For some odd reason I suddenly have an obsession to install a offline mail door. After d/ling BlueWave Mail Door, I am curiouswht the others are & if they
are worth looking into? OLMS will be the next adventure...

Thx,
Phil

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For some odd reason I suddenly have an obsession to install a offline mail >door. After d/ling BlueWave Mail Door, I am curiouswht the others are & if they
are worth looking into? OLMS will be the next adventure...

What BBS software are you running? A lot of users use QWK mail as you are
a little more likely to find it available than BW.

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On 2018 May 17 22:56:46, you wrote to All:

For some odd reason I suddenly have an obsession to install a offline mail door. After d/ling BlueWave Mail Door,

Bluewave stuff must all be patched for y2k... doors and clients... without the patch, there will be random numbers in the To and/or From fields... the problem
is the two digit year is calculated by subtracting 1900 from the current year... that gives a value greater than 99... they don't ensure that the returned value is only two digits aka result := mod(result,100)... it is an overlooked flaw that stems from doing math calcs on the year instead of string work with substr...

http://www.wpusa.dynip.com/files/BLUEWAVE/

there's two ways to handle the y2k problem... neither is official and never can
be... the preferred one, true patch of binaries, is at the very top of the page... the other one is mainly user-side but can be run on the BBS side... it is down in the 3rd section of the files list... it is not a patch but a glue program used when the file is (un)zipped...

I am curiouswht the others are & if they are worth looking into? OLMS
will be the next adventure...

OLMS stopped working properly over here... when it would shell to zip up the files to send to the user, it would stop with some weird sort of memory allocation error... looks to me to be maybe an indicator of a pirated copy but the reg key is the free one...


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Hello Dumas,

18 May 18 10:44 at you wrote to PHIL KIMBLE:

What BBS software are you running? A lot of users use QWK mail as you
are a little more likely to find it available than BW.

I've had just the opposite experience in the past 20 years: more of my users have asked for Blue Wave capability than QWK, especially in the past ten years or so. OLMS supports QWK, QWKE, and Blue Wave as well as QWK networking. It's an excellent door and if my BBS didn't have QWK/Blue Wave support built in, that's the door I'd use.

Later,
Sean

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Re: Offline Mail Doors
By: Phil Kimble to All on Thu May 17 2018 10:56 pm

For some odd reason I suddenly have an obsession to install a offline mail door. After d/ling BlueWave Mail Door, I am curiouswht the others are & if they are worth looking into? OLMS will be the next adventure...

I was a huge BlueWave fan - my claim to fame was having one of my messages in the BLUEWAVE forum included in the sample message packet included with the reader.

Over the years, though, I ended up using the standard QWK reader and either OFFLINE or MultiMail for my offline reading. I suppose they were "Good Enough" and I left it at that. I did miss the longer subject lines of BW, though.
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Re: Offline Mail Doors
By: Kurt Weiske to Phil Kimble on Mon May 21 2018 08:59 am

I did miss the longer subject lines of BW, though.

If you are getting a QWK packet from Mystic or Synchronet you can turn on the QWKE format and get longer subject lines and names in the header if they are very long.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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Re: Offline Mail Doors
By: Alan Ianson to Kurt Weiske on Mon May 21 2018 12:59 pm

If you are getting a QWK packet from Mystic or Synchronet you can turn on the QWKE format and get longer subject lines and names in the header if they are very long.

I'll have to check that when I stop this newscan.

With multiple telnet lines and no time concerns, reading locally is something I like doing.
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Re: Offline Mail Doors
By: Kurt Weiske to Alan Ianson on Mon May 21 2018 05:21 pm

If you are getting a QWK packet from Mystic or Synchronet you can
turn on the QWKE format and get longer subject lines and names in
the header if they are very long.

I'll have to check that when I stop this newscan.

With multiple telnet lines and no time concerns, reading locally is something I like doing.

I do keep a copy of MultiMail here just in case.. but very seldom use it anymore.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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For some odd reason I suddenly have an obsession to install a offline
mail door. After d/ling BlueWave Mail Door, I am curiouswht the others
are & if they
are worth looking into? OLMS will be the next adventure...

What BBS software are you running? A lot of users use QWK mail as
you are
a little more likely to find it available than BW.

I am running Mystic 1.12. It has builtin QWK & QWKE capabilities so I may just
end up creating a pretty screen to call it done. I played with several doors this weekend. It seems as if almost all read the bbs config file so none of them will work (true integration) with Mystic unless I invest in the manual housekeeping.

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Phil

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Hi Mark,

On 2018 May 17 22:56:46, you wrote to All:

For some odd reason I suddenly have an obsession to install a offline
mail door. After d/ling BlueWave Mail Door,

Spent a few hours this weekend testdriving several different doors to realize that none will integrate into a MysticBBS without manual housekeeping.

Bluewave stuff must all be patched for y2k... doors and clients... without the patch, there will be random numbers in the To and/or From fields... the problem is the two digit year is calculated by
subtracting 1900 from the current year... that gives a value greater
than 99... they don't ensure that the returned value is only two
digits aka result := mod(result,100)... it is an overlooked flaw that stems from doing math calcs on the year instead of string work with substr...

http://www.wpusa.dynip.com/files/BLUEWAVE/

Thanks for the link. There is alot of good stuff at Waldo's. It seems either WP
or Tiny has almost eerything archived these days.

there's two ways to handle the y2k problem... neither is official and never can be... the preferred one, true patch of binaries, is at the
very top of the page... the other one is mainly user-side but can be
run on the BBS side... it is down in the 3rd section of the files
list... it is not a patch but a glue program used when the file is (un)zipped...

I am curiouswht the others are & if they are worth looking into? OLMS
will be the next adventure...

OLMS stopped working properly over here... when it would shell to zip
up the files to send to the user, it would stop with some weird sort
of memory allocation error... looks to me to be maybe an indicator of
a pirated copy but the reg key is the free one...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... Poo poo occurs.
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Thx
Phil

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Hello Dumas,

18 May 18 10:44 at you wrote to PHIL KIMBLE:

What BBS software are you running? A lot of users use QWK mail as
you are a little more likely to find it available than BW.

I've had just the opposite experience in the past 20 years: more of
my users
have asked for Blue Wave capability than QWK, especially in the past
ten years
or so. OLMS supports QWK, QWKE, and Blue Wave as well as QWK
networking.
It's an excellent door and if my BBS didn't have QWK/Blue Wave
support built
in, that's the door I'd use.

I think Magicka is the only bbs that organically supports both qwk, qwke, & bw formats. But then again, it could be that I was just checking it out. BBBS may support all three as well & cant remember if MBSE does have all 3 or not.

Later,
Sean

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Phil

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I am running Mystic 1.12. It has builtin QWK & QWKE capabilities so I may

jus

end up creating a pretty screen to call it done. I played with several doors this weekend. It seems as if almost all read the bbs config file so none of them will work (true integration) with Mystic unless I invest in the manual housekeeping.

Yeah, most message download doors did have some sort of "hook" in them that made them work with specific bbs software. They are not as portable as
other doors.

That said, some BBS software did have "adaptor" software written that would allow offline mail doors to work with their software. Back before QWK
doors were written for, or QWK support added to, GT Power, some sysops were able to use something called "Megamail" (I think?) which created offline packets for users to read using "Megareader" (again, I think?). I cannot remember what BBS software that door was originally meant to work with.
Been a long time. :)

Mike

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Hello Kurt,

21 May 18 08:59 at you wrote to Phil Kimble:

I was a huge BlueWave fan - my claim to fame was having one of my
messages in the BLUEWAVE forum included in the sample message packet included with the reader.

I've seen that message. :D

Later,
Sean

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Hello Phil,

21 May 18 22:24 at you wrote to me:

I think Magicka is the only bbs that organically supports both qwk,
qwke, & bw formats. But then again, it could be that I was just
checking it out. BBBS may support all three as well & cant remember if MBSE does have all 3 or not.

I don't think that MBSE supports QWKE. It has ASCII as an option but that is broken code.

Later,
Sean

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Hello Phil,

21 May 18 22:19 at you wrote to mark lewis:

Spent a few hours this weekend testdriving several different doors to realize that none will integrate into a MysticBBS without manual housekeeping.

I went through three levels of Hell moving my DOS doors from OS/2 to Linux at first. Once I figured out how to get everything working right, it's gone as smooth as silk. MBSE has a very good system for running DOS doors under DOSemu.

Later,
Sean

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Re: Offline Mail Doors
By: Sean Dennis to Phil Kimble on Tue May 22 2018 08:56 pm

I went through three levels of Hell moving my DOS doors from OS/2 to Linux

Taco Bell
Calling the IRS to ask a question
Calling Comcast for support
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Hello Kurt!

23 May 18 14:14, you wrote to Sean Dennis:

I went through three levels of Hell moving my DOS doors from OS/2
to Linux

Taco Bell
Calling the IRS to ask a question
Calling Comcast for support

LMAO! Those are all excellent examples.

Andrew

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Hello Kurt,

23 May 18 14:14 at you wrote to me:

I went through three levels of Hell moving my DOS doors from OS/2
to Linux

Taco Bell

Here I thought that was the Mexican phone company.

Del Taco: a Mexican-built computer.

Calling the IRS to ask a question

That's about the same as calling the suicide hotline and being put on hold.

Calling Comcast for support

I see you and raise you calling CenturyLink for support on their Internet service...

(Nothing to do with BBS doors, of course, but bad humor cannot be denied in my sight.)

Later,
Sean

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On 24 May 18 21:51:55, Sean Dennis said the following to Kurt Weiske:

I went through three levels of Hell moving my DOS doors from OS/2
to Linux

Taco Bell

Here I thought that was the Mexican phone company.

You sir, have won Fidonet for the day.

Nick

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On May 17, 2018 11:02pm, Phil Kimble wrote to All:

For some odd reason I suddenly have an obsession to install a offline
mail door. After d/ling BlueWave Mail Door, I am curiouswht the others
are & if they are worth looking into? OLMS will be the next adventure...

For what BBS software?

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Hi Sean,

Hello Phil,

21 May 18 22:19 at you wrote to mark lewis:

Spent a few hours this weekend testdriving several different doors to
realize that none will integrate into a MysticBBS without manual
housekeeping.

I went through three levels of Hell moving my DOS doors from OS/2 to Linux at
first. Once I figured out how to get everything working right, it's
gone as smooth as silk. MBSE has a very good system for running DOS doors

under DOSemu.

I made that change back in the last 1990s & moved from Windows 3.11 to Linux & MBSE. Played a little with Mystic/Slackware but ended up staying with MBSE/FreeBSD becuase it was so stable & just worked. Becuase my previous bbs was PowerBBS, not many doors made the transistion. FFS, BRE, TWars, & ArrowBridge was about all. That system is currently mothballed at home.

Anytime I move overseas for employment, I fire up husky & binkd on a hosted server in Colorado so I dont have to bother the wife with reboots or server stuff.

I am currently running ESXi 6.5 on an Intel NUC locally with Slackware & Mystic
1.12 A39 in a VM. I may stick with it & move it to the hosted server or may change my mind, again. I downloaded & started messing with ArcaOS last weekend
& immediately tossed ProBoard, FD, & FE on it...

Later,
Sean

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Phil

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