Yes, that's one type. Also some wrapping / linelength issues, which
could be just poor configuration by the user.
I think I know why it is (sometimes) happenning. I'll report this
to Aftershock's developer.
Well that's excellent, thanks.
Echomail is just a different flavor of netmail.
The only "rule" to become a sysop is to demonstrate
the ability to send and receive netmail.
All of us in this echo have demonstrated that ability.
Therefore, all participants in this echo hsve passed the
test and are hereby certified as Fidonet sysops.
On 10 Nov 22 07:11:00, Kurt Weiske said the following to John Dovey:
Therefore, all participants in this echo hsve passed the
test and are hereby certified as Fidonet sysops.
NO.
I'd love to be able to add "Fidonet Sysop Certification" to my resume. Is
there a test?
I've listed Fido as a skill on my resume... and not a probation status either.
18 Nov 2022 19:57, you wrote to me:
I think I know why it is (sometimes) happenning. I'll report this
to Aftershock's developer.
I have report it to Anatoly.
Ok, anyway I'm reporting this in the AFTERSHOCK echo with more info about the issue.
Carlos
It's supposed to be sysop-only. Unfortunately many sysops don't
bother to properly configure their echos, and don't seem to care even
when that is pointed out. The web interface is another way it becomes public, and find-able in search engines. Again, because of poor configuration by sysops, either through ignorance, or willful disregard.
The web access is especially aggravating to me personally. A BBS should not be also a website, in my opinion. I know, many feel otherwise. To
me it "defeats the purpose" of running a BBS. If you want to run a website, then run a website, not a BBS. It takes away the "privacy" of
a traditional BBS.
I have no problem with a BBS running a web interface. Time moves on and technology evolves. It's one way to keep the BBS scene alive. The same access levels apply to the echoes available on my website as through the BBS so there's really no loss/gain there. I don't have ssh/telnet access from work so the web interface is a good way for me to connect to my BBS.
how many people read fidonet on the web? ;)
how many people read fidonet on the web? ;)
Daniel PATH wrote to Nigel Reed <=-
I have no problem with a BBS running a web interface. Time moves on and technology evolves. It's one way to keep the BBS scene alive. The same access levels apply to the echoes available on my website as through the BBS so there's really no loss/gain there. I don't have ssh/telnet access from work so the web interface is a good way for me to connect to my BBS.
how many people read fidonet on the web? ;)
Re: Bad behaviour not wanted.
By: Daniel PATH to Nigel Reed on Wed Nov 09 2022 18:43:21
how many people read fidonet on the web? ;)
I don't know, why don't you go count them?
* Origin: End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com (1:124/5016)
how many people read fidonet on the web? ;)
There is at least one or two that constantly look for access to the Z1C echo.
Nice guy... except when he would spam every freaking echo once a year or so.
Back when Doc's Place went down for a while, a year or two ago, there were several displaced readers of the COOKING echo that were looking for a new
http://endofthelinebbs.com/?page=001-forum.ssjs&group=7
This is one is also pretty good, +S)earch'able
https://www.ipingthereforeiam.com/bbs/msgs/
http://endofthelinebbs.com/?page=001-forum.ssjs&group=7
This is one is also pretty good, +S)earch'able
https://www.ipingthereforeiam.com/bbs/msgs/
This thing was calling my bbs every day and it was capturing the login screen. Now it is blocked to the mailer.
https://www.ipingthereforeiam.com/bbs/?view=18601
I have no problem with a BBS running a web interface. Time moves onand
technology evolves. It's one way to keep the BBS scene alive. Thesame
access levels apply to the echoes available on my website as throughthe
BBS so there's really no loss/gain there. I don't have ssh/telnetaccess
from work so the web interface is a good way for me to connect to myBBS.
how many people read fidonet on the web? ;)
On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 05:17:13 +0100
"Bj_rn Felten" <bj_rn.felten@2:203/2> wrote:
I tolerate a lot of bullshit between certain parties in the
echo, but wishing cancer on someone is not acceptable.
I don't think that this guy understands how badly his actions
reflect on his parents. After all, they are the ones that obviously
failed to teach him elementary, human decency. And that in turn gives
his grandparents a bad rep too...
I think too many people have been at this for a long time on both sides
of the Atlantic. They all need to step down and let someone else take
over, who are actually going to foster good relationships between zones
and actually try to work together rather than wishing boils and warts
on each other.
This is bad for fidonet. The ZCs are representatives for us all.
They're supposed to be grown adults but do not behave that way.
I'm just thankful that new sysops don't need (or even can) see this
before joining up with fidonet, otherwise I'm sure many wouldn't want
to be party to such bickering. Maybe I'm just one of the "new" sysops
who isn't used to something that's been going on for 38 years.
Will be interesting to see if their children ever read these posts to
see what spiteful, hurtful, hateful people their parents were.
--
End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23
On 07 Nov 22 20:49:47, Nigel Reed said the following to All:
This is bad for fidonet. The ZCs are representatives for us all.
They're supposed to be grown adults but do not behave that way.
For the few people that flame me in public about how bad I am or not doing my job, privately I get double the supportive/understanding feedback.
I actually have a good relation with the other ZC's but you won't see any of that, just singling me out for whatever I said that was somehow offensive to you. Someone who really know the context would understand. Someone who does not can and will hit the Next-key.
Nick
On 08 Nov 22 21:50:41, Nigel Reed said the following to Nick Andre:
When I started my BBS, one of my aims was to be connected to anything an everything I could. This last month I've dropped a lot of networks. All Gerts (Familynet, STN, Linuxnet, Gatornet, etc), Starnet and Sportsnet s shop as did combatnet. This is something I do agree on. There's too many
I was the same way when I started in late '93... early '94. Nowadays there i too much supply, not enough demand. Its tempting to drop all of them here.
Nick
On 08 Nov 22 19:19:54, Alan Ianson said the following to Nick Andre:
Allen Prunty was the last elected moderator of this area. I don't know w has become of him but I don't think he had any probationary sysops hangi around.
I've never heard of the term "probationary Sysop" until recently.
Mixed feelings about Allen, was nice to me but he tried shoving down my thro about running some weird central Hub system and was always going to be aroun reliable, etc etc till one day he just pulled a Frank...
Nick
Dan,
I think that a sysop-only echo is sysop-only for both read and write. I guess the one who could/should answer this is the ECHO MODERATOR.
There is no such thing as a sysop-only echo ... the moderator may name it so but it's meaningless.
Way way back in time when animals still could talk I decided to keep ENET.SY closed but quickly discovered that in Fidonet there will always be at least participant who'll send it to a person whom does not qualify per the rules.
I stopped worrying about that and accepted the reality that no echo is restricted. You have a secret to tell? Don't use echomail, send netmail ... crash.
\%/@rd
On 10 Nov 22 05:22:34, Lee Lofaso said the following to Nick Andre:
The troll says what?
GET SOME HEARING AIDS.
The troll says what?
Nick
Lee Lofaso wrote to Nick Andre <=-
Participants own this echo. Sysops and probationary sysops alike.
As well as moderators and moderator wannabes. And Canucks.
Or, those who self-identify as sysops?
My wife is sysop-adjacent, does she count?
... If it isn't broken, I can fix it.
I'd say message exchange via JamNNTP is a different kind of
Board, focused on messaging.
And let's not focus too much on JamNNTP alone ... there's also the Telegram-platform that no-one worries about ...
I find it rather interesting how all these technologies bind together.
\%/@rd
On 12.11.2022 14:52, Ward Dossche wrote:
I'd say message exchange via JamNNTP is a different kind of
Board, focused on messaging.
And let's not focus too much on JamNNTP alone ... there's also theTelegram-platform that no-one worries about ...
I find it rather interesting how all these technologies bind together.
One might ask where is the limit of native fidonet messages and gated messages...
Jam(Smapi)NNTPd is just an ftn editor over nntp protocol, it reads and write JAM/Squish/OPUS message base as any traditional ftn msg editor or bbs softwa
If I get it right, Telegram BBS of Stas is a gateway from fidonet to telegra and vice versa.
Alan,
It's not about Khontrol, it's simply a place for sysops to discuss what they want to discuss with other sysops.
It's a BBS thing ... I run a node and an editor, sysops can link in if they desire...
Not wanting to mention zones but BBS-ing is not core anymore to operations here. One time I had one and then I lost interest, it was just more of what already available elsewhere.
How's the snow?
\%/@rd
Nigel Reed wrote to All <=-
And let's not focus too much on JamNNTP alone ... there's also the Telegram-platform that no-one worries about ...
I find it rather interesting how all these technologies bind together.
I was against Telegram integration to start with and I still
can't say I'm happy with it, but then again, I don't use the
echoes that are connected to it, so in the end it really doesn't matter.
I kind of half-watch an echo with Telegram participants, and it's a
complete and utter clusterf**k. Effectively not readable due to format mangling, lack of quoting, and general stupidity.
... Sometimes you get the elevator, and sometimes you get the shaft.
=== MultiMail/Linux v0.52
August Abolins wrote to Dan Clough <=-
complete and utter clusterf**k. Effectively not readable
due to format mangling, lack of quoting, and general
stupidity.
You keep ignoring the fact that your first instance of a
complaint in LITRGP was based on a quoting issue due to
Aftershock, and not Tg. I agree with your latter point though;
since your participation, stupidity has emerged.
I don't know (or care) what Aftershock is, and either way, whether it's
that or TG, or both, the end result is: The echo is trashed and
basically un-useable by those using "traditional" Fidonet software /
message reading tools. Your claim that I'm stupid is just sour grapes
at being called out on it. Anyone can see that I'm telling the truth by simply trying to read messages in that group. It's that simple,
simpleton.
... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly
=== MultiMail/Linux v0.52
Dan, can you tell me why my ASIAN_LINK never had that? We were in the first
few, and we welcome Telegram users. There have been no issues otherthan a few
*early* ones that caused odd tear lines. They did not affectoperations and
were quickly patched by Stas.
Some areas had them. LA was one of them. The NC required a sysop 'point' for 2 years. I was south of it in net202 and happily doing boss node for 5 or 6 at a time then helping them apply. Brenda Donvan was NC202 and happy to accecpt the new nodes applying with my point address as she knew they were functional with minimal hub assist needed.
Here's a new one! WE went solar. I am told in my southerly location, it will have just enough heat to melt snow off the panels.
My system won't totally power the house year long but it will power the BBS machines and about 51% of our total use during the year.
John Dovey wrote to Carol Shenkenberger <=-
Dan, can you tell me why my ASIAN_LINK never had that? We were in the first
few, and we welcome Telegram users. There have been no issues otherthan a few
*early* ones that caused odd tear lines. They did not affectoperations and
were quickly patched by Stas.
Ignore Dan. He's been irrational on the issue of LitRPG in
general and latched onto the "but it's Telegram" argument. He
continues to claim things as true which are false, in fact which
are demonstrably the opposite to what he claims, on numerous
occasions. Don't waste any time or energy on him, just delete and
move on.
Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Re: Re: Bad behaviour not wanted.
By: Dan Clough to August Abolins on Thu Nov 17 2022 07:54 am
complete and utter clusterf**k. Effectively not readable
due to format mangling, lack of quoting, and general
stupidity.
You keep ignoring the fact that your first instance of a
complaint in LITRGP was based on a quoting issue due to
Aftershock, and not Tg. I agree with your latter point though;
since your participation, stupidity has emerged.
I don't know (or care) what Aftershock is, and either way, whether it's
that or TG, or both, the end result is: The echo is trashed and
basically un-useable by those using "traditional" Fidonet software /
message reading tools. Your claim that I'm stupid is just sour grapes
at being called out on it. Anyone can see that I'm telling the truth by simply trying to read messages in that group. It's that simple,
simpleton.
Dan, can you tell me why my ASIAN_LINK never had that? We were
in the first few, and we welcome Telegram users. There have been
no issues otherthan a few *early* ones that caused odd tear
lines. They did not affectoperations and were quickly patched by
Stas.
I live in a house with 2 kids who leave lights on consistently. My BBS, running on an old laptop, is a rounding error in my electrical bill.running the bbs on a gaming computer can be costly.
It's nice to fly under the radar. :)
Matt Munson wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
I live in a house with 2 kids who leave lights on consistently. My BBS, running on an old laptop, is a rounding error in my electrical bill.
It's nice to fly under the radar. :)
running the bbs on a gaming computer can be costly.
It's not about zones really. It's about people who are reactive. Reactive to insults or percieved ones.
Well, people need to chill the f*k down. It's a hobby. People do it forYes, we should try our best not to scare people off.
the enjoyment. It's a dying hobby, nodes are doing down all the time.
Re: Re: Bad behaviour not wanted.
By: Carol Shenkenberger to Nigel Reed on Sun Dec 11 2022 13:56:32
It's not about zones really. It's about people who are reactive. Reactive
to insults or percieved ones.
Well, people need to chill the f*k down. It's a hobby. People do it for the enjoyment. It's a dying hobby, nodes are doing down all the time. This is not a good way to introduce new sysops into the world of BBSing.
Matt Munson wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
running the bbs on a gaming computer can be costly.
"Irrational"? Haha, that's rich. What I claim is that TG and AS users trash the echos they post in, which is easily verified by just *LOOKING* at the echo with a "normal" mail reader. Mangled quoting, lack of context, lack of quoting, etc.
The troll says what?
GET SOME HEARING AIDS.
The troll says what?
Nick
Agreed. Lee Lofaso is a total troll. Always has been. don't worry to much
about it though, everyone knows it.
...and they have a built-in UPS.
On another benefit, when my power was out for an extended period of time..
Carlos Navarro wrote to Dan Clough <=-
11 dic 2022 18:22, Dan Clough -> John Dovey:
"Irrational"? Haha, that's rich. What I claim is that TG and AS users trash the echos they post in, which is easily verified by just *LOOKING* at the echo with a "normal" mail reader. Mangled quoting, lack of context, lack of quoting, etc.
I am not going to comment about tg_bbs (for now), but just a
clarification about AfterShock: the mangled quoting issue, that
only happened in some cases (if there were useless LF chars in
the replied-to message), was fixed in version 1.6.12.
If you find any other issue related to AfterShock, please let us
know (with an example or some info) so that we can report it to
the developer.
I live in a house with 2 kids who leave lights on consistently. My BBS, running on an old laptop, is a rounding error in my electrical bill. It's nice to fly under the radar. :)
Rob Swindell wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
I live in a house with 2 kids who leave lights on consistently. My BBS, running on an old laptop, is a rounding error in my electrical bill. It's nice to fly under the radar. :)
Not using LED bulbs? :-)
August Abolins wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
...and they have a built-in UPS.
But it's getting increasingly expensive to replace oem
batteries from ancient laptops.
On another benefit, when my power was out for an extended period of time..
Wow. Dedication, or desperation? :D Resourcefulness for
sure!
Well it sure is good that you can at least *acknowledge* that there was
an issue, and I thank you for looking into that and getting it
corrected.
I have to wonder if some of the other folks in this thread
are seeing your messages, since they seem to think I'm "irrational"
about pointing it out; or, even more strangely, can't see it for themselves.
August Abolins wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Well it sure is good that you can at least *acknowledge* that there was
an issue, and I thank you for looking into that and getting it
corrected.
At least Carlos did something constructive. All you did was
chirp like Chicken Little and wanted all smartphone usage to
stop.
I have to wonder if some of the other folks in this thread
are seeing your messages, since they seem to think I'm "irrational"
about pointing it out; or, even more strangely, can't see it for themselves.
Your rant did come across as irrational and unsupported. ;)
I have to wonder if some of the other folks in this thread
are seeing your messages, since they seem to think I'm "irrational" AA>DC> about pointing it out; or, even more strangely, can't see it for
themselves.
Your rant did come across as irrational and unsupported. ;)
My chirping was what brought the issue to light, so it could be
corrected. I'd call that constructive, too, even if you didn't
personally like it. That's *your* problem.
Your rant did come across as irrational and unsupported. ;)
So, you're saying that a problem which was pointed out, and subsequently corrected, was "irrational and unsupported". Right. That makes a lot
of sense. Sure.
..You all just didn't want to admit there was an issue for
reasons which escape me. Let me know if you have a better
explanation, and if not..... STFU.
Well it sure is good that you can at least *acknowledge* that there was an issue, and I thank you for looking into that and getting it
corrected. I have to wonder if some of the other folks in this thread are seeing your messages, since they seem to think I'm "irrational"
about pointing it out; or, even more strangely, can't see it for themselves.
Yeah, I'm talking about you, John Dovey.
John Dovey wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Well it sure is good that you can at least *acknowledge* that there was
an issue, and I thank you for looking into that and getting it
corrected. I have to wonder if some of the other folks in this thread
are seeing your messages, since they seem to think I'm "irrational"
about pointing it out; or, even more strangely, can't see it for themselves.
Yeah, I'm talking about you, John Dovey.
When we were exploring the reasons and extent of the problem,
you insisted on more than one occasion that it was "proof" of the
TG gateway being at fault, so yes.
I stand by my irrational comment.
GFY
Meanwhile the user with the initials RF on your system still
continues to use a non-initial quote setting on YOUR system and
that counters to one of your complaints that some messages in
LITRPG didn't have "proper quoting". And THAT problem is
originating at your system. ;)
Well it sure is good that you can at least *acknowledge* that there
was an issue, and I thank you for looking into that and getting it
corrected.
I have to wonder if some of the other folks in this
thread are seeing your messages, since they seem to think I'm
"irrational" about pointing it out; or, even more strangely, can't see
it for themselves.
If you find any other issue related to AfterShock, please let us
know (with an example or some info) so that we can report it to
the developer.
I will do that.
"Irrational"? Haha, that's rich. What I claim is that TG and AS=== /Cut ===
=== /Cut ==="Irrational"? Haha, that's rich. What I claim is that TG and AS
Carlos Navarro wrote to Dan Clough <=-
13 Dec 2022 20:56, you wrote to me:
Well it sure is good that you can at least *acknowledge* that there
was an issue, and I thank you for looking into that and getting it
corrected.
You're welcome. Just trying to help improve it now that its
developer is working on it again after some years.
I have to wonder if some of the other folks in this
thread are seeing your messages, since they seem to think I'm
"irrational" about pointing it out; or, even more strangely, can't see
it for themselves.
I wouldn't say you're "irrational". But I think you're wrong when
you mix AfterShock and tg_BBS as if they were the same thing,
just because both are mostly used on mobile devices.
AfterShock is a "normal" mail reader, a FTN package just like
e.g. FrontDoor/APX or WinPoint, but for Android.
The Telegram BBS/gateway is something completely different thing
that, I agree, has some issues. Some of them can be fixed (I've
reported one recently), but others... not sure.
BTW I've noticed that your editor has issues with quoting: it
doesn't append the ">" to previously quoted text. See your
message, the one I'm replying to:
=== Cut ===
"Irrational"? Haha, that's rich. What I claim is that TG and AS
=== /Cut ===
It should have been:
=== Cut ===
"Irrational"? Haha, that's rich. What I claim is that TG and AS=== /Cut ===
Yeah, I'm talking about you, John Dovey.
When we were exploring the reasons and extent of the problem, you
insisted on more than one occasion that it was "proof" of the TG gateway being at fault, so yes. I stand by my irrational comment.
Carlos Navarro wrote to Dan Clough <=-
=== Cut ===
"Irrational"? Haha, that's rich. What I claim is that TG and AS
=== /Cut ===
It should have been:
=== Cut ===
"Irrational"? Haha, that's rich. What I claim is that TG and AS=== /Cut ===
Since "DC" is "Dan Clough," aren't they both correct?
I am using the latest MultiMail release (or close to it!) and that is
how it applied the quotes to your message... "CN>" is you, and "DC>"
is Dan.
Yes, I see that. It (MultiMail) does do the first quote, but indeed
does not "increment" the quoting on later replies. I will report that
on the git project for this software, and hopefully the author will
take note and correct.
Carlos Navarro wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Yes, I see that. It (MultiMail) does do the first quote, but indeed
does not "increment" the quoting on later replies. I will report that
on the git project for this software, and hopefully the author will
take note and correct.
Great. I just saw you created an issue on the repo. ;-)
Not sure why you'd choose to; old laptops make wonderful BBSes. You can tuekI would love to run it under a raspberry pi. I turn off my monitor and turn off other appliances to neutralize the energy costs in my room.
them in most anywhere, they have good power management, so you can
throttle
it down when idle, and they have a built-in UPS.
Dan, can you tell me why my ASIAN_LINK never had that? We were in the first
few, and we welcome Telegram users. There have been no issues othertha few
*early* ones that caused odd tear lines. They did not affectoperations and
were quickly patched by Stas.
Ignore Dan. He's been irrational on the issue of LitRPG in general and latch onto the "but it's Telegram" argument. He continues to claim things as true which are false, in fact which are demonstrably the opposite to what he clai on numerous occasions. Don't waste any time or energy on him, just delete an move on.
JD
Re: Re: Bad behaviour not wanted.
By: Carol Shenkenberger to Nick Andre on Sun Dec 11 2022 03:01 pm
Some areas had them. LA was one of them. The NC required a sysop 'point' for 2 years. I was south of it in net202 and happily doing boss node for or 6 at a time then helping them apply. Brenda Donvan was NC202 and happ to accecpt the new nodes applying with my point address as she knew they were functional with minimal hub assist needed.
Wow, that's a new one to me!
The San Francisco bay area (net 161 and net 125) back in the day had its sha of power grabs. The NEC not only had a cost recovery program in place, he tr to discourage people from going outside of the net with Planet Connect or ot alternative means ("outing" people who opted out and complaining publicly th doing so would make it difficult to afford the cost recovery program.)
The final straw, if memory serves was that he wanted the net to pay for a fairly high-powered PC and a US Robotics modem, just for handling the mail.
In retrospect, there were probably over 100 nodes or more in the network, an LD was pricey back then.
Re: Re: Bad behaviour not wanted.
By: Carol Shenkenberger to Ward Dossche on Sun Dec 11 2022 04:14 pm
Here's a new one! WE went solar. I am told in my southerly location, it will have just enough heat to melt snow off the panels.
My system won't totally power the house year long but it will power the machines and about 51% of our total use during the year.
I live in a house with 2 kids who leave lights on consistently. My BBS, runn on an old laptop, is a rounding error in my electrical bill. It's nice to fl under the radar. :)
Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
Well, Gas heat (HVAC so electrical blower), my bills are/were about 75$
a month in winter. Right now on sunny days or middling cloudy, I
generate much more than I consume. It was only turned on on 29Nov and this season is pretty cloudy here. Cant really tell but suspect bill
will be 25$ or so? (partial month and only 3 clear days).
Allen Prunty was the last elected moderator of this area. I don't know what has become of him but I don't think he had any probationaryHe is more focused on fighting his cancer battle and his diabetes. I did also offer to pay one of his medications.
sysops hanging around.
When I started my BBS, one of my aims was to be connected to
anything and everything I could. This last month I've dropped a
lot of networks. All of Gerts (Familynet, STN, Linuxnet, Gatornet,
etc), Starnet and Sportsnet shut shop as did combatnet. This is
something I do agree on. There's too many
I was the same way when I started in late '93... early '94. Nowadays
there is too much supply, not enough demand. Its tempting to drop all
of them here.
22 years ago, we had the posters to justify all those othernets. I had like 6-8 from the USA/CAN and 2-3 from the UK back in those glory days.
Nick Andre wrote to Matt Munson <=-
My favourite was watching all the Lord and Tradewars addicts slam my
board exactly at midnight every night to play their turns. Hilarious...
Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Re: Re: Bad behaviour not wanted.
By: Dan Clough to August Abolins on Thu Nov 17 2022 07:54 am
complete and utter clusterf**k. Effectively not readable
due to format mangling, lack of quoting, and general
stupidity.
You keep ignoring the fact that your first instance of a
complaint in LITRGP was based on a quoting issue due to
Aftershock, and not Tg. I agree with your latter point though;
since your participation, stupidity has emerged.
I don't know (or care) what Aftershock is, and either way, whether it's that or TG, or both, the end result is: The echo is trashed and basically un-useable by those using "traditional" Fidonet software / message reading tools. Your claim that I'm stupid is just sour grapes
at being called out on it. Anyone can see that I'm telling the truth by simply trying to read messages in that group. It's that simple, simpleton.
Dan, can you tell me why my ASIAN_LINK never had that? We were
in the first few, and we welcome Telegram users. There have been
no issues otherthan a few *early* ones that caused odd tear
lines. They did not affectoperations and were quickly patched by
Stas.
Have you considered checking/reading echomail more often than once a
month? I've been all through this and don't feel like re-hashing it yet again. Read the complete thread.
... All the easy problems have been solved.
=== MultiMail/Linux v0.52
Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dan Clough <=-
complete and utter clusterf**k. Effectively not readable
due to format mangling, lack of quoting, and general
stupidity.
You keep ignoring the fact that your first instance of a
complaint in LITRGP was based on a quoting issue due to
Aftershock, and not Tg. I agree with your latter point though;
since your participation, stupidity has emerged.
I don't know (or care) what Aftershock is, and either way, whether it's that or TG, or both, the end result is: The echo is trashed and basically un-useable by those using "traditional" Fidonet software / message reading tools. Your claim that I'm stupid is just sour grapes
at being called out on it. Anyone can see that I'm telling the truth by simply trying to read messages in that group. It's that simple, simpleton.
Dan, can you tell me why my ASIAN_LINK never had that? We were
in the first few, and we welcome Telegram users. There have been
no issues otherthan a few *early* ones that caused odd tear
lines. They did not affectoperations and were quickly patched by
Stas.
Have you considered checking/reading echomail more often than once a
month? I've been all through this and don't feel like re-hashing it yet again. Read the complete thread.
Why should I Dan?
If you can't explain it, then it never happened.
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