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    From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to All on Fri Apr 11 17:14:49 2008
    anyone here?
    xxcarol
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  • From Jeff Smith@1:14/5 to Carol Shenkenberger on Fri Apr 11 23:42:02 2008
    Hello Carol.

    11 Apr 08 17:14, you wrote to all:

    anyone here?


    Yeah, but I am willing to bet that were not all here. <g>


    xxcarol
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    Jeff

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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Apr 12 06:04:00 2008
    anyone here?

    Just us. (-:


    Regards,

    Roger

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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/42 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Apr 12 10:54:29 2008
    anyone here?

    Nope.

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Jeff Smith on Sat Apr 12 14:19:20 2008

    anyone here?


    Yeah, but I am willing to bet that were not all here. <g>

    Well we did the initial steps to get the 70G tank going. Got some water cure stuff and some new gravel. Not quite enough gravel yet but wasnt sure how
    much I would need. Tomorrow, we take the tank out and clean it then water tight test one more time to be sure it';s ok. Then, in on the stand and fill slowly.

    Let it mostly fishless cycle after making sure the filters all work (may need some new ones) and repairing the light hood (needs work, may replace if can find a fitting one).

    After 2 weeks, add 2 fish of a cheaper but keepable sort. Wait plenty of
    time to make sure the cycle took, then slowly add as time goes on.

    This is a 70gT (tall) so is made for a fairly large number of smaller fish
    but not as deep so cant handle comfortably any fish that get bigger than 8 inches, with 2-6 inch ones being optimal. The lenght and height of the tank
    is roughly like a 90G tank.
    xxcarol
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Roger Nelson on Sat Apr 12 14:20:08 2008

    anyone here?

    Just us. (-:

    Hehe BTW, had to dive out on the dog discussion in FTSC. You get Doghouse perchance?
    xcarol
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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Apr 12 15:48:23 2008
    Hehe BTW, had to dive out on the dog discussion in FTSC. You get
    Doghouse perchance?

    I'm the moderator there. (-:


    Regards,

    Roger

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Roger Nelson on Sat Apr 12 23:09:15 2008

    Hehe BTW, had to dive out on the dog discussion in FTSC. You get Doghouse perchance?

    I'm the moderator there. (-:

    woof woof. In a good echo, the participants dont know who the moderator is!
    xxcarol
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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Apr 13 04:29:40 2008
    Hehe BTW, had to dive out on the dog discussion in FTSC. You get Doghouse perchance?

    I'm the moderator there. (-:

    woof woof. In a good echo, the participants dont know who the moderator is!

    I do try to keep a low profile. The co-mod is Cindy Haglund. You haven't heard much from her lately because she's in the process of house/apt. hunting in FL.


    Regards,

    Roger

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  • From Andy Ball@1:261/38 to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Apr 17 19:03:26 2008

    Hello Carol,

    CS> anyone here?

    Late, but here! ;-)

    - Andy Ball

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Andy Ball on Sat Apr 19 10:44:17 2008

    CS> anyone here?

    Late, but here! ;-)

    Well, we've setup the big tank and today will go to the local fish store for some parts we need then fill it. Start the initial fishless cycle portion.
    We normally start that way then add 1 or 2 small fish after a week or so to help it along.
    xxcarol
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Apr 26 16:30:21 2008

    Well we did the initial steps to get the 70G tank going. Got some
    water cure stuff and some new gravel. Not quite enough gravel yet
    but wasnt sure how much I would need.

    the rule, on gravel, that i always use is one pound of gravel per gallon of water... i believe this is what is called for with undergravel filters but i use it all the time...

    )\/(ark


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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to mark lewis on Sun Apr 27 07:55:20 2008

    Well we did the initial steps to get the 70G tank going. Got some water cure stuff and some new gravel. Not quite enough gravel yet
    but wasnt sure how much I would need.

    the rule, on gravel, that i always use is one pound of gravel per gallon of water... i believe this is what is called for with undergravel filters but i use it all the time...

    Umm, 70 lbs of gravel? Dont think so!
    xxcarol
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Apr 27 13:07:50 2008

    Well we did the initial steps to get the 70G tank going. Got
    some water cure stuff and some new gravel. Not quite enough
    gravel yet but wasnt sure how much I would need.

    the rule, on gravel, that i always use is one pound of gravel per
    gallon of water... i believe this is what is called for with
    undergravel filters but i use it all the time...

    Umm, 70 lbs of gravel? Dont think so!

    why not? you already have 585 pounds of water... what's another 70 pounds of gravel going to do?

    FWIW: a gallon of water weighs 8.345 pounds...

    back to the substrate/gravel... you should have at least 2 to 2.5 inches of substrate... that's about 10 pounds for each 150 square inches of tank surface...

    )\/(ark


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  • From Marty Blankenship@1:129/305 to Mark Lewis on Sun Apr 27 21:44:01 2008
    |03Quoting message from |11Mark Lewis |03to |11Carol Shenkenberger
    |03on |1127 Apr 08 13:07:50|03.

    back to the substrate/gravel... you should have at least 2 to 2.5 inches of substrate... that's about 10 pounds for each 150 square inches of tank surface...

    Whats substrate? I usually use just gravel, or is substrate for salt water setups?

    ... PCs rule 1001111 1001011

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to mark lewis on Mon Apr 28 18:09:51 2008

    the rule, on gravel, that i always use is one pound of gravel per
    gallon of water... i believe this is what is called for with
    undergravel filters but i use it all the time...

    Umm, 70 lbs of gravel? Dont think so!

    why not? you already have 585 pounds of water... what's another 70 pounds of gravel going to do?

    It's not the weight but the amount. This is a 70gallong yes, but it's the
    Tall version (Havent seen them sold in 20 years). It's 48"x10"deep and
    taller than normal <g>. So you have less surface volume and have to be
    careful about fish load but if you stick to smaller ones, 6" and under, can
    be truely spectacular.

    Unlike most tanks, you really have to pay attention to where a type of fish swims as you can easily end up with completely empty zones.

    The list I posted of prospective fish, involves bottom types, middle types,
    and upper types.

    back to the substrate/gravel... you should have at least 2 to 2.5 inches of substrate... that's about 10 pounds for each 150 square inches of tank surface...

    So for my tank, I want about 32lbs of gravel. I believe I have 25 in there
    but we also have a bottom filter (1 in fact) which we need to provide extra airation.

    The tank is now as cycled as it will get without a small fish load so
    tomorrow, we get a few fish. Just 4-6 1 inch types that will grow to 2-3 inches and selected for hardyness as well as usefulness later in the tank.
    (I object to getting scrub fish then flushing them later).
    xxcarol

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Marty Blankenship on Mon Apr 28 18:23:24 2008

    Whats substrate? I usually use just gravel, or is substrate for salt water setups?

    Gravel in generic is substrate but it comes in several forms and some are
    sands while others are big rocks. I have simple colored gravel (green and
    blue with a smaller bag of 5lbs or so white at the back for contrast).

    Charlotte added several glass marbles. Don added a sunken ship with a hole smaller ones can hide in or swim through, and a gator who chomps his jaws a little (ship and gator are fed with air bubble pumps). I added driftwood and dead coral rock (both of long ago tank use, saved and stored with the tank). We put in a few nice fabric sort of fake plants that look pretty real and
    later will probably add a few real ones in among them.

    xxcarol
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Marty Blankenship on Mon Apr 28 19:10:25 2008

    back to the substrate/gravel... you should have at least 2 to 2.5
    inches of substrate... that's about 10 pounds for each 150 square
    inches of tank surface...

    Whats substrate?

    that stuff you put on the bottom of the tank ;)

    I usually use just gravel, or is substrate for salt water setups?

    nope 8)

    )\/(ark


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  • From Peter Green@1:396/45.14 to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu May 1 18:41:27 2008
    G'day, Carol.

    On 11/04/2008, 5:14:48 PM, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to All:


    anyone here?
    xxcarol
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    Nope. ;^)

    Regards,

    Peter Green (aka-Viper) ICQ; 135397134
    email: <peter.green@net396.fidonet.org>
    <petergreen@videotron.ca>
    <PeterGreen49@hotmail.com>

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Peter Green on Fri May 2 20:20:43 2008

    G'day, Carol.

    On 11/04/2008, 5:14:48 PM, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to All:


    anyone here?
    xxcarol
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    Nope. ;^)

    Oh you are evil! Well, we are starting some fish chat here. What fish might be popular in OZ? For tanks mind you, not eating <g>.
    xxcarol
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