Oh yeah - have several - been an owner since I was seven
years old.

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...or is this just to provide people with a place to argue about gun control?

:-)

LK

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Re: Anyone out there have any
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to LIZARD KING on Tue Apr 16 2019 12:16 pm

In today's political climate, it's hard to avoid discussing firearms without bringing up gun control and gun rights. The other day I heard a politician
say he only wanted to take away the "dangerous" guns. How does one define "dangerous?" Poorly designed? Inadequate safety precautions? Or are they referring to the effect of one being used, which requires a person with
violent or wreckless intent to create a dangerous situation?

Oh yeah - have several - been an owner

since I was seven

years old.

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...or is this just to provide people with a place to argue about gun control?

:-)

LK

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In today's political climate, it's hard to avoid discussing firearms without bringing up gun control and gun rights. The other day I heard a politician say he only wanted to take away the "dangerous" guns. How does one define "dangerous?" Poorly designed? Inadequate safety precautions? Or are they referring to the effect of one being used, which requires a person with violent or wreckless intent to create a dangerous situation?

That sounds like a trick... any gun is dangerous for the person/animal it
is being pointed at.

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Re: Anyone out there have any
By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Fri Apr 19 2019 08:43 pm

In today's political climate, it's hard to avoid discussing firearms witho bringing up gun control and gun rights. The other day I heard a politicia say he only wanted to take away the "dangerous" guns. How does one define "dangerous?" Poorly designed? Inadequate safety precautions? Or are the referring to the effect of one being used, which requires a person with violent or wreckless intent to create a dangerous situation?

That sounds like a trick... any gun is dangerous for the person/animal it
is being pointed at.

It's only as dangerous as the person pulling the trigger. The same can be
said about a hammer, or an automobile. Drive or swing at people with violent intent, then suddenly your everyday implement is an assault weapon.

Regardless, what you say is correct. Technically by that definition a gun
can be dangerous because it is easy to use, cumbersome, big, small, long, short, of large caliber, or of small caliber. Some can be dangerous because they look scary, or because they don't look scary. The earliest of gun laws were written to prohibit people of color from carrying concealable pistols, such as derringers.

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Re: Anyone out there have any
By: Moondog to Dumas Walker on Sun Apr 21 2019 10:35 am

It's only as dangerous as the person pulling the trigger. The same can be said about a hammer, or an automobile. Drive or swing at people with violent intent, then suddenly your everyday implement is an assault weapon.

Regardless, what you say is correct. Technically by that definition a gun can be dangerous because it is easy to use, cumbersome, big, small, long, short, of large caliber, or of small caliber. Some can be dangerous because they look scary, or because they don't look scary. The earliest of gun laws were written to prohibit people of color from carrying concealable pistols,

anything is a weapon. if it was in fashion for people to stab people in the eye with pens, we would have anti pen lobbyists.
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Re: Anyone out there have any
By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Apr 21 2019 03:39 pm

Re: Anyone out there have any
By: Moondog to Dumas Walker on Sun Apr 21 2019 10:35 am

It's only as dangerous as the person pulling the trigger. The same can b said about a hammer, or an automobile. Drive or swing at people with violent intent, then suddenly your everyday implement is an assault weapo

Regardless, what you say is correct. Technically by that definition a gu can be dangerous because it is easy to use, cumbersome, big, small, long, short, of large caliber, or of small caliber. Some can be dangerous beca they look scary, or because they don't look scary. The earliest of gun l were written to prohibit people of color from carrying concealable pistol

anything is a weapon. if it was in fashion for people to stab people in the eye with pens, we would have anti pen lobbyists.

The UK has a knife culture problem, and I read somewhere that in Japan any knife larger than a steak knife has to be registered with the state. Imagine the BS a chef or butcher would have to go through?

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Re: Anyone out there have any
By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Apr 21 2019 03:39 pm

anything is a weapon. if it was in fashion for people to stab people in the eye with pens, we would have anti pen lobbyists.

The pen is mightier than the sword.

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So we should pull all the dangerous cars from the road
too... :-)

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Re: Anyone out there have any
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to LIZARD KING on Tue Apr 16 2019 12:16 pm

In today's political climate, it's hard to avoid discussing firearms without bringing up gun control and gun rights. The other day I heard
a politician say he only wanted to take away the "dangerous" guns. How does one define "dangerous?" Poorly designed? Inadequate safety precautions? Or are they referring to the effect of one being used,
which requires a person with violent or wreckless intent to create a dangerous situation?

Oh yeah - have several - been an owner

since I was seven

years old.

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...or is this just to provide people with a place to argue about gun control?

:-)

LK

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It's only as dangerous as the person pulling the trigger. The same can be said about a hammer, or an automobile. Drive or swing at people with violent intent, then suddenly your everyday implement is an assault weapon.

I was taught never to point a gun at someone, whether I was pulling the
trigger or not, or even if I thought it was not loaded. Always assume it
is dangerous.

My point is saying that I am a politican who is only going to go after dangerous guns leaves me a lot of leeway to go after pretty much every gun
that has not been permanently disabled (and made useless) somehow.

Regardless, what you say is correct. Technically by that definition a gun can be dangerous because it is easy to use, cumbersome, big, small, long, short, of large caliber, or of small caliber. Some can be dangerous because they look scary, or because they don't look scary.

Sounds like you understood my point. :)

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Re: Anyone out there have any
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to MOONDOG on Sun Apr 21 2019 10:54 am

So we should pull all the dangerous cars from the road
too... :-)

can you post on the bottom please.
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Re: Anyone out there have any
By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Apr 22 2019 09:27 am

Re: Anyone out there have any
By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Apr 21 2019 03:39 pm

anything is a weapon. if it was in fashion for people to stab people in the eye with pens, we would have anti pen lobbyists.

The pen is mightier than the sword.

Nightfox

Depending on the item, it's either the assaulter's fault or the weapon's fault.
Really strange how emotion decides that. Some of the greatest martial arts
are the result of the people being disarmed

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Re: Anyone out there have any
By: Moondog to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Apr 19 2019 01:08 pm

Re: Anyone out there have any
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to LIZARD KING on Tue Apr 16 2019 12:16 pm

In today's political climate, it's hard to avoid discussing firearms without

post on bottom please
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