• External s/w requirements for bbbs ?

    From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Vincent Coen on Fri Feb 4 17:10:10 2022
    Does bbs have it's own mailer, echo and file processors etc ?

    Yes.

    I.e., is it a complete system ?

    Yes.

    Only ask as a quick read of the manual? does not indicate that.

    The listener is bbbsd and bbbs is the poller.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to All on Sat Feb 5 01:05:08 2022
    Hello All!

    Does bbs have it's own mailer, echo and file processors etc ?

    I.e., is it a complete system ?

    Only ask as a quick read of the manual? does not indicate that.



    Vincent
    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.24/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Chad Adams@1:19/37 to Vincent Coen on Fri Feb 4 21:00:58 2022
    Vincent,

    Yes it does. It has all of it built in. Only thing I see it missing is nntpd for
    mail. But it does have a really nice web interface.

    ItÆs a little different than normal bbs if you tried mainstream and I like the difference. ThereÆs a steep learning curve - but once you get it, itÆs super easy to manage and work and you can even program and customize it.

    ItÆs fidonet/ftn stuff is really good, and easy.

    -nugax


    Hello All!
    Does bbs have it's own mailer, echo and file processors etc ?
    I.e., is it a complete system ?
    Only ask as a quick read of the manual? does not indicate that.
    Vincent

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
    * Origin: The ByteXchange BBS | bbs.thebytexchange.com (1:19/37)
  • From Sean Rima@2:263/1.1 to Vincent Coen on Sun Feb 6 12:42:30 2022

    Hello Vincent!

    05 Feb 22 01:05, you wrote to all:

    Does bbs have it's own mailer, echo and file processors etc ?

    I.e., is it a complete system ?

    Only ask as a quick read of the manual? does not indicate that.

    Run it here, highly stable and everything needed is included. Not the easiest to setup, but once you get used to it, it is ok.

    I have mine on a headless Ubuntu server, but have run it on a Raspberry Pi which similar results.

    Mail, files, nodelist etc. Never tried hatching files though
    Sean
    --- GoldED+/OSX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: TCOB1 tcob1.duckdns.org (2:263/1.1)
  • From Chad Adams@1:19/37 to Sean Rima on Sun Feb 6 08:15:06 2022
    Hello Vincent!
    05 Feb 22 01:05, you wrote to all:
    Does bbs have it's own mailer, echo and file processors etc ?
    I.e., is it a complete system ?
    Only ask as a quick read of the manual? does not indicate that.
    Run it here, highly stable and everything needed is included. Not the easiest to setup, but once you get used to it, it is ok.
    I have mine on a headless Ubuntu server, but have run it on a Raspberry Pi which similar results.

    Interested in knowing how you run the wfc screen. Do you run it in the background or something?

    Right now, I use screen and just detach but IÆd rather run it just as a forked process. Maybe in the future, we can get a forkable command that runs binkp call
    outs instead of a really old wfc screen. Most folks run headless and even more on VPS servers where we canÆt run wfc screens.


    Mail, files, nodelist etc. Never tried hatching files though
    Sean

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
    * Origin: The ByteXchange BBS | bbs.thebytexchange.com (Hideaway, T) (1:19/37)
  • From Sean Rima@2:263/1.1 to Chad Adams on Sun Feb 6 14:49:17 2022

    Hello Chad!

    06 Feb 22 08:15, you wrote to me:

    Hello Vincent!
    05 Feb 22 01:05, you wrote to all:
    Does bbs have it's own mailer, echo and file processors etc ?
    I.e., is it a complete system ?
    Only ask as a quick read of the manual? does not indicate that.
    Run it here, highly stable and everything needed is included. Not
    the easiest to setup, but once you get used to it, it is ok. I have
    mine on a headless Ubuntu server, but have run it on a Raspberry Pi
    which similar results.

    Interested in knowing how you run the wfc screen. Do you run it in the background or something?

    Right now, I use screen and just detach but Iíd rather run it just as
    a forked process. Maybe in the future, we can get a forkable command
    that runs binkp call outs instead of a really old wfc screen. Most
    folks run headless and even more on VPS servers where we canít run
    wfc screens.


    Never used it with Screen as the ubuntu box, a light weight embedded dell PC that i stuck Ubuntu on. There is no need for screen. I can ssh into the box and use BBBS from the command line. Or telnet in if I need to read netmails. Or http(s) in as well :)

    I tend to use binkd/hpt for point or bluewave mail for my own ftn echo stuff.

    BBBS starts at boot up using the @reboot cron event. I don't put the bbbsd onto standard ports simply to stop a lot of crap coming through trying to hack. I just cron mail processing every 5 minutes



    Sean
    --- GoldED+/OSX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: TCOB1 tcob1.duckdns.org (2:263/1.1)
  • From Chad Adams@1:19/37 to Sean Rima on Sun Feb 6 12:42:50 2022
    So you use binkd. Not the built in binkp server and the wfc screen for dialing out?

    How do you dial systems to grab mail? Binkd?



    Hello Chad!
    06 Feb 22 08:15, you wrote to me:
    Hello Vincent!
    05 Feb 22 01:05, you wrote to all:
    Does bbs have it's own mailer, echo and file processors etc ?
    I.e., is it a complete system ?
    Only ask as a quick read of the manual? does not indicate that.
    Run it here, highly stable and everything needed is included. Not
    the easiest to setup, but once you get used to it, it is ok. I have
    mine on a headless Ubuntu server, but have run it on a Raspberry Pi
    which similar results.
    Interested in knowing how you run the wfc screen. Do you run it in the
    background or something?
    Right now, I use screen and just detach but IÆd rather run it just as
    a forked process. Maybe in the future, we can get a forkable command
    that runs binkp call outs instead of a really old wfc screen. Most
    folks run headless and even more on VPS servers where we canÆt run
    wfc screens.
    Never used it with Screen as the ubuntu box, a light weight embedded dell PC
    that i stuck Ubuntu on. There is no need for screen. I can ssh into the box an
    use BBBS from the command line. Or telnet in if I need to read netmails. Or http(s) in as well :)
    I tend to use binkd/hpt for point or bluewave mail for my own ftn echo stuff.
    BBBS starts at boot up using the @reboot cron event. I don't put the bbbsd ont
    standard ports simply to stop a lot of crap coming through trying to hack. I just cron mail processing every 5 minutes
    Sean

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
    * Origin: The ByteXchange BBS | bbs.thebytexchange.com (Hideaway, T) (1:19/37)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Sean Rima on Sun Feb 6 22:06:17 2022
    Hello Sean!

    Sunday February 06 2022 12:42, you wrote to me:


    Hello Vincent!

    05 Feb 22 01:05, you wrote to all:

    Does bbs have it's own mailer, echo and file processors etc ?

    I.e., is it a complete system ?

    Only ask as a quick read of the manual? does not indicate that.

    Run it here, highly stable and everything needed is included. Not the easiest to setup, but once you get used to it, it is ok.

    I have mine on a headless Ubuntu server, but have run it on a
    Raspberry Pi which similar results.

    Mail, files, nodelist etc. Never tried hatching files though
    Sean

    I assume the Pi is a 4 and mine although having a Sata drive connected via a USB link is still slow on a 3B+ but do want to set it up with mbse as a back
    up system for Elist processing using the primary bbs as the only uplink.

    That way if I have to stop (Health etc) I can pass the kit on to who ever takes
    the ELIST service on with minimum changes.

    Thanks for the information and the same to all others who replied.

    I do not thing I will go with it as it is expensive compared to mbse and I am well retired and Mr. Wallet says no :(

    Even more so with power supplies increasing at 200 - 300 % and still climbing.

    Vincent
    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.24/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Chad Adams@1:19/37 to Sean Rima on Sun Feb 6 20:32:14 2022
    Sean,

    For some reason, I cant get binkd to find my outgoing mail packets. I have it setup correctly and pointed to the outbound dir for the domain (40). It sends fine through bbbs tcpip but doesnt even find it or try with binkd. It does recieve files from via binkd.

    I have the domain as:
    domain cybernet /opt/bbbs/fido/outbound 40

    This is for Cybernet which my node is: 40:100/2

    It does put a .try file in the outbound dir, but doesnt send. didnt see anything in the logfile either.

    Any thoughts?



    Hello Chad!

    06 Feb 22 08:15, you wrote to me:

    Hello Vincent!
    05 Feb 22 01:05, you wrote to all:
    Does bbs have it's own mailer, echo and file processors etc ?
    I.e., is it a complete system ?
    Only ask as a quick read of the manual? does not indicate that.
    Run it here, highly stable and everything needed is included. Not
    the easiest to setup, but once you get used to it, it is ok. I have
    mine on a headless Ubuntu server, but have run it on a Raspberry Pi
    which similar results.

    Interested in knowing how you run the wfc screen. Do you run it in the
    background or something?

    Right now, I use screen and just detach but IÆd rather run it just as
    a forked process. Maybe in the future, we can get a forkable command
    that runs binkp call outs instead of a really old wfc screen. Most
    folks run headless and even more on VPS servers where we canÆt run
    wfc screens.


    Never used it with Screen as the ubuntu box, a light weight embedded dell PC
    that i stuck Ubuntu on. There is no need for screen. I can ssh into the box an
    use BBBS from the command line. Or telnet in if I need to read netmails. Or http(s) in as well :)

    I tend to use binkd/hpt for point or bluewave mail for my own ftn echo stuff.

    BBBS starts at boot up using the @reboot cron event. I don't put the bbbsd ont
    standard ports simply to stop a lot of crap coming through trying to hack. I just cron mail processing every 5 minutes



    Sean

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
    * Origin: The ByteXchange BBS | bbs.thebytexchange.com (Hideaway, T) (1:19/37)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Chad Adams on Sun Feb 6 20:53:06 2022
    Sean,

    For some reason, I cant get binkd to find my outgoing mail packets. I have it setup correctly and pointed to the outbound dir for the domain (40). It sends fine through bbbs tcpip but doesnt even find it or try with binkd. It does recieve files from via binkd.

    I have the domain as:
    domain cybernet /opt/bbbs/fido/outbound 40

    This is for Cybernet which my node is: 40:100/2

    It does put a .try file in the outbound dir, but doesnt send. didnt see anything in the logfile either.

    BBBS doesn't use a BSO type outbound, it has a dynamic mailer like FrontDoor.

    If you want to use Binkd you would need to use another tosser with it and then use bmsg instead of bogus with BBBS. That's a lot more stuff to take care of.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
  • From Chad Adams@1:153/757 to Alan Ianson on Sun Feb 6 21:06:28 2022
    That explains a LOT. Give me an example of a tosser...



    Sean,

    For some reason, I cant get binkd to find my outgoing mail packets. I have >> it setup correctly and pointed to the outbound dir for the domain (40). It >> sends fine through bbbs tcpip but doesnt even find it or try with binkd. It >> does recieve files from via binkd.

    I have the domain as:
    domain cybernet /opt/bbbs/fido/outbound 40

    This is for Cybernet which my node is: 40:100/2

    It does put a .try file in the outbound dir, but doesnt send. didnt see
    anything in the logfile either.

    BBBS doesn't use a BSO type outbound, it has a dynamic mailer like FrontDoor.

    If you want to use Binkd you would need to use another tosser with it and then
    use bmsg instead of bogus with BBBS. That's a lot more stuff to take care of.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Chad Adams on Sun Feb 6 21:15:38 2022
    That explains a LOT. Give me an example of a tosser...

    Any tosser would do, hpt, fmail or the tosser of your choice that supports *.MSG.

    You would need to use binkd or any mailer that supports the BSO.

    Have that tosser toss to *.MSG areas and then in the BBBS area setup put the path to those areas in *.MSG dir field and toss/scan with ./bbbs bmsg.

    I have never done this but as far as I undertand this is how to do it.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
  • From Sean Rima@2:263/1.1 to Chad Adams on Mon Feb 7 13:35:12 2022

    Hello Chad!

    06 Feb 22 12:42, you wrote to me:

    So you use binkd. Not the built in binkp server and the wfc screen for dialing out?

    How do you dial systems to grab mail? Binkd?

    Notice I an not using ny node aka, but a point aka, that is why I use BinkP

    Sean


    --- GoldED+/OSX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: TCOB1 tcob1.duckdns.org (2:263/1.1)
  • From Sean Rima@2:263/1.1 to Vincent Coen on Mon Feb 7 13:36:18 2022

    Hello Vincent!

    06 Feb 22 22:06, you wrote to me:

    Does bbs have it's own mailer, echo and file processors etc ?

    I.e., is it a complete system ?

    Only ask as a quick read of the manual? does not indicate that.

    Run it here, highly stable and everything needed is included. Not
    the easiest to setup, but once you get used to it, it is ok.

    I have mine on a headless Ubuntu server, but have run it on a
    Raspberry Pi which similar results.

    Mail, files, nodelist etc. Never tried hatching files though
    Sean

    I assume the Pi is a 4 and mine although having a Sata drive connected
    via a USB link is still slow on a 3B+ but do want to set it up with
    mbse as a back up system for Elist processing using the primary bbs as
    the only uplink.

    No, Pi 3B. It is a low system user :)

    That way if I have to stop (Health etc) I can pass the kit on to who
    ever takes the ELIST service on with minimum changes.

    Thanks for the information and the same to all others who replied.

    Yeah always good to have a backup plan, the way my health is going, I am putting one into place


    Sean


    --- GoldED+/OSX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: TCOB1 tcob1.duckdns.org (2:263/1.1)
  • From Sean Rima@2:263/1.1 to Chad Adams on Mon Feb 7 13:37:48 2022

    Hello Chad!

    06 Feb 22 20:32, you wrote to me:

    Sean,

    For some reason, I cant get binkd to find my outgoing mail packets. I have it setup correctly and pointed to the outbound dir for the domain (40). It sends fine through bbbs tcpip but doesnt even find it or try
    with binkd. It does recieve files from via binkd.

    I have the domain as:
    domain cybernet /opt/bbbs/fido/outbound 40

    This is for Cybernet which my node is: 40:100/2

    It does put a .try file in the outbound dir, but doesnt send. didnt
    see anything in the logfile either.

    BBBS doesnt use Binkley Flo for outbound but netmail attach messages which may explain why you cannot find anything


    Sean


    --- GoldED+/OSX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: TCOB1 tcob1.duckdns.org (2:263/1.1)
  • From Sean Rima@2:263/1 to Chad Adams on Mon Feb 7 13:41:18 2022
    Chad Adams wrote to Sean Rima <=-

    So you use binkd. Not the built in binkp server and the wfc screen for dialing out?

    How do you dial systems to grab mail? Binkd?


    And this is from my Node, using bluemail ;)

    BBBS does all my mail/bbs etc. I just find it easier to read mail remotely

    Sean

    ... TCOB1: telnet/ binkd / https(P: 9043) tcob1.duckdns.org

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
    * Origin: TCOB1 at tcob1.duckdns.org BinkP / Telnet (2:263/1)
  • From kishpa@beholderbbs.org@2:222/2 to bbbs-english-list on Thu Feb 10 08:21:48 2022
    From: Enric Lleal Serra <kishpa@beholderbbs.org>
    To: bbbs-english-list@bbbs.net

    Hi Sean,

    El dl. 07 de 02 de 2022 a les 11:41 +0000, en/na bbbs-english-list@bbbs.net va escriure:


    And this is from my Node, using bluemail ;)

    BlueMail!! :-o

    I think this[1] is not the BlueMail I'm looking for...

    Could you let me know from where I can get the BBBS[2] compatible BlueMail (for Linux)?

    Thanks in advance...


    [1]https://bluemail.me/
    [2]http://home.wtal.de/ib/bluemail/


    A reveure!!
    Enric
    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
    * Origin: * BCG-Box, On The Air Since 11th February 1987! * (2:222/2)