Åα¿óÑΓßΓóπε ΓÑí∩, All!

Both my direct links in R50 don't support this area. But I found a link in
Z1. So let's try:

ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ . . .

æ ñαπªÑ߬¿¼ »α¿óÑΓ«¼,
Herman Neut

e-mail: h.neutnospam@hccnet.nl

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Hello, Herman!


11 Nov 06 at 01:11 you wrote to All:

@MSGID: 2:280/1141 aa8bb185
@PID: TerMail 5/Pro ffdca2c37b
@CHRS: IBMPC 2
@TZUTC: 0100
@GIF: HNEUT
Åα¿óÑΓßΓóπε ΓÑí∩, All!

Both my direct links in R50 don't support this area. But I found a
link in Z1. So let's try:

ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ . . .

»áßßÑñ

æ ñαπªÑ߬¿¼ »α¿óÑΓ«¼,
Herman Neut

e-mail: h.neutnospam@hccnet.nl

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SEEN-BY: 123/500 132/500 140/1 280/1141 379/1 5020/1042 10192
@PATH: 280/1141 140/1 123/500 379/1 132/500 5020/1042 10192

Be happy, Herman!
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Herman Neut -> All wrote:

Åα¿óÑΓßΓóπε ΓÑí∩, All!

Both my direct links in R50 don't support this area. But I found a link in Z1. So let's try:

Hi Herman :)
This seems to be an echo where 2 zones claim to have ownership:(
where 1 side dislikes cyrilc and the other duslikes the latin chr sets:(

And I know "ne"(ru) bothers you :)

ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ . . .

æ ñαπªÑ߬¿¼ »α¿óÑΓ«¼,
Herman Neut

e-mail: h.neutnospam@hccnet.nl

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Åα¿óÑΓßΓóπε ΓÑí∩, Nicolay!


û¿Γ¿απε: Nicolay Simonov »¿ßá½(á) Herman Neut
äáΓá/éαѼ∩: 12-Nov-06 / 01:54:26
ÆѼá: Testing new link

Both my direct links in R50 don't support this area. But I found
a link in Z1. So let's try:

Last Link with CHAT was ex-"Mr Postman" (5020/52)

ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ . . .

»áßßÑñ

Ack!
æ»áß¿í«!

Be happy, Herman! np: Ace of base - Don't Turn Around

æτáßΓ½¿ó«, Nicolay!


æ ñαπªÑ߬¿¼ »α¿óÑΓ«¼,
Herman Neut

e-mail: h.neutnospam@hccnet.nl

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Åα¿óÑΓßΓóπε ΓÑí∩, Doug!


û¿Γ¿απε: Doug Connor »¿ßá½(á) Herman Neut
äáΓá/éαѼ∩: 12-Nov-06 / 06:10:06
ÆѼá: Testing new link

Both my direct links in R50 don't support this area. But I found
a link in Z1. So let's try:

Long time not been in this echo. Since 2:5020/52 unplug-ed his fido node.
Got a new Moscow (N5020) uplink and another in N5066. But no one has CHAT

After I was invited by Bob Seaborn to establish a direct link, I found CHAT
in his list of available areas.
So just a areafix and 2 sec later it was fixed;-)

Hi Herman :) This seems to be an echo where 2 zones claim to have ownership:( where 1 side dislikes cyrilc and the other duslikes
the latin chr sets:(

I can type/read both. And, AFAIK, you too;-)

And I know "ne"(ru) bothers you :)

Is that so? ;-)

ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ . . .

æ ñαπªÑ߬¿¼ »α¿óÑΓ«¼,
Herman Neut

e-mail: h.neutnospam@hccnet.nl

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Herman Neut -> Doug Connor wrote:

Åα¿óÑΓßΓóπε ΓÑí∩, Doug!

û¿Γ¿απε: Doug Connor »¿ßá½(á) Herman Neut
äáΓá/éαѼ∩: 12-Nov-06 / 06:10:06
ÆѼá: Testing new link

Both my direct links in R50 don't support this area. But I found
a link in Z1. So let's try:

Hrm so maybe what I send to michael 5020/1042 only gets as far as his links?

Long time not been in this echo. Since 2:5020/52 unplug-ed his fido node. Got a new Moscow (N5020) uplink and another in N5066. But no one has CHAT

I could never get any echo's from my link with 2:5020/52 when it
existed.
I always got a not in zone 2 error from his areafix.
(Why link to a z2 hub if not to get z2 echos?)
Me I have a few links from moscow and one in spb and also 1 in taganrog(5060). then also one at 2:461/700 Alex but he has gone, only his system still runs.

After I was invited by Bob Seaborn to establish a direct link, I found

CHAT

in his list of available areas.
So just a areafix and 2 sec later it was fixed;-)

:)
And I bet it is a good link too.

Hi Herman :) This seems to be an echo where 2 zones claim to have
ownership:( where 1 side dislikes cyrilc and the other duslikes
the latin chr sets:(

I can type/read both. And, AFAIK, you too;-)

And I know "ne"(ru) bothers you :)

Is that so? ;-)

ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ . . .

Sorry for my poetic use of ne (not) (doesn't).

æ ñαπªÑ߬¿¼ »α¿óÑΓ«¼,
Herman Neut

e-mail: h.neutnospam@hccnet.nl

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Åα¿óÑΓßΓóπε ΓÑí∩, Doug!


û¿Γ¿απε: Doug Connor »¿ßá½(á) Herman Neut
äáΓá/éαѼ∩: 12-Nov-06 / 12:43:18
ÆѼá: Testing new link

û¿Γ¿απε: Doug Connor »¿ßá½(á) Herman Neut äáΓá/éαѼ∩: 12-Nov-06 /
06:10:06 ÆѼá: Testing new link

Both my direct links in R50 don't support this area. But I
found a link in Z1. So let's try:

Hrm so maybe what I send to michael 5020/1042 only gets as far as
his links?

Dunno;-)

Until now, I've seen only msg from R50 originated by 2 different points.

@* Origin: àß½¿ π ΓÑí∩ »«σ¼Ñ½∞Ñ, º¡áτ¿Γ Γδ ¡Ñπ¼ÑÑΦ∞ »¿Γ∞. (2:5058/72.6) SEEN!BY: 1/3 10/3 18/0 105/360 106/1 2000 6018 109/568 112/200 120/544 123/0 52 SEEN!BY: 123/500 789 132/500 134/77 135/364 138/146 389 140/1 17 226/600 SEEN!BY: 229/2000 3000 250/501 261/38 280/1141 342/5 379/1 2 45 337 1200 382/61 SEEN!BY: 396/45 633/267 757/1 772/1 3830/9
@PATH: 5058/72 26 42 5080/1003 5020/4441 1042 132/500 379/1 123/500 140/1

and:
@ Origin: Centr-O Station, Moscow, Russia (2:5020/10192.5)
SEEN!BY: 1/3 10/3 18/0 105/360 106/1 2000 6018 109/568 112/200 120/544 123/0 52 SEEN!BY: 123/500 789 132/500 134/77 135/364 138/146 389 140/1 17 226/600 SEEN!BY: 229/2000 3000 250/501 261/38 280/1141 342/5 379/1 2 45 337 1200 382/61 @PATH: 5020/10192 1042 132/500 379/1 123/500 140/1


There are _at_ _least_ in R50 linked:

5058/72 5058/26 5058/42 5080/1003 5020/4441 5020/1042 and 5020/10192
^^^^^^^^^Michael


Anyway, 5020/715 and 5066/18 (my direct links) do not support CHAT.

Long time not been in this echo. Since 2:5020/52 unplug-ed his
fido node. Got a new Moscow (N5020) uplink and another in N5066.
But no one has CHAT

I could never get any echo's from my link with 2:5020/52 when it
existed. I always got a not in zone 2 error from his areafix. (Why
link to a z2 hub if not to get z2 echos?) Me I have a few links
from moscow and one in spb and also 1 in taganrog(5060). then also
one at 2:461/700 Alex but he has gone, only his system still runs.

After I was invited by Bob Seaborn to establish a direct link, I
found

CHA

in his list of available areas. So just a areafix and 2 sec later
it was fixed;-)

:) And I bet it is a good link too.

Sure he is..

Hi Herman :) This seems to be an echo where 2 zones claim to
have ownership:( where 1 side dislikes cyrilc and the other
duslikes the latin chr sets:(

I can type/read both. And, AFAIK, you too;-)

And I know "ne"(ru) bothers you :)

Is that so? ;-)

ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ . . .

Sorry for my poetic use of ne (not) (doesn't).

I can read/understand HÑ (Ne) ;-)

My editor cannot save/export cyrillic H (so I type Latin H) Reading
cyrillic H is no problem.


æ ñαπªÑ߬¿¼ »α¿óÑΓ«¼,
Herman Neut

e-mail: h.neutnospam@hccnet.nl

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Herman Neut -> Doug Connor wrote:

Åα¿óÑΓßΓóπε ΓÑí∩, Doug!

û¿Γ¿απε: Doug Connor »¿ßá½(á) Herman Neut
äáΓá/éαѼ∩: 12-Nov-06 / 12:43:18
ÆѼá: Testing new link

û¿Γ¿απε: Doug Connor »¿ßá½(á) Herman Neut äáΓá/éαѼ∩: 12-Nov-06 /
06:10:06 ÆѼá: Testing new link

Both my direct links in R50 don't support this area. But I
found a link in Z1. So let's try:

Hrm so maybe what I send to michael 5020/1042 only gets as far as
his links?

Dunno;-)

Until now, I've seen only msg from R50 originated by 2 different points.

@* Origin: àß½¿ π ΓÑí∩ »«σ¼Ñ½∞Ñ, º¡áτ¿Γ Γδ ¡Ñπ¼ÑÑΦ∞ »¿Γ∞. (2:5058/72.6) SEEN!BY: 1/3 10/3 18/0 105/360 106/1 2000 6018 109/568 112/200 120/544 123/0 52
SEEN!BY: 123/500 789 132/500 134/77 135/364 138/146 389 140/1 17 226/600 SEEN!BY: 229/2000 3000 250/501 261/38 280/1141 342/5 379/1 2 45 337 1200 382/61
SEEN!BY: 396/45 633/267 757/1 772/1 3830/9
@PATH: 5058/72 26 42 5080/1003 5020/4441 1042 132/500 379/1 123/500 140/1

and:
@ Origin: Centr-O Station, Moscow, Russia (2:5020/10192.5)
SEEN!BY: 1/3 10/3 18/0 105/360 106/1 2000 6018 109/568 112/200 120/544 123/0 52
SEEN!BY: 123/500 789 132/500 134/77 135/364 138/146 389 140/1 17 226/600 SEEN!BY: 229/2000 3000 250/501 261/38 280/1141 342/5 379/1 2 45 337 1200 382/61
@PATH: 5020/10192 1042 132/500 379/1 123/500 140/1

There are _at_ _least_ in R50 linked:

5058/72 5058/26 5058/42 5080/1003 5020/4441 5020/1042 and 5020/10192
^^^^^^^^^Michael

You know I have tryed to get hpt to stop striping seenbys
but it seems it is built in. I just got a newer version so maybe
it will be coperative?

I can see by the above seenby lines that fastecho can be told not to strip the seenbys:) (Z3)

Anyway, 5020/715 and 5066/18 (my direct links) do not support CHAT.

Long time not been in this echo. Since 2:5020/52 unplug-ed his
fido node. Got a new Moscow (N5020) uplink and another in N5066.
But no one has CHAT

I could never get any echo's from my link with 2:5020/52 when it
existed. I always got a not in zone 2 error from his areafix. (Why
link to a z2 hub if not to get z2 echos?) Me I have a few links
from moscow and one in spb and also 1 in taganrog(5060). then also
one at 2:461/700 Alex but he has gone, only his system still runs.

After I was invited by Bob Seaborn to establish a direct link, I
found

CHA

in his list of available areas. So just a areafix and 2 sec later
it was fixed;-)

:) And I bet it is a good link too.

Sure he is..

Hi Herman :) This seems to be an echo where 2 zones claim to
have ownership:( where 1 side dislikes cyrilc and the other
duslikes the latin chr sets:(

I can type/read both. And, AFAIK, you too;-)

And I know "ne"(ru) bothers you :)

Is that so? ;-)

ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ . . .

Sorry for my poetic use of ne (not) (doesn't).

I can read/understand HÑ (Ne) ;-)

My editor cannot save/export cyrillic H (so I type Latin H) Reading cyrillic H is no problem.

right now my news/mail reader has a problem sending crylics
but it is a wierd problem that does not happen all the thime


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Åα¿óÑΓßΓóπε ΓÑí∩, Doug!


û¿Γ¿απε: Doug Connor »¿ßá½(á) Herman Neut
äáΓá/éαѼ∩: 13-Nov-06 / 15:28:30
ÆѼá: Testing new link

Both my direct links in R50 don't support this area. But I
found a link in Z1. So let's try:

Hrm so maybe what I send to michael 5020/1042 only gets as far
as his links?

Dunno;-)

Until now, I've seen only msg from R50 originated by 2 different
points.

@* Origin: àß½¿ π ΓÑí∩ »«σ¼Ñ½∞Ñ, º¡áτ¿Γ Γδ ¡Ñπ¼ÑÑΦ∞ »¿Γ∞.
(2:5058/72.6) SEEN!BY: 1/3 10/3 18/0 105/360 106/1 2000 6018
109/568 112/200 120/544 123/0 52 SEEN!BY: 123/500 789 132/500
134/77 135/364 138/146 389 140/1 17 226/600 SEEN!BY: 229/2000
3000 250/501 261/38 280/1141 342/5 379/1 2 45 337 1200 382/61
SEEN!BY: 396/45 633/267 757/1 772/1 3830/9 @PATH: 5058/72 26 42
5080/1003 5020/4441 1042 132/500 379/1 123/500 140/1

and: @ Origin: Centr-O Station, Moscow, Russia (2:5020/10192.5)
SEEN!BY: 1/3 10/3 18/0 105/360 106/1 2000 6018 109/568 112/200
120/544 123/0 52 SEEN!BY: 123/500 789 132/500 134/77 135/364
138/146 389 140/1 17 226/600 SEEN!BY: 229/2000 3000 250/501
261/38 280/1141 342/5 379/1 2 45 337 1200 382/61 @PATH:
5020/10192 1042 132/500 379/1 123/500 140/1

There are _at_ _least_ in R50 linked:

5058/72 5058/26 5058/42 5080/1003 5020/4441 5020/1042 and
5020/10192 ^^^^^^^^^Michael

You know I have tryed to get hpt to stop striping seenbys but it
seems it is built in. I just got a newer version so maybe it will
be coperative?

I have objections against striping seenbys too.
Has no implications for my node software. I'm a "leaf-node" ;-)

But I know a very little more now.
Did read in the daily "traffic report" from my HUB (in R28) there was
traffic in CHAT
I never found CHAT before in his list of available areas. Only for test, I have linked this echo via my HUB too;-)

So I got your msg twice at about the same time.

The first via 1:140/1
-!- Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716)
@ Origin: <The Harbinger Jamnntpd news://vtdl.net> (1:132/500)
SEEN!BY: 1/3 10/3 18/0 105/360 106/1 2000 6018 109/568 112/200 120/544 123/0 52 SEEN!BY: 123/500 789 132/500 134/77 135/364 138/146 389 140/1 17 226/600 SEEN!BY: 229/2000 3000 250/501 261/38 280/1141 342/5 379/1 2 45 337 1200 382/61 SEEN!BY: 396/45 633/267 757/1 772/1 3830/9
@PATH: 132/500 379/1 123/500 140/1

The 2nd via 2:280 5003

-!- Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716)
@ Origin: <The Harbinger Jamnntpd news://vtdl.net> (1:132/500)
SEEN!BY: 24/905 240/2188 5138 246/2027 280/1141 5003 313/41 423/81 774/605 SEEN!BY: 2411/413 2432/0 200 201 215 300 2433/401 2437/40 2443/1311
@PATH: 132/500 379/1 123/500 774/605 2432/200 280/5003

I don't find/recognise R50 nodes in both seenbys and paths.

The last one has many seenbys in the German and Austria nets (2:2432/280 is
a direct link of my HUB)

Strange is that 423/81 and 774/605 are not in my latest nodelists
Perhaps something went wrong with our latest nodediff, while 774/605 is in
the path;-)


Anyway we can see (first quoted) there are connections with R50 (at least
with N5020 (Moscow) ane N5058

I remember the time, I was linked in Moscow, there was much flow (e.g. from
St. Petersburg area)

I can see by the above seenby lines that fastecho can be told not
to strip the seenbys:) (Z3

Anyway, 5020/715 and 5066/18 (my direct links) do not support
CHAT.

While 5020/715 is an important "mailmover" (he is R50C too)

æ ñαπªÑ߬¿¼ »α¿óÑΓ«¼,
Herman Neut

e-mail: h.neutnospam@hccnet.nl

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Herman Neut -> Doug Connor wrote:

Anyway, 5020/715 and 5066/18 (my direct links) do not support
CHAT.

While 5020/715 is an important "mailmover" (he is R50C too)

Due to technical problems Barinov (5020/715) isn't part of r50 echo-backbone since about a week ago, in his post on http://fidoweb.ru he also advised anyone getting echo feeds from him to switch to other regional hubs.

I currently get most of my R50 echomail (including CHAT ;) from 2:5080/1003

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Herman Neut -> Doug Connor wrote:

Åα¿óÑΓßΓóπε ΓÑí∩, Doug!

<cut>

Did read in the daily "traffic report" from my HUB (in R28) there was traffic in CHAT
I never found CHAT before in his list of available areas. Only for test,

I

have linked this echo via my HUB too;-)

So I got your msg twice at about the same time.

Thats a thing I do at times :)
I tell all my links to send me an echo (the same one) but leave it unconnected in my system for all but one link.
then post there and count the copys in my badmail folder.
You should see some of the paths generated that way:)

The first via 1:140/1
-!- Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716)
@ Origin: <The Harbinger Jamnntpd news://vtdl.net> (1:132/500)
SEEN!BY: 1/3 10/3 18/0 105/360 106/1 2000 6018 109/568 112/200 120/544 123/0 52
SEEN!BY: 123/500 789 132/500 134/77 135/364 138/146 389 140/1 17 226/600 SEEN!BY: 229/2000 3000 250/501 261/38 280/1141 342/5 379/1 2 45 337 1200 382/61
SEEN!BY: 396/45 633/267 757/1 772/1 3830/9
@PATH: 132/500 379/1 123/500 140/1

The 2nd via 2:280 5003

-!- Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716)
@ Origin: <The Harbinger Jamnntpd news://vtdl.net> (1:132/500)
SEEN!BY: 24/905 240/2188 5138 246/2027 280/1141 5003 313/41 423/81 774/605 SEEN!BY: 2411/413 2432/0 200 201 215 300 2433/401 2437/40 2443/1311
@PATH: 132/500 379/1 123/500 774/605 2432/200 280/5003

I don't find/recognise R50 nodes in both seenbys and paths.

The last one has many seenbys in the German and Austria nets (2:2432/280

is

a direct link of my HUB)

Strange is that 423/81 and 774/605 are not in my latest nodelists
Perhaps something went wrong with our latest nodediff, while 774/605 is in the path;-)

Strange they are in my nodelist.?

Anyway we can see (first quoted) there are connections with R50 (at least with N5020 (Moscow) ane N5058

I remember the time, I was linked in Moscow, there was much flow (e.g.

from

St. Petersburg area)

there was a big bunch from Minsk 2:450/* awile ago (years)

I can see by the above seenby lines that fastecho can be told not
to strip the seenbys:) (Z3

Anyway, 5020/715 and 5066/18 (my direct links) do not support
CHAT.

While 5020/715 is an important "mailmover" (he is R50C too)

I think at one time the link between 140/1 and 5020/715 for this
echo was taken down, too many complaints maybe?
so now it is a (if you see it get it) type echo.


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Hello, Doug!


12 Nov 06 at 06:10 you wrote to Herman:

Both my direct links in R50 don't support this area. But I found
a link in Z1. So let's try:

Hi Herman :)
This seems to be an echo where 2 zones claim to have ownership:(
where 1 side dislikes cyrilc and the other duslikes the latin chr
sets:(

Hey, this is not completely true :)

Some people like both! (Me for instance :-)

And I know "ne"(ru) bothers you :)

Be happy, Doug!
np: none
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Hello, Herman!


12 Nov 06 at 10:23 you wrote to me:

Last Link with CHAT was ex-"Mr Postman" (5020/52)

Aw, is it down now? I'm totally not informed about the activity of Moscow nodes..

ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ . . .

»áßßÑñ

Ack!
æ»áß¿í«!

Ç Γδ ßá¼ ó««íΘÑ «Γ¬πñá? :)

Be happy, Herman!
np: none
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Hello, Herman!


12 Nov 06 at 21:51 you wrote to Doug:

Hi Herman :) This seems to be an echo where 2 zones claim to
have ownership:( where 1 side dislikes cyrilc and the other
duslikes the latin chr sets:(

I can type/read both. And, AFAIK, you too;-)

Notably, Doug has skipped this phrase in his answer.

My editor cannot save/export cyrillic H (so I type Latin H) Reading cyrillic H is no problem.

Why not use GoldED :)

Be happy, Herman!
np: none
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Hi Viktor,


Quoting: Viktor Pilpenok to Herman Neut
Date/Time: 14-Nov-06 / 15:07:02
Subject: Testing new link

Herman Neut -> Doug Connor wrote:

Anyway, 5020/715 and 5066/18 (my direct links) do not support
CHAT.

While 5020/715 is an important "mailmover" (he is R50C too)

Due to technical problems Barinov (5020/715) isn't part of r50 echo-backbone since about a week ago, in his post on
http://fidoweb.ru he also advised anyone getting echo feeds from
him to switch to other regional hubs.

I see. Thanks for this info.
I only heard about IP connection at his office (where his node was
situated) After it couldn't be fixed in time, he moved his node to his home adress.

I currently get most of my R50 echomail (including CHAT ;) from 2:5080/1003

Today I can connect CHAT at 1:140/1 and 2:280/5003



Best Regards,
Herman Neut

e-mail: h.neutnospam@hccnet.nl

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Hi Doug,


Quoting: Herman Neut to Doug Connor
Date/Time: 14-Nov-06 / 12:00:21
Subject: Testing new link

Åα¿óÑΓßΓóπε ΓÑí∩, Doug!

û¿Γ¿απε: Doug Connor »¿ßá½(á) Herman Neut
äáΓá/éαѼ∩: 13-Nov-06 / 15:28:30
ÆѼá: Testing new link

Both my direct links in R50 don't support this area. But I
found a link in Z1. So let's try:

Hrm so maybe what I send to michael 5020/1042 only gets as far
as his links?

Dunno;-)

Until now, I've seen only msg from R50 originated by 2 different
points.

@* Origin: àß½¿ π ΓÑí∩ »«σ¼Ñ½∞Ñ, º¡áτ¿Γ Γδ ¡Ñπ¼ÑÑΦ∞ »¿Γ∞.
(2:5058/72.6) SEEN!BY: 1/3 10/3 18/0 105/360 106/1 2000 6018
109/568 112/200 120/544 123/0 52 SEEN!BY: 123/500 789 132/500
134/77 135/364 138/146 389 140/1 17 226/600 SEEN!BY: 229/2000
3000 250/501 261/38 280/1141 342/5 379/1 2 45 337 1200 382/61
SEEN!BY: 396/45 633/267 757/1 772/1 3830/9 @PATH: 5058/72 26 42
5080/1003 5020/4441 1042 132/500 379/1 123/500 140/1

and: @ Origin: Centr-O Station, Moscow, Russia (2:5020/10192.5)
SEEN!BY: 1/3 10/3 18/0 105/360 106/1 2000 6018 109/568 112/200
120/544 123/0 52 SEEN!BY: 123/500 789 132/500 134/77 135/364
138/146 389 140/1 17 226/600 SEEN!BY: 229/2000 3000 250/501
261/38 280/1141 342/5 379/1 2 45 337 1200 382/61 @PATH:
5020/10192 1042 132/500 379/1 123/500 140/1

There are _at_ _least_ in R50 linked:

5058/72 5058/26 5058/42 5080/1003 5020/4441 5020/1042 and
5020/10192 ^^^^^^^^^Michael

You know I have tryed to get hpt to stop striping seenbys but it
seems it is built in. I just got a newer version so maybe it will
be coperative?

I have objections against striping seenbys too.
Has no implications for my node software. I'm a "leaf-node" ;-)

But I know a very little more now.
Did read in the daily "traffic report" from my HUB (in R28) there was traffic in CHAT
I never found CHAT before in his list of available areas. Only for test, I
have linked this echo via my HUB too;-)

So I got your msg twice at about the same time.

The first via 1:140/1
-!- Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716)
@ Origin: <The Harbinger Jamnntpd news://vtdl.net> (1:132/500)
SEEN!BY: 1/3 10/3 18/0 105/360 106/1 2000 6018 109/568 112/200 120/544 123/0 52
SEEN!BY: 123/500 789 132/500 134/77 135/364 138/146 389 140/1 17 226/600 SEEN!BY: 229/2000 3000 250/501 261/38 280/1141 342/5 379/1 2 45 337 1200 382/61
SEEN!BY: 396/45 633/267 757/1 772/1 3830/9
@PATH: 132/500 379/1 123/500 140/1

The 2nd via 2:280 5003

-!- Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716)
@ Origin: <The Harbinger Jamnntpd news://vtdl.net> (1:132/500)
SEEN!BY: 24/905 240/2188 5138 246/2027 280/1141 5003 313/41 423/81
774/605
SEEN!BY: 2411/413 2432/0 200 201 215 300 2433/401 2437/40 2443/1311
@PATH: 132/500 379/1 123/500 774/605 2432/200 280/5003

I don't find/recognise R50 nodes in both seenbys and paths.

The last one has many seenbys in the German and Austria nets (2:2432/280 is
a direct link of my HUB)

Strange is that 423/81 and 774/605 are not in my latest nodelists
Perhaps something went wrong with our latest nodediff, while 774/605 is
in
the path;-)

Anyway we can see (first quoted) there are connections with R50 (at least with N5020 (Moscow) ane N5058

I remember the time, I was linked in Moscow, there was much flow (e.g. from
St. Petersburg area)

I can see by the above seenby lines that fastecho can be told not
to strip the seenbys:) (Z3

Anyway, 5020/715 and 5066/18 (my direct links) do not support
CHAT.

While 5020/715 is an important "mailmover" (he is R50C too)

æ ñαπªÑ߬¿¼ »α¿óÑΓ«¼,
Herman Neut

e-mail: h.neutnospam@hccnet.nl

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SEEN!BY: 24/905 240/2188 5138 246/2027 280/1141 5003 313/41 423/81
774/605
SEEN!BY: 2411/413 2432/0 200 201 215 300 2433/401 2437/40 2443/1311
@PATH: 280/1141 140/1 123/500 774/605 2432/200 280/5003

^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^
At least the "double link" works;-))

Got my own msg back via my other link, after traveling around the globe. Somewhere "my" (initiated by my system) seenby was truncated when passing a zone.



Best Regards,
Herman Neut

e-mail: h.neutnospam@hccnet.nl

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Åα¿óÑΓßΓóπε ΓÑí∩, Nicolay!


û¿Γ¿απε: Nicolay Simonov »¿ßá½(á) Doug Connor
äáΓá/éαѼ∩: 14-Nov-06 / 22:33:58
ÆѼá: Testing new link

Hello, Doug!

12 Nov 06 at 06:10 you wrote to Herman:

Both my direct links in R50 don't support this area. But I found
a link in Z1. So let's try:

Hi Herman :) This seems to be an echo where 2 zones claim to have
ownership:( where 1 side dislikes cyrilc and the other duslikes
the latin chr sets:(

Hey, this is not completely true :)

Some people like both! (Me for instance :-)

Me too;-)
It doesn't disturb me at all.

ƒ ¡Ñ αáßßΓαá¿óá½ß∩;-)

And I know "ne"(ru) bothers you :)

Be happy, Doug! np: none

éßÑúñá αáñ!


æ ñαπªÑ߬¿¼ »α¿óÑΓ«¼,
Herman Neut

e-mail: h.neutnospam@hccnet.nl

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Åα¿óÑΓßΓóπε ΓÑí∩, Nicolay!


û¿Γ¿απε: Nicolay Simonov »¿ßá½(á) Herman Neut
äáΓá/éαѼ∩: 14-Nov-06 / 22:42:06
ÆѼá: Testing new link

Hello, Herman!

12 Nov 06 at 10:23 you wrote to me:

Last Link with CHAT was ex-"Mr Postman" (5020/52)

Aw, is it down now? I'm totally not informed about the activity of
Moscow nodes.

ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ ÆÑßΓ . . .

»áßßÑñ

Ack! æ»áß¿í«!

Ç Γδ ßá¼ ó««íΘÑ «Γ¬πñá? :)

ƒ τѽ«óѬ, ¬«Γ«αδ⌐ »δΓáÑΓß∩ óδπτ¿Γ∞ απß߬¿⌐

ÄΓ¬yñá ∩ ??????

H¿ñÑp½á¡ñδ ;-)

Be happy, Herman! np: none

æ ñαπªÑ߬¿¼ »α¿óÑΓ«¼,
Herman Neut

e-mail: h.neutnospam@hccnet.nl

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Åα¿óÑΓßΓóπε ΓÑí∩, Nicolay!


û¿Γ¿απε: Nicolay Simonov »¿ßá½(á) Herman Neut
äáΓá/éαѼ∩: 14-Nov-06 / 22:48:28
ÆѼá: Testing new link

Hello, Herman!

12 Nov 06 at 21:51 you wrote to Doug:

Hi Herman :) This seems to be an echo where 2 zones claim to
have ownership:( where 1 side dislikes cyrilc and the other
duslikes the latin chr sets:(

I can type/read both. And, AFAIK, you too;-)

Notably, Doug has skipped this phrase in his answer.

My editor cannot save/export cyrillic H (so I type Latin H)
Reading cyrillic H is no problem.

Why not use GoldED :)

My >12 years old TerMail (DOS based!) still does the job fine. Even under Windows XP and in direct cooperation with BinkD

æ ñαπªÑ߬¿¼ »α¿óÑΓ«¼,
Herman Neut

e-mail: h.neutnospam@hccnet.nl

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Hello, Herman!


14 Nov 06 at 23:34 you wrote to me:

Some people like both! (Me for instance :-)

Me too;-)
It doesn't disturb me at all.

Doug still keeps silence :)


Be happy, Herman!
np: Çp¿∩ - ÆÑíÑ ñáñyΓ º¡á¬
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* Origin: Centr-O Station, Moscow, Russia (2:5020/10192.5)

Hello, Herman!


14 Nov 06 at 23:43 you wrote to me:

Ç Γδ ßá¼ ó««íΘÑ «Γ¬πñá? :)

ƒ τѽ«óѬ, ¬«Γ«αδ⌐ »δΓáÑΓß∩ óδπτ¿Γ∞ απß߬¿⌐

Ç »«τѼπ Γδ óñαπú αÑΦ¿½ øΓ¿¼ ºá¡∩Γ∞ß∩?

ÄΓ¬yñá ∩ ??????

H¿ñÑp½á¡ñδ ;-)

ïεí«»δΓ¡« :)

î¡«ú¿Ñ Γá¼ π óáß απß߬¿⌐ ¿ºπτáεΓ?

Be happy, Herman!
np: Çp¿∩ - ÆÑíÑ ñáñyΓ º¡á¬
--- GoldED+/W32 1.1.5-040321 (WinNT 5.1.2600-Service_Pack_2 i686)
* Origin: Centr-O Station, Moscow, Russia (2:5020/10192.5)

Hello, Herman!


14 Nov 06 at 23:49 you wrote to me:

My >> 12 years old TerMail (DOS based!) still does the job fine. Even
My >> under

Windows XP and in direct cooperation with BinkD

Well, it's up to you to decide :) I too do not like to change software..


Be happy, Herman!
np: Çp¿∩ - ÆÑíÑ ñáñyΓ º¡á¬
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Åα¿óÑΓßΓóπε ΓÑí∩, Nicolay!


û¿Γ¿απε: Nicolay Simonov »¿ßá½(á) Herman Neut
äáΓá/éαѼ∩: 16-Nov-06 / 23:33:56
ÆѼá: Testing new link

Hello, Herman!

14 Nov 06 at 23:43 you wrote to me:

Ç Γδ ßá¼ ó««íΘÑ «Γ¬πñá? :)

ƒ τѽ«óѬ, ¬«Γ«αδ⌐ »δΓáÑΓß∩ óδπτ¿Γ∞ απß߬¿⌐

Ç »«τѼπ Γδ óñαπú αÑΦ¿½ øΓ¿¼ ºá¡∩Γ∞ß∩?

ÄΓ¬yñá ∩ ??????

H¿ñÑp½á¡ñδ ;-)

ïεí«»δΓ¡« :)

î¡«ú¿Ñ Γá¼ π óáß απß߬¿⌐ ¿ºπτáεΓ?

Sorry, but my knowledge of απß߬¿⌐ is very poor:-(

Be happy, Herman! np: Çp¿∩ - ÆÑíÑ ñáñyΓ º¡á¬

;-)


æ ñαπªÑ߬¿¼ »α¿óÑΓ«¼,
Herman Neut

e-mail: h.neutnospam@hccnet.nl

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Nicolay Simonov -> Herman Neut wrote:

Hello, Herman!

14 Nov 06 at 23:34 you wrote to me:

Some people like both! (Me for instance :-)

Me too;-)
It doesn't disturb me at all.

Doug still keeps silence :)

Shhhh you will wake me :)

Be happy, Herman! np: Çp¿∩ - ÆÑíÑ ñáñyΓ º¡á¬
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--
np: Wynn Stewart - It's Such A Pretty World Today (Boot Liquor: Americana roots music for Cowhands, Cowpokes and Cowtippers. [SomaFM]) http://87.98.219.186:80/ Playing at 128 Kbps 44 Khz

--- Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716)
* Origin: <The Harbinger Jamnntpd news://vtdl.net> (1:132/500)

Hello, Doug!


20 Nov 06 at 15:11 you wrote to me:

I'm sitting here contemplating what to use a computer
my mother gave me, for.
I think it is a 433 mhz AMD 191 mb of ram a 7.3 gig hdd
win98se op sys.
hehe it has a 5-1/4 floppy drive + a 3-1/2 one too.
just below the CD burner :)

Good machine. I envy.

Be happy, Doug!
np: Çp¿∩ - ÆÑíÑ ñáñyΓ º¡á¬
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* Origin: Centr-O Station, Moscow, Russia (2:5020/10192.5)

Hello, Herman!


20 Nov 06 at 20:59 you wrote to me:

î¡«ú¿Ñ Γá¼ π óáß απß߬¿⌐ ¿ºπτáεΓ?

Are there many people who learn Russian in your country?

Don't know how many, but there are and have always been.

[....]

You have told interesting things..

But why don't you try to write in Russian I wonder..

Sorry, but my knowledge of απß߬¿⌐ is very poor:-(

Everybody started once.. It depends on you :-)

Sure. But not everyone has the opportunity (and time) and feeling to
learn other languages.

You're no gonna believe, I am trying to learn Arabic.. But success is doubtful.

But it is a very interesting language. Certainly as you know how many
in culture/history our countries have in common!

Shame on me, I don't :-(

Be happy, Herman!
np: Çp¿∩ - ÆÑíÑ ñáñyΓ º¡á¬ -Stopped-
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