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    From Zazz@1:124/5014 to All on Fri Oct 14 15:20:57 2016
    Anyone got this combo working?

    Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Zazz on Fri Oct 14 22:37:10 2016
    On 14 Oct 16 15:20:57, Zazz said the following to All:

    Anyone got this combo working?

    Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz

    You and I will, if you explain more about how VADV imports and stores mail.

    Nick

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Nick Andre on Sat Oct 15 16:36:26 2016

    Hello Nick!

    14 Oct 16 22:37, you wrote to Zazz:

    You and I will, if you explain more about how VADV imports and stores mail.

    Ezycom grumble grumble.

    Shawn


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  • From Zazz@1:124/5014 to Nick Andre on Sat Oct 15 18:34:48 2016
    Anyone got this combo working?
    You and I will, if you explain more about how VADV imports and stores mail.

    I receive echo mail just fine. Dbridge receives the mail and I run vfido.exe with with a /u or /r. the /u vfido to unpack what was received in the
    inbound folder, in this case \va\fido\in1. (I don't have DBridge unpack.)

    The outbound folder for VADV is \va\fido\out\000001 (which is if you are on node 1 is where the packet is placed. *.fr0

    I told DBridge that the \va\fido\out\000001 is the Temp Queue. So when I
    tell DBridge to refresh the queue it does it's thing, the 000001 folder is emptied but nothing shows up in the Queue

    pkzip and pkunzip are both in the DB folder.

    I'll have to find out how the message base is stored. It is in a database as far as I understand it but do not know anything else.

    Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
    Mystic Prison Board Sysop
    telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
    Web: www.rdfig.net

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Oct 15 21:27:09 2016
    On 15 Oct 16 16:36:26, Shawn Highfield said the following to Nick Andre:

    Hello Nick!

    14 Oct 16 22:37, you wrote to Zazz:

    You and I will, if you explain more about how VADV imports and stores mail.

    Ezycom grumble grumble.

    I didn't ask him for beers yet... he doesn't know the deal.

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Zazz on Sun Oct 16 22:37:19 2016
    On 15 Oct 16 18:34:48, Zazz said the following to Nick Andre:

    The outbound folder for VADV is \va\fido\out\000001 (which is if you are on node 1 is where the packet is placed. *.fr0

    I told DBridge that the \va\fido\out\000001 is the Temp Queue. So when I tell DBridge to refresh the queue it does it's thing, the 000001 folder is emptied but nothing shows up in the Queue

    That right there is the problem. The directory you tried in D'Bridge is
    unique to D'Bridge and must NEVER be shared with ANY other program. The F1 Help screen warns of this. You are losing mail and deleting packets this way.

    Under absolutely NO circumstances should the Queue and Temporary Packets directory be shared with other software; unless that software is specifically designed and tested to work with D'Bridge.

    But read below...

    I'll have to find out how the message base is stored. It is in a database a far as I understand it but do not know anything else.

    The biggest challenge with BBS software that uses proprietary storage formats for mail, is what to do when it comes time to make them play nicely with 3rd-party software to actually do Fido stuff. At the bare minimum, the BBS software has to have a way to at least create *.MSG-formatted mail files, so that software like D'Bridge can pack it up and build an outbound Queue entry.

    This isn't a D'Bridge problem; no 3rd-party mailer can work with your BBS software unless there is a "common ground" for the two to exchange mail with. Not Frontdoor, not Intermail, not Binkleyterm... nothing can work.

    So the goal is to figure out how VADV can work with *.MSG storage for Netmail and a method known as ArcMail file-attaches. This will allow D'Bridge to
    work with your BBS software; though I will recommend the way is to allow D'Bridge to process all Netmail AND Echomail outgoing messages using the internal tosser.

    I know VADV is popular in some circles, so I'm sure there is a way?

    Nick

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  • From Zazz@1:124/5014 to Nick Andre on Mon Oct 17 09:17:18 2016
    The biggest challenge with BBS software that uses proprietary storage formats for mail, is what to do when it comes time to make them play nicely with 3rd-party software to actually do Fido stuff. At the bare minimum, the BBS software has to have a way to at least create *.MSG-formatted mail files, so that software like D'Bridge can pack it
    up and build an outbound Queue entry.

    That explains a lot. I am in contact with Steve Winn, VADV support. I will pass this info on to him.

    So the goal is to figure out how VADV can work with *.MSG storage for Netmail and a method known as ArcMail file-attaches. This will allow D'Bridge to work with your BBS software; though I will recommend the way is to allow D'Bridge to process all Netmail AND Echomail outgoing
    messages using the internal tosser.

    Ok, then I will look into this also

    Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
    Mystic Prison Board Sysop
    telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
    Web: www.rdfig.net

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