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On 02-08-20 22:25, August Abolins <=-
spoke to Janis Kracht about Mr T <=-

..I could be wrong, but I believe that Mr. Trump
is a vindictive individual.

vin·dic·tive
/ven'diktiv/

adjective

having or showing a strong or unreasoning desire for revenge.

What "revenge" has he commited?

I would say that he has very good reason to be angry, but to label him vindictive would not be the right word. ;)

It is precisely the right word. What else would you call him from
removing two people from their official duties because they responded to
a lawful supenoa from Congress and testifying the truth. He not only
removed them, he essentially perp walked one of them out of the
Whitehouse, along with his brother who had done nothing at all except
share the same last name.

Not only that he resorts to making up derogatory names for anyone who
has the backbone to not agree with him.

Dale Shipp
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Hello Dale,

..I could be wrong, but I believe that Mr. Trump
is a vindictive individual.

vin.dic.tive
/ven'diktiv/

adjective

having or showing a strong or unreasoning desire for revenge.

What "revenge" has he commited?

I would say that he has very good reason to be angry, but to label him >AA>vindictive would not be the right word. ;)

It is precisely the right word. What else would you call him from
removing two people from their official duties because they responded to
a lawful supenoa from Congress and testifying the truth.

Vindictive narcissist.

https://tinyurl.com/vh9lmjn


While this article is not about any specific person, such
as Donald J. Trump, it does describe vindictive narcissist
disorder and how to deal with such people.

He not only removed them, he essentially perp walked one of them out of the
Whitehouse, along with his brother who had done nothing at all except share the same last name.

Once a vindictive narcissist has chosen a target, it is bombs away!
The narcissist cannot help being himself, and keeps doing what he
has always done best! "You're fired!" being his two favorite words!

Not only that he resorts to making up derogatory names for anyone who has
the backbone to not agree with him.

You have not made yourself a big enough target. Gotta step up
to the plate, like Madonna, and ...

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On 08/02/2020 6:21 p.m., Dale Shipp : August Abolins wrote:

I would say that he has very good reason to be angry, but to
label him vindictive would not be the right word.

It is precisely the right word. What else would you call him from
removing two people from their official duties because they
responded to a lawful supenoa from Congress and testifying the
truth.

Oh, that! ;)

I'd say that he is just exercising his prerogative.

Anyone in his position would get rid of people that don't see eye to
eye. By testifying (whether true or not), those people cut their own
throats ahead of time. If they had any integrity, they should have
resigned a long time ago. But the jobs are probably very cushy and the
money is probably very good.

He not only removed them, he essentially perp walked one
of them out of the Whitehouse, along with his brother who had
done nothing at all except share the same last name.

We'll never know the "full" story. We only get the version that the
media wants to feed the public.

Not only that he resorts to making up derogatory names for anyone
who has the backbone to not agree with him.

They are *all* grade school. ;) Off camera, they probably all resort
to name-calling. Mr T *does* seem to lack suave. But he is not a
politician. He does *not* have the typical social/diplomatic grooming
of a politician.


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On 02-09-20 20:49, August Abolins <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Mr T <=-

I'd say that he is just exercising his prerogative.

Anyone in his position would get rid of people that don't see eye to
eye. By testifying (whether true or not), those people cut their own throats ahead of time.

By your reasoning, they should have defied the lawful subpoena and
refused to testify. Sorry, but the law applies to them the same as
anyone else.

If they had any integrity, they should have
resigned a long time ago. But the jobs are probably very cushy and the money is probably very good.

The job is not cushy, and the pay for LTC Vindman is the same whether he
is serving his country on the National Security Counsel or in Iraq or at
the War College.

He not only removed them, he essentially perp walked one
of them out of the Whitehouse, along with his brother who had
done nothing at all except share the same last name.

We'll never know the "full" story. We only get the version that the
media wants to feed the public.

What other story would you want to spin?

Not only that he resorts to making up derogatory names for anyone
who has the backbone to not agree with him.

They are *all* grade school. ;) Off camera, they probably all resort
to name-calling. Mr T *does* seem to lack suave. But he is not a politician. He does *not* have the typical social/diplomatic grooming
of a politician.

What you should have said is that he does not have the typical human
decency that most Americans have. In his mind, anyone who dares to
disagree with him is scum of the earth, and in fact he denies ever
really knowing them as he trashes them vindictively for their betrayal.
It is not betrayal to tell the truth, especially under oath.

Dale Shipp
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Not only that he resorts to making up derogatory names for anyone who
has the backbone to not agree with him.

Thanks for helping us to understand the psychology of Democrats; they have to act rebellious when dealing with Trump, at all costs, in order to make themselves appear to have backbone.

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Hello August,

I would say that he has very good reason to be angry, but to
label him vindictive would not be the right word.

It is precisely the right word. What else would you call him from >DS>removing two people from their official duties because they
responded to a lawful supenoa from Congress and testifying the
truth.

Oh, that! ;)

I'd say that he is just exercising his prerogative.

Prerogative? To fire anyone he wants, even without due
cause or reason? People who have been compelled to testify
due to having been subpoenaed would be violating the law by
refusing to testify. Lying to Congress while under oath is
also violating the law. None of those who were subpoenaed
and testified violated the law. So why were they fired?

Anyone in his position would get rid of people that don't see eye to
eye. By testifying (whether true or not), those people cut their own
throats ahead of time. If they had any integrity, they should have
resigned a long time ago. But the jobs are probably very cushy and the
money is probably very good.

Vindman's brother was not subpoenaed. He was never compelled
to testify. And never volunteered to testify. He just did his
job, never testifying at all. Why was he fired?

He not only removed them, he essentially perp walked one
of them out of the Whitehouse, along with his brother who had
done nothing at all except share the same last name.

We'll never know the "full" story.

We know the president is a pathological liar.
We know he has blocked the testimony of several
people in his administration who were involved
in the Ukraine scandal from testifying. We know
the president and his men are involved in a cover
up, keeping the facts from being brought to light.
We know the president is a crook, along with many
others in his administration.

How many lies does a president have to tell before
he/she is removed from office? Apparently this president
can do whatever he wants, including shooting someone in
cold blood on 5th Avenue, and get away with it.

We only get the version that the media wants to feed the public.

We get the version that Trump wants to feed the public.

Not only that he resorts to making up derogatory names for anyone
who has the backbone to not agree with him.

They are *all* grade school. ;) Off camera, they probably all resort
to name-calling. Mr T *does* seem to lack suave. But he is not a >politician. He does *not* have the typical social/diplomatic grooming
of a politician.

The Orange One *is* a politician, having engaged in one election.
With help from Russia. Which makes him an illegitimate president.

--Lee

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On 02-09-20, DALE SHIPP said to AUGUST ABOLINS:

* Reply to msg originally in Fidogazette

On 02-08-20 22:25, August Abolins <=-
spoke to Janis Kracht about Mr T <=-

..I could be wrong, but I believe that Mr. Trump
is a vindictive individual.

Firstly.....Janet Kracht is a republican hater from years back, and went off the rails when her idol Hillary was defeated in 2016.


(BTW....since this was cross-posted from Kracht's echo, it clears the way for `people' to post on this subject in *her* echo! ....can I contain myself!)

vin╖dic╖tive
/ven'diktiv/

adjective

having or showing a strong or unreasoning desire for revenge.

What "revenge" has he commited?

I would say that he has very good reason to be angry, but to label him vindictive would not be the right word. ;)

Trump is in the process of digging out and removing the individuals of the `deep state'.


That is....those `unelected' individuals who think `they' know better than the president.

It is precisely the right word. What else would you call him from DS>removing two people from their official duties because they responded to DS>a lawful supenoa from Congress and testifying the truth.

The fact is the one in uniform went into a snit because Trump didn't follow what they considered `the right talking points.


What the second brother had to do with it I don't know. But he was probably in league with the whole ting.

They were removed because they revealed themselves to be part of the attempted `coup' against the duly elected president!


And make no mistake....this was an attempted `coup'! True it wasn't along the lines of a political `coup' in a place like, say...Romania....or Russia...
but it was an attempted `coup' none the less.



DS<He not only

removed them, he essentially perp walked one of them out of the DS>Whitehouse, along with his brother who had done nothing at all except DS>share the same last name.

A little insight here.....


I remember an attack one night in Vietnam where our Battalion Commander came out to the parimeter gun tower (his command post in such times).


After things died down we spent a couple of hours pre-dawn just conversing
with him.


And I can tell you the asshole Trump had perp-walked out of the White House couldn't be a pimple on a Lt. Colonel's ass!

Not only that he resorts to making up derogatory names for anyone who
has the backbone to not agree with him.

He doesn't have any more use for dog-dirt back-stabbers than any other republican has. And he treats them just like the back-stabbing pieces of pig shit they are!


Did you see Pelosi react to Trump's choice for acting intelligence head? Gotta love it!



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On 02-22-20 18:12, Tim Richardson <=-
spoke to August Abolins about Re: Mr T <=-

Firstly.....Janet Kracht is a republican hater from years back, and
went off the rails when her idol Hillary was defeated in 2016.

What made you think that Hillary was her idol? Do you even know who she
voted for in the Presidental election?

They were removed because they revealed themselves to be part of the attempted `coup' against the duly elected president!

They were removed because they spoke the truth and Trump cannot stand
the truth.

Dale Shipp
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Hello Tim,

* Reply to msg originally in Fidogazette

On 02-08-20 22:25, August Abolins <=-
spoke to Janis Kracht about Mr T <=-

..I could be wrong, but I believe that Mr. Trump
is a vindictive individual.

Firstly.....Janet Kracht is a republican hater from years back, and went off
the rails when her idol Hillary was defeated in 2016.

She was a Bernie gal in 2016.

(BTW....since this was cross-posted from Kracht's echo, it clears the way
for `people' to post on this subject in *her* echo! ....
can I contain myself!)

I don't see why not. It's a public echo, available to all
to post on whatever subject they wish.

--Lee

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They were removed because they spoke the truth and Trump cannot stand
the truth.

So says the group who still think that Hilary lost because of Russian interference.


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TIM RICHARDSON wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS <=-

That is....those `unelected' individuals who think `they' know better
than the president.

I recently read a good book that made a strong case that we effectively have 4 branches of gov't:
1. Executive
2. Legislative
3. Judicial
4. Bureaucracy

Remember Nervious Nancy with the "You have to pass the bill to find out what's in it."?
What they are doing is passing a bill that says "Gov't agency X has the power to fix <this problem>". So the bill doesn't actually do anything bug confer power on a gov't agency so that they can fix <this problem> and have the force of law behind them.

The people in gov't agencies are unelected and, for the most part, fire proof. The most likely reason for them leaving their job: dieing (from mostly natural causes).

The Bureaucracy needs to be fixed. Make them easier to fire. Do not permit Congress to cede power to them. If Congress doen't know how to fix a problem, they can ask the gov't agency to draft something up - but Congress needs to pass the solution and not pass the buck to an unelected, unaccoutable group of people.


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On 02-23-20, DALE SHIPP said to TIM RICHARDSON:

They were removed because they revealed themselves to be part of the attempted `coup' against the duly elected president!

They were removed because they spoke the truth and Trump cannot stand
the truth.

They were removed because they were traitorous little back-stabbing pieces of dog-dirt.



"Only libtard discussions are allowed here." .....Janis Kracht



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