• getaddrinfo failed: Servname not supported for ai_socktype (-8)

    From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to All on Sun Jan 30 14:35:12 2022
    I try to set up binkd and when I specify the port to the host node I get this error:

    getaddrinfo failed: Servname not supported for ai_socktype (-8)

    The line for the node looks like this:

    node 2:203/0 eljaco.se:24555 secretpasswd
    (passwd removed)

    If I remove the portnumber, the output says: SYS Please use port 24555

    Conny

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.0
    * Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2)
  • From Björn Wiberg@2:201/137 to Conny Enstr÷m on Sun Jan 30 15:55:38 2022
    Hello Conny!

    On 30 Jan 2022, Conny Enstr÷m said the following...

    I try to set up binkd and when I specify the port to the host node I get this error:

    getaddrinfo failed: Servname not supported for ai_socktype (-8)

    The line for the node looks like this:

    node 2:203/0 eljaco.se:24555 secretpasswd

    Could this possible be the same as:
    https://github.com/pgul/binkd/issues/27

    I'm using binkd 1.1a-111 on Debian now, and in that version things work as expected (whereas earlier versions did not).

    I'm not sure exactly which version of binkd that fixed this, though.

    Best regards
    Björn

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/28 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)
  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Bjrn Wiberg on Sun Jan 30 18:23:52 2022
    Den 2022-01-30 kl. 15:55, skrev 2201/137:
    Hello Conny!

    On 30 Jan 2022, Conny Enstr÷m said the following...

     CE>> I try to set up binkd and when I specify the port to the host node
    I get
     CE>> this error:

     CE>> getaddrinfo failed: Servname not supported for ai_socktype (-8)

     CE>> The line for the node looks like this:

     CE>> node 2:203/0 eljaco.se:24555 secretpasswd

    Could this possible be the same as: https://github.com/pgul/binkd/issues/27

    I'm using binkd 1.1a-111 on Debian now, and in that version things work
    as expected (whereas earlier versions did not).

    I'm not sure exactly which version of binkd that fixed this, though.

    Best regards
    Björn

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/28 (Linux/64)
     * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)

    I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from Ubuntu repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version with this problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.

    The ufw is disabled completely (Ubuntu Fire Wall)

    But as I read on in the your link it says something about:

    netstat -anp | grep SYN
    tcp 0 1 192.168.1.5:42058 219.89.83.33:* SYN_SENT 8760/binkd: call to


    Is this something created when the connection is made or something resistant somewhere?
    i can not see this when I use the command: sudo netstat -anp | grep SYN

    Conny

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.0
    * Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2)
  • From Björn Wiberg@2:201/137 to Conny Enstr÷m on Sun Jan 30 19:06:02 2022
    Hello Conny!

    On 30 Jan 2022, Conny Enstr÷m said the following...
    I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from Ubuntu repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version with this problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.

    Yep! Most likely that will solve the problem.

    (I believe the colon and port number were interpreted as part of the hostname in the earlier versions of binkd, leading to this error...)

    tcp 0 1 192.168.1.5:42058 219.89.83.33:* SYN_SENT 8760/binkd: call to

    Is this something created when the connection is made or something resistant somewhere?

    That was just a check to see what binkd tried to connect to -- in that case, port * = 0 of the remote hub (219.89.83.33), which was not the desired port. =)

    The SYN_SENT status indicates that it has attempted to start the TCP handshake, but has not gotten any further.

    Best regards
    Björn

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/28 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Conny Enstrm on Sun Jan 30 20:22:09 2022
    On 30.1.2022 19:23, Conny Enström wrote:


     CE>> node 2:203/0 eljaco.se:24555 secretpasswd

    BW> Could this possible be the same as:
    BW> https://github.com/pgul/binkd/issues/27

    BW> I'm using binkd 1.1a-111 on Debian now, and in that version things work
    BW> as expected (whereas earlier versions did not).

    BW> I'm not sure exactly which version of binkd that fixed this, though.

    BW> Best regards
    BW> Björn

    BW> --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/28 (Linux/64)
    BW>  * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)

    I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from
    Ubuntu repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version with
    this problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.


    You should compile your own -113, the latest. Please read the FAQ posted here every week.

    Or you could find an uplink who uses a standard binkp port. :D

    Anyways, I can connect 2:203/0:

    + 20:18 [21903] call to 2:203/0@fidonet
    20:18 [21903] trying eljaco.se. [2001:470:27:302::2]:24555...
    20:18 [21903] connected
    + 20:18 [21903] outgoing session with eljaco.se:24555 [2001:470:27:302::2]
    - 20:18 [21903] OPT CRAM-MD5-d36ccbc24710cc05e43ca2c9968a6dee
    + 20:18 [21903] Remote requests MD mode
    - 20:18 [21903] SYS Felten's Sharp System
    - 20:18 [21903] ZYZ Björn Felten
    - 20:18 [21903] LOC Säve, Sweden
    - 20:18 [21903] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
    - 20:18 [21903] TIME Sun, 30 Jan 2022 19:18:56 +0100
    - 20:18 [21903] VER binkd/1.1a-65/Win32 binkp/1.1
    + 20:18 [21903] addr: 2:203/0@fidonet
    + 20:18 [21903] addr: 2:20/0@fidonet
    + 20:18 [21903] addr: 2:2/2@fidonet
    + 20:18 [21903] addr: 2:203/2@fidonet
    - 20:18 [21903] OPT EXTCMD
    + 20:18 [21903] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
    + 20:18 [21903] done (to 2:203/0@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    20:18 [21903] session closed, quitting...
    20:18 [21902] rc(21903)=0
    20:18 [21902] the queue is empty, quitting...



    Binkd 1.1a-113 (Nov 15 2021 10:49:55/Linux)
    Compilation flags: gcc, zlib, bzlib2, perl, https, bwlim, af_force.
    Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

    'Tommi

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.1
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/1.0)
  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Conny Enstrm on Sun Jan 30 19:40:26 2022
    Conny wrote (2022-01-30):

     CE>>> getaddrinfo failed: Servname not supported for ai_socktype (-8)

     CE>>> The line for the node looks like this:

     CE>>> node 2:203/0 eljaco.se:24555 secretpasswd

    Could this possible be the same as:
    https://github.com/pgul/binkd/issues/27

    I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from Ubuntu repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version with this problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.

    1.1a-99 is buggy and has exactly that problem (and a few others). I guess you are using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. AFAIK you have to compile binkd from github or get the source package from a newer Ubuntu (or Debian) and build that.

    ---
    * Origin: Birds aren't real (2:280/464.47)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Conny Enstrom on Sun Jan 30 20:48:17 2022
    On 30.1.2022 20:40, Oli wrote:

    CE> I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from Ubuntu
    CE> repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version with this
    CE> problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.

    1.1a-99 is buggy and has exactly that problem (and a few others). I
    guess you are using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. AFAIK you have to compile binkd
    from github or get the source package from a newer Ubuntu (or Debian)
    and build that.

    If you don't like to compile your own, you could try that:

    http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/binkd/binkd_1.1a-111-1_amd64.deb

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/1.0)
  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Jan 30 20:35:50 2022
    Tommi wrote (2022-01-30):

    On 30.1.2022 20:40, Oli wrote:

    I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from
    Ubuntu repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version
    with this problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.


    1.1a-99 is buggy and has exactly that problem (and a few others). I
    guess you are using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. AFAIK you have to compile binkd
    from github or get the source package from a newer Ubuntu (or Debian)
    and build that.

    If you don't like to compile your own, you could try that:

    http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/binkd/binkd_1.1a-111-1_amd64.deb

    Won't work. Needs libperl5.32, but Ubuntu 20.04 has libperl5.30 only.

    ---
    * Origin: Birds aren't real (2:280/464.47)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Oli on Sun Jan 30 21:49:03 2022
    On 30.1.2022 21:35, Oli wrote:

    I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from
    Ubuntu repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version
    with this problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.


    1.1a-99 is buggy and has exactly that problem (and a few others). I
    guess you are using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. AFAIK you have to compile binkd
    from github or get the source package from a newer Ubuntu (or Debian)
    and build that.

    If you don't like to compile your own, you could try that:

    http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/binkd/binkd_1.1a-111-1_amd64.deb

    Won't work. Needs libperl5.32, but Ubuntu 20.04 has libperl5.30 only.

    Yeah, ok then.

    But binkd works without perl just fine. :)

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/1.0)
  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Jan 30 21:21:28 2022
    Tommi wrote (2022-01-30):

    If you don't like to compile your own, you could try that:

    http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/binkd/binkd_1.1a-111-1_amd64.deb

    Won't work. Needs libperl5.32, but Ubuntu 20.04 has libperl5.30 only.

    Yeah, ok then.

    But binkd works without perl just fine. :)

    Most sysops never ever make use of the perl hooks. But it is unfortunately a dependency (dynamically linked) in Debian/Ubuntu:

    # ldd /usr/sbin/binkd
    linux-vdso.so.1
    libbz2.so.1.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libbz2.so.1.0
    libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1
    libresolv.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libresolv.so.2
    libperl.so.5.32 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libperl.so.5.32
    libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
    libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
    libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2
    libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6
    libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypt.so.1
    /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2

    A statically linked binkd without perl for Linux would be nice.

    ---
    * Origin: Birds aren't real (2:280/464.47)
  • From Scott Street@1:266/420 to Oli on Sun Jan 30 22:26:30 2022
    30 Jan 22 21:21, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    A statically linked binkd without perl for Linux would be nice.

    Perhaps I can help with that:


    ===========cut&paste from terminal============================
    Welcome to Ubuntu 21.10 (GNU/Linux 5.13.0-27-generic x86_64)

    Last login: Sun Jan 30 18:23:17 2022 from 2601:48:c500:9340::bd46
    ftn@Hydra:~$ ldd bin/binkd
    linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffd7412e000)
    libbz2.so.1.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libbz2.so.1.0 (0x00007f017c583000)
    libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00007f017c567000)
    libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f017c33f000)
    /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f017c5db000)
    ftn@Hydra:~$ uname -a
    Linux Hydra 5.13.0-27-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 12 17:36:47 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
    ftn@Hydra:~$ binkd -v
    Binkd 1.1a-113 (Jan 25 2022 16:02:28/Linux) ==============================================================


    I've compiled my binkd without perl support (don't use it, since I'm inet only, the only nodelist I need is binkp.net lookups)

    If you can use it, I can compress and fileattached the binary to you.

    --- ---
    * Origin: -={ The Digital Post }=- (1:266/420)
  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Jan 31 18:05:16 2022
    Den 2022-01-30 kl. 19:22, skrev 2221/1:
    On 30.1.2022 19:23, Conny Enström wrote:


       CE>> node 2:203/0 eljaco.se:24555 secretpasswd

      BW> Could this possible be the same as:
      BW> https://github.com/pgul/binkd/issues/27

      BW> I'm using binkd 1.1a-111 on Debian now, and in that version
    things work
      BW> as expected (whereas earlier versions did not).

      BW> I'm not sure exactly which version of binkd that fixed this,
    though.

      BW> Best regards
      BW> Björn

      BW> --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/28 (Linux/64)
      BW>   * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)

    I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from
    Ubuntu repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version with
    this problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.


    You should compile your own -113, the latest. Please read the FAQ posted here every week.

    Or you could find an uplink who uses a standard binkp port. :D

    Anyways, I can connect 2:203/0:

    + 20:18 [21903] call to 2:203/0@fidonet
      20:18 [21903] trying eljaco.se. [2001:470:27:302::2]:24555...
      20:18 [21903] connected
    + 20:18 [21903] outgoing session with eljaco.se:24555 [2001:470:27:302::2] - 20:18 [21903] OPT CRAM-MD5-d36ccbc24710cc05e43ca2c9968a6dee
    + 20:18 [21903] Remote requests MD mode
    - 20:18 [21903] SYS Felten's Sharp System
    - 20:18 [21903] ZYZ Björn Felten
    - 20:18 [21903] LOC Säve, Sweden
    - 20:18 [21903] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
    - 20:18 [21903] TIME Sun, 30 Jan 2022 19:18:56 +0100
    - 20:18 [21903] VER binkd/1.1a-65/Win32 binkp/1.1
    + 20:18 [21903] addr: 2:203/0@fidonet
    + 20:18 [21903] addr: 2:20/0@fidonet
    + 20:18 [21903] addr: 2:2/2@fidonet
    + 20:18 [21903] addr: 2:203/2@fidonet
    - 20:18 [21903] OPT EXTCMD
    + 20:18 [21903] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
    + 20:18 [21903] done (to 2:203/0@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
      20:18 [21903] session closed, quitting...
      20:18 [21902] rc(21903)=0
      20:18 [21902] the queue is empty, quitting...



    Binkd 1.1a-113 (Nov 15 2021 10:49:55/Linux)
    Compilation flags: gcc, zlib, bzlib2, perl, https, bwlim, af_force. Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

    'Tommi

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.1
     * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/1.0)

    I will try to compile 113.

    Conny

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.0
    * Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2)
  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Oli on Mon Jan 31 18:42:22 2022
    Den 2022-01-30 kl. 19:40, skrev 2280/464.47:
    Conny wrote (2022-01-30):

      CE>>>> getaddrinfo failed: Servname not supported for ai_socktype (-8)

      CE>>>> The line for the node looks like this:

      CE>>>> node 2:203/0 eljaco.se:24555 secretpasswd

     BW>>> Could this possible be the same as:
     BW>>> https://github.com/pgul/binkd/issues/27

     CE>> I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from
    Ubuntu
     CE>> repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version with this
     CE>> problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.

    1.1a-99 is buggy and has exactly that problem (and a few others). I
    guess you are using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. AFAIK you have to compile binkd
    from github or get the source package from a newer Ubuntu (or Debian)
    and build that.

    ---
     * Origin: Birds aren't real (2:280/464.47)

    I downloaded binkd_1.1a-111-1_amd64.deb, but this depend on libperl5.32, this dependencies can go on for ever as I recall.

    Conny

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.0
    * Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2)
  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Scott Street on Mon Jan 31 18:45:46 2022
    Den 2022-01-31 kl. 04:26, skrev 1266/420:
    30 Jan 22 21:21, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

     Ol>> A statically linked binkd without perl for Linux would be nice.

    Perhaps I can help with that:


    ===========cut&paste from terminal============================
    Welcome to Ubuntu 21.10 (GNU/Linux 5.13.0-27-generic x86_64)

    Last login: Sun Jan 30 18:23:17 2022 from 2601:48:c500:9340::bd46 ftn@Hydra:~$ ldd bin/binkd
            linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffd7412e000)
            libbz2.so.1.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libbz2.so.1.0 (0x00007f017c583000)
            libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00007f017c567000)
            libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f017c33f000)
            /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f017c5db000) ftn@Hydra:~$ uname -a
    Linux Hydra 5.13.0-27-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 12 17:36:47 UTC
    2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
    ftn@Hydra:~$ binkd -v
    Binkd 1.1a-113 (Jan 25 2022 16:02:28/Linux) ==============================================================


    I've compiled my binkd without perl support (don't use it,  since I'm inet only,  the only nodelist I need is binkp.net lookups)

    If you can use it, I can compress and fileattached the binary to you.

    --- ---
     * Origin: -={ The Digital Post }=- (1:266/420)

    I could try it, If you have it.

    Conny

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.0
    * Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2)
  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Jan 31 19:30:45 2022
    Den 2022-01-30 kl. 19:48, skrev 2221/1:
    On 30.1.2022 20:40, Oli wrote:

      CE> I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from
    Ubuntu
      CE> repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version with this
      CE> problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.

    1.1a-99 is buggy and has exactly that problem (and a few others). I
    guess you are using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. AFAIK you have to compile binkd
    from github or get the source package from a newer Ubuntu (or Debian)
    and build that.

    If you don't like to compile your own, you could try that:

    http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/binkd/binkd_1.1a-111-1_amd64.deb


    'Tommi

    ---
     * Origin: rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/1.0)

    Is there a similar software that works insdead of binkd, and working in "older" releases?
    Or I must wait until 2025 when the LTS comes to an end, I don't want to go thru a new install from scratch again if I'm not forced to.

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.0
    * Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2)
  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Scott Street on Tue Feb 1 10:12:33 2022
    Scott wrote (2022-01-30):

    30 Jan 22 21:21, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    A statically linked binkd without perl for Linux would be nice.

    Perhaps I can help with that:

    ===========cut&paste from terminal============================ ftn@Hydra:~$ ldd bin/binkd
    linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffd7412e000)
    libbz2.so.1.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libbz2.so.1.0 (0x00007f017c583000) libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00007f017c567000) libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f017c33f000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f017c5db000)

    I've compiled my binkd without perl support (don't use it, since I'm
    inet only, the only nodelist I need is binkp.net lookups)

    If you can use it, I can compress and fileattached the binary to you.

    It was more in response to Conny's problem with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and an outdated binkd in the distro. I do use the perl hooks with binkd and compile it myself.

    Your version is still not a statically linked binary, which would look more like this:

    ~ $ ldd .local/bin/restic
    not a dynamic executable
    ~ $ ldd .local/bin/zig
    statically linked

    Your binkd does not run on a Linux without glibc, libz or libbz2. Usually this isn't a problem as most Linux distros use glibc and have libbz2 installed (most famous exception is Alpine Linux, but even that has a libc6-compat package).

    ---
    * Origin: Birds aren't real (2:280/464.47)
  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Conny Enstr÷m on Tue Feb 1 10:17:48 2022
    Conny wrote (2022-01-31):

    Is there a similar software that works insdead of binkd, and working in "older" releases? Or I must wait until 2025 when the LTS comes to an end, I don't want to go thru a new install from scratch again if I'm not
    forced to.

    Not anything I would recommend, if you already have a configured binkd installation. Maybe try the compiled binkd from Scott. We also can help, if you have troubles compiling it yourself. Or I can try to compile the Debian package for Ubuntu 20.04.

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  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Oli on Tue Feb 1 16:15:27 2022
    Den 2022-02-01 kl. 10:17, skrev 2280/464.47:
    Conny wrote (2022-01-31):

     CE>> Is there a similar software that works insdead of binkd, and
    working in
     CE>> "older" releases? Or I must wait until 2025 when the LTS comes to
    an end,
     CE>> I don't want to go thru a new install from scratch again if I'm not
     CE>> forced to.

    Not anything I would recommend, if you already have a configured binkd installation. Maybe try the compiled binkd from Scott. We also can help,
    if you have troubles compiling it yourself. Or I can try to compile the Debian package for Ubuntu 20.04.

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    Ok actually I use Linux Mint 20.03 "una" but it's equal to Ubuntu 20.04, they use the same package base.

    But if I still compile it, binkd still want to use libperl5.32?

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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Conny Enstr÷m on Tue Feb 1 16:52:08 2022
    Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

    Ok actually I use Linux Mint 20.03 "una" but it's equal to Ubuntu 20.04, they use the same package base.

    But if I still compile it, binkd still want to use libperl5.32?

    No, then can be compiled against libperl5.30. By default the perl feature is disabled.

    You can also try this static binary (without perl):

    https://alerts-give-nickname-digest.trycloudflare.com/binkd-1.1a113-x86_64-static.zip

    (temporary URL)

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  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Oli on Tue Feb 1 17:58:24 2022
    Den 2022-02-01 kl. 16:52, skrev 2280/464.47:
    Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

     CE>> Ok actually I use Linux Mint 20.03 "una" but it's equal to Ubuntu
    20.04,
     CE>> they use the same package base.

     CE>> But if I still compile it, binkd still want to use libperl5.32?

    No, then can be compiled against libperl5.30. By default the perl
    feature is disabled.

    You can also try this static binary (without perl):

    https://alerts-give-nickname-digest.trycloudflare.com/binkd-1.1a113-x86_64-static.zip


    (temporary URL)

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    Yes! Success!

    And now the rest of the setup, I have all other functions for Fidonet in my BBS software (All Amiga), TrapDoor full registered pacḱage.
    Is it a standard text handling format for all messages on any system for Fidonet?

    The thing is to figure out what and where to change in all cfg files for my new Fidoadress for TrapList, TrapToss,TrapTell, TrapToss as I can't remember wich is doing what in the system.

    One thing I noticed that this did not work in binkd.cfg, "the aso style outbound", is this required for an Amiga system?

    # Use Amiga Style Outbound (ASO)
    #
    # aso

    Otherwise I must config Crashmail in the Linux system.

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  • From Scott Street@1:266/420 to Oli on Tue Feb 1 11:57:28 2022
    01 Feb 22 10:12, you wrote to me:

    Your version is still not a statically linked binary, which would look more like this:

    Very true, I just thought it might help as I keep the dynamic libraries to a reasonable minimum. The binary should run on his 20.04 LTS install without too much trouble.

    Your binkd does not run on a Linux without glibc, libz or libbz2.
    Usually this isn't a problem as most Linux distros use glibc and have libbz2 installed (most famous exception is Alpine Linux, but even that
    has a libc6-compat package).

    I do prefer Gentoo as my goto Linux distro; however, Ubuntu 20.10 had all the bits for ZFS "in-the-box" so to speak. Someday (wishful thinking here), I'll have time to sort out Gentoo and ZFS; at which point I'll redo this machine.


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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Conny Enstrm on Tue Feb 1 20:58:19 2022
    Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

    Yes! Success!

    And now the rest of the setup, I have all other functions for Fidonet in my BBS software (All Amiga), TrapDoor full registered pacḱage. Is it a standard text handling format for all messages on any system for Fidonet?

    The thing is to figure out what and where to change in all cfg files for my new Fidoadress for TrapList, TrapToss,TrapTell, TrapToss as I can't remember wich is doing what in the system.

    One thing I noticed that this did not work in binkd.cfg, "the aso style outbound", is this required for an Amiga system?

    # Use Amiga Style Outbound (ASO)
    #
    # aso

    No idea if it is required for Amiga or if TrapDoor can be configured for BSO too. Binkd does support ASO, if it is build with --with-aso (which I did):

    $ ./binkd -vv
    Binkd 1.1a-113 (Feb 1 2022 13:53:00/Linux)
    Compilation flags: clang, https, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim.
    Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

    Otherwise I must config Crashmail in the Linux system.

    Also a good option. Btw, I'm using a modified Crashmail with ASO :).

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  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Scott Street on Tue Feb 1 21:03:54 2022
    Den 2022-02-01 kl. 17:57, skrev 1266/420:
    01 Feb 22 10:12, you wrote to me:

     Ol>> Your version is still not a statically linked binary, which would
    look
     Ol>> more like this:

    Very true,  I just thought it might help as I keep the dynamic libraries to a reasonable minimum.  The binary should run on his 20.04 LTS install without too much trouble.

     Ol>> Your binkd does not run on a Linux without glibc, libz or libbz2.
     Ol>> Usually this isn't a problem as most Linux distros use glibc and have
     Ol>> libbz2 installed (most famous exception is Alpine Linux, but even
    that
     Ol>> has a libc6-compat package).

    I do prefer Gentoo as my goto Linux distro;  however,  Ubuntu 20.10 had all the bits for ZFS "in-the-box" so to speak.  Someday (wishful
    thinking here), I'll have time to sort out Gentoo and ZFS; at which
    point I'll redo this machine.


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    I installed the pre compiled binary for latest version and it works!

    The other problem I struggle with is the sync with my Amiga BBS that share the same harddrive as the paths for Outbound and Inbound with binkd.

    I prefer to try to run the software from my old installation since it's all configured in the Amiga system. I don't know what files binkd want and what files yet. The messages I write in the BBS are saved as xxxxx.MSG.

    Its a looong time since I knew all about this and how it worked and in what order, and to run everyting automaticly.

    Conny

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  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Oli on Tue Feb 1 21:09:45 2022
    Den 2022-02-01 kl. 20:58, skrev 2280/464.47:
    Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

     CE>> Yes! Success!

     CE>> And now the rest of the setup, I have all other functions for
    Fidonet in
     CE>> my BBS software (All Amiga), TrapDoor full registered pacḱage. Is
    it a
     CE>> standard text handling format for all messages on any system for
    Fidonet?

     CE>> The thing is to figure out what and where to change in all cfg
    files for
     CE>> my new Fidoadress for TrapList, TrapToss,TrapTell, TrapToss as I
    can't
     CE>> remember wich is doing what in the system.

     CE>> One thing I noticed that this did not work in binkd.cfg, "the aso
    style
     CE>> outbound", is this required for an Amiga system?

     CE>> # Use Amiga Style Outbound (ASO)
     CE>> #
     CE>> # aso

    No idea if it is required for Amiga or if TrapDoor can be configured for BSO too.  Binkd does support ASO, if it is build with --with-aso (which
    I did):


    Ok, I will try to switch it on in the cfg file. :-)

    $ ./binkd -vv
    Binkd 1.1a-113 (Feb  1 2022 13:53:00/Linux)
    Compilation flags: clang, https, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim.
    Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

     CE>> Otherwise I must config Crashmail in the Linux system.

    Also a good option. Btw, I'm using a modified Crashmail with ASO :).

    I prefer to try and see if it's possible for binkd and the TrapDoor software to cooperate, since all that is allready in my Amiga system.
    The problem is to figure out what software is doing what and in wich order. I had all this setup with scripts for Poll, Toss, packing and so on back in the days.
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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Conny Enstrm on Tue Feb 1 21:43:29 2022
    Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

     CE>>> # Use Amiga Style Outbound (ASO)
     CE>>> #
     CE>>> # aso

    No idea if it is required for Amiga or if TrapDoor can be configured
    for BSO too.  Binkd does support ASO, if it is build with --with-aso
    (which I did):


    Ok, I will try to switch it on in the cfg file. :-)

    $ ./binkd -vv
    Binkd 1.1a-113 (Feb  1 2022 13:53:00/Linux)
    Compilation flags: clang, https, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim.
    Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

     CE>>> Otherwise I must config Crashmail in the Linux system.

    Also a good option. Btw, I'm using a modified Crashmail with ASO :).


    I prefer to try and see if it's possible for binkd and the TrapDoor software to cooperate, since all that is allready in my Amiga system. The problem is to figure out what software is doing what and in wich order. I had all this setup with scripts for Poll, Toss, packing and so on back in the days.

    From TrapToss.Man:

    4.12. Outbound Handling

    To facilitate cooperation with a vast number of mailers,
    TrapToss supports a number of different outbound directory
    formats. You can choose between 2D and 4D handling of Netmail
    bundles, of EchoMail (arcmail) bundles, and of Flow files. The
    keywords (NO)FORCE4DMO, (NO)OLDSTYLEMO, (NO)OLDSTYLEFLO and
    (NO)OUT4D control this. Their defaults are set for perfect usage
    with the TrapDoor mailer.


    It looks like TrapToss / TrapDoor only support 2D BSO (without zones and points as fake nets) and 4D ASO. I think 4D ASO is the better option.

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  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Oli on Tue Feb 1 23:59:45 2022
    Den 2022-02-01 kl. 21:43, skrev 2280/464.47:
    Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

      CE>>>> # Use Amiga Style Outbound (ASO)
      CE>>>> #
      CE>>>> # aso

    ; No idea if it is required for Amiga or if TrapDoor can be configured
    ; for BSO too.  Binkd does support ASO, if it is build with --with-aso
    ; (which I did):


     CE>> Ok, I will try to switch it on in the cfg file. :-)

    ; $ ./binkd -vv
    ; Binkd 1.1a-113 (Feb  1 2022 13:53:00/Linux)
    ; Compilation flags: clang, https, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim.
    ; Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

      CE>>>> Otherwise I must config Crashmail in the Linux system.

    ; Also a good option. Btw, I'm using a modified Crashmail with ASO :).


     CE>> I prefer to try and see if it's possible for binkd and the TrapDoor
     CE>> software to cooperate, since all that is allready in my Amiga
    system. The
     CE>> problem is to figure out what software is doing what and in wich
    order. I
     CE>> had all this setup with scripts for Poll, Toss, packing and so on
    back in
     CE>> the days.

    From TrapToss.Man:

     4.12. Outbound Handling

           To facilitate cooperation with a vast number of mailers,
         TrapToss supports a number of different outbound directory
         formats. You can choose between 2D and 4D handling of Netmail
         bundles, of EchoMail (arcmail) bundles, and of Flow files. The
         keywords (NO)FORCE4DMO, (NO)OLDSTYLEMO, (NO)OLDSTYLEFLO and
         (NO)OUT4D control this. Their defaults are set for perfect usage
         with the TrapDoor mailer.


    It looks like TrapToss / TrapDoor only support 2D BSO (without zones and points as fake nets) and 4D ASO. I think 4D ASO is the better option.

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    Do you have the complete manual for TrapToss / TrapDoor? My files are on original floppys and I can not read them at the moment.

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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Conny Enstr÷m on Wed Feb 2 09:46:00 2022
    Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

    It looks like TrapToss / TrapDoor only support 2D BSO (without zones
    and points as fake nets) and 4D ASO. I think 4D ASO is the better
    option.

    Do you have the complete manual for TrapToss / TrapDoor? My files are
    on original floppys and I can not read them at the moment.

    https://aminet.net/search?query=trapdoor https://aminet.net/comm/fido/TD_1_84.lha

    https://aminet.net/search?query=traptoss https://aminet.net/comm/fido/TrapToss_1_50.lzh

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  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Oli on Wed Feb 2 19:26:50 2022
    Den 2022-02-02 kl. 09:46, skrev 2280/464.47:
    Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

    ; It looks like TrapToss / TrapDoor only support 2D BSO (without zones
    ; and points as fake nets) and 4D ASO. I think 4D ASO is the better
    ; option.

     CE>>    Do you have the complete manual for TrapToss / TrapDoor? My
    files are
     CE>> on original floppys and I can not read them at the moment.

    https://aminet.net/search?query=trapdoor https://aminet.net/comm/fido/TD_1_84.lha

    https://aminet.net/search?query=traptoss https://aminet.net/comm/fido/TrapToss_1_50.lzh

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    Tnx, I did not think of that! :-)

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  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Oli on Fri Feb 4 22:35:00 2022
    Den 2022-02-01 kl. 21:43, skrev 2280/464.47:
    Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

      CE>>>> # Use Amiga Style Outbound (ASO)
      CE>>>> #
      CE>>>> # aso

    ; No idea if it is required for Amiga or if TrapDoor can be configured
    ; for BSO too.  Binkd does support ASO, if it is build with --with-aso
    ; (which I did):


     CE>> Ok, I will try to switch it on in the cfg file. :-)

    ; $ ./binkd -vv
    ; Binkd 1.1a-113 (Feb  1 2022 13:53:00/Linux)
    ; Compilation flags: clang, https, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim.
    ; Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

      CE>>>> Otherwise I must config Crashmail in the Linux system.

    ; Also a good option. Btw, I'm using a modified Crashmail with ASO :).


     CE>> I prefer to try and see if it's possible for binkd and the TrapDoor
     CE>> software to cooperate, since all that is allready in my Amiga
    system. The
     CE>> problem is to figure out what software is doing what and in wich
    order. I
     CE>> had all this setup with scripts for Poll, Toss, packing and so on
    back in
     CE>> the days.

    From TrapToss.Man:

     4.12. Outbound Handling

           To facilitate cooperation with a vast number of mailers,
         TrapToss supports a number of different outbound directory
         formats. You can choose between 2D and 4D handling of Netmail
         bundles, of EchoMail (arcmail) bundles, and of Flow files. The
         keywords (NO)FORCE4DMO, (NO)OLDSTYLEMO, (NO)OLDSTYLEFLO and
         (NO)OUT4D control this. Their defaults are set for perfect usage
         with the TrapDoor mailer.


    It looks like TrapToss / TrapDoor only support 2D BSO (without zones and points as fake nets) and 4D ASO. I think 4D ASO is the better option.

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    I downloaded the trapToss archive from Aminet but when I uncompress it all the textfiles are empty, the filename is there but contains no text at all?! I used FTP to get it, is it a broken archive or is it packed intentionally with zero text files? No error when unpack it.

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Conny Enstrm on Fri Feb 4 22:45:16 2022
    Hi Conny,

    On 2022-02-04 22:35:00, you wrote to Oli:

    I downloaded the trapToss archive from Aminet but when I uncompress it
    all the textfiles are empty, the filename is there but contains no
    text at all?! I used FTP to get it, is it a broken archive or is it
    packed intentionally with zero text files? No error when unpack it.

    I got the same file, the docs are fine and have content:

    # ls -l Docs
    total 364
    -rw-r----- 1 root root 42708 1992-02-15 16:41:12 FidoNet.Man
    -rw-r----- 1 root root 4163 1992-11-07 01:44:18 Registration.txt
    -rw-r----- 1 root root 2062 1992-11-07 01:44:18 SupportCenters.txt
    -rw-r----- 1 root root 142710 1993-03-27 10:48:16 TrapToss.Man
    -rw-r----- 1 root root 166353 1993-03-28 00:31:10 TrapToss.guide
    -rw-r----- 1 root root 510 1993-03-28 00:32:20 TrapToss.guide.info

    There must be something wrong with your lzh unpacker?


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Feb 4 22:57:42 2022
    Den 2022-02-04 kl. 22:45, skrev 2280/464:
    Hi Conny,

    On 2022-02-04 22:35:00, you wrote to Oli:

     CE>> I downloaded the trapToss archive from Aminet but when I
    uncompress it
     CE>> all the textfiles are empty, the filename is there but contains no
     CE>> text at all?! I used FTP to get it, is it a broken archive or is it
     CE>> packed intentionally with zero text files? No error when unpack it.

    I got the same file, the docs are fine and have content:

    # ls -l Docs
    total 364
    -rw-r----- 1 root root  42708 1992-02-15 16:41:12 FidoNet.Man
    -rw-r----- 1 root root   4163 1992-11-07 01:44:18 Registration.txt -rw-r----- 1 root root   2062 1992-11-07 01:44:18 SupportCenters.txt -rw-r----- 1 root root 142710 1993-03-27 10:48:16 TrapToss.Man
    -rw-r----- 1 root root 166353 1993-03-28 00:31:10 TrapToss.guide -rw-r----- 1 root root    510 1993-03-28 00:32:20 TrapToss.guide.info

    There must be something wrong with your lzh unpacker?


    Bye, Wilfred.

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    Ok, strange, I unpacked it in Linux, but i have no problem with other LHA files before, I will unpack in in the Amiga and see how it goes.

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