• *NIH admits US funded Wuhan gain-of-function research - despite Fauci?

    From August Abolins@2:460/256 to All on Fri Oct 22 18:30:45 2021
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    *NIH admits US funded Wuhan gain-of-function research - despite Fauci?s repeated denials*

    Lawrence Tabak confessed to Rep. lawmnakers that the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in fact DID fund Wuhan virus research involving bat coronaviruses, contrary to Dr. Anthony Fauci?s stringent denial of gain-of-function funding.

    In his letter Tabak doesn?t categorically state the term "gain of function", but refers to "research involving enhanced pathogens of pandemic potential" - leaving critics to slate the word games covering up a full admission of gain-of-function development.

    He insists the strains researched couldn?t have led to the Covid-19 outbreak as they were "genetically very distant" - about 96-7% similarity, or the same as between humans and chimpanzees.

    Can Fauci acro-bat-ically flap his way out of this one?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to August Abolins on Fri Oct 22 09:07:53 2021
    Hello August,

    *NIH admits US funded Wuhan gain-of-function research - despite
    Fauci?s repeated denials*

    Lawrence Tabak confessed to Rep. lawmnakers that the National
    Institutes of Health (NIH) in fact DID fund Wuhan virus research
    involving bat coronaviruses, contrary to Dr. Anthony Fauci?s stringent denial of gain-of-function funding.

    In his letter Tabak doesn?t categorically state the term "gain of function", but refers to "research involving enhanced pathogens of pandemic potential" - leaving critics to slate the word games covering
    up a full admission of gain-of-function development.

    He insists the strains researched couldn?t have led to the Covid-19 outbreak as they were "genetically very distant" - about 96-7%
    similarity, or the same as between humans and chimpanzees.

    This is not some new revelation. The NIH is active in research and this research is known.

    This talk of "gain of function" is new, brought up by men like Rand Paul.

    Can Fauci acro-bat-ically flap his way out of this one?

    There is no need of acrobatics.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/6 to Alan Ianson on Tue Oct 26 03:35:08 2021
    On 10/22/2021 2:07 AM, between "Alan Ianson - August Abolins":

    This is not some new revelation. The NIH is active in research and
    this research is known.

    The problem is what was actually going on.

    The investigating reporting in:

    [1] What Really Happened In Wuhan: A Virus Like No Other, Countless Infections, Millions of Deaths | Hardcover -by- Sharri Markson

    Published Sep 28, 2021

    [2] On the Origin of the Deadliest Pandemic in 100 Years: An Investigation | Paperback -by- Elaine Dewar

    Published Aug 31, 2021

    ...is not something Rand Paul came up with.


    This talk of "gain of function" is new, brought up by men like Rand
    Paul.

    Gain- and loss-of-function seem to be activities conducted by virologists. But in this case, covid-19 seemed to be studied for gain, when something got loose.

    Can Fauci acro-bat-ically flap his way out of this one?

    There is no need of acrobatics.

    We shall see in the days to come.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to August Abolins on Mon Oct 25 20:23:49 2021
    Hello August,

    This is not some new revelation. The NIH is active in research and
    this research is known.

    The problem is what was actually going on.

    What is the claim of what was actually going on?

    The investigating reporting in:

    [1] What Really Happened In Wuhan: A Virus Like No Other, Countless Infections, Millions of Deaths | Hardcover -by- Sharri Markson

    Published Sep 28, 2021

    [2] On the Origin of the Deadliest Pandemic in 100 Years: An
    Investigation | Paperback -by- Elaine Dewar

    Published Aug 31, 2021

    I don't know Elaine Dewar but I just did a quick search and I don't find any links to virology or science for her, or is this non scientific?

    ...is not something Rand Paul came up with.

    No, he didn't. It was a talking point that he and others brought up.

    Gain- and loss-of-function seem to be activities conducted by
    virologists. But in this case, covid-19 seemed to be studied for gain, when something got loose.

    I am interested to know what claims have been made against Fauci.

    Can Fauci acro-bat-ically flap his way out of this one?

    There is no need of acrobatics.

    We shall see in the days to come.

    OK.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From John Dovey@2:460/256 to Alan Ianson on Tue Oct 26 22:35:29 2021
    Glad to see you, Alan!

    Hello August,
    This is not some new revelation. The NIH is active in research and
    this research is known.
    What is the claim of what was actually going on?
    I don't know Elaine Dewar but I just did a quick search and I don't find any links to virology or science for her, or is this non scientific?
    No, he didn't. It was a talking point that he and others brought up.
    I am interested to know what claims have been made against Fauci.
    Can Fauci acro-bat-ically flap his way out of this one?

    There is no need of acrobatics.
    OK.
    Ttyl :-),
    Al
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    The claim against Fauci is that he knowingly lied to Congress when asked about the research at the Wuhan lab.
    It is now proven fact that the NIH WAS in fact funding research taking place there, which Fauci at first denied then admitted to, albeit claiming that the research wasn't "gain of function". That is now factually disputed by the NIH itself.
    The term "Gain of Function" is a term used by the NIH itself in defining the type of research that they are permitted to fund. It's illegal for them to do so. That's why Facuci denied doing so. Rand Paul was using the term as it came from the NIH.

    Then there is the lab funded by the NIH where research ws done on puppies who had their ability to make noises removed so researchers wouldn't be bothered by the sounds of them crying and whimpering.

    No matter which way you slice this, the narrative has gone against Fauci and his supporters. Once there are crying puppies involved, it's all over ?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to John Dovey on Tue Oct 26 15:48:27 2021
    Hello John,

    The claim against Fauci is that he knowingly lied to Congress when
    asked about the research at the Wuhan lab.

    Congress is going to be mad as hell!

    It is now proven fact that the NIH WAS in fact funding research taking place there, which Fauci at first denied then admitted to, albeit
    claiming that the research wasn't "gain of function".

    It is well known that NIH was doing this research and possibly more we don't now about.

    That is now factually disputed by the NIH itself. The term "Gain of Function" is a term used by the NIH itself in defining the type of research that they are permitted to fund. It's illegal for them to do
    so. That's why Facuci denied doing so.

    What makes you think it is illegal? I just read that in 2017 the NIH had resumed funding gain of function research that was paused in 2014.

    Rand Paul was using the term as it came from the NIH.

    Rand Paul and his ilk are a different issue.

    Then there is the lab funded by the NIH where research ws done on
    puppies who had their ability to make noises removed so researchers wouldn't be bothered by the sounds of them crying and whimpering.

    This is terrible but this is not the issue here. Things like this probably happen in research settings.

    No matter which way you slice this, the narrative has gone against
    Fauci and his supporters. Once there are crying puppies involved, it's
    all over ?

    Wrong.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Alan Ianson on Fri Oct 29 21:11:00 2021
    Hello Alan Ianson!

    ** On Monday 25.10.21 - 20:23, Alan Ianson wrote to August Abolins:

    I am interested to know what claims have been made against
    Fauci.

    Can Fauci acro-bat-ically flap his way out of this one?

    There is no need of acrobatics.

    We shall see in the days to come.

    OK.

    You won't have to wait much longer..

    Title: The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the
    Global War on Democracy and Public Health | Hardcover -by-
    Robert F Kennedy

    Pub: Children's Health Defense (series), Skyhorse.

    Release date Nov 16, 2021

    "The Real Anthony Fauci reveals how "America's Doctor" launched
    his career during the early AIDS crisis by partnering with
    pharmaceutical companies to sabotage safe and effective off-
    patent therapeutic treatments for AIDS. Fauci orchestrated
    fraudulent studies, and then pressured US Food and Drug
    Administration (FDA) regulators into approving a deadly
    chemotherapy treatment he had good reason to know was worthless
    against AIDS. Fauci repeatedly violated federal laws to allow
    his Pharma partners to use impoverished and dark-skinned
    children as lab rats in deadly experiments with toxic AIDS and
    cancer chemotherapies.

    "In early 2000, Fauci shook hands with Bill Gates in the
    library of Gates' $147 million Seattle mansion, cementing a
    partnership that would aim to control an increasingly
    profitable $60 billion global vaccine enterprise with unlimited
    growth potential. Through funding leverage and carefully
    cultivated personal relationships with heads of state and
    leading media and social media institutions, the Pharma-Fauci-
    Gates alliance exercises dominion over global health policy.

    "The Real Anthony Fauci details how Fauci, Gates, and their
    cohorts use their control of media outlets, scientific
    journals, key government and quasi-governmental agencies,
    global intelligence agencies, and influential scientists and
    physicians to flood the public with fearful propaganda about
    COVID-19 virulence and pathogenesis, and to muzzle debate and
    ruthlessly censor dissent.
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to August Abolins on Fri Oct 29 18:48:50 2021
    Hello August,

    [...]

    "The Real Anthony Fauci details how Fauci, Gates, and their
    cohorts use their control of media outlets, scientific
    journals, key government and quasi-governmental agencies,
    global intelligence agencies, and influential scientists and
    physicians to flood the public with fearful propaganda about
    COVID-19 virulence and pathogenesis, and to muzzle debate and
    ruthlessly censor dissent.

    https://tinyurl.com/y2rf7v73

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Alan Ianson on Thu Nov 25 20:13:00 2021
    Hello Alan Ianson!

    ** On Friday 29.10.21 - 18:48, Alan Ianson wrote to August Abolins:

    "The Real Anthony Fauci details how Fauci, Gates, and their
    cohorts use their control of media outlets, scientific
    journals, key government and quasi-governmental agencies,
    global intelligence agencies, and influential scientists and
    physicians to flood the public with fearful propaganda about
    COVID-19 virulence and pathogenesis, and to muzzle debate and
    ruthlessly censor dissent.

    hxxps://tinyurl.com/y2rf7v73

    That article doesn't even address the content of the book. The
    writer of the article just attacks RFK personaly. Based on
    other articles by the same woman, she just seems to have a
    problem with everything - except the Real Housewives of LA,
    which she praises as good TV. Her comments are omething I would
    expect in the tabloids available at the checkout counter.

    For a proper glimpse on RFK's message check out:

    https://www.corbettreport.com/fauci/


    And for those of you just hopping on to this thread, my
    original post was about the annoucement of a new book entitled:

    The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global
    War on Democracy and Public Health | Hardcover
    Robert F Kennedy
    Children's Health Defense (series)
    Skyhorse | Skyhorse
    Health & Fitness / Vaccinations / Science / Ethics / Biography & Autobiography / Science & Technology
    Release date Nov 16, 2021 | Demand (#311)
    $32.50 US / $44.00 CA list price

    It is already into its 2nd printing.
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