• Child-proofing tank?

    From Amy S. Bruckman@1:278/230 to All on Tue May 18 19:00:00 2004
    My son is just learning to crawl, and I'm concerned that he's going to
    pull our fish tank crashing down on his head! Can anyone recommend
    a tank base that will be really stable on an old, uneven hardwood floor?

    We have a 20 gallon long tank. My current tank base is hollow with a
    door in the front to keep equipment. The weight of the tank is
    distributed around the perimeter of the base. (It doesn't have legs--
    the whole perimeter of the rectangular shape touches the floor.)
    Since our floors are uneven, I had to shim it with cardboard to make
    it stable. I can latch/nail the door shut so the door doesn't act as
    a lever to destabilize the weight, and keep the chemicals on a high
    shelf. But even with that, I'm concerned that it might be possible to
    tip it over. (Heck, just start picking away at the cardboard shim....)

    All suggestions appreciated!

    -- Amy, asb@cc.gatech.edu

    p.s. He loves the fishies. Stares at them and stares at them and
    smiles. :-)
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  • From Andy Hill@1:278/230 to All on Tue May 18 23:46:00 2004
    asb@cc.gatech.edu (Amy S. Bruckman) wrote:
    My son is just learning to crawl, and I'm concerned that he's going to
    pull our fish tank crashing down on his head! Can anyone recommend
    a tank base that will be really stable on an old, uneven hardwood floor?

    We have a 20 gallon long tank. My current tank base is hollow with a
    door in the front to keep equipment. The weight of the tank is
    distributed around the perimeter of the base. (It doesn't have legs--
    the whole perimeter of the rectangular shape touches the floor.)
    Since our floors are uneven, I had to shim it with cardboard to make
    it stable. I can latch/nail the door shut so the door doesn't act as
    a lever to destabilize the weight, and keep the chemicals on a high
    shelf. But even with that, I'm concerned that it might be possible to
    tip it over. (Heck, just start picking away at the cardboard shim....)

    All suggestions appreciated!

    -- Amy, asb@cc.gatech.edu

    p.s. He loves the fishies. Stares at them and stares at them and
    smiles. :-)

    Do you have a wall behind the base? I have a similar (I think) base -- I anchored it to the wall studs with a steel angle bracket and some deck screws. While this particular anchor hasn't been put to the acid test, a similar anchor on a 7' bookcase earned its keep when my son tried to climb it to get a book on the top shelf. He learned "it's not a good idea to climb the bookshelves" when
    one of the shelf supports snapped and dropped him and quite a few books to the floor, but didn't have to learn that "the hospital is a sucky place to spend a week when 100+ lbs of bookcase lands on you".
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  • From Johnhuddleston@1:278/230 to All on Tue May 18 23:46:00 2004
    Screw it too the wall, either throught he backing of the cupboard (with
    washers on the screw heads) or with those litle plastic blocks or right
    angle brackets. If its freestanding you could even screw the tank base to
    the floor at each corner.

    "Amy S. Bruckman" <asb@cc.gatech.edu> wrote in message news:c8ds6q$m6l@pufnstuf.cc.gatech.edu...
    My son is just learning to crawl, and I'm concerned that he's going to
    pull our fish tank crashing down on his head! Can anyone recommend
    a tank base that will be really stable on an old, uneven hardwood floor?

    We have a 20 gallon long tank. My current tank base is hollow with a
    door in the front to keep equipment. The weight of the tank is
    distributed around the perimeter of the base. (It doesn't have legs--
    the whole perimeter of the rectangular shape touches the floor.)
    Since our floors are uneven, I had to shim it with cardboard to make
    it stable. I can latch/nail the door shut so the door doesn't act as
    a lever to destabilize the weight, and keep the chemicals on a high
    shelf. But even with that, I'm concerned that it might be possible to
    tip it over. (Heck, just start picking away at the cardboard shim....)

    All suggestions appreciated!

    -- Amy, asb@cc.gatech.edu

    p.s. He loves the fishies. Stares at them and stares at them and
    smiles. :-)
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  • From The Outcaste@1:278/230 to All on Tue May 18 23:46:00 2004
    On 18 May 2004 16:37:46 -0400, asb@cc.gatech.edu (Amy S. Bruckman)
    bubbled forth the following:

    My son is just learning to crawl, and I'm concerned that he's going to
    pull our fish tank crashing down on his head! Can anyone recommend
    a tank base that will be really stable on an old, uneven hardwood floor?

    We have a 20 gallon long tank. My current tank base is hollow with a
    door in the front to keep equipment. The weight of the tank is
    distributed around the perimeter of the base. (It doesn't have legs--
    the whole perimeter of the rectangular shape touches the floor.)
    Since our floors are uneven, I had to shim it with cardboard to make
    it stable. I can latch/nail the door shut so the door doesn't act as
    a lever to destabilize the weight, and keep the chemicals on a high
    shelf. But even with that, I'm concerned that it might be possible to
    tip it over. (Heck, just start picking away at the cardboard shim....)

    All suggestions appreciated!

    -- Amy, asb@cc.gatech.edu

    p.s. He loves the fishies. Stares at them and stares at them and
    smiles. :-)

    Assuming standard stud type wall, take a 2" x 2" board the same width
    as the stand and screw it horizontally to the wall behind the tank.
    Make sure you get it screwed into at least 2 studs.

    Next, 2 short pieces of pine/oak 1" x 2" or 1" x 3" stained to match
    the stand are screwed onto the sides of the stand and to the ends of
    the 2" x 2".

    A less visible approach is to cut the 2" x 2" shorter than the stand,
    then use a metal "L" bracket screwed to the back of the stand and the
    end of the 2" x 2" board.

    If the tank is close enough to the wall, you can just run long screws
    with washers through the back of the stand into the 2" x 2".

    Another option is to use "L" brackets and fasten the base of the stand
    to the floor, assuming you don't mind putting holes in the hardwood
    floor.

    HTH

    Jerry
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  • From Glofish@1:278/230 to All on Wed May 19 07:45:00 2004
    On 18 May 2004 16:37:46 -0400, asb@cc.gatech.edu (Amy S. Bruckman)
    wrote:

    My son is just learning to crawl, and I'm concerned that he's going to
    pull our fish tank crashing down on his head! Can anyone recommend
    a tank base that will be really stable on an old, uneven hardwood floor?

    We have a 20 gallon long tank. My current tank base is hollow with a
    door in the front to keep equipment. The weight of the tank is
    distributed around the perimeter of the base. (It doesn't have legs--
    the whole perimeter of the rectangular shape touches the floor.)
    Since our floors are uneven, I had to shim it with cardboard to make
    it stable. I can latch/nail the door shut so the door doesn't act as
    a lever to destabilize the weight, and keep the chemicals on a high
    shelf. But even with that, I'm concerned that it might be possible to
    tip it over. (Heck, just start picking away at the cardboard shim....)

    All suggestions appreciated!

    -- Amy, asb@cc.gatech.edu

    p.s. He loves the fishies. Stares at them and stares at them and
    smiles. :-)

    Amy,

    Our 13 month old is in a similar situation... only we made it worse...
    we put a 45 gallon in the nursery..

    The baby stores sell devices to do what everyone else has
    suggested.... we got one for the changing table, and now have two on
    the aquarium stand. One on each end of the stand.

    We had no issues until he learned to stand and walk, but he is
    learning "No" and actually obeys, too... (usually)

    He does love the tank, and the fish, he has even managed to climb on
    toys to look inside. He has mastered the door on the stand. When he
    is trying to get to the stand or tank, you can see the water moving,
    but the braces seem to be holding so far.

    As for the shimming... you might be better off getting a 1/2" piece of pressboard cut slightly larger than the base of the stand (1/4 inch
    more.) Using wood shims, staple-gun/nail them to the new base.

    It's a bit of pain now that the tank is working... but it has been
    worth it to us, the tank is level, and isn't going anywhere until we
    are ready to move.

    Good luck....


    --Tony
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  • From Barry Martin@1:278/230 to Amy S. Bruckman on Wed May 19 07:15:00 2004
    Amy:

    My son is just learning to crawl, and I'm concerned that he's going to
    pull our fish tank crashing down on his head! Can anyone recommend
    a tank base that will be really stable on an old, uneven hardwood floor?

    The first thing coming to my mind was also some sort of a bracket
    screwed into the top of the base (just under the aquarium itself. The
    other respondant's suggestion of L- (or right angle) bracket at the
    bottom doesn't seem like it would keep the unit from being tipped
    over. OTOH if it was something like 12" per arm and made of ~1/4"
    steel like the ones providing support to the shelf at the customer
    service window at the store......

    Easiest thing is probably to screw two long wood screws into the wall
    studs behind and just under the tank. Ones with hex heads might be
    easer, especially if you have (or can borrow) a ratchet driver. (Straight/slotted screw heads and Phillips [cross] can slip,
    especially is tight spaces. Also have to remember the wood studs are
    probably several years old and wood will get harder as it dries.
    (Drilling a pilot hole roughly half the diameter of the screw's
    diameter can help make the screwing-in easier.)

    The length of the screw is important. You want to go into the stud at
    least an inch, the drywall is roughly a half-inch thick.

    You can use a carriage washer to help distribute the support -- is a
    large diameter washer with a smaller hole (whatever is needed to fit
    the screw head).

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  • From Amy S. Bruckman@1:278/230 to All on Fri May 21 02:42:00 2004
    Thanks for all the great advice!
    Looks like I have a weekend project on my hands. :-)
    -- Amy

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