• FastEcho

    From Paul Quinn@3:640/384 to Marcin Gondek on Wed Jun 20 14:11:26 2001
    Hi! Marcin,

    On 20 Jun 01 09:40, Marcin Gondek wrote to All:

    Is still FastEcho under development?

    No. We are here to help, though. What needs fixing? :)

    \\UTOPIA has been up for: 2 day(s), 23 hour(s), 42 minute(s), 20
    ^^
    Do you have a util program to do this 'up time' output? I'd like to get a hold
    of one, as every time I see some dweeb who runs OS/2 or *nix quoting theirs it pisses me off totally. As a routine weekly thing here, I re-start my little Win95 network; today's 'up time' before the re-start was over 10 days (I was a little slow this week).

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Simon Avery@2:255/90 to Marcin Gondek on Wed Jun 20 11:44:22 2001
    Marcin Gondek on 20 Jun 01 in FE_HELP

    Hello Marcin

    Is still FastEcho under development?

    No development since 1997.

    --
    Simon
    Dartmoor, England

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  • From Marcin Gondek@2:480/128 to All on Wed Jun 20 02:40:40 2001
    Sveiki All!

    Is still FastEcho under development?

    ____________________________________________________________
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  • From Marcin Gondek@2:480/128 to Paul Quinn on Thu Jun 21 01:32:29 2001
    Sveiki Paul!

    Wednesday June 20 2001 21:11, you wrote to me:

    Is still FastEcho under development?
    No. We are here to help, though. What needs fixing? :)

    Nothing, but the prices are the same?

    Do you have a util program to do this 'up time' output? I'd like to
    get a hold of one, as every time I see some dweeb who runs OS/2 or
    *nix quoting theirs it pisses me off totally. As a routine weekly
    thing here, I re-start my little Win95 network; today's 'up time'
    before the re-start was over 10 days (I was a little slow this week).

    I sent reply via netmail.
    ____________________________________________________________
    [ Marcin Gondek / Drixter ][ REC 48 ][ drixter@metech.com.pl ]
    [ 2:48/911@FidoNet ][ Utopia Mail System ][ ICQ UIN 99230394 ]

    \\UTOPIA has been up for: 3 day(s), 22 hour(s), 30 minute(s), 18 second(s)
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to all on Mon Jun 25 04:59:04 2001
    Is still FastEcho under development?
    No. We are here to help, though. What needs fixing? :)
    Nothing, but the prices are the same?

    I don't know about prices; I bought my FE back in November
    1995. I'm not even sure whether you can get it registered
    today.<shrug>

    Recommend you netmail Mark Lewis at 1:3634/12. He may be able
    to give you a lead on who to ask about registering FE. (If
    you're real lucky, he might read this & reply. :)

    wow... been quite a while since anyone's asked about registering FE... i seem to recall that one can still send the info/stuff to tobias and register directly with him... i'll try to flash a message to him and inquire further...

    )\/(ark


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  • From Frank Vest@1:124/6308.1 to mark lewis on Mon Jun 25 05:55:52 2001
    On (25 Jun 01) mark lewis wrote to all...

    Hello mark,


    Is still FastEcho under development?
    No. We are here to help, though. What needs fixing? :)
    Nothing, but the prices are the same?

    I don't know about prices; I bought my FE back in November
    1995. I'm not even sure whether you can get it registered
    today.<shrug>

    Recommend you netmail Mark Lewis at 1:3634/12. He may be able
    to give you a lead on who to ask about registering FE. (If
    you're real lucky, he might read this & reply. :)

    wow... been quite a while since anyone's asked about registering FE...
    i seem to recall that one can still send the info/stuff to tobias and register directly with him... i'll try to flash a message to him and inquire further...

    I registered mine through the Frontdoor site. "defsol.com"?? Mats was
    very helpfull in the process. :)

    Frank

    http://texoma.net/~flv
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Frank Vest on Mon Jun 25 23:26:50 2001
    I don't know about prices; I bought my FE back in November
    1995. I'm not even sure whether you can get it registered
    today.<shrug>

    Recommend you netmail Mark Lewis at 1:3634/12. He may be able
    to give you a lead on who to ask about registering FE. (If
    you're real lucky, he might read this & reply. :)

    wow... been quite a while since anyone's asked about registering FE...
    i seem to recall that one can still send the info/stuff to tobias and
    register directly with him... i'll try to flash a message to him and
    inquire further...

    I registered mine through the Frontdoor site. "defsol.com"??
    Mats was very helpfull in the process. :)

    right! right! i had forgotten that mats and joho are a registration site... as far as i'm aware, they do still accept registration fees for fastecho...

    )\/(ark


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  • From Phil Kimble@1:128/2 to All on Mon Aug 8 14:25:54 2011
    Hello,

    Is there anybody out there? I am having an issue importing an echolist on 1.46 & 1.46.1. Any words??



    Regards,
    Phil
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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/384 to Phil Kimble on Tue Aug 9 08:51:00 2011
    Hi! Phil,

    In a message to All you wrote:

    Is there anybody out there? I am having an issue importing an
    echolist on 1.46 & 1.46.1. Any words??

    Show us yer legs... ermm, logs. ;-)

    Frankly it's been so l-o-n-g since I last used that function that when I saw your question I thought that the operation was impossible. Thanks for reminding me.

    Here's what the manual says on the matter...

    -----8<-----C-U-T--H-E-R-E----->8-----
    FESetup -IE<File> [-O]

    This switch is provided in order to simplify the operation of
    import the EchoMail area description from a standard fidonet echo area
    descriptions called Echolist (FIDONET.NA). You can do the same opera-
    tion internally, by means of the "Import" DropDown-menu. If used in
    conjunction with the -O switch, the already-existent description pre-
    sents in FastEcho.cfg will be automatically overwritten. I.E. assuming
    that you want automatic import in your FastEcho configuration the
    description present in standard file FIDONET.NA overwriting all the
    existing descriptions, you have to layout the following command:

    FESetup -IEFIDONET.NA -O

    Note that there isn't -any space- between the -IE switch and the file-
    name FIDONET.NA (that's mandatory).
    -----8<-----C-U-T--H-E-R-E----->8-----

    What's -not- happening, Phil?

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Phil Kimble@1:128/2 to Paul Quinn on Tue Aug 9 13:00:52 2011
    Paul Quinn wrote to Phil Kimble:
    Hi! Phil,

    Hi Paul!! Thansk for the fast response.

    Show us yer legs... ermm, logs. ;-)

    Only for a pint of yer finest ale!


    Frankly it's been so l-o-n-g since I last used that function that when I saw your question I thought that the operation was impossible. Thanks for reminding me.

    Here's what the manual says on the matter...

    Read it, performed it, as a command on the command line & drop-down menu. Exported the existing areas to research format & no luck.

    What's -not- happening, Phil?

    It no workie-workie. The fidonet.na file exists in the \FE directory & when I atempt to import it regardless of method, it reports "0 descriptions imported".
    It fails to create the areas or import descriptions.

    So before I trudge through the manual creation of 300 echo areas, I would like to investigate to see if anyone else has the same problem & possible solution.




    Regards,
    Phil
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  • From Phil Kimble@1:128/2 to Paul Quinn on Tue Aug 9 13:06:42 2011
    Paul Quinn wrote to Phil Kimble:

    -----8<-----C-U-T--H-E-R-E----->8-----
    FESetup -IE<File> [-O]

    This switch is provided in order to simplify the operation of
    import the EchoMail area description from a standard fidonet echo area
    descriptions called Echolist (FIDONET.NA). You can do the same
    -----8<-----C-U-T--H-E-R-E----->8-----

    Is this to say it wont import the echolist & 'automagically' create the areas? In other words, I have to create the areas & this will only import the descriptions?

    I havent used FastEcho since about 1996 so I am a little foggy... More than noral, that is.

    m

    Regards,
    Phil
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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/384 to Phil Kimble on Wed Aug 10 09:18:00 2011
    Hi! Phil,

    On Tue, 09 Aug 11, you wrote to me:

    FESetup -IE<File> [-O]

    Is this to say it wont import the echolist & 'automagically' create
    the areas? In other words, I have to create the areas & this will
    only import the descriptions?

    That's probably true. Though the import of an Areas.Bbs file looks promising as a way to actually create the areas. It looks to be a two-step process to auto-create areas: import Areas.Bbs, then import the echolist.

    You still have the option to have an _uplink_ (in FEsetup) send you new echoes with the auto-create option set, so that areas are created as traffic for those
    areas comes through. You can always generate traffic by sending an areafix "rescan" netmail to the uplink. Later, as a second step, then import the echolist/backbone.na descriptions.

    The second method works. I'm not sure of the Areas.Bbs & echolist import thingamajig.

    I havent used FastEcho since about 1996 so I am a little foggy...
    More than normal, that is.

    I'm having the same trouble (remembering), Phil; my config started in mid-94, as a point. BTW, I was feeling brave (haven't finished my first coffee) when I
    read your replies, and did an import using the (FEsetup) menu option with the latest Backbone.Na file: "124 descriptions imported" fine. There's a lot of areas that still don't have descriptions in them but at the least the existing ones weren't harmed.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Phil Kimble on Mon Aug 15 13:07:33 2011

    Is there anybody out there? I am having an issue importing an
    echolist on 1.46 & 1.46.1. Any words??

    importing an echolist? what problems?

    )\/(ark
    member, FastEcho Beta Team


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  • From Phil Kimble@1:128/2 to mark lewis on Sun Aug 21 22:54:41 2011
    mark lewis wrote to Phil Kimble:

    Is there anybody out there? I am having an issue importing an
    echolist on 1.46 & 1.46.1. Any words??

    importing an echolist? what problems?

    I wouldnt call it a problem with FE as much as it is my misunderstanding of the
    import function. Under FE, the import echlist only imports the descriptions. It does not import the areas & auto-create them based on a templatte area.

    Using Paul's recommendation & some testing to re-learn how it really does work,
    I use my mail hub to import & auto-create the message areas. Them import the echolist to populate the descriptions. Works pretty well.



    Regards,
    Phil
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Phil Kimble on Mon Aug 22 09:59:16 2011

    mark lewis wrote to Phil Kimble:

    Is there anybody out there? I am having an issue importing an
    echolist on 1.46 & 1.46.1. Any words??

    importing an echolist? what problems?

    I wouldnt call it a problem with FE as much as it is my
    misunderstanding of the import function. Under FE, the import
    echlist only imports the descriptions. It does not import the
    areas & auto-create them based on a templatte area.

    ahhh, yes... this is correct... bringing in the areatags is done by importing an areas.bbs, IIRC... but a long long long time ago, i found it easier to allow
    FE to automatically add areas from my main feed(s) which are seperated by groups... then, if i want to pull the descriptions in, i can... however, i've also found that the descriptions leave a bit to be desired so i basically use only the areatag any more...

    for example, i can now tell when i'm in COFFEE_KLATSCH instead of trying to figure out what area "Gossip and chit-chat echo" represents... especially when CHATTER ("Mindless Chatter Conference") and MEMORIES ("NOSTALGIA") exist and carry similar traffic... well, CHATTER really does carry "mindless" chit-chat ;) it always takes me a minute to remember that the description "NOSTALGIA" is
    the MEMORIES echo...

    Using Paul's recommendation & some testing to re-learn how it
    really does work, I use my mail hub to import & auto-create the
    message areas. Them import the echolist to populate the
    descriptions. Works pretty well.

    yup... and then you get those areas with long descriptions and some tools that use them (ie: sysop message reader, BBS areas that are imported in the same way) chop off the descriptions because they have a 45 character limit or such... all in all, it is a decent idea and it was fulfilled by authors at the requests of their customers but somewhere along the lines, someone forgot to create some type of spec document for everyone (ie code authors and echoarea moderators) to follow so that no descriptions were too long ;)

    )\/(ark
    member, FastEcho Beta Team


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  • From Zazz@1:124/5014 to All on Tue Jul 16 18:03:55 2019
    I've configured FastEcho I think as it should be but I keep getting this
    error message when I run fastecho scan.

    "Can't export message in area FIDOTEST without active downlinks."

    I went to node configuration and entered info for my uplink, But I will not have any downlinks.

    Any help and is this still registerable?

    Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
    Mystic Prison Board Sysop
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Zazz on Wed Jul 17 14:32:00 2019

    On 2019 Jul 16 18:03:54, you wrote to All:

    "Can't export message in area FIDOTEST without active downlinks."

    I went to node configuration and entered info for my uplink, But I will
    not
    have any downlinks.

    a link is both up and down... you must have at least one system linked... generally this will be the one link you get your mail for the area from... thus
    "downlink" since you are "down stream" from them...

    Any help and is this still registerable?

    yes... fill out the application form and send it to toby...

    https://www.softeq.de/old/Products/FastEcho/fastecho.html

    use the author link at the top of the page in the first paragraph... he does have a fidonet address but the web/email will likely work better/faster...

    )\/(ark

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    so amazingly intelligent that even before its data banks had been connected
    up it had started from "I think therefore I am" and got as far as deducing
    the existence of rice pudding and income tax before anyone managed to turn
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  • From Zazz@1:124/5014 to mark lewis on Thu Jul 18 18:24:00 2019
    a link is both up and down... you must have at least one system linked... generally this will be the one link you get your mail for the area
    from... thus "downlink" since you are "down stream" from them...


    Found out where to link messages to the uplink so traffic is flowing.

    yes... fill out the application form and send it to toby...

    https://www.softeq.de/old/Products/FastEcho/fastecho.html

    use the author link at the top of the page in the first paragraph... he does have a fidonet address but the web/email will likely work better/faster...


    Well I did email, a couple of times, been a few days, but I didn't send in
    the application so I'll do that now.

    Thanks

    Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
    Mystic Prison Board Sysop
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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:116/18 to Zazz on Fri Jan 10 23:53:04 2020
    Zazz wrote to All <=-

    I've configured FastEcho I think as it should be but I keep getting
    this error message when I run fastecho scan.

    "Can't export message in area FIDOTEST without active downlinks."

    I went to node configuration and entered info for my uplink, But I will not have any downlinks.

    Any help and is this still registerable?

    I believe you should still be able to get a free key for it by emailing
    the author. Also, you need to go into the FIDOTEST echo configuration
    and make sure you have at least one node listed in (I believe) the
    "Export To" section of the echo area entry form.

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