Moondog wrote to Nightfox <=-
It use dto air on the local PBS station back in the mid yo late 80's.
I recall one where they had two companies reviewing their product, and
the Korean based firm's sales rep said they were experimenting with joining severa l lcd panels to form larger panels.
panels were long, slender panels cpable of maybe 80x10 rows. The sales guy was estatic, sying active matrix color was right around the corner, and large high definition TV's will put CRT's out of business. The
other sales guy laughed, and stated a bunch of stats about viewing
angle, latency in twist rate of the crystals, and the computing power needed to multiplex all these little panels into one larger one. The slaes guy form the Korean company made a remark about a difference in
US and Asian engineering investment. The main difference was regarding time span before maturity versus price. Us firms were looking at 3-5 years maturity versus what was possible in 10+ years.
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One of the episodes of Computer Chronicles was at CoffeeNet, an
internet cafe before coffee shops knew what Linux or Wifi was. I
remember seeing it back in the late '90s.
Moondog wrote to Nightfox <=-
It use dto air on the local PBS station back in the mid yo late 80's.
I recall one where they had two companies reviewing their product, and the Korean based firm's sales rep said they were experimenting with joining severa l lcd panels to form larger panels.
Gary Kildall, the co-host with the beard, is the guy who famously
missed an appointment with IBM and missed the opportunity to
sell CPM/86 to them for the IBM PC.
If memory serves, one of our local affiliates in the San Francisco
Bay Area produced the show. I love seeing balding nerds with wire-rim
prescription glasses in white starched shirts and tie-pins talking
about microprocessors, micro-floppies and more effective data
processing, reminds me of where IT came from. In Halt and Catch Fire,
when Joe goes to work for his girlfriend's dad's company in season 2,
it wasn't that far off.
One of the episodes of Computer Chronicles was at CoffeeNet, an
internet cafe before coffee shops knew what Linux or Wifi was. I
remember seeing it back in the late '90s.
I don't know if they ever covered SFNet, a multi-node dial-up BBS in
San Francisco that had coin-op kiosks in coffee shops and
laundromats. They did a lot to bring non-computer people into the
community, especially when a lot of people didn't have home computers
yet.
Before then LCD
panels were long, slender panels cpable of maybe 80x10 rows. The sales guy was estatic, sying active matrix color was right around the corner, and large high definition TV's will put CRT's out of business. The other sales guy laughed, and stated a bunch of stats about viewing angle, latency in twist rate of the crystals, and the computing power needed to multiplex all these little panels into one larger one. The slaes guy form the Korean company made a remark about a difference in US and Asian engineering investment. The main difference was regarding time span before maturity versus price. Us firms were looking at 3-5 years maturity versus what was possible in 10+ years.
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Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
With the online and cloud apps being developed these days, I think it's a little weird that we've gone from using dumb terminals connected to mainframes years ago, to having our own powerful desktop computers, to now many people using simple devices using online software again.
(aside: I was watching old episodes of "Computer Chronicles", and
they talked about, if you had an "internet TV", they could "blast"
FOUR MEGABYTES work of programs to you, in less than 2 minutes! My,
how far we've come...)
Yeah, there's always some misfit trying to use their system is a way that breaks things. At a previous site we had to lock down a user's profile so the y couldn't change things enoughto get in trouble. When they would complain
Gary Kildall, the co-host with the beard, is the guy who famously
missed an appointment with IBM and missed the opportunity to
sell CPM/86 to them for the IBM PC.
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Nightfox to Moondog on Fri May 06 2022 02:41 pm
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
With the online and cloud apps being developed these days, I think it's a little weird that we've gone from using dumb terminals connected to mainframes years ago, to having our own powerful desktop computers, to no many people using simple devices using online software again.
i think it makes perfect sense.
you should only use what you need.
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue May 10 2022 03:22 pm
Yeah, there's always some misfit trying to use their system is a way that breaks things. At a previous site we had to lock down a user's profile s the y couldn't change things enoughto get in trouble. When they would complain
i someone is at a desk. you have to watch them.
there will be some funny business going on.
my friend is an it manager and they have this software that shows all the us
this dude got in trouble and they watched him delete his emails and try to c they track when they're idle, what programs are open, what emails they send
at my job as an electronics tech we had an engineer who would sit by himself he was stupid and didn't realize my desk was right behind his.
he was trying to break the computer by restarting it. either hardware, the O
he stopped doing it. later on i helpd out in another department and came ba ve had a camera on him all day.
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Moondog on Wed May 11 2022 06:53 am
Gary Kildall, the co-host with the beard, is the guy who famously
missed an appointment with IBM and missed the opportunity to
sell CPM/86 to them for the IBM PC.
he didn't miss it. his wife was going to handle the meeting.
he was on company business at another location.
His wife didn't want to sign the standard NDA without her husband. she shou ibm would have just bought them out. i'm not sure if that's what they wante
His wife didn't want to sign the standard NDA without her husband.
she
shou ibm would have just bought them out. i'm not sure if that's what they wante
Correct. Folklore is he picked that day to go out flying his plane.
he had
flown to meet a customer earlier and met with IBM later. Part of the NDA back then included disavowment of any meetings or deals. Gates could move faster and sweetened the deal with undercutting DRI's pricing because he had previously worked on creating IBM's BIOS and overheard things involved in the next step of development.
When a pc was treated like an remote island, you need all the resources to be onhand. A terminals' apps and outside communications came in the form of a big box in the basement, and allowed others to leave internal mail or send ort broadcast messages to the all the users or just one user. Users were locked down from using external devices that could introduce a virus.
Chromebooks and Android desktops are great if you have the bandwidth. Again, apps are updated and managed from the source. Cloud storage allows for you to damage your device and not worry about lost data.
Aside from needing enough bandwidth, one thing with Chromebooks & similar th
Aside from needing enough bandwidth, one thing with Chromebooks &
similar th
I manage just shy of 1k Chromebooks at work. They will, indeed, function without a 'Net connection, although you do need to have cached your documents locally first. This is not the default behaviour, though.
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Moondog to MRO on Wed May 18 2022 09:38 pm
When a pc was treated like an remote island, you need all the resources be onhand. A terminals' apps and outside communications came in the for of a big box in the basement, and allowed others to leave internal mail send ort broadcast messages to the all the users or just one user. User were locked down from using external devices that could introduce a vir
Chromebooks and Android desktops are great if you have the bandwidth. Again, apps are updated and managed from the source. Cloud storage allo for you to damage your device and not worry about lost data.
Aside from needing enough bandwidth, one thing with Chromebooks & similar th y to do what I want to do.
Nightfox
I thought pretty much all the software they ran was web-based though. Even
Nightfox wrote to Moondog <=-
Aside from needing enough bandwidth, one thing with Chromebooks &
similar that totally rely on online apps is if the connection is lost, then you can't do any work.
That is why so much effort is put into hardening business networks. Several schools have moved to Chromebooks, and I know of one major appliance manufacturer that dumped MS Office in favor of Google apps. That was a bold move, mainly because of users being more familair with Office all these years rather than bandwidth.
Users being more familiar with Office than bandwidth? I'm not sure what you
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Fri May 20 2022 02:02 am
That is why so much effort is put into hardening business networks. Several schools have moved to Chromebooks, and I know of one major appliance manufacturer that dumped MS Office in favor of Google apps. T was a bold move, mainly because of users being more familair with Offic all these years rather than bandwidth.
Users being more familiar with Office than bandwidth? I'm not sure what you
Nightfox
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Nightfox to Moondog on Sat May 21 2022 10:38 am
Users being more familiar with Office than bandwidth? I'm not sure what
I think Moondog was saying that the reason for it being a bold move was more do with user unfamiliarity, rather than the need for more bandwidth.
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knightwise wrote to Divarin <=-
I was wondering if "Mutiny" was indeed a BBS service. Now I
understand. I love love love that show! y
Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Kaelon to All on Sun May 01 2022 14:54:45
Has anyone else here seen it? What do you think about the show?
Hustler wrote to Joe Phigan <=-
Has anyone else here seen it? What do you think about the show?
Absolutley loved it! Best TV Series I've seen in a very long time.
Bindge watched most of it.
Hustler wrote to Joe Phigan <=-
Has anyone else here seen it? What do you think about the show?
Absolutley loved it! Best TV Series I've seen in a very long time. Bindge watched most of it.
I just re-watched the tail end of season 4. Great show.
I want a present-day season 5.
... Abandon desire
i would prefer they stuck with the small jumps in time, and show the later half of the 90's after the dot com boom and when file sharing services were hot. Remember Pointcast? Companies hated it because it consumed so much bandwith. Distributed computing was also new, so there's lots to play with
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 05 2022 12:41 pm
i would prefer they stuck with the small jumps in time, and show the late half of the 90's after the dot com boom and when file sharing services w hot. Remember Pointcast? Companies hated it because it consumed so much bandwith. Distributed computing was also new, so there's lots to play wi
i dont know of any company that used pointcast. i looked it up and internet
MRO wrote to Moondog <=-
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 05 2022 12:41 pm
hot. Remember Pointcast? Companies hated it because it consumed so much bandwith. Distributed computing was also new, so there's lots to play with
i dont know of any company that used pointcast. i looked it up and internet sez it's like a screensaver that showed real time info.
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