For your interested, Advocates for Animals (Scotland, UK) are
launching a campaign called GLASS PRISONS, EMPTY LIVES about the
problems of keeping tropical fish. You can see it at:
http://www.advocatesforanimals.org/glassprisons/glassprisons.htm
Interesting article. Although, personally, I wouldn't go as far as calling
my fish "sentient"...
One thing that repeatedly comes up in the article is how the fish can
"see its reflection in the tank's front glass." That appears to be impossible to me: the fish look right through the glass from the inside, just as we
look right through the glass from the outside. Any reflection would be
very faint and almost invisible because, at an angle of close to 90 degrees, glass reflects very little light.
I do feel sorry for the thousands of poor bettas though. Being forced
to hang motionless in a few cubic inches of water is cruelty in my book.
(And having kept bettas before, I know that they like to swim around
a lot if they have the room to do so...)
callingInteresting article. Although, personally, I wouldn't go as far as
my fish "sentient"...
How would you define "sentient". Do not you think that fish have
senses and brain?
impossibleOne thing that repeatedly comes up in the article is how the fish can
"see its reflection in the tank's front glass." That appears to be
degrees,to me: the fish look right through the glass from the inside, just as we look right through the glass from the outside. Any reflection would be
very faint and almost invisible because, at an angle of close to 90
glass reflects very little light.
The ability to see areflection from inside a tank depends on two
things: to have eyes with a brain to interpret images, and that there
is more light inside the tank than outside the tank. Both occurrences
are common in the case of fish and aquaria.
If you can see the reflection of the fish in the tank walls, then the
chances are the fish can also see it.
Regarding you 90 degrees explanation, you seem to live in a different universe than mine (forgive me the sarcastic tone). In my universe, I
only can see my reflection in a mirrow if it is placed at 90 degrees
from my eyesight.
It is different when you a trying to see your own reflection through a
galss that has a light in the other side shining towards you. If you
then move away from the light you will see more reflections in the
glass, but not yours.
In the case of fish, because in most occasions the light inside the
tank is more intense than the one outside, reflectiins inside will
occur. But when you turn the tank lights off, then the reflection
ceases.
I do feel sorry for the thousands of poor bettas though. Being forced
to hang motionless in a few cubic inches of water is cruelty in my book. (And having kept bettas before, I know that they like to swim around
a lot if they have the room to do so...)
I agree with you there.---
For your interested, Advocates for Animals (Scotland, UK) are
launching a campaign called GLASS PRISONS, EMPTY LIVES about the
problems of keeping tropical fish. You can see it at:
http://www.advocatesforanimals.org/glassprisons/glassprisons.htm
Also, few days ago they launched one about exotic pets:
http://www.advocatesforanimals.org/exotics
They have both being launched in anticipation of the possible buying
frenzy this Christmas of exotic pets/fish as a consequence of the
popularity of 'Finding Nemo' and the 'Teenager Ninja Turtles' films.
Jordi
Jordi Casamitjana wrote:
For your interested, Advocates for Animals (Scotland, UK) are
launching a campaign called GLASS PRISONS, EMPTY LIVES about the
problems of keeping tropical fish. You can see it at:
http://www.advocatesforanimals.org/glassprisons/glassprisons.htm
Also, few days ago they launched one about exotic pets:
http://www.advocatesforanimals.org/exotics
They have both being launched in anticipation of the possible buying
frenzy this Christmas of exotic pets/fish as a consequence of the popularity of 'Finding Nemo' and the 'Teenager Ninja Turtles' films.
---Jordi
Why is it that people like this come along every so-often, spreading there propaganda like a cancer, expecting everyone else out there to "Bow to
there Wishes" and comply with there deranged ideas and thoughts.
Could I suggest that you crawl back under your rock and stay there... People are not interested in your crap,,, Many,Many people in this world, only have an
animal as a companion or friend, and they have nothing else.
But I will be taking a very close look at your web sites, and if I can do anything to disrupt, or stop your stupid deranged ideas, I will...
bassett
knowing it would disturb this and other aquaria groups.
Kay
Bassett wrote:there
Why is it that people like this come along every so-often, spreading
world,propaganda like a cancer, expecting everyone else out there to "Bow to there Wishes" and comply with there deranged ideas and thoughts.
Could I suggest that you crawl back under your rock and stay there... People are not interested in your crap,,, Many,Many people in this
doonly have an
animal as a companion or friend, and they have nothing else.
But I will be taking a very close look at your web sites, and if I can
anything to disrupt, or stop your stupid deranged ideas, I will...
bassett
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