• Re: Interfacing FD with

    From Robert Wolfe@1:116/17 to Ib Joe on Mon Sep 25 17:33:00 2017
    IB JOE wrote to Paul Hayton <=-

    As it stands now there is no way, that I know of, to send a user to the BBS via DOS version of FD.

    On the mailer side there might be a way. I see JoHo, the author of FD responded back to you... I'd have to go through what he was saying to respond back... it could be done... This is what I do....

    [...]

    The simplest way to do this is use some of the mailers out there that support BSO... FD does not currently do this without some work. If you used the windows version of Binkleyterm it'll work juat fine... With
    the use of sexpots, a program Digital Man wrote, you can have users
    access the BBS via that dialup line.

    Why not build in the exact same functionality directly into Mystic BBS
    itself? Would that not be easier?

    ... Ura Montanan if you set up your hunting tent in your driveway.
    ___ MultiMail/CYGWIN_NT-6.1 v0.50

    --- Maximus/2 3.01
    * Origin: Neptune's Lair * Olive Branch, MS * os2bbs.org (1:116/17)
  • From Joaquim Homrighausen@2:20/4609 to Robert Wolfe on Tue Sep 26 01:42:00 2017
    The simplest way to do this is use some of the mailers out there that
    support BSO... FD does not currently do this without some work. If you
    used the windows version of Binkleyterm it'll work juat fine... With
    the use of sexpots, a program Digital Man wrote, you can have users
    access the BBS via that dialup line.

    Why not build in the exact same functionality directly into
    Mystic BBS itself? Would that not be easier?

    BSO being ... static ... something?



    -joho

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:116/17 to Ib Joe on Mon Sep 25 17:33:00 2017
    IB JOE wrote to Paul Hayton <=-

    As it stands now there is no way, that I know of, to send a user to the BBS via DOS version of FD.

    On the mailer side there might be a way. I see JoHo, the author of FD responded back to you... I'd have to go through what he was saying to respond back... it could be done... This is what I do....

    [...]

    The simplest way to do this is use some of the mailers out there that support BSO... FD does not currently do this without some work. If you used the windows version of Binkleyterm it'll work juat fine... With
    the use of sexpots, a program Digital Man wrote, you can have users
    access the BBS via that dialup line.

    Why not build in the exact same functionality directly into Mystic BBS
    itself? Would that not be easier?

    ... Ura Montanan if you set up your hunting tent in your driveway.
    ___ MultiMail/CYGWIN_NT-6.1 v0.50

    --- Maximus/2 3.01
    * Origin: Neptune's Lair * Olive Branch, MS * os2bbs.org (1:116/17)
  • From IB JOE@1:342/200 to Robert Wolfe on Mon Sep 25 18:39:20 2017
    On 09/25/17, Robert Wolfe said the following...
    Why not build in the exact same functionality directly into Mystic BBS itself? Would that not be easier?

    ... Ura Montanan if you set up your hunting tent in your driveway.
    ___ MultiMail/CYGWIN_NT-6.1 v0.50

    I am not sure what JoHo has in his plans for FD. I like FD abd run it on one of my addresses. There are some limitatiions to all this though. FD only comes in DOS or OS2. If Sexpots came in an OS2 flovor I'd have people call
    the mailer and transfer out to the BBS... As it stands now it doesn't do that.

    I'm not a programmer, or do I play one on TV, but the solutions seems simple enough. FD needs to come in other flavors, windows or linux, and all it
    needs to do is handle fileboxes for some of it's outgoing mail. If it's a modem, or vmodem, call it makes it. If its a binkp call then binkd makes it.

    fmail can toss mail real nice as file attach or filesboxes. It wouldn't take much effort to make things work, on the mail side anyway.

    If what I read is correct.... the challange is to get the vmodem side to work... not sure where I read that.

    Fingers crossed... excied to see what comes of it.

    IB JOE
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's Computer & BBS
    Telnet: joesbbs.com

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Joe's Computer & BBS -=joesbbs.com=- (1:342/200)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Joaquim Homrighausen on Tue Sep 26 12:28:48 2017
    On 2017 Sep 26 01:42:00, you wrote to Robert Wolfe:

    The simplest way to do this is use some of the mailers out there
    that support BSO... FD does not currently do this without some work.
    If you used the windows version of Binkleyterm it'll work juat
    fine... With the use of sexpots, a program Digital Man wrote, you
    can have users access the BBS via that dialup line.

    Why not build in the exact same functionality directly into Mystic
    BBS itself? Would that not be easier?

    BSO being ... static ... something?

    Binkley Style Outbound

    but, yes, it is static unless one's has a mean to twiggle the files' names to change their placement and/or extensions... Bonk and SonOfBonk come to mind...

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
    ... Insanity: Doing same thing over & over & expecting different results.
    ---
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  • From Joaquim Homrighausen@2:20/4609 to IB JOE on Tue Sep 26 21:46:00 2017
    I'm not a programmer, or do I play one on TV, but the solutions
    seems simple enough. FD needs to come in other flavors, windows
    or linux, and all it needs to do is handle fileboxes for some
    of it's outgoing mail. If it's a modem, or vmodem, call it makes
    it. If its a binkp call then binkd makes it.

    I'm not sure what this "Fileboxes" is, but if it's anything FrontDoor's Spool Directories, then FD already handles it, but perhaps it handles it differently than "Fileboxes".

    As for FD for other platforms than DOS and OS/2, yes, that is the direction I'm
    trying to move in. But there's a lot of work involved in porting the base layer
    of the application.

    I'm on it.


    -joho

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  • From Joaquim Homrighausen@2:20/4609 to mark lewis on Tue Sep 26 21:55:02 2017

    The simplest way to do this is use some of the mailers out there
    that support BSO... FD does not currently do this without some work.
    If you used the windows version of Binkleyterm it'll work juat
    fine... With the use of sexpots, a program Digital Man wrote, you
    can have users access the BBS via that dialup line.

    Why not build in the exact same functionality directly into Mystic
    BBS itself? Would that not be easier?

    BSO being ... static ... something?

    Binkley Style Outbound

    but, yes, it is static unless one's has a mean to twiggle the
    files' names to change their placement and/or extensions... Bonk
    and SonOfBonk come to mind...

    Well, the FrontDoor STQ is certainly static, and supports Spool Directories, so
    ... :)


    -joho

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Joaquim Homrighausen on Tue Sep 26 17:13:14 2017

    On 2017 Sep 26 21:46:00, you wrote to IB JOE:

    I'm not a programmer, or do I play one on TV, but the solutions
    seems simple enough. FD needs to come in other flavors, windows
    or linux, and all it needs to do is handle fileboxes for some
    of it's outgoing mail. If it's a modem, or vmodem, call it makes
    it. If its a binkp call then binkd makes it.

    I'm not sure what this "Fileboxes" is, but if it's anything FrontDoor's Spool Directories, then FD already handles it, but perhaps it handles it differently than "Fileboxes".

    yes, fileboxes are the same as spool directories... anything you drop in them is automajikally flicked over the wall and appears in the destination system's inbound...

    now the question is if i can have FD and binkd both working with the same filebox/spool directories so that mail can be picked up by either method... i've been keeping them split and only doing part of my config steps when i add a new telnet connected node... when i add a binkp connected node, i have several more steps to do...

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
    ... Man is the only computer that can be mass produced with unskilled labor. ---
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Joaquim Homrighausen on Tue Sep 26 17:13:14 2017

    On 2017 Sep 26 21:46:00, you wrote to IB JOE:

    I'm not a programmer, or do I play one on TV, but the solutions
    seems simple enough. FD needs to come in other flavors, windows
    or linux, and all it needs to do is handle fileboxes for some
    of it's outgoing mail. If it's a modem, or vmodem, call it makes
    it. If its a binkp call then binkd makes it.

    I'm not sure what this "Fileboxes" is, but if it's anything FrontDoor's Spool Directories, then FD already handles it, but perhaps it handles it differently than "Fileboxes".

    yes, fileboxes are the same as spool directories... anything you drop in them is automajikally flicked over the wall and appears in the destination system's inbound...

    now the question is if i can have FD and binkd both working with the same filebox/spool directories so that mail can be picked up by either method... i've been keeping them split and only doing part of my config steps when i add a new telnet connected node... when i add a binkp connected node, i have several more steps to do...

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
    ... Man is the only computer that can be mass produced with unskilled labor. ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From IB JOE@1:342/200 to Joaquim Homrighausen on Tue Sep 26 15:41:54 2017
    I'm not sure what this "Fileboxes" is, but if it's anything FrontDoor's Spool Directories, then FD already handles it, but perhaps it handles it differently than "Fileboxes".

    I'll explain quickly... easy as pie. With modern internet mailer setup
    Binkd, InterNet Rex, whatever, you can have pre-defined directories assigned
    to a node whereby any files put in that directory will be sent to that node.

    This is an extreemly good feature. Drop any file in there, and the system
    just handles handles it...

    If FD was aware of these directories it would respond in a predetermined way.

    I'm going to resd up on spool directories

    Thanx

    IB JOE
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's Computer & BBS
    Telnet: joesbbs.com

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Joe's Computer & BBS -=joesbbs.com=- (1:342/200)
  • From Joaquim Homrighausen@2:20/4609 to mark lewis on Wed Sep 27 01:50:54 2017
    yes, fileboxes are the same as spool directories... anything you
    drop in them is automajikally flicked over the wall and appears
    in the destination system's inbound...

    Right, or held for pickup (at least in FD's case), depending on the status of the Spool Directory entry in the STQ.

    now the question is if i can have FD and binkd both working with
    the same filebox/spool directories so that mail can be picked up
    by either method... i've been keeping them split and only doing
    part of my config steps when i add a new telnet connected node...
    when i add a binkp connected node, i have several more steps to
    do...

    I can't see why you wouldn't be able to do this. If the files are removed after
    having been successfully transported to the other system, there won't be any "dupes". In FD's case, it will also honor the read-only attribute and not include them. In the event of an error, FD will att the read-only attribute.



    -joho

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  • From Joaquim Homrighausen@2:20/4609 to IB JOE on Wed Sep 27 01:51:48 2017
    I'll explain quickly... easy as pie. With modern internet mailer
    setup Binkd, InterNet Rex, whatever, you can have pre-defined
    directories assigned to a node whereby any files put in that
    directory will be sent to that node.

    Seems like FD must be a modern Internet mailer then :)

    The STQ is full of features, go get them!




    -joho

    ---
    * Origin: reboot.defsol.com (2:20/4609)
  • From IB JOE@1:342/200 to Joaquim Homrighausen on Tue Sep 26 19:48:40 2017
    Seems like FD must be a modern Internet mailer then :)


    I was reading mark's message, one ortwo back, I'm not sure where the configuration effort would be. If a mail tosser like fmail or even Mystic could toss mail into a binkd filebox, for the binkd nodes it could, with no effort, through FD mail into its static queues.

    I'm going to play around with this a little so that I'm up to speed on the topic...

    :)

    IB JOE
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's Computer & BBS
    Telnet: joesbbs.com

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Joe's Computer & BBS -=joesbbs.com=- (1:342/200)
  • From Robert Wolfe@1:116/17 to Ib Joe on Tue Sep 26 20:42:02 2017
    IB JOE wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

    I am not sure what JoHo has in his plans for FD. I like FD abd run it
    on one of my addresses. There are some limitatiions to all this
    though. FD only comes in DOS or OS2. If Sexpots came in an OS2 flovor I'd have people call the mailer and transfer out to the BBS... As it stands now it doesn't do that.

    I don't think sexpots would work anyway, since FD still needs to be
    listening on a com port -- virtual or otherwise.

    I'm not a programmer, or do I play one on TV, but the solutions seems simple enough. FD needs to come in other flavors, windows or linux,
    and all it needs to do is handle fileboxes for some of it's outgoing
    mail. If it's a modem, or vmodem, call it makes it. If its a binkp
    call then binkd makes it.

    I don't see why it would need to come in a Linux "flavor" since most
    Linux based boards these days seem to not have dialup.

    fmail can toss mail real nice as file attach or filesboxes. It
    wouldn't take much effort to make things work, on the mail side anyway.

    Yeah, I prefer FastEcho myself since the fmail author seems to have no
    desire to port it over to OS/2. What language it is written in anyway?

    If what I read is correct.... the challange is to get the vmodem side
    to work... not sure where I read that.

    I can run SEXPOTS on a Windows box all day long and have it telnet to
    FD/2 running on my ArcaOS 5.0.1 Professional VM, but it has to be
    sitting behind a running VMODEM.EXE (in my case, which is part of Ray
    Gwinn's SIO2k).

    Fingers crossed... excied to see what comes of it.

    I am just happy JoHo is back on the scene again :)

    IB JOE
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's Computer & BBS
    Telnet: joesbbs.com

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Joe's Computer & BBS -=joesbbs.com=- (1:342/200)

    ... Disk Failure: (W)arm Boot, (C)old Boot, (S)teel Toe Boot?
    ___ MultiMail/CYGWIN_NT-6.1 v0.50

    --- Maximus/2 3.01
    * Origin: Neptune's Lair * Olive Branch, MS * os2bbs.org (1:116/17)
  • From Robert Wolfe@1:116/17 to Ib Joe on Tue Sep 26 20:42:02 2017
    IB JOE wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

    I am not sure what JoHo has in his plans for FD. I like FD abd run it
    on one of my addresses. There are some limitatiions to all this
    though. FD only comes in DOS or OS2. If Sexpots came in an OS2 flovor I'd have people call the mailer and transfer out to the BBS... As it stands now it doesn't do that.

    I don't think sexpots would work anyway, since FD still needs to be
    listening on a com port -- virtual or otherwise.

    I'm not a programmer, or do I play one on TV, but the solutions seems simple enough. FD needs to come in other flavors, windows or linux,
    and all it needs to do is handle fileboxes for some of it's outgoing
    mail. If it's a modem, or vmodem, call it makes it. If its a binkp
    call then binkd makes it.

    I don't see why it would need to come in a Linux "flavor" since most
    Linux based boards these days seem to not have dialup.

    fmail can toss mail real nice as file attach or filesboxes. It
    wouldn't take much effort to make things work, on the mail side anyway.

    Yeah, I prefer FastEcho myself since the fmail author seems to have no
    desire to port it over to OS/2. What language it is written in anyway?

    If what I read is correct.... the challange is to get the vmodem side
    to work... not sure where I read that.

    I can run SEXPOTS on a Windows box all day long and have it telnet to
    FD/2 running on my ArcaOS 5.0.1 Professional VM, but it has to be
    sitting behind a running VMODEM.EXE (in my case, which is part of Ray
    Gwinn's SIO2k).

    Fingers crossed... excied to see what comes of it.

    I am just happy JoHo is back on the scene again :)

    IB JOE
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's Computer & BBS
    Telnet: joesbbs.com

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Joe's Computer & BBS -=joesbbs.com=- (1:342/200)

    ... Disk Failure: (W)arm Boot, (C)old Boot, (S)teel Toe Boot?
    ___ MultiMail/CYGWIN_NT-6.1 v0.50

    --- Maximus/2 3.01
    * Origin: Neptune's Lair * Olive Branch, MS * os2bbs.org (1:116/17)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Joaquim Homrighausen on Wed Sep 27 08:10:00 2017
    I'll explain quickly... easy as pie. With modern internet mailer
    setup Binkd, InterNet Rex, whatever, you can have pre-defined
    directories assigned to a node whereby any files put in that
    directory will be sent to that node.

    Seems like FD must be a modern Internet mailer then :)

    Then. Not yet. :D

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: * rbb.fidonet.fi * (2:221/360)
  • From Joaquim Homrighausen@2:20/4609 to Tommi Koivula on Wed Sep 27 07:28:48 2017

    I'll explain quickly... easy as pie. With modern internet mailer
    setup Binkd, InterNet Rex, whatever, you can have pre-defined
    directories assigned to a node whereby any files put in that
    directory will be sent to that node.

    Seems like FD must be a modern Internet mailer then :)

    Then. Not yet. :D

    #LOL

    Well, the STQ has been around for a while, and with equal or better flexibility
    it seems. So I guess that part is taken care of anyway.

    And now on to porting ... :)



    -joho

    ---
    * Origin: code.code.code (2:20/4609)
  • From Joaquim Homrighausen@2:20/4609 to Tommi Koivula on Wed Sep 27 07:28:48 2017

    I'll explain quickly... easy as pie. With modern internet mailer
    setup Binkd, InterNet Rex, whatever, you can have pre-defined
    directories assigned to a node whereby any files put in that
    directory will be sent to that node.

    Seems like FD must be a modern Internet mailer then :)

    Then. Not yet. :D

    #LOL

    Well, the STQ has been around for a while, and with equal or better flexibility
    it seems. So I guess that part is taken care of anyway.

    And now on to porting ... :)



    -joho

    ---
    * Origin: code.code.code (2:20/4609)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to mark lewis on Wed Sep 27 08:48:39 2017
    Hi mark,

    On 2017-09-26 17:13:14, you wrote to Joaquim Homrighausen:

    yes, fileboxes are the same as spool directories... anything you drop
    in them is automajikally flicked over the wall and appears in the destination system's inbound...

    now the question is if i can have FD and binkd both working with the same filebox/spool directories so that mail can be picked up by either method...

    The problem with fileboxes is that, file-locking and/or lock-file usage for them is undefined and probably non existent. So the only way to savely use them
    is to use atomic operations when you create files, or even read+delete them. And this should work on all os's and even in mixed environments where for instance a linux and a windows part of a system access the same (network) drive. Atomic operations under these constraints is hard to get right, or maybe
    even impossible under all circumstances! And all software used should be able to do that.

    So I regard fileboxes as a kludge, one should only use as a last resort when nothing else works.

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to IB JOE on Wed Sep 27 09:00:27 2017
    Hi IB,

    On 2017-09-26 19:48:40, you wrote to Joaquim Homrighausen:

    I was reading mark's message, one ortwo back, I'm not sure where the configuration effort would be. If a mail tosser like fmail or even
    Mystic could toss mail into a binkd filebox, for the binkd nodes it could, with no effort, through FD mail into its static queues.

    You can define a filebox in fmail for every configured node. But see my remarks
    to marc. In just a binkd + fmail environment I would strongly advice against using fileboxes!

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Robert Wolfe on Wed Sep 27 09:07:24 2017
    Hi Robert,

    On 2017-09-26 20:42:02, you wrote to Ib Joe:

    Yeah, I prefer FastEcho myself since the fmail author seems to have no desire to port it over to OS/2.

    The last fmail release (1.60 from 2001) by the original author was available in
    os2 flavour (and dos too). But since I have no os2 environment and no development tools and no knowledge of os2, I'm concentrating my efforts on 32/64 bit windows and linux environments...

    What language it is written in anyway?

    It's written in C.

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Sep 27 09:32:04 2017

    It's written in C.

    D-minor would have been so much better.

    \%/@rd

    --- D'Bridge 3.99
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running WinXP (2:292/854)
  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Ward Dossche on Wed Sep 27 07:41:00 2017
    Ward Dossche wrote to Wilfred van Velzen on 09-27-17 09:32 <=-

    It's written in C.

    D-minor would have been so much better.

    You elitist... ;)


    --

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  • From IB JOE@1:342/200 to Robert Wolfe on Wed Sep 27 08:16:18 2017
    On 09/26/17, Robert Wolfe said the following...
    I don't think sexpots would work anyway, since FD still needs to be listening on a com port -- virtual or otherwise.

    Yes it would, if FD wasn't DOS or Sexpots came in an OS2 flavor. Sexpots
    works with any windows mailer... I've played with it... Used Radius I think. It'll load... from the docs
    :start
    o Can run from command prompt or as an NT service
    o Handles modem initialization or "Null modem" connections
    o Supports Telnet (with full option negotiation) or raw TCP connections
    o Can accept "live" COM handles on the command-line (from "front-end" app)
    o Caller-ID (CID) Support
    o Optional Ident server to communicate CID information to TCP Server
    o Telnet options used to communicate baud rate and CID info to TCP server
    o Highly configurable (via sexpots.ini file)
    :Stop
    The 3rd line down... can accept live...

    That's it....

    The user calls the mailer, presses escape twice and it pulls up the commandline for sexpots and telnets the user to the BBS. Just like the old days where the mailer passed the user off to the BBS.

    Again, this cannot be the case with FD because its DOS, and it could/might work with FD/2 but sexpots does not come in that flavor.

    .....

    Read over other aspects of your message... there would be no reason to run sexpots in your case. OS/2 mailer to an OS/2 BBS. U'd just hook a modem up and it would work just fine. The reason why DM made sexpots was because
    his BBS software didnot support a dial up line, or does Mystic for that matter.

    There are ways of getting theese applications to work over the internet. There are several boards running DOS apps through an internet connection... several.

    Anyway, as I see it.... It would be nice if FD would/could have a vmodem setup like it does with ray's os/2 fossil. It would be nice if FD/Win or FD/Lin could answer a modem call and pass a user off to a BBS.

    It would be nice to see mailer-to-mailer calls like in the past...

    BTW, do you have a diap up node with a mailer attached??

    :)

    IB JOE
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's Computer & BBS
    Telnet: joesbbs.com

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Joe's Computer & BBS -=joesbbs.com=- (1:342/200)
  • From IB JOE@1:342/200 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Sep 27 08:28:22 2017
    On 09/27/17, Wilfred van Velzen said the following...
    I was reading mark's message, one ortwo back, I'm not sure where the configuration effort would be. If a mail tosser like fmail or even Mystic could toss mail into a binkd filebox, for the binkd nodes it could, with no effort, through FD mail into its static queues.

    You can define a filebox in fmail for every configured node. But see my remarks to marc. In just a binkd + fmail environment I would strongly advice against using fileboxes!


    This all maybe moot anyway. Most if not all of this conversation is
    revolving around the talks of JoHo developing FD. I think most of the conversation is ahead of the problem... I was thinking most mailer tossers
    have mailer support in them... and I just opened up your package and you've taken that out.... OMG...

    I'll go back and read your message to mark.

    Thanx

    IB JOE
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's Computer & BBS
    Telnet: joesbbs.com

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Joe's Computer & BBS -=joesbbs.com=- (1:342/200)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to IB JOE on Wed Sep 27 17:01:31 2017
    Hi IB,

    On 2017-09-27 08:28:22, you wrote to me:

    I was thinking most mailer tossers have mailer support in them... and
    I just opened up your package and you've taken that out.... OMG...

    I've taken what out? ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From IB JOE@1:342/200 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Sep 27 09:58:36 2017
    On 2017-09-27 08:28:22, you wrote to me:

    I was thinking most mailer tossers have mailer support in them... and I just opened up your package and you've taken that out.... OMG...

    I've taken what out? ;)

    mailer/FD support. I downloaded fmail and looked up mailer support... I know it was in the old version...

    Anyway, most of what we are talking about is ahead of everything. Let JoHo develop FD and see how her works around the current challenges.
    :)

    IB JOE
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's Computer & BBS
    Telnet: joesbbs.com

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to IB JOE on Wed Sep 27 18:30:32 2017
    Hi IB,

    On 2017-09-27 09:58:36, you wrote to me:

    mailer/FD support. I downloaded fmail and looked up mailer support...
    I know it was in the old version...

    Then you didn't look hard enough! Of course it is still there. Nothing changed in that regard.

    Under General options, you can find the following setting:

    Mailer

    The mailer program you are using. Supported mailers are
    FrontDoor, InterMail, D'Bridge, Binkley, Portal of
    Power, MainDoor and Xenia. If your mailer is compatible
    with any of these, it can be used too.


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Conrad J. Koehler@2:292/854.200 to Bill McGarrity on Wed Sep 27 16:58:06 2017
    Hi y'all!

    It's written in C.

    D-minor would have been so much better.


    You elitist... ;)

    Just use a transposing compiler. ;-)
    Cheers,

    ius
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  • From IB JOE@1:342/200 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Sep 27 12:17:19 2017
    On 09/27/17, Wilfred van Velzen said the following...
    Mailer

    The mailer program you are using. Supported mailers are
    FrontDoor, InterMail, D'Bridge, Binkley, Portal of
    Power, MainDoor and Xenia. If your mailer is compatible
    with any of these, it can be used too.


    HAHAHA, if I hit enter once more it would have exposed that... to me...

    I'll play with fmail once I get FD up and running again. I have it running
    on a OS/2 VM. I'm going to get it up and running under a 32bit windows machine. I want to play with static queues..

    Thanx

    IB JOE
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's Computer & BBS
    Telnet: joesbbs.com

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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Conrad J. Koehler on Wed Sep 27 19:31:00 2017
    Conrad J. Koehler wrote to Bill McGarrity on 09-27-17 16:58 <=-

    It's written in C.

    D-minor would have been so much better.


    You elitist... ;)

    Just use a transposing compiler. ;-)
    Cheers,

    :)


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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:116/17 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Sep 27 20:07:02 2017
    Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

    Hi Robert,

    On 2017-09-26 20:42:02, you wrote to Ib Joe:

    Yeah, I prefer FastEcho myself since the fmail author seems to have no desire to port it over to OS/2.

    The last fmail release (1.60 from 2001) by the original
    author was available in os2 flavour (and dos too). But
    since I have no os2 environment and no development tools
    and no knowledge of os2, I'm concentrating my efforts on
    32/64 bit windows and linux environments...

    What language it is written in anyway?

    It's written in C.

    Email me off echo - robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org and please reference
    this message. :)

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  • From Rob Swindell to Ward Dossche on Thu Sep 28 14:07:24 2017
    Re: Re: Interfacing FD with
    By: Ward Dossche to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Sep 27 2017 09:32 am


    It's written in C.

    D-minor would have been so much better.

    The saddest of all keys. :-)

    -Rob

    digital man

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Rob Swindell on Thu Sep 28 23:56:20 2017

    It's written in C.

    D-minor would have been so much better.

    The saddest of all keys. :-)

    C-minor ... Beethoven's 5th ... I'd like to have a horn on my car which plays that.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Joe Bruchis@1:3828/12 to Rob Swindell on Thu Sep 28 19:09:00 2017

    Re: Re: Interfacing FD with
    By: Ward Dossche to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Sep 27 2017 09:32 am


    It's written in C.

    D-minor would have been so much better.

    The saddest of all keys. :-)

    I agree. I'd go with Eb7 with a funk beat.

    At least I know you could lay down the beat for me, D.M. :)

    Regards.
    Joe

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  • From Joacim Melin@2:201/120 to Ward Dossche on Fri Sep 29 19:09:17 2017
    It's written in C.

    D-minor would have been so much better.

    The saddest of all keys. :-)

    C-minor ... Beethoven's 5th ... I'd like to have a horn on my car
    which plays that.

    The ultimate "get the fuck out of the way"-horn.


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  • From Rob Swindell to Joe Bruchis on Fri Sep 29 15:35:30 2017
    Re: Re: Interfacing FD with
    By: Joe Bruchis to Rob Swindell on Thu Sep 28 2017 07:09 pm


    Re: Re: Interfacing FD with
    By: Ward Dossche to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Sep 27 2017 09:32 am


    It's written in C.

    D-minor would have been so much better.

    The saddest of all keys. :-)

    I agree. I'd go with Eb7 with a funk beat.

    For those that didn't get it, here's the reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7vk5keNbRc

    At least I know you could lay down the beat for me, D.M. :)

    Sure thing. :-)

    digital man

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Rob Swindell on Sat Sep 30 00:43:43 2017

    I agree. I'd go with Eb7 with a funk beat.

    For those that didn't get it, here's the reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7vk5keNbRc

    Pearls for the swines ... a lot of people don't know what spinal tap is.

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  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/189.1 to mark lewis on Tue Feb 20 08:37:03 2018
    Hello mark.

    26 Sep 17 17:13, you wrote to Joaquim Homrighausen:

    now the question is if i can have FD and binkd both working with the
    same filebox/spool directories so that mail can be picked up by either method... i've been keeping them split and only doing part of my
    config steps when i add a new telnet connected node... when i add a
    binkp connected node, i have several more steps to do...

    The question here is: How do I create these spool directories? Every time I try to enter the STQ it says that there is no queue available... Is there a file that needs to be edited?

    Flavio

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Flavio Bessa on Wed Feb 21 09:08:18 2018

    On 2018 Feb 20 08:37:02, you wrote to me:

    now the question is if i can have FD and binkd both working with the
    same filebox/spool directories so that mail can be picked up by
    either method... i've been keeping them split and only doing part of
    my config steps when i add a new telnet connected node... when i add
    a binkp connected node, i have several more steps to do...

    The question here is: How do I create these spool directories? Every
    time I try to enter the STQ it says that there is no queue
    available... Is there a file that needs to be edited?

    you have to use xrobot to do the queue thing but FD should create the queue automatically, AFAIK... i'm pretty sure that FD will create it and maybe it is telling you that because there's nothing in it?? my fastecho and allfix both use FD's STQ to queue mail and files for sending... i have another tool which uses it when moving mail and files to my binkd BSO stuff... the thing is that i
    don't know if i can point both FD and binkd to the same filebox/spool directory... i mean, sure, i can but i don' tknow what will happen if both try to deliver the same file at the same time from the same filebox directory... the chances of that should not be very large at all but some systems that can handle multiple protocols might try to connect using more than of them at once...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/189.1 to mark lewis on Thu Mar 1 16:53:06 2018
    Hello mark.

    21 Feb 18 09:08, you wrote to me:

    The question here is: How do I create these spool directories?
    Every time I try to enter the STQ it says that there is no queue
    available... Is there a file that needs to be edited?

    you have to use xrobot to do the queue thing but FD should create the queue automatically, AFAIK... i'm pretty sure that FD will create it
    and maybe it is telling you that because there's nothing in it?? my fastecho and allfix both use FD's STQ to queue mail and files for sending... i have another tool which uses it when moving mail and
    files to my binkd BSO stuff... the thing is that i don't know if i can point both FD and binkd to the same filebox/spool directory... i mean, sure, i can but i don' tknow what will happen if both try to deliver
    the same file at the same time from the same filebox directory... the chances of that should not be very large at all but some systems that
    can handle multiple protocols might try to connect using more than of
    them at once...

    Thanks! I created it with XRobot, then I was able to customize it.

    Fortunately the latest version of Mystic allows you to create Directory
    -based feeds, so the outbound echomail is moved to a specific directory where I created the spools to crash into the Hub.

    Same stuff works on the other way around, so it's working like a nice clock.

    Flavio

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