• Filter opinions?

    From Dan Norgard@1:278/230 to All on Fri Aug 29 07:19:00 2003
    Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT system?
    The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new one, perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
    Thanks,

    Dan
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  • From Racf@1:278/230 to All on Fri Aug 29 07:19:00 2003
    "Dan Norgard" <dnorgard@interwrx.com> wrote in message news:vktcr8c029vn3f@corp.supernews.com...
    Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT
    system?
    The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new
    one,
    perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
    Thanks,

    Dan



    For a 29H tank, go with the Emperor 400. The 280s are good only when
    the 400 will not fit, in my case on a 37H(the cross brace).
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  • From Aquatic-Store.Com@1:278/230 to All on Fri Aug 29 16:29:00 2003
    Give us a little more info
    Tanks size
    Fish type
    Fresh or saltwater etc

    Marcus

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    Co2 tanks on sale
    Eheim 2026 $143
    Co2 regulator and bubble counter with needle valve $75

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    On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:00:13 -0700, "Dan Norgard"
    <dnorgard@interwrx.com> wrote:

    Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT system?
    The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new one, >perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
    Thanks,

    Dan

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  • From Ruprecte@1:278/230 to All on Fri Aug 29 16:45:00 2003
    "AQUATIC-STORE.COM" <sales a@t aquatic-store.com> wrote in message news:1ravkvouqds155cbk69c4mi4sm2aclapif@4ax.com...
    Give us a little more info
    Tanks size
    Fish type
    Fresh or saltwater etc

    Marcus

    http://www.aquatic-store.com/

    Co2 tanks on sale
    Eheim 2026 $143
    Co2 regulator and bubble counter with needle valve $75

    WEBBOARD

    http://aquatic.yupapa.com/phpbb/index.php







    On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:00:13 -0700, "Dan Norgard"
    <dnorgard@interwrx.com> wrote:

    Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT system? >The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new one, >perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
    Thanks,

    Dan

    I recently (three weeks ago) ran into the same situation. My 29g kit came
    with an aquatech filter and it started to notably slow down. I ended up
    getting the HOT and running it on the opposite side (on the back) from the aquatech (which is doing alright still). Im really happy witht the HOT the ability to customize your output flow is very nice (adjustible for vertical ((up and down at the same time) and horizontal), and with the mechanical filtration (with cage for carbon, filter floss etc) works extremely well,
    the micron cartridge is okay though, get dirty fast, tough to clean (soak in bleach solution ((10%) then dry and rinse again), but works well to polish
    the water every once in a while. Another bonus to the HOT in a 29g is that
    you will be filtering your tank water around 8X an hour, very nice. Okay Ive said my piece, I dont have anything to offer regarding the other filter as I have no experience with them. Cheers, Brian Oh and if you do go with the HOT make sure to buy it on line around 60 bucks, all the LFS Ive seen offer it
    at around 80$ on sale.






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  • From Dan Norgard@1:278/230 to All on Fri Aug 29 21:38:00 2003
    29 gallon planted freshwater with 6 neons, 3 black skirt tetras, 4 rosy
    tetras, 2 otos, one apple snail, 3 ghost shrimp and soon 2 dwarf flame gouramis. Right now it has the TopFin filter it came with.
    Thanks to all!
    Dan
    "AQUATIC-STORE.COM" <sales a@t aquatic-store.com> wrote in message news:1ravkvouqds155cbk69c4mi4sm2aclapif@4ax.com...
    Give us a little more info
    Tanks size
    Fish type
    Fresh or saltwater etc

    Marcus

    http://www.aquatic-store.com/

    Co2 tanks on sale
    Eheim 2026 $143
    Co2 regulator and bubble counter with needle valve $75

    WEBBOARD

    http://aquatic.yupapa.com/phpbb/index.php







    On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:00:13 -0700, "Dan Norgard"
    <dnorgard@interwrx.com> wrote:

    Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT system?
    The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new one, >perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
    Thanks,

    Dan

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  • From Tin-Tin@1:278/230 to All on Tue Sep 2 21:47:00 2003
    Hi

    I've been 15 years in the hobby and what I can say is that today, most
    filters on the market are very expensive, very complex for nothing and
    not very efficient. The marketing hype around most new models is really getting out of hand.

    I don't really recomment filters like the magnum. If you want to go for powerfiltration, get Eheim, trust me. The best filtration systems
    remain the classic German-made Eheim cannisters (Fluvals are toys with by-passes), good old undergravels and yes, plain sponge filters (air or powerhead operated ones). Hang-on-the-tank Aquaclears and similar
    filters with biowheels are IMHO a major waste of money as they have
    by-passes and are poor biological filters. I don't know about the
    emperor but if it is built like aquaclears and penguins, its the last
    thing I would buy.

    Remember that a tank that is properly taken care of doesn't need extreme filtration except for coldwater, messy species or very large tanks.

    Cheers

    Dan Norgard wrote:
    Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT system?
    The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new one, perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
    Thanks,

    Dan


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  • From Bob K.@1:278/230 to All on Wed Sep 3 07:20:00 2003
    Opinions are useful, but an Eheim for a 29 gal tank isn't the best
    answer. It depends much on what kind of fish and the bio load.

    My 2cents

    I've got a number of different filters I've accululated by buying used
    tanks over the years, and I'm using all of them. The worst for me
    is an undergravel filter - but for a planted display tank, and not heavily loaded with fish - it may be a good solution!

    Box filters are fine for a smaller tank where you have a vibrator pump
    and you don't want to add an expense of a power filter.

    Old Whispers for 10-20 gal tanks are junk, clogging up too quick and
    have too little water flow.

    Hot Magnum and Magnum 350 are good and easy to clean, the Eheim
    is a bear to clean and I don't see it moving more water than the
    Magnums.

    For a number of tanks used in a breeding setup (as I have), foam
    filters will NOT suck up tiny fry or brine shrimp and are excellent
    bacteria housing. Not good for detritus though.

    My favorite power filter, and the only one I'd buy are the aquaclear 300.
    Rated at 300 gph (& they do move water!) I've never had one clog up.
    and you can slightly adjust the flow if used on a smaller tank.
    (& they're currently on sale for $20 in the latest Drs Foster & Smith)

    DO NOT discard your filter material when it gets dirty! Wash it out
    and return it .. I have filter floss (fabric store - quilt batting!) that
    is stillin use for over 5 years. Some older foam is breaking up and
    a friend says his big CA cichlids chew them to pieces! ..

    Bob

    I've been 15 years in the hobby and what I can say is that today, most >filters on the market are very expensive, very complex for nothing and
    not very efficient. The marketing hype around most new models is really >getting out of hand.

    I don't really recomment filters like the magnum. If you want to go for >powerfiltration, get Eheim, trust me. The best filtration systems
    remain the classic German-made Eheim cannisters (Fluvals are toys with >by-passes), good old undergravels and yes, plain sponge filters (air or >powerhead operated ones). Hang-on-the-tank Aquaclears and similar
    filters with biowheels are IMHO a major waste of money as they have >by-passes and are poor biological filters. I don't know about the
    emperor but if it is built like aquaclears and penguins, its the last
    thing I would buy.

    Remember that a tank that is properly taken care of doesn't need extreme >filtration except for coldwater, messy species or very large tanks.

    Cheers

    Dan Norgard wrote:
    Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT system?
    The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new one,
    perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
    Thanks,

    Dan
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  • From Racf@1:278/230 to All on Wed Sep 3 07:20:00 2003
    "Tin-Tin" <martboy@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:Jw85b.7703$Kj.621582@news20.bellglobal.com...
    Hi

    I've been 15 years in the hobby and what I can say is that today, most filters on the market are very expensive, very complex for nothing and
    not very efficient. The marketing hype around most new models is
    really
    getting out of hand.

    I don't really recomment filters like the magnum. If you want to go
    for
    powerfiltration, get Eheim, trust me. The best filtration systems
    remain the classic German-made Eheim cannisters (Fluvals are toys with by-passes), good old undergravels and yes, plain sponge filters (air
    or
    powerhead operated ones). Hang-on-the-tank Aquaclears and similar
    filters with biowheels are IMHO a major waste of money as they have
    by-passes and are poor biological filters. I don't know about the
    emperor but if it is built like aquaclears and penguins, its the last
    thing I would buy.

    Remember that a tank that is properly taken care of doesn't need
    extreme
    filtration except for coldwater, messy species or very large tanks.

    Cheers


    Your comments are fairly consistent with all the others I have seen from
    folks whom use Eheim filters. I see no point in disputing your facts or opinion. If I were to decide to buy another canister filter I would
    certainly be looking for a used Eheim. I consider them the Harley
    Davidson of aquarium filters. They only become more valuable with age
    and have a huge following. Their design stays true to their roots.
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  • From Larry Blanchard@1:278/230 to All on Wed Sep 3 21:43:00 2003
    In article <y_b5b.17119$EW1.1571@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>, racf_123@hotmail.com says...

    Your comments are fairly consistent with all the others I have seen from folks whom use Eheim filters. I see no point in disputing your facts or opinion. If I were to decide to buy another canister filter I would certainly be looking for a used Eheim.

    How about the Eheim submersible filters for a small aquarium? I've just acquired a 20 gallon in which I plan to put a couple of goldfish
    (shubunkins).

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  • From Racf@1:278/230 to All on Wed Sep 3 21:43:00 2003
    "Larry Blanchard" <lblanch@fastmail.fm> wrote in message news:bj5lda$fiua2$1@ID-124996.news.uni-berlin.de...
    In article <y_b5b.17119$EW1.1571@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>, racf_123@hotmail.com says...

    Your comments are fairly consistent with all the others I have seen
    from
    folks whom use Eheim filters. I see no point in disputing your
    facts or
    opinion. If I were to decide to buy another canister filter I would certainly be looking for a used Eheim.

    How about the Eheim submersible filters for a small aquarium? I've
    just
    acquired a 20 gallon in which I plan to put a couple of goldfish (shubunkins).

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    I am afraid that I have become hopelessly obsessed with using Emperor
    bio-wheel filters. I have used a 400 model on a 20 gallon long and it
    worked really well.
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