• Fdsz

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to All on Sat Apr 2 10:11:00 2005
    | -> Are you using fdsz rather than dsz?
    |
    | BINGO!!! That was the problem. File transfers are woking. Thanks so
    | much.
    +-[MP=>MP]

    In order to run fdsz on a telnet system, with virtulized ports, do you
    need a fossil driver?

    I am running a DOS BBS program under OS/2 using Vmodem SIO2K. The BBS
    program itself works fine, but the protocols do not. The BBS program
    is running without a fossil (unless Vmodem is considered a fossil).
    Would fdsz help fix my problem?

    Mike



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  • From Gordon Lewicky@1:153/307 to Mike Powell on Sat Apr 2 23:24:36 2005
    Quoting Mike Powell to All
    Subj. Fdsz, dated 02-Apr-2005 10:11

    | -> Are you using fdsz rather than dsz?
    |
    | BINGO!!! That was the problem. File transfers are woking. Thanks
    so | much.
    +-[MP=>MP]

    In order to run fdsz on a telnet system, with virtulized ports, do you need a fossil driver?

    A fossil is a big help, and if multinode, probably manditory.

    I am running a DOS BBS program under OS/2 using Vmodem SIO2K. The BBS program itself works fine, but the protocols do not. The BBS program
    is running without a fossil (unless Vmodem is considered a fossil).
    Would fdsz help fix my problem?

    Vmodem is only an modem emulator and I believe you can't run Vmodem
    without SIO. SIO is the fossil. If you have the sio lines in
    config.sys stating which ports are "INTERNET" then you are running
    a fossil.

    IN = TCPIP signal -> Vmodem -> SIO -> BBS
    OUT = BBS -> SIO -> Vmodem -> TCPIP signal

    DSZ should work as long as the pass params are correct and you
    have the proper dsz environ vars set.

    DSZ works quite well here in telnet, tho I've only set it up with
    Zmodem.

    Cheers...
    Gordon Lewicky (Pdk)

    email glewicky@telus.net www.milkyway-bbs.ca


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Gordon Lewicky on Sun Apr 3 11:29:10 2005
    *** Quoting Gordon Lewicky from a message to Mike Powell ***

    Vmodem is only an modem emulator and I believe you can't run Vmodem without SIO. SIO is the fossil. If you have the sio lines in

    If he doesn't have DEVICE=X:\SIO\VX00.SYS, he's not running a FOSSIL for his DOS BBS . . . that line isn't automatically added upon install from what I've seen in my time with SIO (using v1.60d).

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Sean Dennis on Sun Apr 3 16:49:40 2005
    Vmodem is only an modem emulator and I believe you can't run
    Vmodem without SIO. SIO is the fossil. If you have the sio
    lines in

    If he doesn't have DEVICE=X:\SIO\VX00.SYS, he's not running a
    FOSSIL for his DOS BBS . . . that line isn't automatically
    added upon install from what I've seen in my time with SIO
    (using v1.60d).

    you are correct... that line is not automatically added during installation... and, as mentioned in another message in another echo, i don't put that line in my config.sys, either... no need to since all tasks do not need access to the fossil or com ports... i do it by putting that line in the properties for the tasks that need it...

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  • From Gordon Lewicky@1:153/307 to Sean Dennis on Sun Apr 3 20:25:42 2005
    Quoting Sean Dennis to Gordon Lewicky
    Subj. Re: Fdsz, dated 03-Apr-2005 10:29

    If he doesn't have DEVICE=X:\SIO\VX00.SYS, he's not running a FOSSIL
    for his DOS BBS . . . that line isn't automatically added upon install from what I've seen in my time with SIO (using v1.60d).

    Right you are. I've got mine in the dos properties of each node's
    object. That and nansi.sys

    Cheers...
    Gordon Lewicky (Pdk)

    email glewicky@telus.net www.milkyway-bbs.ca


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Gordon Lewicky on Mon Apr 4 00:01:06 2005
    *** Quoting Gordon Lewicky from a message to Sean Dennis ***

    object. That and nansi.sys

    What's NANSI.SYS? I've just got ANSI.SYS loaded . . .

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Gordon Lewicky@1:153/307 to Sean Dennis on Mon Apr 4 12:43:42 2005
    Quoting Sean Dennis to Gordon Lewicky
    Subj. Re: Fdsz, dated 03-Apr-2005 23:01

    object. That and nansi.sys

    What's NANSI.SYS? I've just got ANSI.SYS loaded . . .

    It's a 3rd party ansi.sys. I've found it to be faster then
    MS's ansi.sys and if you're into playing with ansi, it has more
    functionality.

    Cheers...
    Gordon Lewicky (Pdk)

    email glewicky@telus.net www.milkyway-bbs.ca


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Gordon Lewicky on Thu Apr 7 12:57:00 2005
    Vmodem is only an modem emulator and I believe you can't run Vmodem GL>without SIO. SIO is the fossil. If you have the sio lines in
    config.sys stating which ports are "INTERNET" then you are running
    a fossil.

    Yep, I've got a fossil, then. ;-)

    DSZ should work as long as the pass params are correct and you
    have the proper dsz environ vars set.

    DSZ works quite well here in telnet, tho I've only set it up with
    Zmodem.

    Yeah, I figured out that I had an enviro thing set wrong in a set path.
    Fixed that, and all my external protocols work fine now.

    I have wondered if Ymodem-G is appropriate to have available on a telnet
    bbs. The caller may have dialed-into their ISP using an error-correcting modem, but I don't think that the cable modem on this end is. ;-)

    Mike
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  • From Rob Swindell to Mike Powell on Fri Apr 8 17:42:50 2005
    Re: Fdsz
    By: Mike Powell to Gordon Lewicky on Thu Apr 07 2005 12:57 pm

    Vmodem is only an modem emulator and I believe you can't run Vmodem GL>without SIO. SIO is the fossil. If you have the sio lines in GL>config.sys stating which ports are "INTERNET" then you are running
    a fossil.

    Yep, I've got a fossil, then. ;-)

    DSZ should work as long as the pass params are correct and you
    have the proper dsz environ vars set.

    DSZ works quite well here in telnet, tho I've only set it up with GL>Zmodem.

    Yeah, I figured out that I had an enviro thing set wrong in a set path. Fixed that, and all my external protocols work fine now.

    I have wondered if Ymodem-G is appropriate to have available on a telnet bbs. The caller may have dialed-into their ISP using an error-correcting modem, but I don't think that the cable modem on this end is. ;-)

    Telnet runs over TCP and TCP is an "error-correcting protocol", so in theory Ymodem-G should run just dandy over Telnet. In reality, it depends on the implementation (protocol driver) used.

    digital man

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Mark Lewis on Wed Apr 13 13:25:00 2005
    If he doesn't have DEVICE=X:\SIO\VX00.SYS, he's not running a

    you are correct... that line is not automatically added during installation... >and, as mentioned in another message in another echo, i don't put that line in >my config.sys, either... no need to since all tasks do not need access to the >fossil or com ports... i do it by putting that line in the properties for the >tasks that need it...

    Where under Properties do you place that line?

    I do currently have it in my CONFIG.SYS file currently.

    Mike
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Mike Powell on Thu Apr 14 08:07:47 2005
    If he doesn't have DEVICE=X:\SIO\VX00.SYS, he's not running a

    you are correct... that line is not automatically added during >installation... and, as mentioned in another message in another
    echo, i don't put that line in my config.sys, either... no need
    to since all tasks do not need access to the fossil or com
    ports... i do it by putting that line in the properties for the
    tasks that need it...

    Where under Properties do you place that line?

    in the DOS settings in the devices section...

    I do currently have it in my CONFIG.SYS file currently.

    there's is really nothing wrong with that... it just means that VX00 is loaded in all tasks when they are started... i just preferred to keep my stuff seperated... very rarely do i need to access fossil stuffs outside my normal bbs tasks...

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Rob Swindell on Sat Apr 16 14:53:00 2005
    Telnet runs over TCP and TCP is an "error-correcting protocol", so in theory Ymodem-G should run just dandy over Telnet. In reality, it depends on the implementation (protocol driver) used.


    Thanks! I had not realized that.

    Mike
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Mike Powell on Tue Dec 12 05:37:23 2006

    If he doesn't have DEVICE=X:\SIO\VX00.SYS, he's not running a

    you are correct... that line is not automatically added during >installation... and, as mentioned in another message in another echo,
    i don't put that line in my config.sys, either... no need to since all
    tasks do not need access to the fossil or com ports... i do it by
    putting that line in the properties for the tasks that need it...

    Where under Properties do you place that line?

    I do currently have it in my CONFIG.SYS file currently.

    right click -> settings -> session tab -> DOS settings button -> DOS_DEVICE

    i have the following listed in each icon for each node of my bbs...

    SIZE=0 C:\TCPIP\BIN\VDOSTCP.SYS
    SIZE=0 C:\OS2\MDOS\ANSI.SYS
    SIZE=0 C:\SIO\VX00.SYS

    SIZE=0 is like the old LOADHIGH command ;)

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Sean Dennis on Tue Dec 19 10:38:02 2006


    object. That and nansi.sys

    What's NANSI.SYS? I've just got ANSI.SYS loaded . . .

    NANSI.SYS is another ANSI driver... there were several thirdparty ANSI drivers available... some allowed for the disabling of key macros and others simply did
    not support key macros... i also had one that supported ANSI music but didn't use it very much...

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Mike Powell on Tue Dec 19 10:40:21 2006

    I have wondered if Ymodem-G is appropriate to have available on a
    telnet bbs. The caller may have dialed-into their ISP using an error-correcting modem, but I don't think that the cable modem on
    this end is. ;-)

    TCP/IP has built in error detection and correction... however, it doesn't always work as it should... case in point is that the BINKP folk had to go back
    and add error detection because there were cases and times that the data arrived at the other end incomplete or otherwise corrupted...

    )\/(ark


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