• RULES

    From Jim Rysyk@1:12/242 to Randal Putnam on Sat Aug 5 14:55:41 2000
    Have we come to an end?


    Well, it could be, all is all too well, and no one needs any help.


    Or, that they are experimenting with the other OS, and just can't connect to anything, and can't participate in echo mail. I've two downlinks and two uplinks that fall into this description. At least one of the uplinks then gave
    up BBSing, because he never could get the new OS to keep a BBS up, and reliably
    toss mail.


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  • From Jim Rysyk@1:12/242 to Mark Lewis on Thu Aug 10 03:36:44 2000
    with seenbys like that from systems on this side of 'the pond'...

    I know I have some downlinks, but don't know how many other Region 12 systems have downlink, I'm adding the following since you did not show Region 12:

    AREA:OS2DOSBBS 1:163/585 [04 Aug 00 14:31:48]
    PATH: 213/742 213 10/3 12/12 163/99 506 585 12/242

    AREA:OS2DOSBBS 1:163/585 [05 Aug 00 06:36:52]
    PATH: 219/308 211/400 10/3 12/12 163/99 506 585 12/242

    AREA:OS2DOSBBS 1:163/585 [06 Aug 00 20:45:53]
    PATH: 2625/50 2624/306 106/1 396/1 3821/100 200 10/3 12/12
    PATH: 163/99 506 585 12/242

    AREA:OS2DOSBBS 1:163/585 [07 Aug 00 23:53:02]
    PATH: 3634/12 3651/9 396/1 3821/100 200 10/3 12/12 163/99
    PATH: 163/506 585 12/242

    AREA:OS2DOSBBS 1:163/585 [07 Aug 00 16:39:34]
    PATH: 219/308 211/400 10/3 12/12 163/99 506 585 12/242

    AREA:OS2DOSBBS 1:163/585 [08 Aug 00 23:53:04]
    PATH: 772/100 20 1 140/1 12/12 163/99 506 585 12/242

    AREA:OS2DOSBBS 1:163/585 [06 Aug 00 00:33:08]
    PATH: 451/23 16 450/129 451/30 5020/1423 238 5030/115 2446/301
    PATH: 2613/404 140/1 12/12 163/99 506 585 12/242


    i'm curious to see what the seenbys and path of my reply are when
    you get it...

    Well, I guess your going to have some homework, to compile the seen-by lists ;)


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  • From Jim Rysyk@1:12/242 to Stewart Arnett on Thu Aug 10 05:20:01 2000
    Opps, should have changed the Subject line. Sorry!


    I still run TAG and Front Door under OS/2. Does that count??

    Got Maximus, Portal, Squish, TransX and Seal sitting in a dos box
    here on OS/2 W4, been up and running untouched since the 1st July
    when I moved it over to this machine.


    This line in my Autoexec.bat boots my BBS, and puts it into a continious loop:

    LH MLTBBS /F /6 /OX:TIMS,TDBSOM,QSO,ICHG,SYSOM,MSGX,3PARTY

    FYI:

    TIMS, the mailer, router, and real time SCAN and e-Mail TOSSER, file locator,
    and magic work keeper.
    Tims also has sub processors, like Flame, and a NodeDiff and NodeList
    compiler, with Net, Zone, Region, and net Status reports, or
    alternative nodelist format generation. I posted one such report for
    Zone 1, and each Region in a message in Zone1Elections last week if
    anyone is interested in seeing the format, or output.

    TDBSON the online real time database, and database compiler for intergrating
    dBase, Clipper, Foxpro and perhaps some C code into the BBS. I've a
    number of applications using this xBase feature, from Games, Business
    inventory control, online sales, invoice printing, etc. I also use
    it to allow BBS callers to search some 30+ nodelist of different BBS
    networks.

    QSO the real time .QWK mail tosser, scanner, packer, with other features.

    ICHG the Internet Gateway, real time tosser, scanner, for UUCP mail. Not
    really utilized without a Unix UUCP uplink connection. They are now
    harder to fine, than they once were.

    SYSOM a sysop tool, to allow remote low level systems access, user
    monitoring, user keyboard control, ect without interferring with
    system, or other BBS line operations, plus some other stuff.

    MSGX allows some other type of message base management, and not really
    utilized. I shouild see if it can toss my Netscape mail into the
    BBS.

    3Party Allows 3rd party software to be run as part of the BBS. Not really
    utilized.



    Well, alls well over here, and has been since OS/2 Ver 1.2 when I first ran TBBS (The Bread Board System) in a DOS session with a number of different Multi
    I/O cards (Hayes Comunications Accelerator, Boca 6 Port, Bocaboard[16 port]) and a combination of those multi I/O cards, and used none of the TBBS parameters shown in the above line.

    Used Binkley and TMail along with TIC and Raid since the 80's untill TIMS came out way back when ever. I think two lines in Binkley.CFG needed editing or one
    editing, and one adding, then renamed Binkley.cfg to TIMS.CTL to active the muti line mailer. Later added schedules, and restricted what nodes got called on what lines, at what times, and at what delay between dials, and who was routed via who. Tryed to never use the nodelisted line, for outbound calls.

    TMail didn't need any lines edited as I recall, and just renamed it, to Flame.CFG to use it to toss the mail. Then added many lines later, to activate
    AreadFix, impliment filters, add a few different newer archive types, and some packing routing, and security password stuff, etc.


    This Muti port DOS BBS operation still takes less than 1% of CPU and DISK demand, even when using 2+2 ISDN lines in 1995 with 10 of the 16 lines configured, or when running on the *SDL box since early 1999 with both TCP/IP, and (IPX and SPX) drivers loaded for the different ethernet cards. The tin can
    holding an old IBM Cyrix 120 CPU that is mounted in a low end Pine MB bought in
    May 1997, is mounted in this 1980's 80286 box. Thisw box once housed a full size 80286-6 or 8 MHz motherboard. My full tower 350 Watt Power supply died on
    a long weekend, and this box was an avalable step stool. Yes, I was using it as a step stool for a few years ;)_. The 200 AMP PS worked, so as a temp fix, to get the BBS back up, it was used, and remains the case for the OS/2 box that
    runs the 16 line version of TBBS.

    I had 3 1.7 gig, then 3 8.4 Gig drives in the hidden full hight slot, with a 4x4 disk changer, 1.2, and a 1.44 drives in the accessable slots. Now pulled the three 8.4 gig drives, and replaced them with a 28 Gig unit, and use a 6.4 gig unit for ZIP backups of the OS/2 and BBS configuration stuff. The 6.4 drive has its power jack pulled, and only gets pluged in for backups. I think I backed it up once this year, or perhaps that was last year? Well, its about time to update my backup, so I guess the box needs to get turned off, so I can plug in the 6.4 drives power, and let the BIOS find it on boot!


    Basically, the BBS OS/2 DOS session, the BBS echos, and OS/2 Config.sys configurations have not changed much in 8 to 10 years. Software OS and other upgrades get applied, the BBS remains 90%+ the same it was in 1990. Areafix is
    automated for both up and downlinks, so not much has changed, or need changing.
    I did break Tick/Raid config back in 1992, when I added drive capacity, and changed paths. Think I got it working, just before adding larger drives, and changing paths again in the mid 90's. Then never got around to fixing or changing the BBS other than paths these past 8 years. Just lazy I guess. Or perhaps the broken, and intermittant echo and file feeds since 1992, have left me indifferent ever since.

    So for me, not much needed to be asked. I did do my fair amount of Net and Region complaining about the broken echo and file feeds. I do try to read all the OS/2 areas, but recently, in the past 18 months, been using the browsers, and readers, on the *SDL TCP/IP side of the box, and stoped complaining about the iregualar echo and file feeds. No file feed from Fido for over two years now, and got my 1st echo feed from two nets in 4 days today. Fifteen other nets I'm a hub, or NEC/NC, REC/RC for, remain dead. We elect or have a new ZC
    or RC and then have no mail flow in so many networks. Most often with the same
    *C, *EC going from network to network braging what they will do if elected/appointed, then nothing, or very iregular mail delivery, processing, etc.

    The ZC/ZEC and RC/REC remain unable or unwilling to reply to directly deleivered Netmails, or e-Mail sent to their previously posted address.

    Whatever mail I tossed today, was received out of region, via file attatched e-Mail. A third net delivers from out of Province. I stopped polling out of country when no netmail replys, echo mail or files were picked up from mutiple networks in over 8 months. e-Mail file attatchements is how my outbound Fido and other net mail goes out, as local Fido mail delivery, even if writen locally on any of the local toll free dial up system from the two local Fido nets is nil. I've had a few BBS users write themselves and me Net and Echo mail from those local systems, and its never arrived here.

    Anyhow, that the story over here.

    ysme@sympatico.ca

    RysYK, JAmeS, incase anyone wants to know why the strange e-Mail address.
    ^^ ^^ Pronounce it, IS ME

    That it is.



    Take care.


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Jim Rysyk on Mon Aug 14 19:54:20 2000
    with seenbys like that from systems on this side of 'the pond'...

    I know I have some downlinks, but don't know how many other
    Region 12 systems have downlink, I'm adding the following
    since you did not show Region 12:

    i don't know what i showed... only that info that came to my system in the message in question... if it didn't travel thru your system on it's way to me, then i won't have anything from your neck of the woods in the data i posted...

    i'm curious to see what the seenbys and path of my reply are when
    you get it...

    Well, I guess your going to have some homework, to compile the
    seen-by lists ;)

    what? why didn't you just quote them (path and seenbys) back to me? i'd rather see what he gets on his end being so far away... and seenbys won't give me the path...

    besides, i already have a pathline charting program... no, it's not PATHS 'cause i don't run with any message bases it'll work with but it is/was the foundation for what i'm working on...

    )\/(ark


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  • From Jim Rysyk@1:12/242 to Mark Lewis on Thu Aug 17 22:41:30 2000
    what? why didn't you just quote them (path and seenbys) back to me?


    My tosser strips all that stuff from the message base, and sends it to a trace log. The trace log entrys for this particulare echo, is what I sent back.



    PS:

    I can use many months worth of trace log, to see is a node is active in one of the echos my system participates in. Combine that with the multi hobby net combined online nodelist search, I can point any BBS users to an active echo that has a node in just about any town in the world. Then sugest they look for
    that tag line address, and the name of the author of the message in that echo, to relay messages to their friends in those towns. 1 + 1 = >2 One contact is made, they can Netmail each other.


    You have to harness the ability of the simple things.


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