• Windows settings

    From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Holger Granholm on Wed Nov 2 06:53:23 2016
    Following up a message from Roger Nelson to Holger Granholm:

    On Mon Oct-31-2016 09:51, Holger Granholm (2:20/228) wrote to Roger Nelson:

    In a message on Monday 10-29-16 Roger Nelson said to Holger
    Granholm:

    Hej,

    [...]

    IIRC the machine the GS had, was the Amiga 500. I may be wrong
    however.

    I believe that's the one we had demo'd. The RAM could be upgraded
    to 9 MB, I think. One could still buy ne of those on Ebay.

    I'd like to buy a vowel, Holger. -----------^


    Have a nice day,

    Et tu, Holger.


    Regards,

    Roger
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    Regards,

    Roger
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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Roger Nelson on Wed Nov 2 13:25:00 2016
    In a message on Monday 10-29-16 Roger Nelson said to Holger Granholm:

    Hi Roger,

    I read an article, in a puter magazine of course, about an
    anniversary upgrade to Win10, .......

    Simple enough to find out. Click Start > Settings > System > scroll
    down the left pane to About and click on it. If you have the
    anniversary update, it will show 1607, just like it shows on my
    tearline below.

    When I read 'pane' I interpret it to window. What I got after clicking
    Settings >, was a splash covering most of the screen.

    I tried to find "system", "about" and "version" without results.
    Next day I clicked the icon named 'system' on the splash screen, and
    there I found 'about' at the end of the list.

    It showed the version to be: 1607, ie. the update. I checked again the
    contents of the Windows Upgrade Assistant, and found a couple of text
    files dated oct.11 2016, apparently telling the date of the upgrade.

    That happens to be the date that killed my access to Facebook oct.12th.
    I haven't got it working since then.

    I believe the one before that was 1533, but I could be wrong. It
    was 15-something, however. (-:

    Yes it was apparently 1511. I started up the laptop, and before doing
    anything else, I checked the 'about', and it showed 1511. You may have
    done an upgrade after that, to have it show 1533.

    I then started up the WiFi, and was shown that Windows had an upgrade.
    It didn't ask me if it should apply it, but started downloading that immeadetely, and applied it at once.

    After that, when clicking Start > and Settings >, I do now get what I
    would call a 'window' (pane) on the left, that now makes me more
    confused, than the previous 'splash screen', with the various icons.

    OTOH, Facebook seems to work on that machine, despite the fact that I
    have never used, nor logged in to FB before with it. But of course, the
    user is the same, as well as the email address.


    Have a nice day,

    Holger

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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Holger Granholm on Fri Nov 4 11:13:25 2016
    On Wed Nov-02-2016 13:25, Holger Granholm (2:20/228) wrote to Roger Nelson:

    In a message on Monday 10-29-16 Roger Nelson said to Holger
    Granholm:

    Hej,

    I read an article, in a puter magazine of course, about an
    anniversary upgrade to Win10, .......

    Simple enough to find out. Click Start > Settings > System > scroll
    down the left pane to About and click on it. If you have the
    anniversary update, it will show 1607, just like it shows on my
    tearline below.

    When I read 'pane' I interpret it to window. What I got after
    clicking Settings >, was a splash covering most of the screen.

    Sorry. I should have put column there instead of 'pane'.

    I tried to find "system", "about" and "version" without results.
    Next day I clicked the icon named 'system' on the splash screen,
    and there I found 'about' at the end of the list.

    Great!

    It showed the version to be: 1607, ie. the update. I checked again
    the contents of the Windows Upgrade Assistant, and found a couple
    of text files dated oct.11 2016, apparently telling the date of the upgrade.

    I didn't go that far, but I still wonder why that icon is on the desktop.

    That happens to be the date that killed my access to Facebook
    oct.12th. I haven't got it working since then.

    Wow!

    I believe the one before that was 1533, but I could be wrong. It
    was 15-something, however. (-:

    Yes it was apparently 1511. I started up the laptop, and before
    doing anything else, I checked the 'about', and it showed 1511. You
    may have done an upgrade after that, to have it show 1533.

    Yes, I remember now. It was 1511. Thanks.

    I then started up the WiFi, and was shown that Windows had an
    upgrade. It didn't ask me if it should apply it, but started
    downloading that immeadetely, and applied it at once.

    I'll look into that.

    After that, when clicking Start > and Settings >, I do now get what
    I would call a 'window' (pane) on the left, that now makes me more confused, than the previous 'splash screen', with the various
    icons.

    OTOH, Facebook seems to work on that machine, despite the fact that
    I have never used, nor logged in to FB before with it. But of
    course, the user is the same, as well as the email address.

    I have a FB account, but I didn't get out while the getting was good. I haven't logged into it in a few years -- probably 4. I was talked into getting
    a FB account by a Russian concert pianist and her husband who now live in Baden-Baden, Germany.

    Have a nice day,

    You too.


    Regards,

    Roger
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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Roger Nelson on Thu Nov 3 09:36:00 2016
    In a message on Thursday 11-01-16 Roger Nelson said to Holger Granholm:

    Hejsan = Howdy Roger,

    No, I'm on US Fall (Central Daylight Time). We return to Central
    Standard Time this coming Sunday. I wish it would stay that way all

    Yeah, I agree. We changed back to normal time (UTC+2) oct. 30th.
    People here call it wintertime, which is stupid. Calling the DST
    summertime may be ok, but it's a total waste of time and energy.

    Farmers cannot change the time for the cows that have to be milked, same
    time every morning, irrespective of what the hour hand on the clock says

    Lately my body has accepted the time change very well, but even three
    years ago it a week before my body had adapted the change.

    Simple enough to find out. Click Start > Settings > System > scroll
    down the left pane to About and click on it.

    I'll have to startup the laptop again to study that "left pane" I got,
    after the upgrade to 1607, I told you about yesterday.

    IIRC the machine the GS had, was the Amiga 500. I may be wrong
    however.

    I believe that's the one we had demo'd. The RAM could be upgraded
    to 9 MB, I think. One could still buy ne of those on Ebay.

    I didn't have the proper manual to read about all it's capabilities, but
    as I recall having seen in the AmigaDos manual, it seemed to be very
    similar to Unix, (that we call Linux), with commands like mount etc, for
    adding capabilities.


    Have a good night,

    Holger

    ___
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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105.1 to Holger Granholm on Fri Nov 4 21:46:00 2016
    11-02-16 13:25 Holger Granholm wrote to Roger Nelson about Re: Windows settings Howdy! Holger and Roger,

    @MSGID: <581C6595.15013.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
    In a message on Monday 10-29-16 Roger Nelson said to Holger
    Granholm:

    Hi Roger,

    I read an article, in a puter magazine of course, about an
    anniversary upgrade to Win10, .......

    Simple enough to find out. Click Start > Settings > System > scroll
    down the left pane to About and click on it. If you have the
    anniversary update, it will show 1607, just like it shows on my
    tearline below.

    When I read 'pane' I interpret it to window. What I got after
    clicking Settings >, was a splash covering most of the screen.

    I tried to find "system", "about" and "version" without
    results. Next day I clicked the icon named 'system' on the
    splash screen, and there I found 'about' at the end of the
    list.

    It showed the version to be: 1607, ie. the update. I checked
    again the contents of the Windows Upgrade Assistant, and found
    a couple of text files dated oct.11 2016, apparently telling
    the date of the upgrade.

    That happens to be the date that killed my access to Facebook
    oct.12th. I haven't got it working since then.

    I believe the one before that was 1533, but I could be wrong. It
    was 15-something, however. (-:

    I clicked on a Link in this article by Woody Leonhard:

    https://www.askwoody.com/2016/woodys-win10tip-block-forced -updates-in-windows-10/

    The Link took me to:

    http://www.infoworld.com/article/3138088/microsoft-windows/ woodys-win10tip-block-forced-win10-updates.html

    As I was reading the article in that Link I thought of You
    and Roger talking about Windows 10 when I saw in Step 1
    there was a Link to learn what version of Windows 10
    is being used on a computer.

    Here's the Link:

    http://www.infoworld.com/article/3136336/microsoft-windows/ woodys-win10tip-how-to-figure-out-your-windows-10-version.html

    I Hope these Links/URL's help.

    Also in Woody's article on askwoody.com (above), He had another
    Link to an article on this website:

    https://4sysops.com/archives/disable-updates-in-windows-10 -1607-anniversary-update-using-group-policy/

    *I edited all of the URLs to fit on two lines in this message.*

    73 de Ed W9ODR

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Roger Nelson on Fri Nov 4 09:41:00 2016
    In a message on Friday 11-02-16 Roger Nelson said to Holger Granholm:

    Good evening Roger,

    I believe that's the one we had demo'd. The RAM could be upgraded
    to 9 MB, I think. One could still buy ne of those on Ebay.

    I'd like to buy a vowel, Holger. -------^

    I suggest a swap, you can have one of mine, like in instruktions! ----------------------------------------------------------^

    It's a consonant though, but who cares.


    Have a good night,

    Holger

    ___
    * MR/2 2.30 * If I learn from my mistakes, I get a FABULOUS education.


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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Holger Granholm on Sun Nov 6 07:21:19 2016
    On Thu Nov-03-2016 09:36, Holger Granholm (2:20/228) wrote to Roger Nelson:

    In a message on Thursday 11-01-16 Roger Nelson said to Holger
    Granholm:

    Hej,

    Hejsan = Howdy Roger,

    I thought that meant "Hello".

    Yeah, I agree. We changed back to normal time (UTC+2) oct. 30th.
    People here call it wintertime, which is stupid. Calling the DST summertime may be ok, but it's a total waste of time and energy.

    UTC+6 here this morning. I suppose the majority of the people wanted DST. Nobody asked me.

    Farmers cannot change the time for the cows that have to be milked,
    same time every morning, irrespective of what the hour hand on the
    clock says

    Isn't that the truth!

    Lately my body has accepted the time change very well, but even
    three years ago it a week before my body had adapted the change.

    My body still rebells against it.

    [...]

    I believe that's the one we had demo'd. The RAM could be upgraded
    to 9 MB, I think. One could still buy ne of those on Ebay.

    I didn't have the proper manual to read about all it's
    capabilities, but as I recall having seen in the AmigaDos manual,
    it seemed to be very similar to Unix, (that we call Linux), with
    commands like mount etc, for adding capabilities.

    I didn't get into the DOS part of it because at the time, I was more interested
    in the BASIC functions it used. Very similar to IBM or MS BASIC and I had only
    that one Amiga BASIC program to convert.

    Have a good night,

    You too.


    Regards,

    Roger
    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+ W10 (1607)
    * Origin: NCS BBS - Houma, LoUiSiAna - (1:3828/7)
  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Holger Granholm on Sun Nov 6 07:32:36 2016
    On Fri Nov-04-2016 09:41, Holger Granholm (2:20/228) wrote to Roger Nelson:

    In a message on Friday 11-02-16 Roger Nelson said to Holger
    Granholm:

    Hej,

    I believe that's the one we had demo'd. The RAM could be upgraded
    to 9 MB, I think. One could still buy ne of those on Ebay.

    I'd like to buy a vowel, Holger. -------^

    I suggest a swap, you can have one of mine, like in instruktions! ----------------------------------------------------------^

    Thanks.

    It's a consonant though, but who cares.

    The word still has vowels in it.

    BTW, I checked last night while W10 was running (I have W10 Pro) and I can't change the settings for updates. I thought not being able to change background
    colors in a window was aggravating enough, but now I have one more. The update
    settings and window background colors in Windows 7 can be set to whatever you want, but not W10.

    Have a good night,

    You too.


    Regards,

    Roger
    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+ W10 (1607)
    * Origin: NCS BBS - Houma, LoUiSiAna - (1:3828/7)
  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Roger Nelson on Sat Nov 5 11:11:00 2016
    In a message on Saturday 11-04-16 Roger Nelson said to Holger Granholm:

    Howdy Roger,

    Simple enough to find out. Click Start > Settings > System > scroll
    down the left pane to About and click on it.

    When I read 'pane' I interpret it to window. What I got after
    clicking Settings >, was a splash covering most of the screen.

    Sorry. I should have put column there instead of 'pane'.

    You don't have to be sorry. Windows itself doesn't seem to know, what to present on the screen. After I had let the update loose on the laptop,
    it showed a long column, with all kinds of settings, in a long column on
    the left side of the screen.

    Next time when I started it up and chose settings, it again was back to
    the splash screen, with the icons for different choices.

    It showed the version to be: 1607, ie. the update. I checked again
    the contents of the Windows Upgrade Assistant, and found a couple
    of text files dated oct.11 2016, apparently telling the date of the upgrade.

    I didn't go that far, but I still wonder why that icon is on the
    desktop.

    Me too!

    I have a FB account, but I didn't get out while the getting was
    good. I haven't logged into it in a few years -- probably 4. I was
    talked into getting a FB account by a Russian concert pianist and
    her husband who now live in Baden-Baden, Germany.

    I really don't have time for FB, but I opened the account mainly to be
    able to look at the videos and pictures my GS send from the various
    places his job takes him, and pictures that my relatives put up.


    Have a good day,

    Holger

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Roger Nelson on Sun Nov 6 10:25:00 2016

    06 Nov 16 07:32, you wrote to Holger Granholm:

    BTW, I checked last night while W10 was running (I have W10 Pro) and I can't change the settings for updates. I thought not being able to
    change background colors in a window was aggravating enough, but now I have one more. The update settings and window background colors in Windows 7 can be set to whatever you want, but not W10.

    have you looked in the scheduler? that's where they hide out and get launched from ;)

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
    ... I'm not dyslexic, thank dog!
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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to mark lewis on Sun Nov 6 13:06:35 2016
    On Sun Nov-06-2016 10:25, mark lewis (1:3634/12.73) wrote to Roger Nelson:

    06 Nov 16 07:32, you wrote to Holger Granholm:

    BTW, I checked last night while W10 was running (I have W10 Pro) and I can't change the settings for updates. I thought not being able to
    change background colors in a window was aggravating enough, but now I have one more. The update settings and window background colors in Windows 7 can be set to whatever you want, but not W10.

    have you looked in the scheduler? that's where they hide out and
    get launched from ;)

    I didn't check there yet, mainly because it didn't occur to me. I thought it would be under Settings, but the upgrades there seem to be hard-coded.


    Regards,

    Roger
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Roger Nelson on Sun Nov 6 19:35:00 2016
    UTC+6 here this morning. I suppose the majority of the people wanted DST. Nobody asked me.

    I am not at all a fan of DST. The "fall back" day is the day I think of everything going back to normal. :)

    Mike

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Ed Vance on Sun Nov 6 11:19:00 2016
    In a message on Sunday 11-04-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

    GE Ed,

    That happens to be the date that killed my access to Facebook
    oct.12th. I haven't got it working since then.

    I believe the one before that was 1533, but I could be wrong. It
    was 15-something, however. (-:

    I clicked on a Link in this article by Woody Leonhard:

    As I was reading the article in that Link I thought of You
    and Roger talking about Windows 10 when I saw in Step 1
    there was a Link to learn what version of Windows 10
    is being used on a computer.

    I know how to check the version of Windows 10.

    Regarding QRZ: I was in there yesterday and found that I couldn't do
    anything without Java, and the suggestions were to enable Java in
    FireFox, Chrome or Safari.

    However, I'm using Opera as my browser. If that had been on the list,
    I may have catched the suggestion to enable Java, but since I'm opposed
    to use Java, I'm glad that it wasn't on the list.

    So consequently I'll stay out.


    GN de Sam, OH0NC

    aka Holger

    ___
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Holger Granholm on Mon Nov 7 10:01:44 2016

    06 Nov 16 11:19, you wrote to Ed Vance:

    Regarding QRZ: I was in there yesterday and found that I couldn't do anything without Java, and the suggestions were to enable Java in
    FireFox, Chrome or Safari.

    java or javascript? they are not the same thing and are not related other than by name...

    However, I'm using Opera as my browser. If that had been on the list,
    I may have catched the suggestion to enable Java, but since I'm
    opposed to use Java, I'm glad that it wasn't on the list.

    even so you can easily look it up...

    https://techhelpkb.com/enable-and-disable-java-in-opera/

    or if you meant javascript instead...

    https://pchelp.ricmedia.com/enable-disable-javascript-opera/

    So consequently I'll stay out.

    :)

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
    ... Hardware = The part you kick!!
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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Roger Nelson on Mon Nov 7 11:50:00 2016
    In a message on Monday 11-06-16 Roger Nelson said to Holger Granholm:

    Good morning again Roger,

    Hejsan = Howdy Roger,

    I thought that meant "Hello".

    It's a hello that mostly is used between friends you know, while 'Hej'
    is mostly used between people that you are not familiar with.

    UTC+6 here this morning. I suppose the majority of the people
    wanted DST. Nobody asked me.

    Most people here are fed up with 'summer time', not least the farmers. Actually, we want to use swedish, ie. west european time, because the
    only official language here is swedish, despite that the rest of Finland
    is officially a bi-lingual country.

    We are enjoying swedish TV and radio programs, but we also have the
    finnish channels available.

    The problem is, that swedish time is UTC +1hr and finnish time is UTC +2
    also called east-european-time (eet), but we are a west european country

    Lately my body has accepted the time change very well, but even

    My body still rebells against it.

    I don't understand why my body doesn't rebell anymore.

    it seemed to be very similar to Unix, (that we call Linux), with
    commands like mount etc, for adding capabilities.

    I didn't get into the DOS part of it because at the time, I was more interested in the BASIC functions it used. Very similar to IBM or
    MS BASIC and I had only that one Amiga BASIC program to convert.

    I left Basic very soon after having acquired my first computer 1982.

    To make large and fast programs I started using assembler, and later
    I learned Turbo Pascal and also tried Turbo C. I stuck with Pascal.


    Regards,

    Holger

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Holger Granholm on Tue Nov 8 12:24:27 2016
    To make large and fast programs I started using assembler, and later
    I learned Turbo Pascal and also tried Turbo C. I stuck with Pascal.

    Ah yes, those were the days. Me too BTW.

    The PASCAL fido echo was where I spent most of my fido time in the early 1990s. I even got quite a lot of snippets into the SWAG archive. Nowadays all the old mirrors seem to give you a 404, but my copy is still available at

    http://eljaco.se/SWAG/

    And the revolutionary concept of embedded assembler code in TP7 did give programs a real boost, such as in my "The Fastest Pi Calculator Ever":

    http://eljaco.se/files/TURBO/CALCPI.ZIP




    ..

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Mark Lewis on Mon Nov 7 16:50:00 2016
    In a message on Monday 11-06-16 mark lewis said to Roger Nelson:

    Good morning Mark,

    BTW, I checked last night while W10 was running (I have W10 Pro) and I can't change the settings for updates.

    have you looked in the scheduler? that's where they hide out and get launched from ;)

    Thanks for the hint, I need it too!


    Have a nice day,

    Holger

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105.1 to Holger Granholm on Tue Nov 8 17:30:00 2016
    11-06-16 11:19 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Windows settings Howdy! Holger, GA,

    @MSGID: <582109CF.15024.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
    In a message on Sunday 11-04-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

    GE Ed,

    That happens to be the date that killed my access to Facebook
    oct.12th. I haven't got it working since then.

    I believe the one before that was 1533, but I could be wrong. It
    was 15-something, however. (-:

    I clicked on a Link in this article by Woody Leonhard:

    As I was reading the article in that Link I thought of You
    and Roger talking about Windows 10 when I saw in Step 1
    there was a Link to learn what version of Windows 10
    is being used on a computer.

    I know how to check the version of Windows 10.

    Iirc the article said Cortana was to be used to learn what version of
    WinTen was being used on a pc.
    When I read the article I thought it looked like a quick way to get that
    info.
    But I haven't any plans to start using WinTen so I really don't know
    anything about it by experience.

    I read messages from BBS Users (and others) to learn about what they like
    or don't like about the OS they use.

    I was using Win95/98 until 2006, then I started using XP after reading
    BBS messages from Users giving it a good report.
    Lately all I read about XP is that it isn't a good OS to use anymore.

    Regarding QRZ: I was in there yesterday and found that I couldn't do anything without Java, and the suggestions were to enable Java in
    FireFox, Chrome or Safari.

    I see Mark sent a message about Javascript/JAVA to You.
    Before I Log On QRZ now, I learned that I HAVE TO enable s3.Amazonaws.com
    in NoScript or I will get that error message from QRZ too.

    However, I'm using Opera as my browser. If that had been on the list,
    I may have catched the suggestion to enable Java, but since I'm opposed
    to use Java, I'm glad that it wasn't on the list.

    I have Opera's browser too to use if Firefox quits working or it can't
    get a web page to open.

    So consequently I'll stay out.

    I just tried Opera to log on QRZ, and it worked for me.
    Opera didn't gripe a bit.
    I looked for OH0NC and got the page asking if I wanted to add it to their database, I didn't.

    I looked at my page twice, when I was Logged In and after I Logged Out.

    I found out the second time all it showed was the message I had saying
    what my old Call Signs were, when I clicked the Second Tab, it said I had
    to be Logged On to read what was there.

    The Second Tab is where I see the HamGrid option, that is just below the Map.

    The HamGrid has options to show the QTH of other Hams in the area that is
    being displayed in the HamGrid window and what Grid their QTH is in.

    I guess You will have to Subscribe to put OH0NC in the QRZ Database.

    73 de Ed W9ODR

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Mark Lewis on Wed Nov 9 17:53:00 2016
    In a message on Wednesday 11-07-16 mark lewis said to Holger Granholm:

    Hi Mark,

    anything without Java, and the suggestions were to enable Java in
    FireFox, Chrome or Safari.

    java or javascript? they are not the same thing and are not related
    other than by name...

    However, I'm using Opera as my browser. If that had been on the list,

    It was JavaScript.

    even so you can easily look it up...

    https://techhelpkb.com/enable-and-disable-java-in-opera/

    or if you meant javascript instead...

    https://pchelp.ricmedia.com/enable-disable-javascript-opera/

    I checked today, and found in the Opera tools, the settings for both
    Java and Javascript.

    I enabled both and connected to QRZ. It still complained that Javascript
    wasn't enabled. I closed down Opera, restarted it and tried again.

    Same message: Your Javascript isn't enabled ....

    Thanks for the lesson, anyway. I'll try the above URL's next time.


    Have a good day,

    Holger

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Björn Felten on Thu Nov 10 09:42:00 2016
    In a message on Thursday 11-08-16 Björn Felten said to Holger Granholm:

    Hej Björn,

    I learned Turbo Pascal and also tried Turbo C. I stuck with Pascal.

    The PASCAL fido echo was where I spent most of my fido time in
    the early 1990s.

    Most of the programs I produced were for the radio amateurs, like log
    programs and contest logs with calculation of the scores.

    When I joined Fido, I had almost left the programming age, with a few exceptions for add-ons to PCBoard. Those use the PPL-language.


    Ha en bra dag,

    Holger

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Holger Granholm on Fri Nov 11 05:55:44 2016
    09 Nov 16 17:53, you wrote to me:

    It was JavaScript.

    ok...

    even so you can easily look it up...

    https://techhelpkb.com/enable-and-disable-java-in-opera/

    or if you meant javascript instead...

    https://pchelp.ricmedia.com/enable-disable-javascript-opera/

    I checked today, and found in the Opera tools, the settings for both
    Java and Javascript.

    I enabled both and connected to QRZ. It still complained that Javascript wasn't enabled. I closed down Opera, restarted it and tried again.

    Same message: Your Javascript isn't enabled ....

    are you using a blocker like noscript? if so, tell it to temp allow qrz or whatever site it is blocking... hopefully it has a list of all domains used on the page... i select one at the time and let it reload... i'm very picky about the ones i allow through for different sites and i only allow through enough to
    make the page work properly... i don't know off hand what domains qrz pulls stuff from, though... i only go there once in a blue moon as there are other places to get the same info without the hassle...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Ed Vance on Thu Nov 10 09:42:00 2016
    In a message on Thursday 11-08-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

    GE Ed,

    I know how to check the version of Windows 10.

    Iirc the article said Cortana was to be used to learn what version
    of WinTen was being used on a pc.

    Not at all necessary. The fastest way is to click on Settings>, then the
    System Icon> and on the bottom of the presented column, click on 'About'

    This I learned from Roger.

    I don't use Cortana at all

    I was using Win95/98 until 2006, then I started using XP after
    reading BBS messages from Users giving it a good report.

    I jumped from WFWG 3.11 to XP Pro, without passing any versions between.
    ----- " ----- XP Pro to Win10 Pro, ----------------- " ----------------.

    Lately all I read about XP is that it isn't a good OS to use
    anymore.

    XP is still usable, and I still have it on an old Lenovo laptop.

    I see Mark sent a message about Javascript/JAVA to You.

    Yes, the discussion is going on.

    Before I Log On QRZ now, I learned that I HAVE TO enable
    s3.Amazonaws.com in NoScript or I will get that error message from
    QRZ too.

    Dunno what that is.

    I just tried Opera to log on QRZ, and it worked for me.
    Opera didn't gripe a bit.

    OK.

    I looked for OH0NC and got the page asking if I wanted to add it to
    their database, I didn't.

    Next time you can add my callsign there, since I read that a QRZ-user
    could do that. After that, if I ever try to access QRZ again, I may
    update the information, which you cannot do.

    I guess You will have to Subscribe to put OH0NC in the QRZ Database.

    I have subscribed already, so have I access to the database when/if it
    accepts the Javascript that Opera offers.

    I have forgotten to mention to you, that when looking at the map of time
    zones, in and old english "Radio Reference Handbook", published 1946,
    I stumbled across an "English-German Radio Vocabulary" in it.

    The reason I didn't remember it, was that I got a good dose of german at school, and that I have learned the german radio terms in the education
    to radio- and TV-tecnician, and also from the service manuals.


    CU L8ER, Sam, OH0NC

    aka Holger

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105.1 to Holger Granholm on Sun Nov 13 17:51:00 2016
    11-10-16 09:42 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Windows settings

    @MSGID: <58264FD0.15034.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
    In a message on Thursday 11-08-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

    GE Ed,
    GA Holger,
    -skip-
    Next time you can add my callsign there, since I read that a QRZ-user could do that. After that, if I ever try to access QRZ again, I may
    update the information, which you cannot do.

    I entered OH0NC with Your Name and Address on QRZ.COM .

    Look for a Email with more details of what 'Ed' did.

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Mark Lewis on Mon Nov 14 09:43:00 2016
    In a message on Monday 11-11-16 mark lewis said to Holger Granholm:

    Good morning Mark,

    I enabled both and connected to QRZ. It still complained that Javascript wasn't enabled. I closed down Opera, restarted it and tried again.

    are you using a blocker like noscript? if so, tell it to temp allow
    qrz or whatever site it is blocking... hopefully it has a list of
    all domains used on the page...

    As far as I can recall, I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere in any
    settings, and I don't know if AVG or ZoneAlarm do use it.

    i select one at the time and let it reload... i'm very picky about
    the ones i allow through for different sites and i only allow through enough to make the page work properly...

    OK, I'll have to see if "search" can find such a setting.

    I'm also finding that some programs are very selective to Opera.
    Yesterday I let the Adobe Reader upgrade. After having done that, it
    left a message that it could'nt apply it to Opera, but did it on Edge.

    I have never, ever used that browser, it was just included in Windows.
    I chose Opera because I was familiar with it from OS/2, and also because
    it maybe isn't as prone to be attacked as the usual browsers like Edge
    and FireFox may be.

    I may have to let FireFox loose. I do have it installed, and on the
    laptop Gnome was included when I received it.

    Oh well, I have much to learn about Windows 10 since XP :-(


    Have a good day,

    Holger

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Holger Granholm on Fri Nov 18 22:30:00 2016
    14 Nov 16 09:43, you wrote to me:

    I enabled both and connected to QRZ. It still complained that
    Javascript wasn't enabled. I closed down Opera, restarted it and
    tried again.

    are you using a blocker like noscript? if so, tell it to temp allow
    qrz or whatever site it is blocking... hopefully it has a list of all
    domains used on the page...

    As far as I can recall, I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere in any settings, and I don't know if AVG or ZoneAlarm do use it.

    they do not... it is a browser addon that you have to specifically install... noscript and adblockpro are the only two browsers addons i use and recommend but they do require some learning for one to get all their sites working properly without ads...


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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Ed Vance on Wed Nov 16 09:41:00 2016
    In a message on Wednesday 11-13-16 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

    GE Ed,

    Ouch, look at the date above - and it arrived today, the 16th !!

    I entered OH0NC with Your Name and Address on QRZ.COM .

    Yeah, TNX

    Look for a Email with more details of what 'Ed' did.

    Got it, replied to it, TNX.


    73 es GN de OH0NC, Sam

    aka Holger

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Mark Lewis on Tue Nov 22 09:04:00 2016
    In a message on Tuesday 11-18-16 mark lewis said to Holger Granholm:

    Good evening Mark,

    are you using a blocker like noscript? if so, tell it to temp allow
    qrz or whatever site it is blocking...

    As far as I can recall, I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere in any settings, and I don't know if AVG or ZoneAlarm do use it.

    they do not... it is a browser addon that you have to specifically install... noscript and adblockpro are the only two browsers addons
    i use and recommend but they do require some learning for one to get
    all their sites working properly without ads...

    As I mentioned before, I did check the settings of Opera, and both Java
    and Javascript were enabled.

    Thanks for the info. One of these days/nights, I will disable Opera as
    the favourite browser, and enable FireFox instead.


    Have a good night,

    Holger

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