Hello, Holger.

You wrote : In my oldest laptop (T23), Avira is installed, and it disables
autorun.

Why not go to the BIOS and enable write protection ?

Are we alone in this world ?

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In a message on Sunday 03-20-16 Jean Parrot said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Jean,

You wrote : In my oldest laptop (T23), Avira is installed, and it disables autorun.

Why not go to the BIOS and enable write protection ?

Thanks for the hint. Actually, it never came into my mind that THAT
would work against autorun. In my mind I have played with the thought
that I may find a panel with settings, and to disable the autorun
setting.

OTOH, that machine is mostly used to transfer files (bulletins), from
USB sticks to diskettes, because it has the plug-in diskette drive.

I'm still fighting Thunderbird. I want it to get the new messages
immeadetely to my HD, to be read/edited (bulletins), offline.

As it now seems to function, it seems to wait for me to save those
messages while still online.

I have sent e-mails to @blueprintsoftware.com, that are the authors of
the PMMailWin mail program, and tried to connect to their site, without success.

I certainly would want somebody reading this, to alert me how to connect
to that company, or at least give me a hint of where I could get a more up-to-date version.

The PMMailWin2000 I have installed needs NTVDM as per a note at the installation process, but refuses to connect to my mail server, at least
when running under Win10.

I have a "Dummy file for NTVDM" in the autoexec.bat - but that's all I
know about NTVDM.

OTOH, I don't know how use this NTVDM when starting the program, and
neither did the guy at the ISP, so he took the easy way out to install Thunderbird. I didn't tell him to install it on E:\ , so it now resides
on C:\mozilla\thunderbird.

Are we alone in this world ?

I think that's up to ourselves. The message activity is certainly low.
I seem to be occupied for at least five years after my death ;o).


CU L8ER, Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

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20 Mar 16 10:57, you wrote to Jean Parrot:

Thanks for the hint. Actually, it never came into my mind that THAT
would work against autorun. In my mind I have played with the thought
that I may find a panel with settings, and to disable the autorun
setting.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-security/how-do-i-disable-autorun-windows-7/7ba51974-c009-44ad-9067-f3968744175b?auth=1

OR one of these two...

http://tinyurl.com/zzcctrp
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zzcctrp

I'm still fighting Thunderbird. I want it to get the new messages immeadetely to my HD, to be read/edited (bulletins), offline.

As it now seems to function, it seems to wait for me to save those messages while still online.

trying to use thunderbird for reading newsgroups in offline mode is going to be
a real PITA...

at least each group has to be set to offline mode... you do that by clicking on
the group's name after you have subscribed to it... in the properties, you select the group to be read offline... then there are a couple of ways to tell t-bird to get the messages in the groups... one is to use the online/offline button in the bottom left corner of the t-bird window... when you click it to go offline, it will then download all the messages... there's another way in the menu but i don't remember it...

it is just so much easier to subscribe to the groups and read the messages as they are pulled down without having to play with the online/offline mess... especially if you have an "always on" connection (eg: cable or dsl) anyway...

)\/(ark

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I'm still fighting Thunderbird. I want it to get the new messages HG>immeadetely to my HD, to be read/edited (bulletins), offline.

As it now seems to function, it seems to wait for me to save those HG>messages while still online.

aka Holger

Thae you gone into "TOOLS" - "ACCOUNT SETTINGS" and in the middle of
that page put a check mark next to the "Automaticly Download New
Messages" line ???
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In a message on Wednesday 03-22-16 mark lewis said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Mark,

20 Mar 16 10:57, you wrote to Jean Parrot:

Thanks for the hint. Actually, it never came into my mind that THAT
would work against autorun. In my mind I have played with the thought
that I may find a panel with settings, and to disable the autorun
setting.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-security/how-do-i-di
sable-autorun-windows-7/7ba51974-c009-44ad-9067-f3968744175b?auth=1

OR one of these two...

http://tinyurl.com/zzcctrp
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zzcctrp

Actually, I don't want to disable autorun, on the contrary, I want to
disable the AVG's control of it. IOW, I want to decide when/if I want
the autorun to work.

I know how I can disable the control of autorun in Windows, but not how
to do it in AVG.

As it now seems to function, it seems to wait for me to save those messages while still online.

Thunderbird, that is.

trying to use thunderbird for reading newsgroups in offline mode is
going to be a real PITA...

I do not want to read newsgroups offline, I want to get the swedish and
finnish bulletins to the INBOX immeadetely when I ask "Get mail", not to
have to save them first from the list that presents them.

there are a couple of ways to tell t-bird to get the messages in the groups... one is to use the online/offline button in the bottom left
corner of the t-bird window... when you click it to go offline, it
will then download all the messages...

Hmm, I don't want to click anything extra to get the bulletins (msgs) to
my HD for reading/editing/replying. That is the way the PMMail program
for OS/2 worked as long as I was able to use the POTS connection with my
ISP.

That is the way I want to have it, but the PMMailWin program wasn't able
to connect to my ISP via my laptops "Mobile Internet". Neither was the
guru at my ISP able to get it working, so he installed Thunderbird.

it is just so much easier to subscribe to the groups and read the
messages as they are pulled down without having to play with the online/offline mess... especially if you have an "always on"
connection (eg: cable or dsl) anyway...

Of course I have subscribed to the bulletins, they wouldn't come here
to my account otherwise, but I have not used T-Bird to subscribe to them

I have saved your message for later reading, to see if I have something
to learn from it.


Have a nice day,

Holger

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In a message on Thursday 03-23-16 Tom Walker said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Tom,

Long time no read, I'm really glad to read you again.

I'm still fighting Thunderbird. I want it to get the new messages HG>immeadetely to my HD, to be read/edited (bulletins), offline.

As it now seems to function, it seems to wait for me to save those HG>messages while still online.

Thae you gone into "TOOLS" - "ACCOUNT SETTINGS" and in the middle of
that page put a check mark next to the "Automaticly Download New
Messages" line ???

Thanks for the advice. I'll do that next time I start up TB.

BTW, I really miss ZoneAlarm that works so nicely in my XPp laptops,
but isn't available for Win10 anymore. Do you know of a replacement?

AVG is installed in both Win10 machines I have, one stationary and a
laptop. The laptop was a XMAS gift from my eldest GS and the stationary
an impulse buy, because I couldn't resist the free Win10 upgrade, hi.

But I hate that big AVG splash screen that comes up all too often.


73 de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

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In a message on Thursday 03-23-16 Holger Granholm said to mark lewis:

Howdy Mark,

there are a couple of ways to tell t-bird to get the messages in the groups... one is to use the online/offline button in the bottom left
corner of the t-bird window... when you click it to go offline, it
will then download all the messages...

BTW, I didn't know about that "button". I only saw it as an indicator of
being online, ie. connected to the ISP.

Thanks for the hint. It's much easier to press that "button", than to
have to go to the settings menu to do the same thing.


Best regards,

Holger

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In a message on Friday 03-24-16 Holger Granholm said to Tom Walker:

GE Tom,

As it now seems to function, it seems to wait for me to save those HG>messages while still online.

Thae you gone into "TOOLS" - "ACCOUNT SETTINGS" and in the middle of
that page put a check mark next to the "Automaticly Download New
Messages" line ???

I went there, but didn't find that setting anywhere in the "Tools" menu.
The version I have is 38.6.0 and may be newer than the one you have.

However, it seemed to work OK today.

I rember Jean complaining that he couldn't see the senders name, I think
it was, but in the version I have, I see that and most of what I need.

Also I did learn from the author of the swedish ham bulletin, that the
program sending out the bulletin doesn't differentiate between the
recipients of the .pdf and text versions, but both go out to all.

It's up to me to see the difference between them. That was a bit odd at
first, since both bulletins show a text that looks to be a sign-off, but
in the bulletin I received today, he had added "text version" to the
"sign-off" text, so now I can see the difference at once.

Of course there is also a "paper-clip" icon for any message that contains
an attached file.

BTW, I really miss ZoneAlarm that works so nicely in my XPp laptops,
but isn't available for Win10 anymore. Do you know of a replacement?

Maybe AVG does have the same functions that ZoneAlarm does, but so far
I haven't seen it showing a message, that informs me that an internal
program, Adobe, Avira or ZA, wants to connect to a site for upgrading,
as ZoneAlarm does. I don't mind the small message from Avira that my
version is in need of an upgrade, I know it.

But I hate that big AVG splash screen that comes up all too often.

AFAIK, you are very good at searching for things on the net.

Can you possibly find out what has happened "blueprintsoftwareworks.com"
that are/were the authors of the mail programs PMMail and PMMailWin.

I haven't succeded in contacting them by mail nor their www address.


CU L8ER,

Holger

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In a message on Thursday 03-23-16 Tom Walker said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Tom,

Long time no read, I'm really glad to read you again.

I'm still fighting Thunderbird. I want it to get the new messages HG>HG>immeadetely to my HD, to be read/edited (bulletins), offline.

As it now seems to function, it seems to wait for me to save those HG>HG>messages while still online.

Thae you gone into "TOOLS" - "ACCOUNT SETTINGS" and in the middle of HG>TW> that page put a check mark next to the "Automaticly Download New
Messages" line ???

Thanks for the advice. I'll do that next time I start up TB.

BTW, I really miss ZoneAlarm that works so nicely in my XPp laptops,
but isn't available for Win10 anymore. Do you know of a replacement?

I was a ZoneAlarm lover too.
I am now using the Free COMODO firewall. give it a try

73 de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

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In a message on Friday 03-24-16 Holger Granholm said to Tom Walker:

GE Tom,

As it now seems to function, it seems to wait for me to save those HG>HG>messages while still online.

Thae you gone into "TOOLS" - "ACCOUNT SETTINGS" and in the middle of HG>TW> that page put a check mark next to the "Automaticly Download New
Messages" line ???

I went there, but didn't find that setting anywhere in the "Tools" menu. HG>The version I have is 38.6.0 and may be newer than the one you have.

I also am using 38.6.0
Sorry left out a step. On the account setting list click on Server
Setting and it is on that page.

CU L8ER,

Holger

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In a message on Sunday 04-02-16 Tom Walker said to Holger Granholm:

GM Tom, tnx for your reply,

As it now seems to function, it seems to wait for me to save those HG>HG>messages while still online.

Thae you gone into "TOOLS" - "ACCOUNT SETTINGS" and in the middle of HG>TW> that page put a check mark next to the "Automaticly Download New
Messages" line ???

I went into Tools and chose Account settings, but didn't find that "Automatically Download New messages" anywhere.

There is however another way that Mark Lewis taught me. Down in the left
corner there is an icon telling you about connecting to my host, mail
server and other things.

Clicking on that icon gives me a choice of downloading new messages
before going off-line, even if I have already clicked on "Get messages".

You see, with this Mobile Internet, I'm not constantly on-line.

BTW, I really miss ZoneAlarm that works so nicely in my XPp laptops,

I was a ZoneAlarm lover too.
I am now using the Free COMODO firewall. give it a try

OK, tnx for the hint, I'll find it. Dunno if it's necessary when running
AVG, but the small messages that ZA gave when some program wanted to
connect to their parent company, for upgrades or whatever was comforting.


CU SN AGN de Sam OH0NC,

aka Holger

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03 Apr 16 09:37, you wrote to Tom Walker:

As it now seems to function, it seems to wait for me to save those
messages while still online.

Thae you gone into "TOOLS" - "ACCOUNT SETTINGS" and in the middle of
that page put a check mark next to the "Automaticly Download New
Messages" line ???

I went into Tools and chose Account settings, but didn't find that "Automatically Download New messages" anywhere.

when you go into the account settings, there's like 7 or 8 different pages of settings... you access each one from the menu on the left... the setting you are looking for is in the server settings section of your account settings... it is a checkbox...

There is however another way that Mark Lewis taught me. Down in the
left corner there is an icon telling you about connecting to my host,
mail server and other things.

Clicking on that icon gives me a choice of downloading new messages
before going off-line, even if I have already clicked on "Get
messages".

i'm guessing that's working for you?

You see, with this Mobile Internet, I'm not constantly on-line.

mobile internet?? i thought that was for cell phones and that one would have DSL or cable for their fixed facilities...

)\/(ark

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In a message on Tuesday 04-04-16 mark lewis said to Holger Granholm:

Good morning Mark,

I went into Tools and chose Account settings, but didn't find that "Automatically Download New messages" anywhere.

when you go into the account settings, there's like 7 or 8 different
pages of settings... you access each one from the menu on the
left... the setting you are looking for is in the server settings
section of your account settings... it is a checkbox...

Yes I know, I did that yesterday.

From the settings menu at the right edge I chose (among others),
Account Settings - Server Settings and checked the boxes for

"[] Check for new messages at Startup" and
"[] Check for new messages every [] min"

They were both ticked, so I just set a new value for the minutes.

Down in the left corner there is an icon telling you about
connecting to my host, mail server and other things.

Clicking on that icon gives me a choice of downloading new messages
before going off-line, even if I have already clicked on "Get
messages".

i'm guessing that's working for you?

Well, sort of. I've never seen it disconnecting from my host, and never
seen any new messages downloaded, because I did already click on
"Get messages" and got what was in store.

You see, with this Mobile Internet, I'm not constantly on-line.

mobile internet?? i thought that was for cell phones and that one
would have DSL or cable for their fixed facilities...

Oh no, here it works for cell phones as well as laptops and pads.

I get only one invoice for all those activities, and it's also very much cheaper than a cable connection, and another invoice for my two copper
lines to the BBS and voice telephone.

My friends and relatives know that I only have my cellphone on when away
from home, so they reluctantly call my POTS phone, <BG>.


Have a nice day,

Holger

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In a message on Sunday 04-02-16 Tom Walker said to Holger Granholm:

GM Tom,

Thae you gone into "TOOLS" - "ACCOUNT SETTINGS" and in the middle of HG>TW> that page put a check mark next to the "Automaticly Download New
Messages" line ???

Sorry left out a step. On the account setting list click on Server
Setting and it is on that page.

TNX Tom, I'll give it a new try next time I open that "Pandoras Box" hi.

I did it yesterday:

I went into Tools and chose Account settings, but didn't find that "Automatically Download New messages" anywhere.

From the settings menu at the right edge I chose (among others),
Account Settings - Server Settings and checked the boxes for

"[] Check for new messages at Startup" and
"[] Check for new messages every [] min"

They were both ticked, so I just set a new value for the minutes.

That ought to be what you ment by "Automatically etc.....".

Down in the left corner there is an icon telling me about
connecting to my host, mail server and other things.

Clicking on that icon gives me a choice of downloading new messages
before going off-line, even if I have already clicked on "Get
messages".

I've never seen it disconnecting from my host though, and never seen any
new messages downloaded, because I did already click on "Get messages"
and got what was in store.


73 de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

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In a message on Tuesday 04-04-16 mark lewis said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Mark,

You see, with this Mobile Internet, I'm not constantly on-line.

mobile internet?? i thought that was for cell phones and that one
would have DSL or cable for their fixed facilities...

Oh no, here it works for cell phones as well as laptops and pads.

=================

I forgot to add that Mobile Internet can also be run from a stationary
machine if you plug in a receiver for the frequencies used by the cell
phone companies.

These adapters (receivers) plug into an USB port, and come in two kinds.
One is an USB stick, and the other is kind-of-a router, with mostly a
couple of antennas. They do also plug into an USB port, but with a cable connector.

Laptops usually have built-in antenna(s), for the purpose.

I'm right now waiting for a 300 kbs thumb stick that is Win10
compatible. The presently available 150 kbs sticks already have Win10 compatible drivers, as do the 300 kbs "router" types.


Have a nice day,

Holger

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In a message on Sunday 04-02-16 Tom Walker said to Holger Granholm:

GM Tom,

Thae you gone into "TOOLS" - "ACCOUNT SETTINGS" and in the middle of HG>HG>TW> that page put a check mark next to the "Automaticly Download New HG>HG>TW> Messages" line ???

Sorry left out a step. On the account setting list click on Server HG>TW> Setting and it is on that page.

TNX Tom, I'll give it a new try next time I open that "Pandoras Box" hi.

I did it yesterday:

I went into Tools and chose Account settings, but didn't find that "Automatically Download New messages" anywhere.

From the settings menu at the right edge I chose (among others),
Account Settings - Server Settings and checked the boxes for

"[] Check for new messages at Startup" and
"[] Check for new messages every [] min"

They were both ticked, so I just set a new value for the minutes.

That ought to be what you ment by "Automatically etc.....".

aka Holger

Nope, In my Thunderbird under serve settings there is a line just under
"Check for New Messages Every" you can checki that says "Automaticly
Download New Messages" that can be checked

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In a message on Sunday 04-09-16 Tom Walker said to Holger Granholm:

GM Tom,

That ought to be what you ment by "Automatically etc.....".

Nope, In my Thunderbird under serve settings there is a line just
under "Check for New Messages Every" you can checki that says
"Automaticly Download New Messages" that can be checked

And both our Thunderbirds are supposed to be the same version!
I'll check again if I can find that setting. but it seems to work now,
when I click on the small icon in the lower left corner.

I get the note, if I want to Dld messages before going offline..


73 de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

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