have to put
    up with while sharing military frequencies and that's probably the reason
    the military isn't going to want any other gov't or commercial users on
    those frequencies.


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  • From Richard Brumbaugh@1:170/302.17 to Roy Witt on Sun Aug 27 12:02:01 2000
    On (27 Aug 00) Roy Witt wrote to STAN PHILLIPS...

    technology. CW has been phased out of military use and for the most
    part, commercial use as well.

    Sad! I was an airborne radio op on B-29, B-17, C-47, C-54, C-119,
    SA-16, and C-46 during Korean conflict.

    Best regards, (73)
    Dick, W5MFD since 1946
    richard.brumbaugh@gratisnet.com

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  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to STAN PHILLIPS on Sun Aug 27 01:32:22 2000
    Hello STAN.

    24 Aug 00 21:50, you wrote to me:

    Since marine and aircraft no longer use CW, there's no need for CW
    beacons. I think you'll find that they're all using digital
    communications now. I think it was France who announced back in
    1998 that the end of that year (or the following February) signaled
    the end of their CW in their maritime service. I believe the
    announcement said that they were the last country to do so.

    Perhaps there is no need, however they are there and are still being
    used. They may indeed give a digital signal however I have no info on that, other than the operating frequency is rather low (below 500
    Khz) and I would have expected a digital to be heard as well as the
    code identification is.

    A digital ID is in ASCII code (dual tones as in AX25 mode) on SSB (low
    freq) or FM carrier, not CW. If you're hearing morse ID on a CW, then the beacon is probably an old one which will be replaced someday with new technology. CW has been phased out of military use and for the most part, commercial use as well.

    The satelites I am referring to include the commercial
    television satellites. Each transponder has it's own
    identification in code.

    In a digital format.

    Well, I suppose that normal morse code could be classed as
    'digital'.

    Not unless it's dual tone.

    A person who is unable to speak and has only very limited
    movement of their body is able to operate a key with some part
    of their body.

    Well, unless they're HAMs, they'll be limited to what we call 'Part
    15 - no license required' radios.

    They are not using radios. They are using normal AF though a
    loudspeaker.

    Some are now using code to ascii converters as input to a normal
    computer.

    Then there's no longer a need for the loudspeaker, just a set of
    headphones for those who can't type.


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  • From STAN PHILLIPS@2:252/171 to ROY WITT on Thu Aug 24 14:50:00 2000
    MSGID: 1:10/22 39a2d10c
    REPLY: 2:252/171 cc6d22c5
    PID: GEDW32 3.0.1
    CHRS: IBMPC 2
    TID: FastEcho 1.46.1 8614
    Hello STAN.

    20 Aug 00 22:45, you wrote to me:


    Not really, it is still in use with navigational beacons, and
    as ID on most satellite transponders.

    I believe you'll find that this only applies to Amateur Radio
    beacons and satellites.

    I was referring to navigational beacons used by both marine
    (shipping) and aircraft.

    Since marine and aircraft no longer use CW, there's no need for CW
    beacons. I think you'll find that they're all using digital
    communications now. I think it was France who announced back in 1998 that the end of that year (or the following February) signaled the end of their CW in their maritime service. I believe the announcement said that they were the last country to do so.


    Perhaps there is no need, however they are there and are still being used.
    They may indeed give a digital signal however I have no info on that,
    other than the operating frequency is rather low (below 500 Khz) and
    I would have expected a digital to be heard as well as the code
    identification is.

    The satelites I am referring to include the commercial television satellites. Each transponder has it's own identification in code.

    In a digital format.

    Well, I suppose that normal morse code could be classed as 'digital'.

    A person who is unable to speak and has only very limited movement of their body is able to operate a key with some part of their body.

    Well, unless they're HAMs, they'll be limited to what we call 'Part 15 -
    no license required' radios.

    They are not using radios. They are using normal AF though a loudspeaker.

    Some are now using code to ascii converters as input to a normal
    computer.

    Actually, this echo is seeing more traffic than it's seen for the
    better part of this year.

    It is very good to see.

    .....Meanwhile, as long as there's still some traffic in this echo,
    I'll keep it going. I hope to be the guy who turns out the lights when Fidonet finally takes it's last breath in Z1.

    Very good.

    73 Stan

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  • From STAN PHILLIPS@2:252/171 to ROY WITT on Tue Aug 29 08:12:00 2000
    MSGID: 1:10/22 39a8d523
    REPLY: 2:252/171 fc9336dc
    PID: GEDW32 3.0.1
    CHRS: IBMPC 2
    TID: FastEcho 1.46.1 8614
    Hello STAN.

    24 Aug 00 21:50, you wrote to me:

    Since marine and aircraft no longer use CW, there's no need for CW
    beacons. I think you'll find that they're all using digital
    communications now. I think it was France who announced back in
    1998 that the end of that year (or the following February) signaled
    the end of their CW in their maritime service. I believe the
    announcement said that they were the last country to do so.

    Perhaps there is no need, however they are there and are still being used. They may indeed give a digital signal however I have no info on that, other than the operating frequency is rather low (below 500
    Khz) and I would have expected a digital to be heard as well as the code identification is.

    A digital ID is in ASCII code

    Then the code ID is just that, code.

    I have just taken a look at my 'aeronautical map' for this area (VFR
    Terminal area chart) and the beacons giving code ID are all there. I
    have just taken a listen on the rig and the local ones are still transmitting. The signal is constant unmodulated RF with an AF tone modulation (MCW)
    giving the ID in code at regular intervals. The code ID on the maps
    is given as 'dots and dashes' and is transmitted quite slowly so
    those using the maps can easily identify them. The ID in in the form
    of 2 or more characters.

    The frequecies are all below 300 KHZ so that echoes do not give wrong
    DF readings.

    The satelites I am referring to include the commercial
    television satellites. Each transponder has it's own
    identification in code.

    In a digital format.

    Well, I suppose that normal morse code could be classed as
    'digital'.

    Not unless it's dual tone.

    Then it is normal MCW code.

    They are not using radios. They are using normal AF though a loudspeaker.

    Some are now using code to ascii converters as input to a normal computer.

    Then there's no longer a need for the loudspeaker, just a set of
    headphones for those who can't type.


    Take a look at this web page. It gives info on one of the paralyzed
    people using code to communicate. This is only one of many.

    http://www.healthweek.com/features/ahfeat4.html

    Just out of interest, if you know anyone that has a C band TV
    satellite system, pick any transponder (channel), go to the sound
    setup. If it is digital sound, change it to normal and tune to above
    the normal upper limit of 6.8 Meg to just above 7 meg. You will hear
    the morse code "transponder and user ID". In MCW. Unlike the
    navigtional beacons, the code is about the 18-20 WPM speed.

    73 Stan


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  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to Richard Brumbaugh on Mon Aug 28 10:00:12 2000
    Hello Richard.

    27 Aug 00 19:02, Richard Brumbaugh wrote to Roy Witt:

    technology. CW has been phased out of military use and for the most
    part, commercial use as well.

    Sad! I was an airborne radio op on B-29, B-17, C-47, C-54, C-119,
    SA-16, and C-46 during Korean conflict.

    Did you ever get in contact with Wayne Green while he was on WWII
    submarine duty?


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  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to STAN PHILLIPS on Sat Sep 2 11:24:30 2000
    Hello STAN.

    29 Aug 00 15:12, you wrote to me:

    A digital ID is in ASCII code

    Then the code ID is just that, code.

    OK...


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  • From Richard Brumbaugh@1:170/302.17 to Roy Witt on Fri Sep 1 04:03:15 2000
    On (28 Aug 00) Roy Witt wrote to Richard Brumbaugh...

    Did you ever get in contact with Wayne Green while he was on WWII submarine duty?

    No. I was too young for WWII by a few years. I spent 2½ years in the
    USNR in the 40's, though.

    My brother, Frank Brumbaugh, (J. Frank Brumbaugh), W4LJD, is s fan of
    his. He has written many articles for 73 magazine, for PAY, hi.
    He began WWII as a paratrooper jumping in Normandy. He may have known
    Wayne back then. I'll ask him if I can think about it.
    I think one was published just this year. He has had many calls since
    the '40's, including XAFQ Trieste Free State after the war. I don't
    have one of his QSL cards to look at, but he moved around a lot and
    had to get different call letters back then. He just moved back to
    Bradenton FL last year. He'd been living in Puerto Rico for a long
    time. That last huricane about did him in. He had an upstairs apt
    over a bar that lost its' roof. He lost 2 mills, plus everything made
    from paper. He's not into computers, unfortunately, but I maintain
    "cell phone" contact with him regularly. Free nationwide LD, hi,
    besides being retired from Ma Bell and get $30.00/month free LD.
    And you know????? I never use hardly any of it ;-((
    Later

    Best regards, (73)
    Dick, W5MFD since 1946
    richard.brumbaugh@gratisnet.com

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  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to Richard Brumbaugh on Tue Sep 5 12:02:54 2000
    Hello Richard.

    01 Sep 00 11:03, you wrote to me:

    Did you ever get in contact with Wayne Green while he was on WWII
    submarine duty?

    No. I was too young for WWII by a few years. I spent 2½ years in
    the USNR in the 40's, though.

    I was a 1940s pre-war baby, so all of this is interesting to me. I
    remember my dad going off to war in 45.

    My brother, Frank Brumbaugh, (J. Frank Brumbaugh), W4LJD, is s fan of
    his. He has written many articles for 73 magazine, for PAY, hi.

    I've been a fan of his too. He's one smart cookie.

    He began WWII as a paratrooper jumping in Normandy. He may have
    known Wayne back then. I'll ask him if I can think about it. I think
    one was published just this year. He has had many calls since the
    '40's, including XAFQ Trieste Free State after the war. I don't have
    one of his QSL cards to look at, but he moved around a lot and had to
    get different call letters back then.

    That would be similar to my uncle. Started out late in the war, then
    afterwards he made a career of it, stationed in all those weird places
    from Formosa to Iran and ending up in the Pentagon.

    He just moved back to Bradenton FL last year.

    I think that's where my uncle retired to.

    He'd been living in Puerto Rico for a long time. That last huricane
    about did him in. He had an upstairs apt over a bar that lost its'
    roof. He lost 2 mills, plus everything made from paper.

    He's not out of the woods in Brandonton. Those hurricanes go there too.

    He's not into computers, unfortunately, but I maintain "cell phone" contact with him regularly. Free nationwide LD, hi, besides being
    retired from Ma Bell and get $30.00/month free LD. And you know?????
    I never use hardly any of it ;-(( Later

    That's a shame, although, how much is there to talk about every month that would warrant spending that much time on the phone? I spend an hour about
    once a month with my folks and that's good until the next month.


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  • From Richard Brumbaugh@1:170/302.17 to Roy Witt on Wed Sep 6 02:33:15 2000
    On (05 Sep 00) Roy Witt wrote to Richard Brumbaugh...

    My brother, Frank Brumbaugh, (J. Frank Brumbaugh), W4LJD, is s fan of
    his. He has written many articles for 73 magazine, for PAY, hi.

    I've been a fan of his too. He's one smart cookie.

    I assume that you mean Wayne, and not my brother, hi.
    Although he was chief engineer at Heathkit many years ago.

    He's not out of the woods in Brandonton. Those hurricanes go there
    too.

    But not as bad. He lived in Bradenton on his boat before he sold it
    and went to PR. When he first got back to Bradenton he actually got
    back into his same apt, but the place was sold right away, and he had
    to move. I don't know why his antenna situation is so bad, but his
    antenna is indoors and seven (7) feet high, hi. And no, he hasn't
    been getting out very well.

    That's a shame, although, how much is there to talk about every month
    that would warrant spending that much time on the phone? I spend an
    hour about once a month with my folks and that's good until the next month.

    I know. All that time I could use, and there is at least half dozen
    people that I could call, I'm just too lazy to do it. Mainly, because
    the other party wants to stay on line for so long, and nil to talk
    about. My brother included. We were on the phone for an hour and ten
    minutes the other day. Of course, there's plenty we can discuss, hi.
    BTW: We haven't seen each other since 1949.

    Best regards, (73)
    Dick, W5MFD since 1946
    richard.brumbaugh@gratisnet.com

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: A School-Free Gun Zone * Tulsa OK * USA (1:170/302.17)
  • From STAN PHILLIPS@2:252/171 to ROY WITT on Wed Sep 6 13:27:00 2000
    Hi Roy,

    Not really, it is still in use with navigational beacons,


    I was referring to navigational beacons used by both marine
    (shipping) and aircraft.

    Since marine and aircraft no longer use CW, there's no need for CW
    beacons. I think you'll find that they're all using digital
    communications now.

    ***** Sept 6th 2000 ******

    Hi Roy,

    I have just received confirmation from our local "Air Ground School"
    that ID in morse code is used on almost all Aircraft navigation
    beacons I had thought that morse code ID was only on the low power 'non-directional' beacons . I also had it confirmed that there is no suggestion that there is any intention to change from Morse Code ID.
    The pilots rarley know code, they just match the dits and dah's to
    the beacon on the map (I.E. the id's on the maps are written as dots
    and dashes, not the letter(s)/number(s) that the morse code represents.)

    All the best.

    Stan

    * Biblical Typing Method: Seek and Ye Shall Find.
    ---
    ■ RoseReader 2.52ß P003387
    * Origin: FONiX Info Systems * Berkshire UK * +44 1344 641625 (2:252/171)
  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to Richard Brumbaugh on Thu Sep 7 11:33:12 2000
    Hello Richard.

    06 Sep 00 09:33, you wrote to me:

    My brother, Frank Brumbaugh, (J. Frank Brumbaugh), W4LJD, is s fan
    of his. He has written many articles for 73 magazine, for PAY, hi.

    I've been a fan of his too. He's one smart cookie.

    I assume that you mean Wayne, and not my brother, hi.
    Although he was chief engineer at Heathkit many years ago.

    Wow..he got around. Tell him next time you communicate, that I appreciate
    the engineering on some of thier products that I've used over the years.
    He may not have been there when they made "lunch boxes" or the Apache
    linear amps, but those were great products.

    He's not out of the woods in Brandonton. Those hurricanes go there
    too.

    But not as bad. He lived in Bradenton on his boat before he sold it
    and went to PR. When he first got back to Bradenton he actually got
    back into his same apt, but the place was sold right away, and he had
    to move. I don't know why his antenna situation is so bad, but his antenna is indoors and seven (7) feet high, hi. And no, he hasn't
    been getting out very well.

    Heh...reminds me of my Elmer. He was a Navy Chief, housed in bachelor
    quarters on the Navel Training Center here in San Diego. He loaded up the
    rain gutters with a antenna tuner. Worked pretty good, as I heard him
    running 100 watts on 10meters from Poway valley. The NTC and Poway would almost be line of sight for 25 miles (NTC at sea level - Poway at
    400'above) if it wasn't for multiple 800' ridges that runs in between
    them.

    That's a shame, although, how much is there to talk about every
    month that would warrant spending that much time on the phone? I
    spend an hour about once a month with my folks and that's good until
    the next month.

    I know. All that time I could use, and there is at least half dozen people that I could call, I'm just too lazy to do it. Mainly,
    because the other party wants to stay on line for so long, and nil to
    talk about.

    You're probably like me. I think that too much phone time is an intrusion
    into my personal time.

    My brother included. We were on the phone for an hour
    and ten minutes the other day. Of course, there's plenty we can
    discuss, hi. BTW: We haven't seen each other since 1949.

    So, while you're talking to each other, the picture you both have of each
    other is what you looked like in 1949....{:)


    ... Talk is easy and natural - AEC hams chirp like turKEYS!
    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: KB6PI's Antenna Farm * Santa Ysabel, CA * (1:10/22)
  • From Richard Brumbaugh@1:170/302.17 to Roy Witt on Sun Sep 10 15:25:14 2000
    On (07 Sep 00) Roy Witt wrote to Richard Brumbaugh...

    Wow..he got around. Tell him next time you communicate, that I
    appreciate the engineering on some of thier products that I've used
    over the years. He may not have been there when they made "lunch
    boxes" or the Apache
    linear amps, but those were great products.

    Will do. If you remember the "Direct Reading Capacity Meter", he sold
    Heath the patent rights to it.

    You're probably like me. I think that too much phone time is an
    intrusion into my personal time.

    I just don't like to talk more than about 15 minutes.

    So, while you're talking to each other, the picture you both have of
    each other is what you looked like in 1949....{:)

    Looking at the picture he sent me of HIM a couple of years ago I'd say
    so. He had black hair and beard and looked about 30, hi.
    I "know" he looks different now, cuz last year he was down to about 3
    teeth. He's got some false ones now that he's complaining about, hi.

    Best regards, (73)
    Dick, W5MFD since 1946
    richard.brumbaugh@gratisnet.com

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: A School-Free Gun Zone * Tulsa OK * USA (1:170/302.17)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Sep 28 23:10:25 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

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    HAM Conference Guide Lines
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    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Fri Oct 13 08:45:27 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
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    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Oct 19 22:45:30 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Fri Oct 27 22:45:31 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
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    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
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    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
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    HAM Conference Guide Lines
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    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Nov 9 21:45:23 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Nov 16 21:45:18 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Nov 23 21:45:12 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Nov 30 21:45:18 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
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    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Dec 14 21:45:15 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Dec 21 21:45:25 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Dec 28 21:45:18 2000
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Jan 4 21:45:25 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Jan 11 21:45:25 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Fri Jan 19 07:45:45 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Fri Jan 26 21:45:10 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Feb 1 21:45:18 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Feb 15 21:45:06 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Sat Mar 17 21:45:09 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Tue Apr 3 08:45:04 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Apr 5 22:45:04 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Apr 12 22:45:06 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Apr 19 22:45:04 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu May 3 22:45:04 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Fri May 11 22:45:06 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu May 10 22:45:09 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Sat May 19 09:52:42 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu May 24 22:45:02 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Mon Jun 4 00:28:02 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Jun 14 22:45:20 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Jun 28 22:45:19 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



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    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Fri Jul 6 08:45:26 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)
  • From Moderator@1:10/22 to All on Thu Jul 12 22:45:22 2001
    The Radio Amateur's Echo
    EchoTag: HAM
    :C Last Elist Rules Update: August 2, 2000
    :D This update information isn't needed.
    This version 1.0.5 edited : August 27, 2000

    Your Host and Moderator

    Roy Witt 1:10/22 roywitt@pacbell.net

    | (new since last revision)
    |C (changed since last revision)
    |D (summary of deleted material)

    HAM Conference Guide Lines
    --------------------------

    1. The topic.

    Topics should relate to radio in general, but try to keep it
    as close to Amateur (HAM) radio as possible. There is no topic
    about radio that is off-topic. Be forwarned, No-Code vs Code is
    a viable topic for discussion here. (CB radio discussion is not
    a tabu here. However, this doesn't mean we'll be using 10-codes
    and CB 'good-buddy jargon' to communicate in the HAM echo.)

    2. Decorum.

    NO blatant profanity, flames, insults or slander. Regardless
    of your actual circumstances, please act as a mature,
    responsible adult while participating in HAM.

    3. Disputes with others.

    Any disputes with other echo users will be in a gentlemanly
    or ladylike manner.

    Please leave the moderating to the moderator. If you have a
    dispute with the moderator, see section 8.

    Those conference users who do not have access to Email or
    netmail should advise a moderator of their situation, here.
    I'll do my best to provide you with a means of communication
    to resolve any question or situation you may have.

    4a. Edit your Quotes!

    Keep your quoting to the minimum necessary to establish the
    context of your reply. Certainly, don't quote more than you
    originate.

    Do not include the other persons - hello, goodbye, "In a
    message to" lines, offline mail reader signatures, taglines,
    mail tosser PID lines or origin lines in your quote unless
    you are specifically replying to them.

    4b. Misc message do's and don'ts.

    English is the official language of the HAM echo. For those
    whose 'first' language is English, make sure you check your
    spelling and correct your grammar. Let's set an example for
    those whose 'first' language isn't English.

    Having to agree with what anyone else says is not a requirement
    for this conference. Disagree with opinions if you must, but do
    not attack the person.

    This is not the place to display advertisements for any
    other echo or your BBS. I advertise this echo in ECHO-ADS
    and expect you to do the same.

    Taglines; Do not use any controversial taglines in the HAM
    conference.

    5. Conference access.

    The HAM conference is NOT bound by FidoNet! It's open to any
    network and system that wishes to carry it.

    I have plans to incorporate a 'mailing list' type of internet
    access to this echo. Anyone wishing to participate via an
    internet mailing list, please forward your intentions to me via
    netmail or to my email address.

    You must have permission from the HAM echo moderator to post
    here if you're participating via the internet mailing list.

    Gating or cross-posting of the HAM conference to any other
    conference and/or networks will not be permitted without explicit
    permission from the moderator(s).

    6. Use your real name.

    All messages posted in the HAM echo will contain the REAL
    name of the poster. Alias' are preferred in the body of the
    message, but may be used in the FROM: field with permission
    of the moderator. Messages originating on/from the internet
    mailing list will have the posters email address in the
    header of the message. The post must be signed by the
    poster and the maillist must show the gateway being used to
    post in this echo.

    7. Commercial Use.

    Commercial use of an echo in Fidonet is frowned upon.
    Secondly, sysops are paying for the transport of this
    conference out of their own pockets, and don't want to foot
    the bill for commercial advertising.

    However, store owners or businessmen MAY respond to want-ads
    from people looking for specific products. If someone asks
    "where can I get a blah-blah-blah?" feel free to respond if
    you have a blah-blah-blah in stock.

    You may post an occasional "press release" type of message if
    you have a _new_ or unique product that is of interest to the
    conference participants.

    Advice, comments, and recommendations about commercial
    products in response to a question are always appropriate.

    8. Loopholes.

    These rules are a living document and I reserve the right to
    change them as I deem necessary.

    Unless specifically excepted, discussion of the rules of this
    conference is off topic. These are the rules. Read them.
    Learn them. Live them. Love them.

    However, I am open to suggestion for any change which a user
    may wish to suggest. I may not implement your ideas or rules
    change, but don't let fear hold you back.

    All disputes with the Moderator(s) WILL be handled in private
    Netmail or Email and not in the echo. My method of handling
    those who post a dispute with the moderator will be to cut their
    access to this echo and then we'll talk. Don't make me do it.

    Any input (via netmail or E-mail) is always welcome.
    The addresses are listed at the beginning of this document.

    EOF.



    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Santa Ysabel SYPNET, Santa Ysabel, CA (1:10/22)