• Re: Linux beta

    From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Paul Quinn on Wed Aug 9 11:24:57 2017
    Hi Paul,

    On 2017-08-09 19:00:35, you wrote to me:

    I'll try building a statically linked binary again first. Maybe just
    ftools as that would be more simple as a test case...

    Hold that thought, mate. I have in mind to try something else in an hour or two but am stuck on this netbook. Be back soon...

    I won't be trying that anyway, for at least 6 to 7 hours, when I'm home again in the evening! ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/384 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Wed Aug 9 19:30:00 2017
    Hi! Wilfred,

    In a msg of Wed, 09 Aug 17, I wrote to you:


    I'll try building a statically linked binary again
    first. Maybe just ftools as that would be more simple
    as a test case...

    Hold that thought, mate. I have in mind to try something
    else in an hour or two but am stuck on this netbook. Be
    back soon...

    Just tried another host and both binaries worked! Ftools even complained about
    there being no Fmail.cfg, and was 'active' for exactly 0.0020 seconds. Thank you. Now to flesh out a plan 'B'. ;-)

    Am trying to deal with cold pizza...

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    --- Paul's Win98SE VirtualBox
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Paul Quinn on Wed Aug 9 11:34:10 2017
    Hi Paul,

    On 2017-08-09 19:30:00, you wrote to me:

    Hold that thought, mate. I have in mind to try something
    else in an hour or two but am stuck on this netbook. Be
    back soon...

    Just tried another host and both binaries worked! Ftools even complained about there being no Fmail.cfg, and was 'active' for exactly 0.0020 seconds. Thank you. Now to flesh out a plan 'B'. ;-)

    I'm going to send you the static test build of ftools anyway, later today. Because I would really like to know it that would work on more machines out of the box...

    Am trying to deal with cold pizza...

    Just nuke it! ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.

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    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/384 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Wed Aug 9 19:48:00 2017
    Hi! Wilfred,

    On Wed, 09 Aug 17, you wrote to me:

    I'm going to send you the static test build of ftools
    anyway, later today. Because I would really like to know
    it that would work on more machines out of the box...

    Groovy. More input... mmm, reminds me of a movie.

    Am trying to deal with cold pizza...

    Just nuke it! ;)

    I did! But all this typing is stopping me from finishing it all off, and the keyboard's getting all clagged with tomato paste. (Bear in mind that it is the
    depth of winter here: just barely 10C!) Oh, woe is me...

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    --- Paul's Win98SE VirtualBox
    * Origin: Quinn's Post - Maryborough, Queensland, OZ (3:640/384)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Paul Quinn on Wed Aug 9 11:56:07 2017
    Hi Paul,

    On 2017-08-09 19:48:00, you wrote to me:

    Am trying to deal with cold pizza...

    Just nuke it! ;)

    I did! But all this typing is stopping me from finishing it all off, and the keyboard's getting all clagged with tomato paste. (Bear in mind that it is the depth of winter here: just barely 10C!) Oh, woe is me...

    It's the middle of summer here. But just 18.5C arround noon now. And I like it!
    Much better than the hot days of 25+... ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.

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    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/384 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Wed Aug 9 20:15:00 2017
    Hi! Wilfred,

    On Wed, 09 Aug 17, you wrote to me:

    It's the middle of summer here. But just 18.5C arround
    noon now. And I like it! Much better than the hot days of
    25+... ;)

    It was 18.5C here at 10:00, and 24.7C at 15:00. Beautiful one day, perfect the
    next... they say. :)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    --- Paul's Win98SE VirtualBox
    * Origin: Quinn's Post - Maryborough, Queensland, OZ (3:640/384)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Paul Quinn on Wed Aug 9 18:00:35 2017
    Hi Paul,

    On 2017-08-09 11:34:10, I wrote to you:

    Just tried another host and both binaries worked! Ftools even
    complained about there being no Fmail.cfg, and was 'active' for
    exactly 0.0020 seconds. Thank you. Now to flesh out a plan 'B'. ;-)

    0.0006 on mine ;-P

    I'm going to send you the static test build of ftools anyway, later today. Because I would really like to know it that would work on more machines out of the box...

    Can you test this one:

    http://www.vlzn.nl/fmail/files/FTools-lnx32-static-2.1.0.17-Beta20170809.zip

    If it works I can make an fmail version like this too. But it will lack the smtp function (which nobody uses probably ;))....

    Bye, Wilfred.

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    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/384 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Thu Aug 10 09:52:00 2017
    Hi! Wilfred,

    On Wed, 09 Aug 17, you wrote to me:

    I'm going to send you the static test build of
    ftools anyway, later today. Because I would really
    like to know it that would work on more machines
    out of the box...

    Can you test this one:

    Done! Same complaint... no config. 'Active' for 0.0014 sec. There were still
    2x seti@home jobs chugging 24/7, Firefox, Tux Commander, and an RDP client running this time. No VirtualBox appliances running this time. BTW, this host
    is a stock HP 110-501a; its network name is 'junkpile' after having viewed Carey Holman's unboxing/review of a similar piece of kit on EwwToob, while the box was still in-transit to me. It runs Xubuntu 14.04.3 LTS... at the moment.
    :)

    If it works I can make an fmail version like this too. But
    it will lack the smtp function (which nobody uses probably
    ;))....

    I've had my own for over a decade, which may be 7/10ths of the way into its second.

    You have a winner, me thinks. Congratulations. Thank you.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    --- Paul's Win98SE VirtualBox
    * Origin: Quinn's Post - Maryborough, Queensland, OZ (3:640/384)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464.112 to Paul Quinn on Thu Aug 10 08:39:39 2017
    Hi Paul,

    On 10 Aug 17 09:52, Paul Quinn wrote to Wilfred Van Velzen:
    about: "Re: Linux beta":

    Can you test this one:

    Done! Same complaint... no config. 'Active' for 0.0014 sec.

    But no complaints about libs, so that's good if this was on the machine with the 2.6 kernel were it didn't work before?

    It runs Xubuntu 14.04.3 LTS... at the moment. :)

    That would be at least a 3.13 kernel if I search a bit on the internet...

    If it works I can make an fmail version like this too. But
    it will lack the smtp function (which nobody uses probably
    ;))....

    I've had my own for over a decade, which may be 7/10ths of the way into its second.

    ??

    You have a winner, me thinks. Congratulations. Thank you.

    I'm not sure yet, if you tested on the right machine... ;)

    Wilfred.

    --- FMail-W32 2.0.1.4
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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/384 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Thu Aug 10 20:02:00 2017
    Hi! Wilfred,

    On Thu, 10 Aug 17, you wrote to me:

    Done! Same complaint... no config. 'Active' for
    0.0014 sec.
    But no complaints about libs, so that's good if this was
    on the machine with the 2.6 kernel were it didn't work
    before?

    Oh, that one... 'Kernal too old' & then segfaulted.

    It runs Xubuntu 14.04.3 LTS... at the moment. :)
    That would be at least a 3.13 kernel if I search a bit on
    the internet...

    And I intend it to be the new testbed here. There is one advantage: it has a running binkD. That's it.

    I've had my own for over a decade, which may be
    7/10ths of the way into its second.
    ??

    More than 17 years... Pop3/Smtp server.

    You have a winner, me thinks. Congratulations.
    Thank you.
    I'm not sure yet, if you tested on the right machine... ;)

    Sorry. My focus was on plan 'B', to use this PC.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    --- Paul's Win98SE VirtualBox
    * Origin: Quinn's Post - Maryborough, Queensland, OZ (3:640/384)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Paul Quinn on Thu Aug 10 12:55:37 2017
    Hi Paul,

    On 2017-08-10 20:02:00, you wrote to me:

    Done! Same complaint... no config. 'Active' for
    0.0014 sec.
    But no complaints about libs, so that's good if this was
    on the machine with the 2.6 kernel were it didn't work
    before?

    Oh, that one... 'Kernal too old' & then segfaulted.

    And that is with the ftools static version? If so, that will end my "endeavours" to build a generic linux binary suitable for all systems. ;)

    I've had my own for over a decade, which may be
    7/10ths of the way into its second.
    ??

    More than 17 years... Pop3/Smtp server.

    There is no smtp server in fmail, just a function to send pkt files base64 encoded in emails...


    Bye, Wilfred.

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    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/384 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Thu Aug 10 21:24:00 2017
    Hi! Wilfred,

    On Thu, 10 Aug 17, you wrote to me:

    this was on the machine with the 2.6 kernel were it
    didn't work before?
    Oh, that one... 'Kernal too old' & then segfaulted.

    And that is with the ftools static version?

    Yes.

    If so, that will end my "endeavours" to build a
    generic linux binary suitable for all systems. ;)

    I concur. 8-)

    There is no smtp server in fmail, just a function to send
    pkt files base64 encoded in emails...

    Oh, I have a similar Fidonet solution for that (dunno about encoding level). That's been running for ~15 years. :)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    --- Paul's Win98SE VirtualBox
    * Origin: Quinn's Post - Maryborough, Queensland, OZ (3:640/384)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Paul Quinn on Thu Aug 10 13:47:10 2017
    Hi Paul,

    On 2017-08-10 21:24:00, you wrote to me:

    If so, that will end my "endeavours" to build a
    generic linux binary suitable for all systems. ;)

    I concur. 8-)

    So my time goes into the make files (and debugging possible issues found by Nicolas ;)).

    There is no smtp server in fmail, just a function to send
    pkt files base64 encoded in emails...

    Oh, I have a similar Fidonet solution for that (dunno about encoding level). That's been running for ~15 years. :)

    And you have links that use that? I've never used this function in FMail, so I don't know how well or bad it works...

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.17-B20170711
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/384 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Thu Aug 10 22:39:00 2017
    Hi! Wilfred,

    On Thu, 10 Aug 17, you wrote to me:

    So my time goes into the make files (and debugging
    possible issues found by Nicolas ;)).

    Yep, I'm watching. I'll get to re-configuring things here on the weekend...

    There is no smtp server in fmail, just a function
    to send pkt files base64 encoded in emails...
    Oh, I have a similar Fidonet solution for that (dunno
    about encoding level). That's been running for ~15
    years. :)

    And you have links that use that? I've never used this
    function in FMail, so I don't know how well or bad it
    works...

    I have had many links using it over the years but it gets little to no use these days. But it's more than you're thinking of. It's original purpose is to provide a mailing list<-->echomail gateway, either locally-hosted echomail areas or remote groups. Netmail can be shoved through to email as well, and vice-versa.

    It's called Transnet but is somewhat 'dated', from pre-1998. The distro archive is available via FREQ from -this- node as 'tn211.zip' (minus quotes). I also have the required Windows utils and the sources for the following version (mostly C, C++ and some object files).

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    --- Paul's Win98SE VirtualBox
    * Origin: Quinn's Post - Maryborough, Queensland, OZ (3:640/384)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Paul Quinn on Thu Aug 10 15:22:15 2017
    Hi Paul,

    On 2017-08-10 22:39:00, you wrote to me:

    It's called Transnet but is somewhat 'dated', from pre-1998. The
    distro archive is available via FREQ from -this- node as 'tn211.zip' (minus quotes). I also have the required Windows utils and the
    sources for the following version (mostly C, C++ and some object
    files).

    It does sound a bit familiar. Was/isn't that something that irex could do?

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.17-B20170711
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Aug 11 07:53:14 2017
    Hi! Wilfred,

    On 08/10/2017 11:22 PM, you wrote:

    It's called Transnet but is somewhat 'dated', from pre-1998. The
    distro archive is available via FREQ from -this- node as 'tn211.zip'
    (minus quotes). I also have the required Windows utils and the
    sources for the following version (mostly C, C++ and some object
    files).

    It does sound a bit familiar. Was/isn't that something that irex could
    do?

    I don't know. I couldn't get iRex to run. (Which I count as a +plus+, BTW.) A close approximation could be Soupgate, though I've never used it either.

    But, no-no, no. I must have had a brain-fart that late last night; I went off at a tangent that wasn't related to your Fmail function at all. I've just now twigged to what you were talking about...

    Yes, I was doing similar back around the turn of the century when I was still only on dial-up, and had a point operator living in Halle, Germany. :) I think I was using a package called 'Fido 2 Internet', which encoded packets into email and decoded incoming emails back into echomail packets. (With the POP3/SMTP server I could dedicate an email address to that function.)

    I think I still have the archive (FREQ-able as fd2i101.rar on my other node) but I can't open .RARs from this netbook, and I'm not getting out of bed for anyone to check it right now. ;-)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464.112 to Paul Quinn on Fri Aug 11 13:08:13 2017
    Hi Paul,

    On 11 Aug 17 07:53, Paul Quinn wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
    about: "Linux beta":

    It's called Transnet but is somewhat 'dated', from pre-1998. The
    distro archive is available via FREQ from -this- node as 'tn211.zip'
    (minus quotes). I also have the required Windows utils and the
    sources for the following version (mostly C, C++ and some object
    files).

    It does sound a bit familiar. Was/isn't that something that irex
    could do?

    I don't know. I couldn't get iRex to run. (Which I count as a +plus+, BTW.)

    It is a long time ago, since I used irex, so it's very possible I'm wrong. ;)

    Wilfred.

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