• TgM re-edit

    From August Abolins@2:333/808.7 to Charles Pierson on Mon Oct 12 23:36:59 2020
    Hi Charles!
    12 Oct 20 15:12, you wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

    It gets messages from the Telegram's group and sends them to Fido
    echo...

    Exactly. So what August vis asking, a "recall message" like
    functionality, I don't think is possible is it?

    I'm not suggesting a recall in Telegram. I'm just suggesting that the bot wait a little while before snatching the message from the Telegram servers. While the message still lingers on the server, we can change it. But once the bot grabs it from the servers, then it could be considered "sent".

    It would be not unlike saving a message with an editor (GoldED, Jam, Squish, MSG, etc..) and still have the ability to adjust the message before packaging it up to actually send it.

    If Stas wants the bot to process the messages from the servers immediately, then that is understood. I'll just have to pay more attention to my typos and exclusions.


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  • From Charles Pierson@2:221/6 to August Abolins on Tue Oct 13 03:01:34 2020
    Hello, August Abolins - Charles Pierson.
    On 10/12/20 3:36 PM you wrote:

    Hi Charles! 12 Oct 20 15:12, you wrote to Stas Mishchenkov: SM>> It
    gets messages from the Telegram's group and sends them to Fido SM>>
    echo... CP> Exactly. So what August vis asking, a "recall message"
    like CP> functionality, I don't think is possible is it? I'm not
    suggesting a recall in Telegram. I'm just suggesting that the bot
    wait a little while before snatching the message from the Telegram
    servers. While the message still lingers on the server, we can
    change it. But once the bot grabs it from the servers, then it could
    be considered "sent". It would be not unlike saving a message with
    an editor (GoldED, Jam, Squish, MSG, etc..) and still have the
    ability to adjust the message before packaging it up to actually
    send it.

    But this isn't an editor. It's a messaging program. The process is more
    like text messages than Fido. Stas's program simply grabs those messages
    and does the conversion stuff to go between two different communication technologies.
    Like a former manager if mine used to say, it's comparing apples to
    Buicks.

    It takes a different mindset almost to message from one side or the
    other.

    Fidonet is what 35 years old or so, and honestly, the basic technology
    behind it hasn't changed much in that time.

    Messaging Apps are by design meant to be sent instantly. They don't have
    nice blocks for subjects or areas to put drafts until you are sure
    you're ready to send.


    So there really isn't a "server" holding the messages on Telegrams side
    in the way you're meaning.

    Yes, strictly in Telegram, you could delete a message after you sent it.
    But anyone in the group still could have read it before that point.

    You simply have to re-read your message prior to sending. I know it
    takes me a while sometimes. I'm a horrid typist.





    If Stas wants the bot to process the messages from the servers
    immediately, then that is understood. I'll just have to pay more
    attention to my typos and exclusions. --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW
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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Wed Oct 14 07:24:28 2020
    Hi, August!

    12 «¬Γ 20 23:36, August Abolins -> Charles Pierson:

    I'm not suggesting a recall in Telegram. I'm just suggesting that the
    bot wait a little while before snatching the message from the Telegram servers. While the message still lingers on the server, we can change
    it. But once the bot grabs it from the servers, then it could be considered "sent".

    It doesn't make any sense. After you have pressed the "send" button, your changes will be in another message, moreover, in a message of a different type.

    If Stas wants the bot to process the messages from the servers immediately, then that is understood. I'll just have to pay more attention to my typos and exclusions.

    This is only way. ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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