• Congressional Involvement?

    From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to All on Wed Dec 30 22:28:03 2020
    I often read the news from my old hometown in New Mexico. Today kob.com published an article about a park ranger at Petroglyphs National Monument
    (it's called that but it's really just a park.)

    The ranger is being accused by a park visitor of excessive force because the park ranger used a taser on him.

    The park visitor identifies as "indigenous."

    Here's where the debatable subject comes up:

    US Rep Deb Haaland(D) of New Mexico has felt the need to add her 2 cents to the issue. (She is also indigenous.) Her spokesperson had this to say about the incident:

    "Congresswoman Deb Haaland is aware of the incident at Petroglyphs National Monument. The Congresswoman believes that any abuse of force is unacceptable and that this incident should be thoroughly investigated. She has alerted the Chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee so proper oversight is conducted, especially considering the cultural significance of the site."

    Should a member of US Congress get this involved in a case of police brutality? Is "proper oversight" really necessary? If so, why?

    I'll start this debate (probably a debate with myself but feel free) by saying this:

    Where was US Rep Deb Haaland a few months ago when an unarmed hispanic man was killed by police? Did it not matter as much because he wasn't a native American like her and this Petroglyph visitor?

    Also, why point fingers? Her job is to draft bills, isn't it? Why don't she draft a bill against police brutality (for everyone) instead of trying to be a hero only for native Americans? She's like the native American version of Al Sharpton, but worse, because she has a job to do and I don't see her doing it.

    I'm not defending the park ranger necessarily - but I'm tired of people putting their own color above all others while we're all human beings and we all deserve an equal amount of respect and courtesy. Police brutality affects people of all colors, sometimes even indirectly - it shouldn't ONLY be an issue when the alleged victim matches the Congresswoman's color.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Matt Munson@1:218/109 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Dec 30 22:36:53 2020
    BY: Aaron Thomas(1:229/426)


    |11AT|09> |10I often read the news from my old hometown in New Mexico. Today kob.com |07
    |11AT|09> |10published an article about a park ranger at Petroglyphs National|07
    |11AT|09> |10Monument|07
    |11AT|09> |10(it's called that but it's really just a park.)|07
    |11AT|09> |07
    |11AT|09> |10The ranger is being accused by a park visitor of excessive force because|07
    |11AT|09> |10the |07
    |11AT|09> |10park ranger used a taser on him.|07
    |11AT|09> |07
    |11AT|09> |10The park visitor identifies as "indigenous."|07
    You also have an opportunity to replace her if Trump likely fails in his chance to overturn the crazy election the USA had in 2020. NM-1 will be an open seat!


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Matt Munson on Thu Dec 31 03:03:49 2020
    You also have an opportunity to replace her if Trump likely fails in his chance to overturn the crazy election the USA had in 2020. NM-1 will be an open seat!

    I'm sorry, I don't understand.

    Trump's not overturning anything. I wish he could, but that's not happening. He's just not a quitter.

    Deb Haaland won her re-election already. There's no overturning that either. Not that I know of anyway.

    I don't live in her district anymore, but I hope she does her best to actually represent the majority of the people in her district. Wouldn't anything less be an abuse of power?

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Matt Munson@1:218/109 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Dec 31 19:51:34 2020
    BY: Aaron Thomas(1:229/426)


    |11AT|09> |10Deb Haaland won her re-election already. There's no overturning that|07
    |11AT|09> |10either. |07
    |11AT|09> |10Not that I know of anyway.|07
    She is likely going to be appointed as Interior Secretary. Special Election!


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Matt Munson on Fri Jan 1 10:38:15 2021
    She is likely going to be appointed as Interior Secretary. Special Election

    I wonder what it is about her that Joe Biden likes so much? Could it be anything other than diversity of skin color?

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jan 2 12:04:00 2021
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Matt Munson <=-

    She is likely going to be appointed as Interior Secretary. Special
    lection

    I wonder what it is about her that Joe Biden likes so much? Could it be anything other than diversity of skin color?

    Do you have anything more concrete to discuss, or are you just going to
    float that out there like an attorney hoping to sway a jury when facts fail?

    I remember when debate was about, you know, facts.


    ... Change specifics to ambiguities
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Kurt Weiske on Sat Jan 2 15:56:54 2021
    Do you have anything more concrete to discuss, or are you just going to float that out there like an attorney hoping to sway a jury when facts fail

    Yes I do. Check the original message in this thread.

    Do we want congress to create an oversight committee to investigate 1 case of police brutality?

    My suggestion is "No - because this is only to help 1 single person and not
    the entire country." Matt Munson didn't really touch the debatable subject.

    Matt Munson: What do you think? Get congress to create an oversight committee to investigate the case at Petroglyph National Park, or let the locals handle it?

    Let's keep it tight guys: Debate me. Tell us your side and tell us why.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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