I watch Television using a Digital TV Convertor box.
I remember that back when Analog Television was being broadcast if
the Picture messed up the sound portion could still be heard on
those TV Sets
One of the local Amateurs who owned a TV and Radio Repair Shop
talked about taking courses and buying Test Equipment so He would be
able to service Digital Television Sets when they needed any fixing.
Have You noticed if there any lapses or delays to the transmission
that You are listening to when You're using any of those Digital
Modes wheather during a QSO or You're SWL'ing the Band?
@MSGID: <5A02D5FF.1704.amtradio@capitolcityonline.net>
In a message on Tuesday 11-06-17 Ed Vance said to Daryl Stout:
Hi Ed,
I'm just busting in, not because I have any experience of digital Ham Radio, but I have experience of TV.
I watch Television using a Digital TV Convertor box.
Here called Digibox'es.
I remember that back when Analog Television was being broadcast if
the Picture messed up the sound portion could still be heard on
those TV Sets
That is correct. The same was true with the so called digital channels
via Digiboxes.
Those old Digibox channels are now called analog and are still
available on modern TV sets, along with true digital and HD channels.
In most cases when the digital/HD signal becomes too weak to give a picture, the sound also disappears. In rare cases there may be sound.
One of the local Amateurs who owned a TV and Radio Repair Shop
talked about taking courses and buying Test Equipment so He would be
able to service Digital Television Sets when they needed any fixing.
There's no special test equipment needed, except a signal generator
that can give a digital TV signal, and in case you do service on
antenna distribution nets, a field-strength meter that is compatible
with HD and digital signals.
Have You noticed if there any lapses or delays to the transmission
that You are listening to when You're using any of those Digital
Modes wheather during a QSO or You're SWL'ing the Band?
What I have noticed is that the more compressed a TV-signal is, the
more is the time delayed. Finnish TV hasn't noticed that or corrected
it, but swedish TV has.
The delay is only in the class of seconds but still irritating.
We did also have some "digibox" channels compressed with a MP4 compres- sion, and even there the delay was greater than the uncompressed
digibox channels.
No need to apologize for making a comment, these BBS Echos are the
same as a Amateur Radio ROUNDTABLE on 80 Meter AM. afaik (as far as
I know)
Those old Digibox channels are now called analog and are still
available on modern TV sets, along with true digital and HD channels.
If the Digibox signal are Digital, calling them Analog would sound
strange to me.
In most cases when the digital/HD signal becomes too weak to give a picture, the sound also disappears. In rare cases there may be sound.
This new fangled stuff we just have to get adjusted to, don't we?
There's no special test equipment needed, except a signal generator
that can give a digital TV signal, ....
I didn't know He only needed to get a Digital TV SigGen to work on
the newer gear.
was inside of a TV Set, except for taking some 7 Pin and 9 Pin Tubes
out and taking them somewhere there was a Tube Tester.
The TV Sets I have now only have One Tube in them, the Picture Tube.
Have You noticed if there any lapses or delays to the transmission
that You are listening to when You're using any of those Digital
Modes wheather during a QSO or You're SWL'ing the Band?
What I have noticed is that the more compressed a TV-signal is, the
more is the time delayed. Finnish TV hasn't noticed that or corrected
it, but swedish TV has.
@MSGID: <5A1004D7.1716.amtradio@capitolcityonline.net>^^^^^^
In a message on Friday 11-16-17 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:
This new fangled stuff we just have to get adjusted to, don't we?
Yes I have.
There's no special test equipment needed, except a signal generator
that can give a digital TV signal, ....
I didn't know He only needed to get a Digital TV SigGen to work on
the newer gear.
No one expects you to know it, but your friend should have known.
was inside of a TV Set, except for taking some 7 Pin and 9 Pin Tubes
out and taking them somewhere there was a Tube Tester.
Tube testers were out long before production of tube TV's ceased.
A TV-service shop usually had a stock of new tubes, so it was easier to plug in a new one into the socket of a suspect one.
A mobile service enginer also had a stock of new tubes in his tool box.
The TV Sets I have now only have One Tube in them, the Picture Tube.
I don't have any TV sets with tube's. The monitor I'm using for the BBS
is the only one with a picture tube.
Have You noticed if there any lapses or delays to the transmission
that You are listening to when You're using any of those Digital
Modes wheather during a QSO or You're SWL'ing the Band?
I am not using any digital modes except A1A (CW) on ham radio!
What I have noticed is that the more compressed a TV-signal is, the
more is the time delayed. Finnish TV hasn't noticed that or corrected
it, but swedish TV has.
.. It's the best I can do on short notice.
-- MR/2 2.30
@MSGID: <5A1004D7.1716.amtradio@capitolcityonline.net>-snip-
In a message on Friday 11-16-17 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:
@MSGID: <5A1004D7.1716.amtradio@capitolcityonline.net>
In a message on Friday 11-16-17 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:
^^^^^^
I ain't meaning to nit pick but 11-16-17 was a Thursday, wasn't it?
I didn't know He only needed to get a Digital TV SigGen to work on
the newer gear.
No one expects you to know it, but your friend should have known.
That QSO was many, many years ago and what I wrote about Him was
what I thought I remembered hearing Him say.
^^^^^^^
Tube testers were out long before production of tube TV's ceased.
A TV-service shop usually had a stock of new tubes, so it was easier to plug in a new one into the socket of a suspect one.
I have a few spare Tubes in a box for Amateur Gear and Stereo
Amplifier.
His YF (Wife) (the Disbursing Clerk) into allowing Me to get.
Have You noticed if there any lapses or delays to the transmission
that You are listening to when You're using any of those Digital
Modes wheather during a QSO or You're SWL'ing the Band?
I am not using any digital modes except A1A (CW) on ham radio!
What TX/XCVR are You using for CW?
I've thought about trying to listen on 20 M to see if I could find
someone using Digital Mode on the Ham Radio Bands.
It might only be scratchy noise, instead of Donald Duck sounding
Audio. If anyone reading knows what Freq. on 20M HF that the Digital
Hams are on I'd appreciate knowing, so I could listen either on the
520 or My 2-B RX.
Where I wrote VOX in the Reply I sent You I realized VOX was the
wrong Title for the Jack on the back of the 32S-1.
a Central Electronics 100V TX and a Central Electronics 600L RF
Amplifier.
@MSGID: <5A29D639.1731.amtradio@capitolcityonline.net>
In a message on Thursday 11-21-17 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:
GE Ed,
@MSGID: <5A1004D7.1716.amtradio@capitolcityonline.net>
In a message on Friday 11-16-17 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:
^^^^^^
I ain't meaning to nit pick but 11-16-17 was a Thursday, wasn't it?
YES it was, you're correct and the same error is on the top line of
this message. Nov. 21st 2017 was a Tuesday. Spooky!
Thank you very much for your observation. Now I have to find out where that wrong name-o-day is coming from. Suspicions must be checked.
I did now check everything I can set from the operating system, but there's no way to tell the OS the weekday name, so I'll probably have
to reboot the machine to get at the BIOS settings.
Thanks again for pointing this out.
I have a few spare Tubes in a box for Amateur Gear and Stereo
Amplifier.
So do I even though I don't have any 'tubed' sets anymore.
I've thought about trying to listen on 20 M to see if I could find
someone using Digital Mode on the Ham Radio Bands.
It might only be scratchy noise, instead of Donald Duck sounding
Audio. If anyone reading knows what Freq. on 20M HF that the Digital
Hams are on I'd appreciate knowing, so I could listen either on the
520 or My 2-B RX.
Forget it. To listen to digital voice you need an adapter installed or connected to your receiver.
@MSGID: <5A29D639.1732.amtradio@capitolcityonline.net>GM, It's a day later than I said I'd respond to this and Your next message.
In a message on Friday 24/11-2017 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:
GE Ed,
As you can see, now the day and date correlate, BUT are incorrect.
Your message is dated Nov 23rd, so what is shown is the system date.
More work is needed, but the cause of error wasn't in the BIOS, but in
the QWK program.
Where I wrote VOX in the Reply I sent You I realized VOX was the
wrong Title for the Jack on the back of the 32S-1.
I've never had any Collins gear but our club has a 75A2.
a Central Electronics 100V TX and a Central Electronics 600L RF
Amplifier.
Now I'm on familiar territory. My first SSB transmitter was a homebuilt 'Chinese Copy' of the CE 20 with european tubes. I received some help
from CE to get the Phase-Shift-Network, band-switching unit and
complete assembly manual and chassis layout drawing.
As VFO I used the one that was built into a BC-458 surplus transmitter.
This was the first SSB transmitter on-the-air from Finland 1955 and
1997 from Aland Islands. Also built a CE Side-Band-Slicer w.
Q-multiplier.
Before moving to OH0 in 1997, I completed a SSB transmitter that was contained on a BC-458 chassis and also used the two 1625 PA tubes.
.. Windows Error #6BD3 : System Outclassed! Non-Windows OSBut still a GUI .... ..
11-23-17 09:50 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Ham Radio
I ain't meaning to nit pick but 11-16-17 was a Thursday, wasn't it?
Thank you very much for your observation. Now I have to find out where that wrong name-o-day is coming from. Suspicions must be checked.
Thanks again for pointing this out.
I still have visions of building a RF Amp with two 4-125A but that ROUNDTUIT List keeps getting in the way.
Forget it. To listen to digital voice you need an adapter installed or connected to your receiver.
Thank You, I'll forget about doing it then.
@MSGID: <5A29D639.1732.amtradio@capitolcityonline.net>-snip-
In a message on Friday 24/11-2017 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:
a Central Electronics 100V TX and a Central Electronics 600L RF
Amplifier.
Now I'm on familiar territory. My first SSB transmitter was a homebuilt 'Chinese Copy' of the CE 20 with european tubes. I received some help
from CE to get the Phase-Shift-Network, band-switching unit and
complete assembly manual and chassis layout drawing.
As VFO I used the one that was built into a BC-458 surplus transmitter.
This was the first SSB transmitter on-the-air from Finland 1955 and
1997 from Aland Islands. Also built a CE Side-Band-Slicer w.
Q-multiplier.
Before moving to OH0 in 1997, I completed a SSB transmitter that was contained on a BC-458 chassis and also used the two 1625 PA tubes.
Howdy! Holger aka ... .- -- ,
I started a Full Scan with Windows Defender and didn't know it would
take longer than 5 or 6 Hours to complete.
It took over 15 hours since 6AM yesterday and I checked it just now
and it had finished. WHEW!!!!
As you can see, now the day and date correlate, BUT are incorrect.
More work is needed, but the cause of error wasn't in the BIOS, but
in the QWK program.
I've never had any Collins gear but our club has a 75A2.
That heavy thing (RX) will keep the Operating Desk from floating
away if the Ham Shack got flooded.
Now I'm on familiar territory. My first SSB transmitter was a homebuilt 'Chinese Copy' of the CE 20 with european tubes.
I remember they made a CE 10 and CE 20 back in the late 1950's.
As VFO I used the one that was built into a BC-458 surplus transmitter.
Hope You didn't have to have the whole BC-458 on Your Desk just to
use the VFO in it with the CE 20.
This was the first SSB transmitter on-the-air from Finland 1955 and
1997 from Aland Islands.
You were on SSB when I was a SWL using a Midwest Radio Corp.
Multi-Band RX. That was three years before I earned my Novice
License.
I have a CE GC-1 Gated Compression Amplifier another Ham gave me in
My Shack.
Ah!, the 1625 was a 12V version of the old reliable 807 tube (iirc).
.. Windows Error #6BD3 : System Outclassed! Non-Windows OS
But still a GUI .... ..
11-24-17 09:59 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Ham Radio Digital od
This was the first SSB transmitter on-the-air from Finland 1955 and
1957 from Aland Islands. Also built a CE Side-Band-Slicer w.
Q-multiplier.
Before moving to OH0 in 1957, I completed a SSB transmitter that was contained on a BC-458 chassis and also used the two 1625 PA tubes.
My mind started rolling over and over thinking that I saw
You mention in this post that Your first SSB Station was in Finland.
I just reread the message and saw that Finland ( OH ) is what You
wrote. The name of the song is:
"Hodie! CHRISTUS natus est"
or in English "Rejoice! CHRIST Is Born!"
What was Your Call Sign in 1955 when the SSB Rig came on the Air?
Just wondering............
@MSGID: <5A2D5A43.1738.amtradio@capitolcityonline.net>
In a message on 12-08-17 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:
11-23-17 09:50 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Ham Radio
GE Ed,
It seems to me that you don't download QWK packets very often.
There's a huge difference between 11-23-17 and 12-08-17!
I ain't meaning to nit pick but 11-16-17 was a Thursday, wasn't it?
Thank you very much for your observation. Now I have to find out where that wrong name-o-day is coming from. Suspicions must be checked.
Thanks again for pointing this out.
I still have visions of building a RF Amp with two 4-125A but that ROUNDTUIT List keeps getting in the way.
I don't think you'll ever build that RF-Amp.
It seems to me that you don't download QWK packets very often.
There's a huge difference between 11-23-17 and 12-08-17!
I got Your message in a 12-11-17 packet but hadn't Replied until
12-16-17.
I download packets most days once or twice but don't have time to
read everything in them, so I mostly Lurk around a few echos as I
have time.
I don't think you'll ever build that RF-Amp.
Probably not, all I got so far is a Transformer and Filter Choke for
the Power Supply and two Tube Sockets.
@MSGID: <5A37E613.1745.amtradio@capitolcityonline.net>Howdy! Holger,
In a message on 12-16-17 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:
Hi Ed,
It seems to me that you don't download QWK packets very often.
There's a huge difference between 11-23-17 and 12-08-17!
That's more than three weeks!!!
I got Your message in a 12-11-17 packet but hadn't Replied until
12-16-17.
Yes, that's OK. Only five days.
I download packets most days once or twice but don't have time to
read everything in them, so I mostly Lurk around a few echos as I
have time.
Appparently you download too many echoes.
I don't think you'll ever build that RF-Amp.
Probably not, all I got so far is a Transformer and Filter Choke for
the Power Supply and two Tube Sockets.
I do also have modulation and driver transformers for a 2x807 modulator that I intended to build in 1954-1955, but they became useless when SSB proved to be so effective that no AM was needed.
I was however named Donald Duck by hams that couldn't read SSB, hi.
This Morning I got Your 12-17-17 message and started writing my
Reply to it at around 11:40 A.M. .
Boy! those ROUNDTUITS are troublesome, I ain't wired for STEREO and
can only do one thing at a time. .... ..
read everything in them, so I mostly Lurk around a few echos as I
have time.
His BBS has messages from other Networks now, and since I am still
trying to become a "mister know it all", I Joined many of the Echoes
in those Networks.
What Tube(s) were You going to have in the Final RF Amplifer to
Modulate them with the Push Pull 807 Modulator when the project was finished? 6146('s), 813('s)?
It IS very hard even if I know how another Hams voice sounds to tune
a SSB signal to actually sound like the person, for Me at least it
is.
(I know You Know what RIT is, but I explained it in case someone
didn't).
Bruce showed me how He mounted a metal plate on the bottom of His
TS-520.
He had removed the Pin from a large Hinge and bolted one half of the
Hinge to the plate.
He used a Socket Wrench to install His TS-520 when He wanted to go
Mobile with it.
I used to Sign In to the Kentucky CW Traffic Net, long ago........,
73 es Merry CHRISTmas de Ed W9ODR K
@MSGID: <5A3A34F0.1747.amtradio@capitolcityonline.net>-snip-
In a message on 12-18-17 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:
What Tube(s) were You going to have in the Final RF Amplifer to
Modulate them with the Push Pull 807 Modulator when the project was finished? 6146('s), 813('s)?
The 4-65 I already had in the PA.
Bruce showed me how He mounted a metal plate on the bottom of His
TS-520.
He had removed the Pin from a large Hinge and bolted one half of the
Hinge to the plate.
When I started my radio/Tv service outfit I didn't have much time to
build my gear so I invested in a Drake TR-3 and a mobile bracket plus a
DC power suply so I could have the rig in the car (Mini) also.
He used a Socket Wrench to install His TS-520 when He wanted to go
Mobile with it.
I just twisted a couple of wing nuts to fasten the TCVR into the car.
I used to Sign In to the Kentucky CW Traffic Net, long ago........,
I still love CW and listen right now to the 14 MHz CW portion while I'm writing this.
.. If Jesus was Jewish, why does he have a Mexican name?
What Tube(s) were You going to have in the Final RF Amplifer to
Modulate them with the Push Pull 807 Modulator when the project was finished? 6146('s), 813('s)?
I think I chatted with You about the 4-65 tubes I seen in a UHF rig
They were used in the Modulator section (I think it was a
I just twisted a couple of wing nuts to fasten the TCVR into the car.
I'm not sure but I'd think that here in the U.S. a couple of wing
nuts would make it a easy job for a thief to steal that TR-3.
Is thievery a problem where You live like it is in the U.S.?
Even though I haven't keyed a rig for years, I love 20M CW too.
.. If Jesus was Jewish, why does he have a Mexican name?
Was Mexico a Country when Jesus walked our Earth?
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