• Mystic BBS Windows Server Wont Start

    From palkat72@gmail.com@3:770/3 to All on Sun Jan 21 09:56:42 2018
    I have setup and got working Mystic BBS for Windows v1112a38 how ever twice now
    it has after about a day stopped working. When I go to restart the server program its window will pop up for a quick 1/2 second then close. The nodespy will work, the config
    utility will work but not the actual "mis.exe SERVER".

    I have tried to replace the data, msgs, menus etc folders with backups of when it was working. I even tried to replace the mystic.dat file in the root folder with a working copy and still it wont work.

    I have found that I have to start with a fresh install of Mystic then copy over
    my data, msg, menus, logs folders along with the mystic.dat file then it will work like nothing happened.

    This is a pain so I would love to know if anyone knows what is causing my initial problem where the mis.exe program wont start the server all of a sudden.

    Currently I am running it on a windows 7 32bit environment, the first time this
    issue happened I was running it on a windows 10 64 bit environment for what that is worth.

    Thanks for ANY help!

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to palkat72@gmail.com on Sun Jan 21 12:40:02 2018
    Hello,

    On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:56:42 GMT, Palkat72 wrote:

    I have setup and got working Mystic BBS for Windows v1112a38 how ever
    twice now it has after about a day stopped working. When I go to restart the server program its window will pop up for a quick 1/2 second then close.  The nodespy will work, the config
    utility will work but not the actual "mis.exe SERVER".

    I have tried to replace the data, msgs, menus etc folders with backups
    of when it was working. I even tried to replace the mystic.dat file in
    the root folder with a working copy and still it wont work.

    I have found that I have to start with a fresh install of Mystic then
    copy over my data, msg, menus, logs folders along with the mystic.dat
    file then it will work like nothing happened.

    This is a pain so I would love to know if anyone knows what is causing
    my initial problem where the mis.exe program wont start the server all
    of a sudden.

    Currently I am running it on a windows 7 32bit environment, the first
    time this issue happened I was running it on a windows 10 64 bit environment for what that is worth.

    Thanks for ANY help!

    The fact that mis.exe is stopping at some point is a matter on it's own, and something should be mentioned in the logs as to why it shut down (try using debug loglevel).

    But as for restarting, if mis.exe is shut down unexpectedly, take a look for mis.bsy in your semaphore subdirectory and delete it before restarting.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Jeff Smith@1:282/1031 to palkat72@gmail.com on Sun Jan 21 14:43:38 2018
    Hello palkat72,

    Currently I am running it on a windows 7 32bit environment, the first time this issue happened I was running it on a windows 10 64 bit environment for what that is worth.

    First off, is Mystic and your OS both 32b or both 64b versions? Having them mismatched can cause functional issues.


    Jeff


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  • From Shane O'Neill@3:770/3 to Jeff Smith on Sun Jan 21 14:32:26 2018
    On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 2:26:18 PM UTC-7, Jeff Smith wrote:
    Hello palkat72,

    Currently I am running it on a windows 7 32bit environment, the first time this issue happened I was running it on a windows 10 64 bit environment for what that is worth.

    First off, is Mystic and your OS both 32b or both 64b versions? Having them mismatched can cause functional issues.


    Jeff

    Jeff,

    When I had it setup on the Windows 10 64bit environment I did use the 64bit version of Mystic. As for the current windows 7 32bit environment it is currently running on I am now using the 32bit version of Mystic. Both versions
    were the very latest
    alpha from Jan 1 2018.

    Shane.

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  • From Shane O'Neill@3:770/3 to Nicholas Boel on Sun Jan 21 14:34:08 2018
    On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:54:06 AM UTC-7, Nicholas Boel wrote:
    Hello,

    On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:56:42 GMT, Palkat72 wrote:

    I have setup and got working Mystic BBS for Windows v1112a38 how ever twice now it has after about a day stopped working. When I go to restart the server program its window will pop up for a quick 1/2 second then close.  The nodespy will work, the config
    utility will work but not the actual "mis.exe SERVER".

    I have tried to replace the data, msgs, menus etc folders with backups
    of when it was working. I even tried to replace the mystic.dat file in the root folder with a working copy and still it wont work.

    I have found that I have to start with a fresh install of Mystic then copy over my data, msg, menus, logs folders along with the mystic.dat file then it will work like nothing happened.

    This is a pain so I would love to know if anyone knows what is causing
    my initial problem where the mis.exe program wont start the server all
    of a sudden.

    Currently I am running it on a windows 7 32bit environment, the first time this issue happened I was running it on a windows 10 64 bit environment for what that is worth.

    Thanks for ANY help!

    The fact that mis.exe is stopping at some point is a matter on it's own, and something should be mentioned in the logs as to why it shut down (try using debug loglevel).

    But as for restarting, if mis.exe is shut down unexpectedly, take a look for mis.bsy in your semaphore subdirectory and delete it before restarting.

    Regards,
    Nick

    Nick,

    Thank you for the response and great info, next time it happens I will try looking for the "mis.bsy" and delete it and see if that will let the mis.exe run then. Will let ya know.....now the waiting period for it to crash again! LOL

    Shane.

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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Shane O'Neill on Mon Jan 22 18:17:54 2018
    On 01/21/18, Shane O'Neill pondered and said...

    But as for restarting, if mis.exe is shut down unexpectedly, take a look mis.bsy in your semaphore subdirectory and delete it before restarting.

    Regards,
    Nick


    Nick,

    Thank you for the response and great info, next time it happens I will
    try looking for the "mis.bsy" and delete it and see if that will let the mis.exe run then. Will let ya know.....now the waiting period for it to crash again! LOL

    I agree with Nick, and he's spot on with the semaphore likely to be your current issue in getting it restarted.

    Best, Paul


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  • From Shane O'Neill@3:770/3 to Nicholas Boel on Sun Jan 21 20:41:13 2018
    On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 11:54:06 AM UTC-7, Nicholas Boel wrote:
    Hello,

    On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:56:42 GMT, Palkat72 wrote:

    I have setup and got working Mystic BBS for Windows v1112a38 how ever twice now it has after about a day stopped working. When I go to restart the server program its window will pop up for a quick 1/2 second then close.  The nodespy will work, the config
    utility will work but not the actual "mis.exe SERVER".

    I have tried to replace the data, msgs, menus etc folders with backups
    of when it was working. I even tried to replace the mystic.dat file in the root folder with a working copy and still it wont work.

    I have found that I have to start with a fresh install of Mystic then copy over my data, msg, menus, logs folders along with the mystic.dat file then it will work like nothing happened.

    This is a pain so I would love to know if anyone knows what is causing
    my initial problem where the mis.exe program wont start the server all
    of a sudden.

    Currently I am running it on a windows 7 32bit environment, the first time this issue happened I was running it on a windows 10 64 bit environment for what that is worth.

    Thanks for ANY help!

    The fact that mis.exe is stopping at some point is a matter on it's own, and something should be mentioned in the logs as to why it shut down (try using debug loglevel).

    But as for restarting, if mis.exe is shut down unexpectedly, take a look for mis.bsy in your semaphore subdirectory and delete it before restarting.

    Regards,
    Nick

    So it happened again, this time I was actually in the server window and hit the
    ESC key and confirmed yes SHUT DOWN. It shut down like normal but would not start backup. I then went into the semaphore folder per your suggestion and did delete the mis.
    bsy and then it DID start back up. Thank you for that!

    After I got the server to run again I did shut it down two more times with no issue and each time I notice it did NOT leave behind the mis.bsy file. So why sometimes does it leave it behind?

    I did set my logging level to 3 also. Below is a sample of the MIS log and you will notice between the two log entry's that when I shut down the server at + 2018.01.21 21:14:00 (this is the time I saw on my clock I shut it down) there is no "Event system
    stopped", "Manager shutdown complete" entry. How ever the second part of the attached log you will see after I got the server to start again (deleting the mis.bsy) then I shut it down right away it did log the "Event system stopped", "Manager shutdown
    complete" were shut down. I was also able to restart and shut down a few more times after with no issue.

    .....I hope that all makes sense....

    -=-=-=-=-=-=[ LOG FILE SNIPPET ]=-=-=-=-=-=-

    --------------------- Mystic v1.12 A38 2018/01/01 Sun, Jan 21 2018 (loglevel 3)
    + 2018.01.21 15:48:35 MANAGER Starting event system
    + 2018.01.21 15:48:35 MANAGER Starting 1 server(s)
    + 2018.01.21 15:48:35 TELNET Listening on IPV4 port 6502 using interface "0.0.0.0"
    + 2018.01.21 15:48:35 TELNET Listening on IPV6 port 6502 using interface "::" + 2018.01.21 15:48:35 EVENT Starting 0 event(s)
    + 2018.01.21 15:48:35 SENDMAILStarted. Relaying to: mail.***********.com
    + 2018.01.21 15:49:46 TELNET > Connect on slot 1/5
    + 2018.01.21 15:49:46 TELNET 1-Address ***********
    + 2018.01.21 15:49:46 TELNET 1-HostName ***********.net
    + 2018.01.21 15:49:46 TELNET 1-Creating terminal process
    + 2018.01.21 15:50:07 TELNET 1-Closing terminal process
    + 2018.01.21 18:14:55 TELNET > Connect on slot 1/5
    + 2018.01.21 18:14:55 TELNET 1-Address ***********
    + 2018.01.21 18:14:55 TELNET 1-HostName ***********.net
    + 2018.01.21 18:14:55 TELNET 1-Creating terminal process
    + 2018.01.21 18:15:09 TELNET 1-Closing terminal process

    --------------------- Mystic v1.12 A38 2018/01/01 Sun, Jan 21 2018 (loglevel 3)
    + 2018.01.21 21:15:09 MANAGER Starting event system
    + 2018.01.21 21:15:09 MANAGER Starting 1 server(s)
    + 2018.01.21 21:15:09 TELNET Listening on IPV4 port 6502 using interface "0.0.0.0"
    + 2018.01.21 21:15:09 TELNET Listening on IPV6 port 6502 using interface "::" + 2018.01.21 21:15:10 EVENT Starting 0 event(s)
    + 2018.01.21 21:15:10 SENDMAILStarted. Relaying to: mail.***********.com
    + 2018.01.21 21:15:51 MANAGER Server shutdown received from console
    + 2018.01.21 21:15:51 MANAGER Shutdown: EVENT
    + 2018.01.21 21:15:51 MANAGER Shutdown: SENDMAIL
    + 2018.01.21 21:15:51 MANAGER Shutdown: TELNET
    + 2018.01.21 21:15:51 MANAGER Waiting for servers to stop (up to 60 seconds)
    + 2018.01.21 21:15:51 SENDMAILShutting down
    + 2018.01.21 21:15:51 EVENT Event system stopped
    + 2018.01.21 21:15:52 MANAGER Shutdown complete

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  • From robert wolfe@1:116/18 to palkat72@gmail.com on Mon Jan 22 15:05:34 2018
    On 01/21/18, palkat72@gmail.com said the following...

    Currently I am running it on a windows 7 32bit environment, the first
    time this issue happened I was running it on a windows 10 64 bit environment for what that is worth.

    Have you considered running the 64-bit version of Mystic, then?

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  • From Shane O'Neill@3:770/3 to robert wolfe on Mon Jan 22 14:07:51 2018
    On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 2:35:30 PM UTC-7, robert wolfe wrote:
    On 01/21/18, palkat72@gmail.com said the following...

    Currently I am running it on a windows 7 32bit environment, the first time this issue happened I was running it on a windows 10 64 bit environment for what that is worth.

    Have you considered running the 64-bit version of Mystic, then?

    Robert, the first couple times it happened to me it was the Mystic 64bit version running on Win 10 64bit.

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