• Democracy Explained to Kids

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to BOB KLAHN on Fri Oct 4 18:02:24 2013
    Hello Bob,

    it. Not only that, but unlike many black men, Strom
    Thurmond was not a deadbeat dad. So don't you go around

    Thurmond was the worst sort of deadbeat dad, one who would not
    only not even admit he had a daughter, but one who saw to it his
    daughter was classified in a group that was considered inferior
    and discriminated against under the law.

    Please, Bob. You've got your racists are mixed up. There was
    Strom Thurmond. And then there was Jesse Helms. And of course,
    the ever so loveable George C. Wallace. But none of those people
    were really racists. Not hardcore racists, anyway. Not like
    Lester Maddox. Lester was a racist's racist and really knew how
    to go on a rant -

    "That's part of American greatness, is discrimination. Yes, sir.
    Inequality, I think, breeds freedom and gives a man opportunity."
    - Lester Maddox, racist extraordinaire

    So many white men are deadbeat dads. It's part of a society that
    is breaking down, pushing the middle class into the poor and
    turning the US into a third world country.

    Here is what Strom Thurmond had to say about that -

    "The white people of the South are the greatest minority in this
    nation. They deserve consideration and understanding instead of the persecution of twisted propaganda."
    - Strom Thurmond

    telling anybody that Strom
    Thurmond was a racist who did not care about black folks.
    He loved them. He loved them very much ...

    No, he did not.

    "She walks well, she looks good. Let's see how she kisses."
    - Strom Thurmond

    Obviously, Strom and that 16-year-old black kid loved each other
    very much. At least for a short period of time. And I am shure he
    was thrilled to death when he learned he was going to be a daddy.
    I mean, legal rape does have its benefits ...

    When is Jindal on the menu?

    He's on the republican's menu.

    When we pick up our crawfish, they are brown. We heat up
    the water

    Is that a reference to Jindal?

    Jindal is a Brown guy who painted himself Red.

    Remember, Jindal graduated from Brown University.
    And then he turned Red as a Republican ...

    --Lee

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  • From BOB KLAHN@1:123/140 to LEE LOFASO on Mon Oct 14 15:27:48 2013

    The point of affirmative action is to insure success is
    distributed regardless of race. Only those who oppose AA must
    believe there is no racial compenent to poverty.

    The point of affirmative action is to discriminate in favor
    of minorities - in most cases meaning blacks. Once equality

    You really are not familar with the history of affirmative
    action, are you.

    Of course I am! Of course I am! It is a history of
    discrimination!

    So, when did it start, who ordered it, and why?

    Some years back I found one of the annual almanacs, don't recall
    which but one of the top ones, had regular analysis of affirmative BK>>action. They found that 90% of the benefits of affirmative action
    went to whites.

    White folks created it for their own benefit. By creating
    affirmative action, white folks expanded the work force for
    employers. An expanded work force meant more qualified
    workers for employers to choose from.

    It said 90% of the benefits of AA went to white people.

    Employers did not need a law to hire non-whites.

    Although not part of affirmative action, this example says
    it all -

    Paul "Bear" Bryant, head football coach at Alabama, wanted
    to offer full scholarships to black athletes. But he was
    unable to do so due to opposition from Alabama alumni. So
    he got the Alabama athletic director to get in touch with
    the University of Southern California athletic director,
    thus setting up a football game between Alabama and USC.
    The game was televised nationally, and played at Alabama.
    USC easily won the game, by a wide margin. I will not
    repeat the taunts made by Alabama fans, which were very
    carefully edited out from television. The Alabama alumni
    got the picture, and from that day forward allowed black
    athletes to receive full scholarships.

    Which has nothing to do with what I said. Nor does it have
    anything to do with affirmative action.

    has been reached, affirmative action programs are no longer
    needed and should be dismantled. However, once inequalities
    re-emerge, affirmative action programs should be put back
    in place. This on again/off again approach is the only way
    affirmative action programs can work in a truly fair manner.

    Since Equality has not been reached, that's not relevant, yet.

    The best that can be hoped for is a +/- percentage. Not
    really a quota system, but an approximation.

    It's not even approximately equal.

    Which is true. We need affirmative action for all the poor in
    America.

    Bob Dole said much the same thing, but wanted to change it
    from being a race-based program to being an economic-based

    Which would mean, in the real world, focusing on white poor
    first.

    That was Bob Dole's idea, basing his argument on economic
    terms rather than on racial terms. Problem was he didn't
    follow up with an actual plan of his own.

    Maybe he didn't mean it.

    ...

    Do you think the Congress will do anything to save the SSDI
    trust program? By doing nothing, the cuts take effect

    Not if the Tea Party can stop them.

    Not to worry. Ted Cruz will come to the rescue. After
    all, he has already stopped the Democrats. He has also
    stopped the Republicans. So who else is left to stop him?
    You? Please. Give me a break.

    There are two effective political parties in DC. The Democratic
    Party and the Tea Party. The republicans are just a figment of
    some Tea Baggers imagination any more.

    ...

    After gutting the SSDI program, Republican lawmakers will
    move on to gutting the Social Security program for retirees
    age 65 and over. Won't that be grand?

    Gutting SSDI will cause so much trouble, and even trying to end
    Social Security, the republicans will lose all the control they
    have now.

    That is why the GOP had to gut SNAP first.
    By starving the poor, there will be fewer mouths
    to feed. And that means less opposition from
    the poor, disabled, and elderly. Keep doing
    that for a few decades and then Republicans
    will win every election by default.

    Except! The rich need poor people to serve them, so starvation
    will just mean they have to force more of the middle class into
    the poor. In the end they will find their policies self
    destructive.

    ...

    Imagine that. Folks who never worked a day in their life
    are better off than folks who worked their butts off their
    entire lives.

    An awful lot of those on SSI and Medicaid have worked, and
    Medicaid is 2/3rds the handicapped and elderly, last I checked.

    They have not worked enough to earn the credits they need
    for retirement. For most people, 40 credits (quarters) is
    the minimum. IOW, ten years of work over a lifetime (up to
    age 65). It should also be kept in mind that not all
    governors have signed on to expanded medicaid, leaving many
    people unable to obtain insurance through Obamacare.

    Yep, but even in Ohio the republican governor is trying an end
    run around the republican legislature to get Medicaid expanded.

    ...

    Trust me, you are right. Though is just seems to me like a long
    string of days off, or a very long vacation.

    That's (marginally) better than terminal sleep (death).

    Nah, that's a lot better.

    When I was young they could tell us, if we succeeded in school
    we would have jobs. Now they tell kids, if they succeed in
    school it's less likely they will be the ones without jobs,
    someone else will be. Not much of a guarantee.

    Social Security used to be a guarantee. Not any more.
    Pensions used to be a guarantee. Not any more.

    Social security will survive, unless the republicans get so much
    power they can eliminate it quickly enough so the resistance can
    not get organized.

    They'll probably water it down to the point that nobody
    will notice when the plug is pulled.

    Then we must take to the ramparts at the first attempt!

    Now, how's that French revolutionary song go?

    ...

    BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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  • From BOB KLAHN@1:123/140 to LEE LOFASO on Sun Oct 20 03:55:20 2013
    Hello Bob,

    it. Not only that, but unlike many black men, Strom
    Thurmond was not a deadbeat dad. So don't you go around

    Thurmond was the worst sort of deadbeat dad, one who would not
    only not even admit he had a daughter, but one who saw to it his BK>>daughter was classified in a group that was considered inferior
    and discriminated against under the law.

    Please, Bob. You've got your racists are mixed up. There

    They all look alike to me...

    ...



    BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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