• BBS software for Mac OS X

    From Bill Gordon@1:3634/22 to All on Sat Jun 4 19:06:38 2016
    I'm asking again, is there a BBS software for Mac OS (PowerPC) or OS X (Intel).

    I have several good Macs, and would like to have one or more of them doing something instead of sitting around idle.

    Thanks

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Bill Gordon on Sat Jun 4 17:13:13 2016
    On 06/04/16, Bill Gordon said the following...

    I'm asking again, is there a BBS software for Mac OS (PowerPC) or OS X (Intel).

    I have several good Macs, and would like to have one or more of them
    doing something instead of sitting around idle.

    Mystic has an OSX version. I have no experience with it myself but there are
    a couple BBSs I know of that run it.

    http://mysticbbs.com is were it can be found if you'd like to have a look.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Bill Gordon on Sat Jun 4 19:42:12 2016
    Hello Bill!

    In a message to All <06/04/20> Bill Gordon wrote:

    I'm asking again, is there a BBS software for Mac OS
    (PowerPC) or OS X (Intel).

    I have several good Macs, and would like to have one or more
    of them doing something instead of sitting around idle.

    Yes, it's called Mystic. There is an OS X version available.

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Alan Ianson on Sat Jun 4 19:42:38 2016
    Hello Alan!

    In a message to Bill Gordon <06/04/20> Alan Ianson wrote:

    I have several good Macs, and would like to have one or more of them
    doing something instead of sitting around idle.

    Mystic has an OSX version. I have no experience with it
    myself but there are a couple BBSs I know of that run it.

    I run it on my Mac Book Pro :)

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  • From Andrew Haworth@1:123/525 to Bill Gordon on Sat Jun 4 22:13:00 2016
    On 06/04/16, Bill Gordon said the following...

    I'm asking again, is there a BBS software for Mac OS (PowerPC) or OS X (Intel).

    I have several good Macs, and would like to have one or more of them
    doing something instead of sitting around idle.

    Mystic for OSX is excellent. For the PowerPC, maybe try Hermes?

    http://www.hermesbbs.com

    --- Mystic BBS v1.11 (Raspberry Pi)
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  • From Allen Prunty@1:2320/100 to Andrew Haworth on Mon Jun 6 04:05:32 2016

    On Jun 04, 2016 10:17pm, Andrew Haworth wrote to Bill Gordon:

    On 06/04/16, Bill Gordon said the following...

    I'm asking again, is there a BBS software for Mac OS (PowerPC) or OS X
    (Intel).

    I have several good Macs, and would like to have one or more of them
    doing something instead of sitting around idle.

    Mystic for OSX is excellent. For the PowerPC, maybe try Hermes?

    http://www.hermesbbs.com

    Hermes does not run on OSX it runs on system 9 or the Early Versions of OSX that can run a virtual box with system 9 in "Classic" mode.

    I thought development for Mystic stopped in OSX.

    I'm also running Winserver on a mac under OSX... (Yes Wildcat! Winserver on a MAC running the latest OSX through Parallels) it's hard to figure out where windows stops and mac os begins.

    Allen

    /\llen

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  • From Andrew Haworth@1:123/525 to Allen Prunty on Mon Jun 6 08:49:00 2016
    On 06/06/16, Allen Prunty said the following...

    Hermes does not run on OSX it runs on system 9 or the Early Versions of OSX that can run a virtual box with system 9 in "Classic" mode.

    I had it installed on a Powerbook G4 running OSX Tiger some years back. The site does say it must run in "Classic Mode" under OSX, which was supported until Leopard (I think). You shouldn't need a virtual box to run that, and if you have a PowerPC-based machine, you can't run anything newer than Leopard anyway.

    According to the site, it can be installed on an Intel mac, Unix or Windows computer using the 68k Mac emulator, Basilisk.

    It's too bad no one's really working on it at the moment. It has a Python runtime environment that looks interesting.

    I thought development for Mystic stopped in OSX.

    Nope, he releases versions for Windows, Linux, ARM and OSX. It's a really
    great package and easy to get networked too.

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  • From James Coyle@1:129/215 to Allen Prunty on Mon Jun 6 10:28:12 2016
    I thought development for Mystic stopped in OSX.

    No it has never stopped. The last release was onn June 3rd (3 days ago).

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Andrew Haworth on Mon Jun 6 14:55:08 2016

    04 Jun 16 22:13, you wrote to Bill Gordon:

    I have several good Macs, and would like to have one or more of them
    doing something instead of sitting around idle.

    Mystic for OSX is excellent. For the PowerPC, maybe try Hermes?

    i remember when the hermes related echos shut down... that was when the moderator (i think) and (possibly) last person running it closed their system for lack of traffic and interest... it was one of those SadDays<tm> :(

    )\/(ark

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  • From Bill Gordon@1:3634/22 to mark lewis on Tue Jun 7 13:54:53 2016
    i remember when the hermes related echos shut down... that was when the moderator (i think) and (possibly) last person running it closed their system for lack of traffic and interest... it was one of those SadDays<tm> :(

    Well, I don't know if I can, but I'm gonna try to set one up on my G5 PowerPC (I hope...)

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  • From Allen Prunty@1:2320/100 to Mark Lewis on Tue Jun 7 15:52:04 2016

    On Jun 06, 2016 02:59pm, mark lewis wrote to Andrew Haworth:

    i remember when the hermes related echos shut down... that was when the moderator (i think) and (possibly) last person running it closed their system for lack of traffic and interest... it was one of those
    SadDays<tm> :(

    Is Mark May still around? Is the Remote Access JAM Message base tools still obtainable?

    Allen

    /\llen

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  • From James Coyle@1:129/215 to Allen Prunty on Tue Jun 7 18:48:43 2016
    Is Mark May still around? Is the Remote Access JAM Message base tools still obtainable?

    He hasn't been around since the mid 90s to my knowledge.

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  • From Allen Prunty@1:2320/100 to Bill Gordon on Tue Jun 7 22:50:16 2016

    On Jun 07, 2016 01:54pm, Bill Gordon wrote to mark lewis:

    i remember when the hermes related echos shut down... that was when the
    moderator (i think) and (possibly) last person running it closed their
    system
    for lack of traffic and interest... it was one of those SadDays<tm> :(

    Well, I don't know if I can, but I'm gonna try to set one up on my G5 PowerPC (I hope...)

    Hermes runs on System 9... you will need to have an older version of OSX that was able to dual boot into System 9.

    Allen

    /\llen

    ... Like Sand Through The Hourglass... These Are The Days Of Our Lives
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Allen Prunty on Tue Jun 7 19:09:00 2016

    07 Jun 16 15:52, you wrote to me:

    i remember when the hermes related echos shut down... that was when
    the moderator (i think) and (possibly) last person running it closed
    their system for lack of traffic and interest... it was one of those
    SadDays<tm> :(

    Is Mark May still around?

    yes and no... yes, he's still out there... no, he's not in the BBS stuff any more...

    Is the Remote Access JAM Message base tools still obtainable?

    can you be more specific? which tool(s)??

    )\/(ark

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  • From Allen Prunty@1:2320/100 to Mark Lewis on Tue Jun 7 23:38:52 2016
    07 Jun 16 15:52, you wrote to me:

    i remember when the hermes related echos shut down... that was when
    the moderator (i think) and (possibly) last person running it closed
    their system for lack of traffic and interest... it was one of those
    SadDays<tm> :(

    Is Mark May still around?

    yes and no... yes, he's still out there... no, he's not in the BBS stuff any more...

    Is the Remote Access JAM Message base tools still obtainable?

    can you be more specific? which tool(s)??

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey

    If I do what I want ...

    I need

    1. NNTP Inbound gateway to download newsgroups
    2. SMTP in/Out for e-mail
    3. Some sort of kill file to delete newsgroup spam. I can adjust my
    killfile to anything but need a "Killfile" program

    if I have minimum this I should be able to run remoteaccess again... if
    not mystic.

    ALso do you know if I can get my multiline RA Key back?

    Allen
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Allen Prunty on Wed Jun 8 09:23:10 2016

    07 Jun 16 23:38, you wrote to me:

    If I do what I want ...

    I need

    1. NNTP Inbound gateway to download newsgroups
    2. SMTP in/Out for e-mail
    3. Some sort of kill file to delete newsgroup spam. I can adjust my killfile to anything but need a "Killfile" program

    none of these were in mark may's tools...

    if I have minimum this I should be able to run remoteaccess again...
    if not mystic.

    for the above tasks you list, i use GIGO and souper... souper pulls the news into .bag files and has its own killfile... the GIGOSMTP package allows for sending and receiving emails... everything then goes through GIGO for conversion to PKTs for fastecho to toss into the message bases... unfortunately
    i don't think there's a winwhatever flavor of GIGO or its tools...

    ALso do you know if I can get my multiline RA Key back?

    as the sole remaining beta tester and head of the beta team, i can see that you
    registered your RA at v0.04 when you were 1:11/60 but you'll have to contact the new owner, bruce morse, to get him to reissue your key... i cannot do that part...

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey

    ... Going out of my mind...be back in 5 minutes.
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  • From Allen Prunty@1:2320/100 to Mark Lewis on Wed Jun 8 16:03:20 2016

    On Jun 08, 2016 09:27am, mark lewis wrote to Allen Prunty:

    ALso do you know if I can get my multiline RA Key back?

    as the sole remaining beta tester and head of the beta team, i can see that you registered your RA at v0.04 when you were 1:11/60 but you'll
    have to contact the new owner, bruce morse, to get him to reissue your key... i cannot do that part...

    Shhhhh... don't date me... RA v0.04 was exciting times... I think I ran versions beyond that. I should be able to unlock the multi-line. I got wooed into other BBS software due to more multilines and etc.

    I ran TBBS prior to that and it just kept becoming too much of a money pit... especially for someone who was only a middle school brat and bought it all from cutting grass in the summer and doing whatever. My board did do quite nicely recovering operations funds when I charged for access to the doors and all.

    Of all the software that I ever run, I can honestly say RA was the most enjoyable one that I every ran. I was good friends with Steve and John Richardson don't know where they are now... Joho and Andrew came to visit them in Louisville... very nice people.

    I know that you have helped me much in the past but your message unlocked that blockage from my TBI... I can't remember a lot of things. I was in Fido much longer than as 1:11/60... don't know the exact dates I started with RA, but my users much preferred TBBS over RA, I much preferred RA over TBBS especially when JAM came out. I think 0.04 was still Hudson only.

    Any chance you can make the sofware for UUCP and SMTP available for FREQ? Or FTP. And does Bruce still answer his e-mail?

    Thank you millions... not so much for the software advice but for getting the old memory going again. Now is there a form of Killfile for the JAM message base to nuke some of the newsgroup spam. Since Google took it over things have gotten better with spam in the newsgroups but if I ever crossed paths with John Kinal I think it would not be a pretty site. Sorry he lost his mom but his spam is LEGENDARY.

    Allen

    /\llen

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  • From Joacim Melin@2:203/242 to Bill Gordon on Wed Jun 8 07:13:06 2016
    i remember when the hermes related echos shut down... that was when the >> moderator (i think) and (possibly) last person running it closed their syste
    m
    for lack of traffic and interest... it was one of those SadDays<tm> :( >>
    Well, I don't know if I can, but I'm gonna try to set one up on my G5 PowerPC
    (I hope...)

    Be advised: the PowerMac G5:s use _a lot_ of power, even when just being idle. They also tend to warm up any room they are placed in. :)

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  • From Bill Gordon@1:3634/22 to Joacim Melin on Thu Jun 9 09:03:00 2016
    Re: Re: BBS software for Mac OS X

    Be advised: the PowerMac G5:s use _a lot_ of power, even when just being idle
    They also tend to warm up any room they are placed in. :)

    Well, my other choice is a Mac Mini (or Mini Mac, whichever). I bought two of them cause I though they were so neat, and they work great. They are all (G5 and the Minis) are in a storage building in the back yard, with two fans running constantly, None of them have ever overheated (I know, there's always) a first time.

    Anyway, I'll see if I can even get it running. On the BIG G5 first, THEN on one of the Minis.

    Thanks for the heads-up.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Allen Prunty on Thu Jun 9 08:53:38 2016

    08 Jun 16 16:03, you wrote to me:

    Any chance you can make the sofware for UUCP and SMTP available for
    FREQ? Or FTP. And does Bruce still answer his e-mail?

    i had a look after i had written my previous message... GIGO and friends are OS/2 but the sources for at least GIGO are available and may be portable to winwhatever... i don't know... there are others available but i do not know them... pcmike (aka mike ehlert at pcmicro) might have some ideas, though...

    Thank you millions... not so much for the software advice but for
    getting the old memory going again.

    you are welcome for both :)

    Now is there a form of Killfile for the JAM message base to nuke some
    of the newsgroup spam.

    no, it is best to do that before the messages are posted to the JAM base...

    1. tool downloads news and filters the posts by its killfile
    2. filtered .bag files are processed by conversion software to PKTs
    3. your normal FTN tosser tosses the filtered converted messages to whatever message base format your system uses

    ;)

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey

    ... Ura Montanan if your first date was to go gopher hunting.
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  • From Bill Gordon@1:3634/22 to Alan Ianson on Thu Jun 9 17:10:46 2016

    Mystic has an OSX version. I have no experience with it myself but there are a couple BBSs I know of that run it.

    http://mysticbbs.com is were it can be found if you'd like to have a look.

    I downloaded the one for a Mac, and here is the result:

    Here is my Mac info:
    Processor 1.8 Ghz PowerPC G5
    Memory 1 GB DDR SDRAM
    Mac OS X 10.5.8

    Here is the error message I got while trying to install it:
    Last login: Thu Jul 23 11:14:34 on console /Users/bill/Downloads/mys111x/install ; exit;
    Power-Mac-G5:~ bill$ /Users/bill/Downloads/mys111x/install ; exit;
    -bash: /Users/bill/Downloads/mys111x/install: Bad CPU type in executable
    logout
    [Process completed]

    --- Virtual Advanced Ver 2 for DOS
    * Origin: *Square One BBS (1:3634/22)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Bill Gordon on Thu Jun 9 15:53:45 2016
    On 06/09/16, Bill Gordon said the following...

    Here is the error message I got while trying to install it:
    Last login: Thu Jul 23 11:14:34 on console /Users/bill/Downloads/mys111x/install ; exit;
    Power-Mac-G5:~ bill$ /Users/bill/Downloads/mys111x/install ; exit;
    -bash: /Users/bill/Downloads/mys111x/install: Bad CPU type in executable logout
    [Process completed]

    Sorry Bill, I don't know what that means. The Bad CPU type doesn't look promising but I am not sure. If you don't get a better answer here you may
    get a better answer in the MYSTIC echo from someone who understands that output.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Eric Oulashin@1:340/7 to Bill Gordon on Mon Jun 6 09:05:00 2016
    I'm asking again, is there a BBS software for Mac OS (PowerPC) or OS X (Intel).

    I have several good Macs, and would like to have one or more of them doing something instead of sitting around idle.

    I believe I've heard of people running Synchronet on OS X (probably built from the source code). Others have mentioned Mystic already.

    Nightfox
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  • From Eric Oulashin@1:340/7 to Bill Gordon on Thu Jun 9 09:06:58 2016
    Well, my other choice is a Mac Mini (or Mini Mac, whichever). I bought two of them cause I though they were so neat, and they work great.

    I liked the original design of the Mac Mini before the 2010 re-design. It was easier to open up and upgrade the hard drive, etc., but starting with the 2010 design, I think the only thing that's really easy to upgrade is the RAM. And more
    recently, I seem to remember reading somewhere that newer designs of the Mac Mini
    will have the RAM soldered in so you can't even upgrade that.

    Eric
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  • From robert wolfe@1:116/17 to Eric Oulashin on Sun Jun 12 08:11:54 2016
    On 06/06/16, Eric Oulashin said the following...

    I'm asking again, is there a BBS software for Mac OS (PowerPC) or OS (Intel).

    I have several good Macs, and would like to have one or more of them something instead of sitting around idle.

    I believe I've heard of people running Synchronet on OS X (probably
    built from the source code). Others have mentioned Mystic already.

    Yep, yep. Mystic :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A16 (OSX)
    * Origin: Neptune's Lair X * Memphis TN * osx.winserver.org (1:116/17)
  • From Bill Gordon@1:3634/22 to robert wolfe on Sun Jun 12 11:19:13 2016

    Yep, yep. Mystic :)


    Mystic is for Intel CPUs, and Hermes is for "Classic" OS.

    Problem is that the Mac Mini is PowerPC, and I cannot get it to load Mac OS 9.

    So....

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  • From Joacim Melin@2:203/242 to Bill Gordon on Sun Jun 12 14:33:34 2016

    Mystic has an OSX version. I have no experience with it myself but there are

    a couple BBSs I know of that run it.

    http://mysticbbs.com is were it can be found if you'd like to have a look. >>
    I downloaded the one for a Mac, and here is the result:

    Here is my Mac info:
    Processor 1.8 Ghz PowerPC G5
    Memory 1 GB DDR SDRAM
    Mac OS X 10.5.8

    Here is the error message I got while trying to install it:
    Last login: Thu Jul 23 11:14:34 on console /Users/bill/Downloads/mys111x/install ; exit;
    Power-Mac-G5:~ bill$ /Users/bill/Downloads/mys111x/install ; exit;
    -bash: /Users/bill/Downloads/mys111x/install: Bad CPU type in
    executable
    logout
    [Process completed]

    Sounds like it's an x86 executable.

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  • From Joacim Melin@2:203/242 to Sean Dennis on Sun Jun 12 14:35:21 2016
    Joacim Melin wrote to Bill Gordon <=-

    Be advised: the PowerMac G5:s use _a lot_ of power, even when just
    being idle. They also tend to warm up any room they are placed in. :)

    It's not just a PowerMac, it's a room heater too!

    --Sean

    And if you get the dual 2,5 GHz G5 with water cooling - it's a bag of hurt, sorry surprises too!

    (Hint: they fail. Really really badly.)

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