Conference rules for the BINKD echo: rev. 29 May 14
Posting Frequency: 1st of the month.
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The objectives of the BINKD echo are:

To provide a conference dedicated to the ubiquitous BinkD mailer in
its various incarnations for several unices, OS/2, Windows, Amiga and
DOS. Discussions may include technical help about the binkd software,
the binkp protocol, binkp implementations in other software (Argus,
Radius, Taurus, BBBS, Mystic) and the binkd-based binkp.net domain
organization.

NOTE: fidonet.net was lost to a domain squatter and cannot be used any
more by fidonet systems for f.n.z domain lookups. binkp.net is
now being provided for this function.


The rules of the BINKD echo are:

1. No ads or flaming.

2. No profanity.

3. Stay on-topic as much as possible.

4. English is the official language allowed in this echo, however,
a message in your native tongue is allowed as long as there is
an English translation in the same message.

5. Be kind to others - they'll be kind to you.

6. Please let the moderator do his job.

7. Discussion of moderator actions should be done via netmail.


Mark Lewis, 1:3634/12
Michael Dukelsky, 2:5020/1042 - emeritus

Conference Moderators



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On 2017-07-01 06:00, Moderator : All wrote:

NOTE: fidonet.net was lost to a domain squatter and cannot be used any
more by fidonet systems for f.n.z domain lookups. binkp.net is
now being provided for this function.

Jost checked, it expires in ~20 days, if anyone wants to be a hero and
regain control over it.

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* Origin: *** nntp://fidonews.mine.nu *** Finland *** (2:221/6.0)

Hello Moderator!

01 Jun 18 00:00, Moderator wrote to All:

NOTE: fidonet.net was lost to a domain squatter and cannot be
used any
more by fidonet systems for f.n.z domain lookups. binkp.net is
now being provided for this function.

Some people never got the message...

E:\NodeList> find/i /c "fidonet.net" nodelist.152

---------- NodeList.152: 7

--- Msged/NT 6.0.1
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Hello Fred,

On Monday June 04 2018 06:21, you wrote to Moderator:

NOTE: fidonet.net was lost to a domain squatter and cannot be
used any more by fidonet systems for f.n.z domain lookups. binkp.net
is now being provided for this function.

Some people never got the message...

E:\NodeList> find/i /c "fidonet.net" nodelist.152

---------- NodeList.152: 7

s/Some people/ZC1/

The next ZC1 has something to do...


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Fred,

Monday June 04 2018 12:57, I wrote to you:

s/Some people/ZC1/

The next ZC1 has something to do...

Correction.

s/Some people/Some ZCs/

The ZCs concerned have something to do.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
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On 2018 Jun 04 06:21:44, you wrote to Moderator:

NOTE: fidonet.net was lost to a domain squatter and cannot be
used any
more by fidonet systems for f.n.z domain lookups. binkp.net is
now being provided for this function.

Some people never got the message...

yup... and some got the message and didn't understand it, too...

E:\NodeList> find/i /c "fidonet.net" nodelist.152

looks like jeff macloue needs to get on the ball... they're all in his net but that's not our business ;)

i wonder if anyone ever found out the squatter's name? AIUI, they're still squatting on the domain as well as have set up a wildcard response to all DNS lookups on the domain...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... Too soon old; too late smart.
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On 2018-06-04 13:31, mark lewis : Fred Riccio wrote:

 On 2018 Jun 04 06:21:44, you wrote to Moderator:

;  NOTE: fidonet.net was lost to a domain squatter and cannot be
;  used any
;        more by fidonet systems for f.n.z domain lookups.

binkp.net is

;        now being provided for this function.

 FR> Some people never got the message...

yup... and some got the message and didn't understand it, too...

 FR> E:\NodeList> find/i /c "fidonet.net" nodelist.152

i wonder if anyone ever found out the squatter's name? AIUI, they're still squatting on the domain as well as have set up a wildcard response to
all DNS
lookups on the domain...

Fidonet.org expires 2019-02-26, fidonet.net at 2019-07-21, so perhaps
someone could squat one of them back with some luck next year,
fidonet.com is crazy, paid until 2027-10-03. O_o

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* Origin: - nntp://news.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland - (2:221/6)

Hi Janne!

04 Jun 2018 15:40, from Janne Johansson -> mark lewis:

Fidonet.org expires 2019-02-26

Was that domain also squatted

CU, Ricsi

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Fidonet.org expires 2019-02-26, fidonet.net at 2019-07-21, so perhaps someone could squat one of them back with some luck next year,
fidonet.com is crazy, paid until 2027-10-03. O_o

fidonet.org is renewed every year, I don't see the problem.

Joacim Melin is set to launch a complete new environment once he surfaces again
... I'm awaiting his thumbs-up to perform some magic...

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR28
* Origin: Resist-Insist-Persist-Enlist / onwardtogether.org (2:292/854)

On 2018-06-04 14:42, Richard Menedetter : Janne Johansson wrote:

Hi Janne!

04 Jun 2018 15:40, from Janne Johansson -> mark lewis:

 JJ> Fidonet.org expires 2019-02-26

Was that domain also squatted

Sorry, just checked all three generic TLDs since I didn't know if any
would be usable if available, didn't mean to imply it was.

The whois info is more or less hiding all details these days except the
dates and NS servers, so I didn't see much of a difference in the output
from them, apart from the 2027 enddate.

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* Origin: - nntp://news.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland - (2:221/6)

Ricsi,

Fidonet.org expires 2019-02-26

Was that domain also squatted

I don't think so, as I pay for it.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR28
* Origin: Resist-Insist-Persist-Enlist / onwardtogether.org (2:292/854)

The whois info is more or less hiding all details these days except the dates and NS servers, so I didn't see much of a difference in the output from them, apart from the 2027 enddate.

If you use the whois from for example GoDaddy for fidonet.org it will list the registrant country as BE.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR28
* Origin: Resist-Insist-Persist-Enlist / onwardtogether.org (2:292/854)

On 2018-06-04 14:07, Ward Dossche : Janne Johansson wrote:

The whois info is more or less hiding all details these days except the dates and NS servers, so I didn't see much of a difference in the

output

from them, apart from the 2027 enddate.

If you use the whois from for example GoDaddy for fidonet.org it will
list the registrant country as BE.

Yes, I see now in the output that BE is visible, but it is also well
hidden next to all of this:
Registrant Name: Data Protected Data Protected
Registrant Organization: Data Protected
Registrant Street: 123 Data Protected
Registrant Street:
Registrant City: Kirkland
Registrant State/Province: WA
Registrant Postal Code: 98033
Registrant Country: US

Registrant Phone: +1.0000000000

Registrant Phone Ext:

Registrant Fax: +1.0000000000
Registrant Email: noreply@data-protected.net

Admin Name: Data Protected Data Protected
Admin Organization: Data Protected
Admin Street: 123 Data Protected
[...]

Makes it hard to "trust" any data apart from NS-records and dates.

So yes, I managed to imply .org was squatted erroneously, but then again
just being registered via BE in itself wouldn't be proof this domain
also wasn't. I'm sure there are squatters there too.

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* Origin: - nntp://news.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland - (2:221/6)

Janne,

Makes it hard to "trust" any data apart from NS-records and dates.

Personally I am not very happy about this, I have no problem with having my info listed...

My name is also in the phone directory.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR28
* Origin: Resist-Insist-Persist-Enlist / onwardtogether.org (2:292/854)

On 2018 Jun 04 15:40:16, you wrote to me:

i wonder if anyone ever found out the squatter's name? AIUI, they're
still squatting on the domain as well as have set up a wildcard
response to all DNS lookups on the domain...

Fidonet.org expires 2019-02-26,

is fine at this point... IIRC, Z2C owns it and it is operational to a point... just not for fnz address conversion, AFAIK...

fidonet.net at 2019-07-21,

that's the original one spoken of above...

so perhaps someone could squat one of them back with some luck next
year,

you can't squat unless you can get in before the owner can... even then, the owner still has certain rights to take back the domain within some period of time...

fidonet.com is crazy, paid until 2027-10-03. O_o

some folks tend to look further ahead in time than others... but, that one could be lost, too, if the notification address(es) are no longer used or accessible... that's what happened with fidonet.net...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... Ya know, some days life is just one non sequitur after catfish.
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I'm working on it. See email.


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