Now, if/when the media insults Trump, they're not only insulting Trump, but they're insulting the majority of American voters! (Way to go ignorant leftists! Keep it red!)
Re: Thanks America!
By: Shitty to All on Thu Nov 07 2024 10:30 am
But how many voters chose Trump as the lesser of 2 evils? I have a feeling some of the people who voted for Trump did so not because they really like him, but because they dislike him less than the opponents.
Nightfox
Kamala got fewer votes than Biden got in 2020, in every single state (according to media reports.)
Now, if/when the media insults Trump, they're not only insulting Trump, but they're insulting the majority of American voters! (Way to go ignorant leftists! Keep it red!)
But how many voters chose Trump as the lesser of 2 evils? I have a feeling some of the people who voted for Trump did so not because they really like him, but because they dislike him less than the opponents.
well everyone will get fewer votes than biden. they say he got more than obama did. i think a lot of those votes were bogus.
Shitty wrote to All <=-
Kamala got fewer votes than Biden got in 2020, in every single state (according to media reports.)
Or like me, some people vote for the plan... not the person. I vote for things like $1.80/gal gas, closed borders and no men in women's sports... just to name a few things.
Now, if/when the media insults Trump, they're not only insulting Trum but they're insulting the majority of American voters! (Way to go ign leftists! Keep it red!)
But how many voters chose Trump as the lesser of 2 evils? I have a feeling some of the people who voted for Trump did so not because they really like him, but because they dislike him less than the opponents.
Kamala got fewer votes than Biden got in 2020, in every single state (according to media reports.)
well everyone will get fewer votes than biden. they say he got more than obama did. i think a lot of those votes were bogus.
Now, if/when the media insults Trump, they're not only insulting Trump, they're insulting the majority of American voters! (Way to go ignorant leftists! Keep it red!)
They've already started more stupidity... like telling women that
because a man won, women should divorce their husbands.
These idiots just don't understand why they lost...
Kamala got fewer votes than Biden got in 2020, in every single state (according to media reports.)
But that's mostly because Biden got like 14 million votes from people who didn't exist, or voted multiple times, etc.
People were watching and, mysteriously, there were 18 million less votes than in 2020 - which puts the number of votes cast about correct
according to the last 5 years (other than 2020, of course).
just to name a few things.
One thing that worries me a bit is that I've heard Trump wants to impose tariffs on imported goods, especially from China, where his tariffs
would be higher. A lot of our electronic goods are made in China, and
I'm worried this would mean higher prices for a lot of our goods. If
you need a new refrigerator, washer, dryer, computer, etc., you may be paying more for it. Let alone things we might buy with disposable
income, such as a game console, Raspberry Pi & accessories, and other
such things.
We've already experienced high inflation over the past few years, and we don't need further price increases.
That describes every election. There has never been 2 totally awesome candidates.
There has never been a time when the decision was difficult to
make.
Some things are more important than a good price on a new refrigerator, like being alive long enough to eat the food that's stored in it.
Shitty wrote to Dr. What <=-
People were watching and, mysteriously, there were 18 million less votes than in 2020 - which puts the number of votes cast about correct
according to the last 5 years (other than 2020, of course).
I heard about that and it's fascinating, and it needs investigating. 18 million voters didn't just decide not to vote this year "because of climate change."
One thing that worries me a bit is that I've heard Trump wants to impose tariffs on imported goods, especially from China, where his tariffs would be higher. A lot of our electronic goods are made in China, and I'm worried this would mean higher prices for a lot of our goods. If you need a new refrigerator, washer, dryer, computer, etc., you may be paying more for it. Let alone things we might buy with disposable income, such as a game console, Raspberry Pi & accessories, and other such things.
I've seen a lot of people complain about cost of living and prices rising fairly fast over the past few years, and some have blamed it on the Biden administration. It has been one of the main concerns over the last few years. If people want inflation to slow down under a new president, then Trump's tariffs are concerning.
One thing that worries me a bit is that I've heard Trump wants to impose
tariffs on imported goods, especially from China, where his tariffs would
be higher. A lot of our electronic goods are made in China, and I'm
worried this would mean higher prices for a lot of our goods. If you need
Welcome to the EU, where this problem is a given!
IMO the issue there is not the presence or lack of tariffs, but the fact a former industrial powerhouse such as the US depends on importing that stuff today.
If people want inflation to slow down under a new president, then
Trump's tariffs are concerning.
Look at all the money they stole from us. Trillions of dollars, with nothing to show for it.
When someone has "obtain trillions of dollars" on their agenda, mysterious things are bound to happen at the polls.
Kamala got fewer votes than Biden got in 2020, in every single state (according to media reports.)
well everyone will get fewer votes than biden. they say he got more than obama did. i think a lot of those votes were bogus.
Look at all the money they stole from us. Trillions of dollars, with nothing to show for it.
When someone has "obtain trillions of dollars" on their agenda, mysterious things are bound to happen at the polls.
I do agree here - I rely on electonics from China and... we've had big issues before when oil/gas goes up, or when customs has tightened the border; I'm worried that big tariffs are going to throw a wrench in the containers that I have in China, on the water and at port.
Guess we'll see.
There has never been a time when the decision was difficult to
make.
I disagree there.. I think this election and the last election were fairly difficult, and many more elections were difficult decisions.
Some things are more important than a good price on a new refrigerato like being alive long enough to eat the food that's stored in it.
I've seen a lot of people complain about cost of living and prices rising fairly fast over the past few years, and some have blamed it on the Biden administration. It has been one of the main concerns over the last few years. If people want inflation to slow down under a new president, then Trump's tariffs are concerning.
People were watching and, mysteriously, there were 18 million less vo than in 2020 - which puts the number of votes cast about correct according to the last 5 years (other than 2020, of course).
I heard about that and it's fascinating, and it needs investigating. million voters didn't just decide not to vote this year "because of climate change."
What's even more funny is that even the Wokies are demanding an investigation.
But from their point of view, the problem was in 2024, and not in 2020.
In any case, this does not bode well for the instigators of the 2020 election fraud.
When someone has "obtain trillions of dollars" on their agenda, Og> S> myster
things are bound to happen at the polls.
Most of the funds raised by the democrats probably went to pay
for the appearances/performances of the mega music stars.
When someone has "obtain trillions of dollars" on their agenda, mysteri things are bound to happen at the polls.
we gave over 50 billion in aid to ukraine. we won't get a penny of that back. meanwhile the president of ukraine and his wife are wealthy now
and drive luxury cars.
What's even more funny is that even the Wokies are demanding an investigation.
But from their point of view, the problem was in 2024, and not in 2020.
In any case, this does not bode well for the instigators of the 2020 election fraud.
Arelor wrote to Nightfox <=-
Welcome to the EU, where this problem is a given!
IMO the issue there is not the presence or lack of tariffs, but the
fact a former industrial powerhouse such as the US depends on importing that stuff today.
MRO wrote to Shitty <=-
we gave over 50 billion in aid to ukraine. we won't get a penny of
that back. meanwhile the president of ukraine and his wife are wealthy
now and drive luxury cars. ---
One thing that worries me a bit is that I've heard Trump wants to impose tariffs on imported goods, especially from China, where his tariffs
would be higher. A lot of our electronic goods are made in China, and
I'm worried this would mean higher prices for a lot of our goods. If
you need a new refrigerator, washer, dryer, computer, etc., you may be paying more for it. Let alone things we might buy with disposable
income, such as a game console, Raspberry Pi & accessories, and other
such things.
But how many voters chose Trump as the lesser of 2 evils? I have a feeling some of the people who voted for Trump did so not because they really like him, but because they dislike him less than the opponents.
That describes every election. There has never been 2 totally awesome candidates. There has never been a time when the decision was difficult to make.
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Re: Re: Thanks America!
By: Shitty to Nightfox on Sat Nov 09 2024 10:10 am
Some things are more important than a good price on a new refrigerator, like being alive long enough to eat the food that's stored in it.
I've seen a lot of people complain about cost of living and prices rising fairly fast over the past few years, and some have blamed it on the Biden administration. It has been one of the main concerns over the last few years.
If people want inflation to slow down under a new president, then Trump's tariffs are concerning.
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How long will we have to endure this? As long as it take for us to regain control of a majority of the global electronics market.
In any case, this does not bode well for the instigators of the 2020 election fraud.
I disagree there.. I think this election and the last election were
fairly difficult, and many more elections were difficult decisions.
What made this year's election difficult to choose?
Is it that incredibly long list of things that Harris did for us? <jk>
I don't believe that the prices of food and electric are dependent on our relationship with China, and those are the costs that I'm concerned with.
The prices of TVs are at an all time low. If that were to change, and if TVs double in price because of Trump tariffs, then I'm ok with that, provided that my electric and food prices are lowered.
Volkswagen wants to close 3 factories in Germany and lay off 10,000 workers. Audi 4500. German cars are quite expensive here!
Re: Re: Thanks America!
By: Shitty to MRO on Sat Nov 09 2024 10:05 am
we gave over 50 billion in aid to ukraine. we won't get a penny of that back. meanwhile the president of ukraine and his wife are wealthy now and drive luxury cars.
In my opinion, politicians at the time should have frozen prices to prevent damage to
citizens. Actually their oath of office, right?
Here in germany the prices exploded because of two things:
Corona & the war in the ukraine...
Here in europe most of "us" think, his 2nd period of office/terms will
get even worse.
Germany tried price caps to put a stop to runaway inflation when it concerned basic products - milk, vegetables, that sort of stuff - soon after WWII and it worked very poorly.
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Re: Re: Thanks America!
By: Mike to Nightfox on Sun Nov 10 2024 01:13 am
In my opinion, politicians at the time should have frozen prices to prevent
damage to
citizens. Actually their oath of office, right?
Germany tried price caps to put a stop to runaway inflation when it concerned
basic products - milk, vegetables, that sort of stuff - soon after WWII and it
worked very poorly.
Spain also underwent price capping for groceries around the same time.
China had a crisis not long ago because they capped the price of electricity.
The issue with price capping is that you make it less interesting for people to
produce the capped goods so they stop doing it altogether. In the case of China, maybe the problem is they want to keep producing, but can't afford to,
because the capped prices don't allow to pay their suppliers.
Somethinc good came out of Spanish price capping, though. Everybody started using black markets and learnt to operate beyond the law.
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Re: Re: Thanks America!
By: Mike to Nightfox on Sun Nov 10 2024 01:13 am
Volkswagen wants to close 3 factories in Germany and lay off 10,000 workers. Audi 4500. German cars are quite expensive here!
Aside from inflation issues & such, it sounds like Volkswagen isn't doing very
well. I always liked Volkswagens, and drove Volkswagens for about 20 years, but I didn't really like where Volkswagen has been going the last few years with their car designs. They had started using a lot of flat touch panels in
their cars instead of physical buttons & knobs, and in the US, the stopped selling the base model Golf, and many of the vehicles they're selling in the US
seem to be bigger vehicles such as SUVs (which I'm not particularly interested
in).
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Here in germany the prices exploded because of two things:
Corona & the war in the ukraine...
Problems in Germany are more multilayer than just blaming Corona and
Russian invasion of the Ukraine (as that how it should be properly named to point who to blame for it in the first place).
Immigration politics blew in your faces, NordStreams and other gas deals with
Russia blew in your faces... as nobody in the Baltic Sea area wanted them
in the first place and you just tried to trick your Eastern neighbors together with Russians, against general interest of EU as whole... if that project didn't start and any trading with Russia had to continue through Ukraine, we would have no war in the first place. So you can kiss Schroeder's
ass for your current inflation, my friend.
All the social politics still exploited way too much by the former DDR
part of your country that still is not compatible with Western Germany ethos it seems.
Germany is not one consistent country like it would like to show itself to the world... You're internally so divided and moments of weakness in the world like we have today just exposes that heavily, yet many of you still think you can lead EU toward its better future while you can't secure your own.
Germany is not a voice of Europe for a while and that is also a big
surprise to many of you.
First of all there is no single voice of Europe and that what also recent decade has shown very well (With Brexit included).
Your cars are crap comparing to their past glory. Chinese BYD is superior
to Audi in many ways... And even on top of your tech.. Czechs currently make the best German cars (Skoda) not Germans.. so I'm not suprised for closing the
plants, maybe moving them to more competent engineering countries can help rescue the position... I drive SKoda and if they only could just fucking replace the crappy DSG transmission to some tech other than VW as electromechanics in it can't stand 60k KM without serious life risking failure.
I live in Poland, work with Germans and I am quite often in Germany since like forever... (if I can call Mahmud, Mayur and Ermanno Germans tho, so more
in German territory than Germans these days, unless in small town Bavaria, Turks from the 80s fairly included, often good fellows), and I can't fucking drive 100km on your highways without seeing reconstructions taking long years... the most famous one - A4 close to Dresden, you can't repair 30km of the crucial part of the belt road, heading west, for 15 years now... primarily
because of the bureaucracy you're so famous of, internationally, plus this is
Saxony...
and as "meinen Bayerische Freunde haben gesagt: Sachsen Leute, andere Leute" which just proves there is no unity between Germans if you're close enough to
discover.
I live in Poland, which is currently, I think, the most Trump-compatible country in EU and albeit inflation and turbulences... we're still growing and
with completely different view on the EU politics and problematics than DE, which in our general opinion lost its vision for the future and together with France is putting EU into its doom.
So ...
Here in europe most of "us" think, his 2nd period of office/terms will get even worse.
... Is actually not the case.
My opinion is that electing this or that US president is the right of American
people, not anybody else... and if anybody outside US, particularly in Europe,
cries because of the results, it only means that that particular country and EU
as a whole is weak... not Trump particularly strong.
Problem solving should start home not by commenting other countries with negativity.. and this is actually what Trump understands well as I hear him.
I strongly believe it will be an interesting wake up call for Europe or a final
confirmation that it doesn't work and should be reformed or disbanded. I still
believe the last scenario would be really bad for most Europeans... so I really
hope for the wake up call.
For Americans... I'm sure you'll have hell of a TV Show for the next years to
come. I start making some popcorn and freezing my coke so I'm prepared to consume it all together.
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There have never been 2 totally awesome candidates, but there have been three straight elections now where there were either 2 totally not-good choices, or 2 totally questionable ones.
(2) will have to charge us a lot more for the products made here.
The reason is that it is doubtful most unions are going to accept wages
that are lower than the wages the company pays foreign workers + the cost
to import the goods.
People were watching and, mysteriously, there were 18 million less votes than in 2020 - which puts the number of votes cast about correct according to the last 5 years (other than 2020, of course).
I heard about that and it's fascinating, and it needs investigating. 18 million voters didn't just decide not to vote this year "because of climate change."
What's even more funny is that even the Wokies are demanding an investigation.
But from their point of view, the problem was in 2024, and not in 2020.
In any case, this does not bode well for the instigators of the 2020 election fraud.
You are absolutely right! Imigration of so much people is a problem for every social
system like our's. And I don't know, if other car manufactors would have the same problems, like VW and Audi. But that's the actual news here in germany.
reason, why the american people voted for a person like Donald Trump.
1st thing I
wanna give a feedback, that we also have "problems" with the higher
prices for living since... guess!
We'll see where this leads soon, when new elections are held in
hopefully early 2025.
Have a nice day
the thing is, in a lot of cases china just does everything better at a cheaper price.
"everything" even includes paying workers very low wages. they
are a highly repressed and surveilled peoples. maybe the top engineers/designers do well but the quality of life of factory
workers is very low. production in China is not on an even
playing field with other country's worker/employer policies.
Hello MRO!
** On Tuesday 12.11.24 - 09:33, MRO wrote to Dumas Walker:
the thing is, in a lot of cases china just does everything better at a cheaper price.
"everything" even includes paying workers very low wages. they
are a highly repressed and surveilled peoples. maybe the top engineers/designers do well but the quality of life of factory
workers is very low. production in China is not on an even
playing field with other country's worker/employer policies.
But what is better? Inflation or price stability?
I think price stability, because the price spiral wouldn't continue!
If the market goes crazy, "just" because of Corona/Ukraine and, for example, cooking oil
costs twice as much from one day to the next!!!...the goverment should intervene
and force the company to charge the old price again! Because, in this case, the warehouses in Germany were still filled with the cooking oil. I could call a lot of these
examples where Article raised in the price from day to the next day!
the thing is, in a lot of cases china just does everything better at a cheaper price.
"everything" even includes paying workers very low wages. they
are a highly repressed and surveilled peoples. maybe the top engineers/designers do well but the quality of life of factory
workers is very low. production in China is not on an even
playing field with other country's worker/employer policies.
Votes are still being counted and the total gap is closing. Voting is anonymous, but who voted and where is not. There's nothing here for either side. If anyone is curious, ask the folks that stayed home this time.
Anyone here who is an eligible US voter who wants to discuss the reasons they voted in 2020 but not in 2024?
Re: Re: Thanks America!
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Tue Nov 12 2024 09:33 am
the thing is, in a lot of cases china just does everything better at a cheaper price.
Actually I am concerned because China has stopped being a factory for cheap junk and they are now producing quality stuff.
Meanwhile any industrial process in Europe downs itself in corporative and administrative paperwork, and the vibes I get from workers in many sectors is apathy runs wild. Nobody cares if stuff gets done at all. We in the West have build an Empire of Mediocrity where apt workers are perceived as a threat by their mates and they will be pulled down, therefore nobody wants to be an apt worker anymore.
Payback is a bitch and we are getting it all.
wheelchart and shovel each by a single guy with a heavy vehicle wasn't a sound decision at all.
I think in the long run Chinesse workers will see their living standards raise. In fact some say China is starting to see the begining of this crisis. This is probably one of the reasons why the Uniparty there has started pushing for traditional family models in order to have a woman take care of the kids while the man works outside.
Votes are still being counted and the total gap is closing. Voting is anonymous, but who voted and where is not. There's nothing here for either side. If anyone is curious, ask the folks that stayed home this time.
So far I have not met anyone that admitted to staying home and not voting who did vote in 2020 (or who didn't, for that matter).
Anyone here who is an eligible US voter who wants to discuss the reasons they voted in 2020 but not in 2024?
Look at how china has taken over everything important. Why was everyone so quiet while this happened?
internet says avg wage for chinese employee is over 50k usd. that's
pretty decent for an avg wage.
furthermore, there are many differences. food prices, living costs, apartment prices.
do you realize chinese people are buying property abroad like crazy? in
the usa and canada?
Look at how china has taken over everything important. Why was everyone so quiet while this happened?
Hello MRO!
internet says avg wage for chinese employee is over 50k usd. that's pretty decent for an avg wage.
my internet search indicated 97000 yuan for the average factory
worker. that's about $13k USD. hard to buy luxury properties
abroad with that kind of money.
Look at how china has taken over everything important. Why was everyone so quiet while this happened?
IMHO, some of the powers that be c2008-2016 wanted this to happen so they could turn around and make the USA seem "green" while all the pollution we once created was now being created somewhere else.
just to name a few things.
One thing that worries me a bit is that I've heard Trump wants to impos tariffs on imported goods, especially from China, where his tariffs would be higher. A lot of our electronic goods are made in China, and I'm worried this would mean higher prices for a lot of our goods. If you need a new refrigerator, washer, dryer, computer, etc., you may be paying more for it. Let alone things we might buy with disposable income, such as a game console, Raspberry Pi & accessories, and other such things.
We've already experienced high inflation over the past few years, and w don't need further price increases.
Some things are more important than a good price on a new refrigerator, like being alive long enough to eat the food that's stored in it.
Re: Re: Thanks America!
By: Shitty to Nightfox on Sat Nov 09 2024 10:10 am
Some things are more important than a good price on a new refrigerator, like being alive long enough to eat the food that's stored in it.
I've seen a lot of people complain about cost of living and prices rising fairly fast over the past few years, and some have blamed it on the Biden administration. It has been one of the main concerns over the last few year If people want inflation to slow down under a new president, then Trump's tariffs are concerning.
Nightfox
Shitty wrote to Dr. What <=-
People were watching and, mysteriously, there were 18 million less vote than in 2020 - which puts the number of votes cast about correct according to the last 5 years (other than 2020, of course).
I heard about that and it's fascinating, and it needs investigating. 18 million voters didn't just decide not to vote this year "because of climate change."
What's even more funny is that even the Wokies are demanding an investigatio
But from their point of view, the problem was in 2024, and not in 2020.
In any case, this does not bode well for the instigators of the 2020 electio fraud.
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Re: Thanks America!
By: Nightfox to Bf2k+ on Fri Nov 08 2024 11:18 am
One thing that worries me a bit is that I've heard Trump wants to impose tariffs on imported goods, especially from China, where his tariffs would higher. A lot of our electronic goods are made in China, and I'm worried this would mean higher prices for a lot of our goods. If you need a new refrigerator, washer, dryer, computer, etc., you may be paying more for i Let alone things we might buy with disposable income, such as a game console, Raspberry Pi & accessories, and other such things.
Welcome to the EU, where this problem is a given!
IMO the issue there is not the presence or lack of tariffs, but the fact a former industrial powerhouse such as the US depends on importing that stuff today.
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Re: Re: Thanks America!
By: Mike to Arelor on Mon Nov 11 2024 09:11 am
But what is better? Inflation or price stability?
I think price stability, because the price spiral wouldn't continue!
If the market goes crazy, "just" because of Corona/Ukraine and, for example,
cooking oil
costs twice as much from one day to the next!!!...the goverment should intervene
and force the company to charge the old price again! Because, in this case,
the warehouses in Germany were still filled with the cooking oil. I could call a lot of these
examples where Article raised in the price from day to the next day!
That is not the dichotomy. The real question is "what is better, expensive goods or scarcity?"
Blaming the pandemic and the Ukrainian crisis is easy, but both the US and the
EU have done everythign they could to crash their respective economies and they
started well before the 2020's. You can only go so far after you debase your currency and start printing fiat money like crazy. The US in particular has been overproducing American Dollar to sell to developed countries so they could
partake in international trades and deals; now the world is flooded with more
USD than the world's population needs to use. Hence price crash.
I take price manipulation of agricultural products quite seriously because I have horses and I take a hit every time hay and grain fluctuates. My experience
is that when somebody is an asshole and keeps hay with the expectation of selling it for more than it is worth he ends up crawling to me and begging me
to buy it for cheap some months afterwards, because this sort of stuff takes a
lot of room to store and they need the warehouse clean so they can keep the next's season production. This is when I am very skeptical about claims of "Economic Warfare" with oil and corn and the like.
But the reading people does not take is this one: if I am keeping oil unsold because I don't think it is a good moment to sell it, and I am forced to sell
it, the next year NOBODY will produce oil at all. From a finantial perspective,
keeping prime mater in storage is a bit like saving your money because you are
scared things are going to go bad and you may need to use your savings in the
future. When they take your savings away from you you stop saving.
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My experience is that when somebody is an asshole and keeps
hay with the expectation of selling it for more than it is worth he ends up crawling to me and begging me to buy it for cheap some months afterwards,
Actually I am concerned because China has stopped being a factory for cheap junk and they are now producing quality stuff.
my internet search indicated 97000 yuan for the average factory
worker. that's about $13k USD. hard to buy luxury properties
abroad with that kind of money.
I'm old enough to remember when American companies made their products in America. The products were affordable and a lot better made than the products you can buy now. Everything is designed to break.
specific lie about the fired factory workers that would occur when the jobs were moved, but I vaguely rememeber some mumbo jumbo about us moving from a factory based economy to an idea based economy.
Bring back manufacturing, impose tarrifs, reduce taxes and I bet the economy starts to roar.
Bring back manufacturing, impose tarrifs, reduce taxes and I bet the economy starts to roar.
The tarrifs he put in place when he was in office before didn't raise any prices. China ate the cost. O'Biden left the tarrifs in place due to the amount of revenue they generate.
I could be wrong, but I think tarrifs will ultimately serve this country well.
I'm old enough to remember when American companies made their products in America. The products were affordable and a lot better made than the products you can buy now. Everything is designed to break.
are you sure a lot of that is just not delusional nostalgia that affects a lot of us? things just SEEMED better in the old days.
my internet search indicated 97000 yuan for the average factory
worker. that's about $13k USD. hard to buy luxury properties
abroad with that kind of money.
I had the same with fire wood last year and this year. Normally I want to buy enough for the winter as quickly as possible right after summer, cause in the past being late meant higher prices.
These days being late gives me 25-30% discount as sellers were stuck with unsold stuff.
I'm old enough to remember when American companies made their products in America. The products were affordable and a lot better made than the products you can buy now. Everything is designed to break.
are you sure a lot of that is just not delusional nostalgia that affects a lot of us? things just SEEMED better in the old days.
Hello MRO,
On Thu, Nov 14 2024 16:41:53 -0600, you wrote:
are you sure a lot of that is just not delusional nostalgia that affects a lot of us? things just SEEMED better in the old days.
Perfect example = Tonka trucks.
Regards,
Nick
The feeling you get when listening to a commercial or sponsored segment from back in the 30s or 40s is that whoever made it wanted to do a good job and also wanted to provide a service to the end user. They took much more care to explain what the product was, how it worked that sort of thing. Lots of business deals were considered a long term thing so they really tried to attract customers. There was a coal supply company that would do free
business deals were considered a long term thing so they really tried to attract customers. There was a coal supply company that would do free maintenance on your chimney and stoves if you were a known customer. They also sent you a sample ton on request.
Think of it. A sample ton of coal.
Advertisements today are made for people with null attention spans and the idea is to get people to jump ship on impulses.
Wood fire is not popular for house heating in Spain, though. Firewood is regarded as a poorman's resource. Nearly everybody uses gas for house heating, or fuel-oil. People who wants solid fuels tend to use pellets, which are a bit of a scam if you ask me.
I'd more say, they have both, but yes; I'm quite often surprised that many Chinese premium products are really premium and with fairly acceptable price tag.
Haier's washing machines and fridges as most notable discovery of last years!
Since Haier recently purchased GE's appliance division, they are making Haier products (mostly labeled as GE) in the US now.
Since Haier recently purchased GE's appliance division, they are making Haier products (mostly labeled as GE) in the US now.
Yep, they acquired a lot of US/EU brands recently.
Yep, they acquired a lot of US/EU brands recently.
Which is something I think we should be concerned about.
Yep, they acquired a lot of US/EU brands recently.
Which is something I think we should be concerned about.
Well... they have the real money, not the printed ones... I think since 2008 more than US, I'd say.. and they keep spending it wisely to expand influence and grab back tech spec so their native brands can be top notch advanced.
I think that's part of the strategy.
Meanwhile they (the Chinese) are also up to things like this:
https://gcaptain.com/details-of-baltic-sea-cable-incident-remain-murky-as- danish-coast-guard-shadows-chinese-vessel/
Meanwhile they (the Chinese) are also up to things like this:
https://gcaptain.com/details-of-baltic-sea-cable-incident-remain-murky-as- >DW> danish-coast-guard-shadows-chinese-vessel/
Yeah I know.. it's sort of a big news in my part of Europe.
being alive long enough to eat the food that's stored in it.
First I want to mention that the last time Trump was in office, tarrifs did not have any negative impact on pricing. China ate the cost and they will this time as well. In additon, O'Biden left the tarrifs in place because they are generating huge sums of money.
I agree about being alive long enough to eat the food, but I also
listened to someone explaining tarrifs the other day and the bottom line is they tend to be good for the country because it protects our
industries from markets being flooded with products that have
artificially lower cost. These products harm our competing industries.
Someone out there that knows more than me can do a better job of explaining
improved over time. I've seen this in what people say about guitars - A lot of the budget guitars sold in the US are made in other countries (Mexico, China, Indonesia, and Korea, among others). It used to be that
a lot of people would say US-made guitars are better in quality, but
these days, I've seen a lot of reviews of such guitars saying their
build quality is excellent.
As long as a guitar can stay in tune with a moderate amount of bending, isn't it as good as the next?
Shitty wrote to Nightfox <=-
As long as a guitar can stay in tune with a moderate amount of bending, isn't it as good as the next?
I've had a variety of them (electrics.) The ones that I miss the most
are the cheapest rip-offs, like my old Biscayne Six (a strat copy) and
my old Hondo V.
As long as a guitar can stay in tune with a moderate amount of bending, isn't it as good as the next?
I've had a variety of them (electrics.) The ones that I miss the most are the cheapest rip-offs, like my old Biscayne Six (a strat copy) and my old Hondo V.
See if the G string stays in tune on a Les Paul. Even the Les Real I built can't.
As long as a guitar can stay in tune with a moderate amount of bending, isn't it as good as the next?
Not to me... but then I think that each axe is individual and stands on it's own legs.
But after saying that, I should admit that my current fave is a Chinese made (in the Epiphone Custom shop) Les Paul GoldTop. I only bought it because I went to a music store to buy a bass (which I did), and saw it sitting on a stand. I had been thinking about getting a goldtop Les
Paul, and when I played this one, I fell in love with the action... like playing a stick of butter. I had to have it so I bought both it and the bass. I had not had a guitar that played like that one since my 1966 Gibson Melody Maker. I wish I still had that one.
But I am comparing this Les Paul to all of my high-dollar, American made Fenders, Gibsons, G&Ls and PRSes and while they are great guitars one
and all (and all for sale I might add), none of them measure up to the playability of the LP (which is NOT for sale.)
I've had a variety of them (electrics.) The ones that I miss the most are the cheapest rip-offs, like my old Biscayne Six (a strat copy) an my old Hondo V.
Hondo's were actually pretty good guitars. If it good enough to get sued for, it's got to be a pretty good guitar. I've got an Electra tele copy that is bulletproof.
What are G&Ls?
Bf2k+ wrote to Grease <=-
See if the G string stays in tune on a Les Paul. Even the Les Real I built can't.
It stays in tune perfectly on my Epiphone Les Paul.
What are G&Ls? I've seen PRS guitars. What do you get in exchange for all the money of the world? <jk>
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