• Re: Gendarmes

    From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Joe Delahaye on Sat Sep 24 09:42:00 2016
    In a message on Saturday 09-23-16 Joe Delahaye said to Holger Granholm:

    Subject was: Re: Wannbe HAM

    Hi Joe,

    Gendarmes?

    French Police

    I'd turn it around and say, Police in french.
    Or, french for police.

    Is it really though? I notice that they show Police on their
    vehicles and jackets.

    Yes, but when they call for reinforcement, the gendarmes come to help.
    So the gendarmes are probably military polices, or just soldiers.


    CU L8ER, Sam, OH0NC

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Holger Granholm on Sun Sep 25 11:16:03 2016
    Re: Re: Gendarmes
    By: Holger Granholm to Joe Delahaye on Sat Sep 24 2016 09:42:00

    I'd turn it around and say, Police in french.
    Or, french for police.

    Is it really though? I notice that they show Police on their
    vehicles and jackets.

    Yes, but when they call for reinforcement, the gendarmes come to help.
    So the gendarmes are probably military polices, or just soldiers.


    Or perhaps the State Police. I believe there is a Gendarmerie (sp) in France. Perhaps it is something like the British Bobby?
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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Joe Delahaye on Mon Sep 26 08:57:00 2016
    In a message on Monday 09-25-16 Joe Delahaye said to Holger Granholm:

    Hi Joe,

    So the gendarmes are probably military polices, or just soldiers.

    Or perhaps the State Police. I believe there is a Gendarmerie (sp)
    in France. Perhaps it is something like the British Bobby?

    I have always thought that an english Bobby is a patrolling police,
    creating a sense of safety in a neighbourhood, and helping citizens and tourists.

    Since nobody frenchspeaking person appears here, I think we will have to
    leave the question of what a french gendarm is or does, open.


    73 de Sam, OH0NC

    aka Holger

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Holger Granholm on Tue Sep 27 10:50:06 2016

    26 Sep 16 08:57, you wrote to Joe Delahaye:

    So the gendarmes are probably military polices, or just soldiers.

    Or perhaps the State Police. I believe there is a Gendarmerie (sp)
    in France. Perhaps it is something like the British Bobby?

    I have always thought that an english Bobby is a patrolling police, creating a sense of safety in a neighbourhood, and helping citizens
    and tourists.

    Since nobody frenchspeaking person appears here, I think we will have
    to leave the question of what a french gendarm is or does, open.

    since i'm the one that tossed the term out there, please allow me to post some clarification of the term...


    gen·darme
    'ZHändärm/
    noun
    noun: gendarme; plural noun: gendarmes

    1. an armed police officer in France and other French-speaking countries.
    2. a member of a body of soldiers especially in France serving as an armed police force for the maintenance of public order
    3. police officer
    4. a rock pinnacle on a mountain, occupying and blocking an arête.

    Origin
    mid 16th century (originally denoting a mounted officer in the French army): French, from gens d'armes 'men of arms.' Sense 1 dates from the late 18th century. back-formation from gensdarmes, plural of gent d'armes, literally, armed people.

    Synonyms
    bobby [British], bull [slang], constable


    =====


    A gendarmerie or gendarmery is a military component with jurisdiction in civil law enforcement. The term "gendarmerie" is derived from the medieval French expression gens d'armees, which translates to "armed men".[1] In France and most Francophone nations, the gendarmerie is the branch of the armed forces responsible for internal security during wartime.[1] This concept was introduced to several other Western European countries during the Napoleonic conquests.[2] In the mid twentieth century, a number of former French mandates or colonial possessions such as Syria and the Republic of the Congo adopted a gendarmerie after independence.[3][4]

    The growth and expansion of gendarmerie units worldwide has been linked to an increasing reluctance by some governments to use military units typically entrusted with external defense for combating internal threats.[1] A somewhat related phenomenon has been the formation of paramilitary units which fall under the authority of civilian police agencies. Since these are not strictly military forces, however, they are not considered gendarmerie.[5]

    Some of the more prominent modern gendarmerie organizations include the French National Gendarmerie, Italian Carabinieri, and Spanish Civil Guard.[5]


    [1] Lioe, Kim Eduard. Armed Forces in Law Enforcement Operations? - The German and European Perspective (1989 ed.). Springer-Verlag Berlin Heidelberg. pp. 52-57. ISBN 978-3-642-15433-1.
    [2] Emsley, Clive. Gendarmes and the State in Nineteenth-Century Europe (1999 ed.). Oxford University Press. pp. 52-57. ISBN 978-0198207986.
    [3] Deep, Daniel (2012). Occupying Syria Under the French Mandate: Insurgency, Space and State Formation. Cambridge University Press. p. 204. ISBN 978-1-107-00006-3.
    [4] Clark, John; Decalo, Samuel (2012). Historical Dictionary of Republic of the Congo. Lanham: Scarecrow Press. pp. 44-49. ISBN 978-0-8108-7989-8.
    [5] Kumar, Kuldeep. Police and Counterinsurgency: The Untold Story of Tripura's
    COIN Campaign (2016 ed.). SAGE Publications India. pp. 90-94. ISBN 978-9351507475.


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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Holger Granholm on Tue Sep 27 10:49:28 2016
    Re: Re: Gendarmes
    By: Holger Granholm to Joe Delahaye on Mon Sep 26 2016 08:57:00

    So the gendarmes are probably military polices, or just soldiers.

    Or perhaps the State Police. I believe there is a Gendarmerie (sp)
    in France. Perhaps it is something like the British Bobby?

    I have always thought that an english Bobby is a patrolling police, creating a sense of safety in a neighbourhood, and helping citizens and tourists.

    Yes, wrong comparison. The UK does have a state police, but it is not the the English Bobby. My mind wont wrap around the name of that organization right now though.


    Since nobody frenchspeaking person appears here, I think we will have to leave the question of what a french gendarm is or does, open.

    True enough
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  • From Bob Seaborn@1:140/12 to Joe Delahaye on Wed Sep 28 00:03:00 2016
    Re: Re: Gendarmes
    By: Holger Granholm to Joe Delahaye on Mon Sep 26 2016 08:57:00

    So the gendarmes are probably military polices, or just soldiers.

    Or perhaps the State Police. I believe there is a Gendarmerie (sp)
    in France. Perhaps it is something like the British Bobby?

    I have always thought that an english Bobby is a patrolling police,
    creating a sense of safety in a neighbourhood, and helping citizens and
    tourists.

    Yes, wrong comparison. The UK does have a state police, but it is not
    the the
    English Bobby. My mind wont wrap around the name of that organization
    right
    now though.


    MI5




    Since nobody frenchspeaking person appears here, I think we will have
    to
    leave the question of what a french gendarm is or does, open.

    True enough
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Bob Seaborn on Wed Sep 28 13:16:00 2016
    Re: Gendarmes
    By: Bob Seaborn to Joe Delahaye on Wed Sep 28 2016 00:03:00

    Yes, wrong comparison. The UK does have a state police, but it is not
    the the
    English Bobby. My mind wont wrap around the name of that organization
    right
    now though.


    MI5

    I think that is the spy agency Bob. I still cant think of it. Just came to me. Scotland Yard.
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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Joe Delahaye on Wed Sep 28 09:48:00 2016
    In a message on Wednesday 09-27-16 Joe Delahaye said to Holger Granholm:

    GM Joe

    I have always thought that an english Bobby is a patrolling police, creating a sense of safety in a neighbourhood, and helping citizens
    and tourists.

    Yes, wrong comparison. The UK does have a state police, but it is
    not the the English Bobby. My mind wont wrap around the name of
    that organization right now though.

    Yeah, I know which organisation you refer to, the name doesn't ring a
    bell right now :o(

    The Bobbies are what is generally shown on the tele, directing tourists
    and traffic.


    CU L8ER,

    Holger

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Mark Lewis on Wed Sep 28 09:48:00 2016
    In a message on Wednesday 09-27-16 mark lewis said to Holger Granholm:

    Good morning Mark,

    So the gendarmes are probably military polices, or just soldiers.

    since i'm the one that tossed the term out there, please allow me to
    post some clarification of the term...


    gen·darme
    'ZHändärm/
    noun
    noun: gendarme; plural noun: gendarmes

    1. an armed police officer in France and other French-speaking
    countries.
    2. a member of a body of soldiers especially in France serving
    as an armed police force for the maintenance of public order
    3. police officer
    4. a rock pinnacle on a mountain, occupying and blocking an
    arête.

    =====

    Thanks for the explanation Mark. Now everybody reading this echo, knows
    what a gendarme is.


    Have a nice day,

    Holger

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