Hi,

Can I use DOS programs that manipulate files on an HPFS partition that is greater than 2gb in size?

Thanks,
Doug

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Can I use DOS programs that manipulate files on an HPFS partition
that is greater than 2gb in size?

highly unlikely... especially if that DOS program is not specifically coded for
handling such large files... such coding is not for the faint of heart and is relatively new in today's world... i'm not aware of any DOS programs that can do such...

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Hi,

Can I use DOS programs that manipulate files on an HPFS partition that
is
greater than 2gb in size?

I believe you can, as long as that program doesn't check for 'free
space' or anything about drive space. I have a OS2 TSR program here that that I use that fools DOS programs into thinking there's always 2gb or less space available.





.....Bob

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Can I use DOS programs that manipulate files on an HPFS partition
that is greater than 2gb in size?

highly unlikely... especially if that DOS program is not specifically coded for handling such large files... such coding is not for the
faint of heart and is relatively new in today's world... i'm not
aware of any DOS programs that can do such...

That's what I suspected. So...know of a non-destructive parition editor that works with HPFS (not sure if gparted does or not)?

Thanks,
Doug

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Can I use DOS programs that manipulate files on an HPFS partition that
is greater than 2gb in size?

I believe you can, as long as that program doesn't check for 'free
space' or anything about drive space. I have a OS2 TSR program
here that that I use that fools DOS programs into thinking there's
always 2gb or less space available.

Interesting. What is the name of that TRS program?

Thanks,
Doug

--- Telegard v3.09.g2-sp4/mL
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Can I use DOS programs that manipulate files on an HPFS partition
that is greater than 2gb in size?

I believe you can, as long as that program doesn't check for 'free
space' or anything about drive space. I have a OS2 TSR program
here that that I use that fools DOS programs into thinking there's
always 2gb or less space available.

Interesting. What is the name of that TRS program?

IIRC, it is 2gig or something like that... i use it here, too... in all my DOS side ops... it does work but not always... for example, i have the original allfix universal which runs mostly from my DOS side but it has problems with the disk sizes on my destination drives and reports not enough space for a lot of stuff... even with 2gig in place... after fighting it quietly for several years, i finally found a workaround via a command line parameter that seems to handle it... i've not tried converting that particular bit of my system's processing to the OS/2 side, though... as it was, i had to move all of my allfix processing to my midnight maint due to another problem with my netmail area and "file in use" conflicts that shouldn't have been happening...

anyway... [searching] ahhh... here it is!


2GBFIX.ZIP 10165 17-Nov-1998 ==============================================
2GBFIX is a workaround for a problem that
occurs in DOS and WIN-OS/2 sessions under OS/2
(and possibly other OSes that provide virtual
DOS sessions) when you have disks or
partitions that exceed 2 GB (2048 MB) in size.



it is FREQable from my system via POTS or FTN over Telnet... or one can POTS dial or telnet in to the bbs proper and download it... then there's also my web
and ftp servers which also have it available... choose your poison ;)

)\/(ark


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IIRC, it is 2gig or something like that... i use it here, too... in
all my DOS side ops... it does work but not always... for example, i
have the original allfix universal which runs mostly from my DOS side
but it has problems with the disk sizes on my destination drives and reports not enough space for a lot of stuff... even with 2gig in
place... after fighting it quietly for several years, i finally found
a workaround via a command line parameter that seems to handle it...
i've not tried converting that particular bit of my system's
processing to the OS/2 side, though... as it was, i had to move all
of my allfix processing to my midnight maint due to another problem
with my netmail area and"file in use" conflicts that shouldn't have
been happening...

anyway... [searching] ahhh... here it is!

2GBFIX.ZIP 10165 17-Nov-1998 ============================================== 2GBFIX is a workaround
for a problem that occurs in DOS and WIN-OS/2 sessions under OS/2
(and possibly other OSes that provide virtual DOS sessions) when you
have disks or partitions that exceed 2 GB (2048 MB) in size.

Thanks Mark. I'll have to give that one a try to see if it solves my particular issue as that would be better than re-partitioning.

Regards,
Doug

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Can I use DOS programs that manipulate files on an HPFS partition that
is greater than 2gb in size?

I believe you can, as long as that program doesn't check for 'free
space' or anything about drive space. I have a OS2 TSR program
here that that I use that fools DOS programs into thinking there's
always 2gb or less space available.

Interesting. What is the name of that TRS program?

2GBFIX.COM





.....Bob

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2GBFIX.ZIP 10165 17-Nov-1998 ============================================== 2GBFIX is a workaround
for a problem that occurs in DOS and WIN-OS/2 sessions under OS/2
(and possibly other OSes that provide virtual DOS sessions) when you
have disks or partitions that exceed 2 GB (2048 MB) in size.

Thanks Mark. I'll have to give that one a try to see if it solves
my particular issue as that would be better than re-partitioning.

hopefully... otherwise, one might also create several large files to eat the space until the software worked properly... i've tried that, too... with 2gbfix
and the files, it worked for some but not all as i previously noted...

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Hello Doug!

07 Jun 12 08:18, Doug Mccomber wrote to mark lewis:

============================================== 2GBFIX is a
workaround for a problem that occurs in DOS and WIN-OS/2 sessions
under OS/2 (and possibly other OSes that provide virtual DOS
sessions) when you have disks or partitions that exceed 2 GB
(2048 MB) in size.

Thanks Mark. I'll have to give that one a try to see if it solves my particular issue as that would be better than re-partitioning.

If that doesn't work, SPACEHOG might. It actually fills the extra space with a
hidden file so that free space is <=2gb (no TSR req'd) and resizes the hidden file as necessary on subsequent runs. It is circa 2000, so don't know if it might choke on multi-terabyte drives.


.\\ike

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If that doesn't work, SPACEHOG might. It actually fills the extra
space with a hidden file so that free space is <=2gb (no TSR req'd)
and resizes the hidden file as necessary on subsequent runs. It is
circa 2000, so don't know if it might choke on multi-terabyte drives.

That's an interesting approach. But I'd have to "waste" 15gb.

Thanks,
Doug

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If that doesn't work, SPACEHOG might. It actually fills the extra
space with a hidden file so that free space is <=2gb (no TSR req'd)
and resizes the hidden file as necessary on subsequent runs. It is
circa 2000, so don't know if it might choke on multi-terabyte drives.

That's an interesting approach. But I'd have to "waste" 15gb.

this is what i also spoke of in my earlier post... but in my case, i created the file(s) manually because i needed to "waste" about 8G of space on a 12G drive...

as i recall, i had or created a 25M zip file which i simply copied together four times to make a 100M file... then i just copied that several times so that
i was loosing 100Meg of space each time... its a trash file anyway so doing this doesn't hurt anything and i still have the original which IS important...

if file.foo is 25M...

copy /b file.foo + file.foo + file.foo + file.foo file1.foo

then i could copy the 100M file1.foo 5 times, as above, for a .5G file... the thing i was looking at was also being able to delete them as the drive space was consumed and i needed more for the stuff that is 2G restricted... the most i would do via the above copying routine to create a large file would be a 1G file and then have several of them... just have to watch, as i say, when deleting because you don't want to delete too much and end up back over the 2G freespace line ;)

i've thinking of looking into the above mentioned spacehog tool... i knew there
was something else out there but couldn't remember what it was so i went with what i already knew how to do ;)

)\/(ark


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