list your top five

1. Goldfrapp Supernature
2. Erasure Nightbird
3. Depeche Mode Playing The Angel
4. Bodies Without Organs Prototype
5. Gorillaz Demon Days

Wow! Listing the (my) five best would be hard...because 2005 was such a terrible year for meaningful and/or REAL and good music.

I like your picks of Depeche Mode and Gorillaz, sure 'nuff.

All I can think of is NIN for 2005, past them.
Velvet Revolver was a cool reinvent too, if they qualify for 2005.

I just hate the "American Idolization" of American music.
We need a early '90's kind of kick in the butt again.
Cobain kicked us out of hair bands...someone/something needs to kick us
out of this terrible period.

Of course here are still people listening to whatever they want/too
their faves (meaning there are still the punks and metal heads), but I appreciated the early '90's period when MTV actually played videos, for instance. All kinds of videos! And those videos were good! SOMETHING!
Something hard!

What can I say. I need something hard!

Don't go there! ;) You know what I mean! Grrrrrr
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Cindy,

First, I'd like to say hello and introduce myself. I'm Sean, the moderator of MUSIC. :) I've been absent for too long of a time.

Second, about your post...

*** Quoting CINDY VANWAGENEN from a message to MATT MUNSON ***

I like your picks of Depeche Mode and Gorillaz, sure 'nuff.

At least "Playing The Angel" is getting back to DM's roots. I absolutely detested anything they've put out (new releases, not the CD sets) after "Violator".

early '90's kind of kick in the butt again. Cobain kicked us out of
hair bands...someone/something needs to kick us out of this terrible period.

Grunge is still very popular in the Pacific Northwest, I understand (lived in Portland for years). In fact, Nirvana just released another CD called "The Best Of The Box" (I think they just released it; could be very wrong and probably am!).

What can I say. I need something hard!

You really shouldn't say that in public; people might think bad things of you.
<G> But I know what you meant though.

Later,
Sean

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First, I'd like to say hello and introduce myself. I'm Sean, the SD>moderator of MUSIC. :) I've been absent for too long of a time.

Hi. And thank you for the info. Being new and all.

I've been on local Cit boards for a little while, but I'm new to
FIDOnet, BTW.

A girl friend told me that FIDOnet is good for more in depth "stuff". Obviously because of the ability to collect ones' thoughts before
posting (What with OLRs and such compared to "at the moment" offerings).
I agree.

<snipped for brevity>

early '90's kind of kick in the butt again. Cobain kicked us out
of hair bands...someone/something needs to kick us out of this
terrible period.

Grunge is still very popular in the Pacific Northwest,

Really?

I still have my Grunge C.D.s, of course. And I'll always keep them.
(But I simply was talking 2005 being the topic)

In fact, Nirvana just released
another CD called "The Best Of The Box" (I think they just released
it; could be very wrong and probably am!).

After a major fight, the actual members of Nirvana vs. Courtney Love
finally agreed to allowing the release of older stuff, 'tis true.
And that could have been in 2005. Not sure.

And I'm NOT all Grunge! That was but an example.
I'm more/most into anything (again) HARD!

Although I can appreciate the Cranberries or Toad the Wet Sprocket
mellow stuff. OR Gordon Lightfoot or Cat Stevens, etc. I like mellow
good stuff too. But that stuff is for bubble baths and candles.

I loves me some early TOOL (actually any Tool), and Nine Inch Nails, and...well, you get the picture. Or even early Black Sabbath.

Oh well, enough repeating myself.
I'll try to offer differing topics soon. ;)

What can I say. I need something hard!

You really shouldn't say that in public; people might think bad
things of you. <G>

I DID offer a proviso, didn't I? Hee!

PEACE!
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Hello, Cindy!

*** Quoting CINDY VANWAGENEN from a message to SEAN DENNIS ***

Hi. And thank you for the info. Being new and all.

Well, you're more than welcome here. I had to leave Fidonet for a while (not by choice) and finally was able to get back in here. I've been a member of Fidonet (as a sysop) since 1998.

Obviously because of the ability to collect ones' thoughts before posting (What with OLRs and such compared to "at the moment"
offerings). I agree.

Some boards you can do that also (like mine). I have several friends who use my board as a mailstop-they log in, download a nice fat mail packet, put it in their QWK editor and upload later. I've got other mail networks here, but mostly quiet ones (and one that I seem to have lost my uplink to!).

After a major fight, the actual members of Nirvana vs. Courtney Love finally agreed to allowing the release of older stuff, 'tis true.
And that could have been in 2005. Not sure.

Well, Courtney Love has kinda been having to negotiate-she lost that nice big house she had since she defaulted on the mortgage payments. Oops. Guess she could use the money from some CD sales. :>

Although I can appreciate the Cranberries or Toad the Wet Sprocket
mellow stuff. OR Gordon Lightfoot or Cat Stevens, etc. I like mellow
good stuff too. But that stuff is for bubble baths and candles.

Of course. I love "Sundown" by Gordon Lightfoot, actually, and the other "famous" song he's done (about a fishing boat)...can't remember the name now. Delores O'Rourdan was on VH1 recently as was the lead singer of TTWS. I do like TTWS also.

For me, it's mostly 80s stuff that I like-darkwave, electronica, et al. But I have an immense collection of various stuff here. I do like older country (80s
and earlier too) as well as rock of all stripes. One of my favorites is Depeche Mode, of course, but I do like Information Society (I have all of their
CDs and the single CD that the lead singer released on his own after the band officially split up) and several others. It all depends on my mood.

If you want, stop by my board sometime (the telnet address is in the origin line).

Later,
Sean

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Cindy,

*** Quoting CINDY VANWAGENEN from a message to SEAN DENNIS ***

A girl friend told me that FIDOnet is good for more in depth "stuff".

Do be careful about getting too "in depth". Sometimes in Fidonet you'll step in something you really wish you hadn't. ;)

BTW, I don't know if you can get netmail or not (best to ask your sysop). I've
got some comments about your statement above but they're off-topic in here.

Later,
Sean

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Obviously because of the ability to collect ones' thoughts
before posting (What with OLRs and such compared to "at the
moment" offerings). I agree.

Some boards you can do that also (like mine).

Seems I'm the ONLY person logging in to Bayman (this place I'm postin
from), not that I don't appreciate it. But I doubt any reliability.
So I'd could appreciate another board.

I have several friends
who use my board as a mailstop-they log in, download a nice fat mail SD>packet, put it in their QWK editor and upload later.

Well, my oh my, it's nice to see a person with a board that is cyber-
vocal.

And I can understand people doing a "hit and run"...that's what I like
to do! Again, because I like to write with collected thoughts. (I hate
chat, 'cause I can't type that fast. And it is intrusive sometimes.)
If you want to see your pals...go where your pals are posting, imo.

After a major fight, the actual members of Nirvana vs. Courtney
Love finally agreed to allowing the release of older stuff,
'tis true. And that could have been in 2005. Not sure.

Well, Courtney Love has kinda been having to negotiate-she lost that
nice big house she had since she defaulted on the mortgage payments. SD>Oops. Guess she could use the money from some CD sales. :>

Word!

Although I can appreciate the Cranberries or Toad the Wet
Sprocket mellow stuff. OR Gordon Lightfoot or Cat Stevens, etc.
I like mellow good stuff too. But that stuff is for bubble
baths and candles.

Of course. I love "Sundown" by Gordon Lightfoot, actually, and the
other "famous" song he's done (about a fishing boat)

The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. (sp?)
Yeah, he's cool mellow.

Delores O'Rourdan was on VH1 recently as was
the lead singer of TTWS. I do like TTWS also.

Todd was on VH1? Oh my GOD!
I don't watch Cable enough.
OUCH! Todd is SOOO hot, well...and so is Delores.

For me, it's mostly 80s stuff that I like-darkwave, electronica, et
al. But I have an immense collection of various stuff here. I do
like older country (80s

I have a hardcore pref, w/mellow overtones. ;)
(I HATE most punk though)
But past my dislike for punk, I have a pretty eclectic mix of faves.

I have everything from Bile to Dink to Cash and Dylan...and most grunge
and '90's rock to '60's rock and Rocky Horror to Hedwig. Plus some old
delta blues, ala Sonny Terry and Brownie Magee...etc.

One of my favorites is Depeche Mode, of course, but I do like
Information Society

If I had to pick...my fave band is Tool.
A Perfect Circle being part and parcel.

If you want, stop by my board sometime (the telnet address is in the SD>origin line).

I WILL do that!

You are obviously cool (and I need a back-up board).

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PEACE!
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A girl friend told me that FIDOnet is good for more in depth

"stuff".

Do be careful about getting too "in depth". Sometimes in Fidonet
you'll step in something you really wish you hadn't. ;)

I posted an offering in SKEPTIC (because I am one) and I haven't a bite!

BTW, I don't know if you can get netmail or not (best to ask your
sysop). I've got some comments about your statement above but
they're off-topic in here.

Send them to the SKEPTIC echo! Hee!
Some traffic is better than none.

I think the echo is dead.
To make the comments topical...just start with "I doubt that you
knew..."

DAMN I'm good!
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Hello, Cindy!

*** Quoting CINDY VANWAGENEN from a message to SEAN DENNIS ***

So I'd could appreciate another board.

You're welcome at any time. I keep getting more callers; maybe I should activate the local boards more. ;)

My board is now available via dialup too. Don't get a lot of use from it, but a few int'l calls, etc.

Well, my oh my, it's nice to see a person with a board that is cyber- vocal.

It's amazing to see a board that's active period, let alone mine, heh.

like to do! Again, because I like to write with collected thoughts.
(I hate chat, 'cause I can't type that fast. And it is intrusive sometimes.) If you want to see your pals...go where your pals are
posting, imo.

Yep. I have to stop my habit of getting mad and shooting off a response-not always the best thing to do. As for my friends, well, they're all logging into
my board now. <G>

The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. (sp?) Yeah, he's cool mellow.

Yes, that's it.

Todd was on VH1? Oh my GOD! I don't watch Cable enough. OUCH! Todd
is SOOO hot, well...and so is Delores.

:) They were on "I Love the 90s", IIRC. We like to watch the "I Love" series,
even over and over. Still funny every time.

I have everything from Bile to Dink to Cash and Dylan...and most
grunge and '90's rock to '60's rock and Rocky Horror to Hedwig. Plus
some old delta blues, ala Sonny Terry and Brownie Magee...etc.

Sounds very encompassing. I've tried not to narrow down my tastes too much. There's some things I can't stand (rap being one of them), but I tolerate nearly everything. After being a deejay both in radio stations and clubs, you learn to tune out things you don't like and concentrate on getting to the good stuff. I used to beat match a lot when someone'd request a song I detested, so
I started playing it and halfway through, I'd beat match it with something I liked and there we go.

You do know what beat matching is? :)

If I had to pick...my fave band is Tool. A Perfect Circle being part
and parcel.

I haven't listened to them enough to judge anything by them. I do know they're
quite popular though. My friend's a Tool fan.

Speaking of fan, I'm going to go buy the new DM CD today. I've heard enough of
it to where the CD belongs on my shelf now. Of course, I'll rip it and immediately put it into my MP3 list.

You are obviously cool (and I need a back-up board).

Thank you for the kind words. I'm sure there's plenty of people in here that might disagree with you <G>, but you're welcome here any time. I do not have a
web-based interface on my BBS, so you'll need to have a telnet client to get in. I am on a fast connection (and if this job I'm hoping to get comes through, I'll be going from a home cable connection to a business connection, which effectively quadruples my speed) and try to keep the board up reliably.

If you do call, let me know who you are in the new user letter and I'll see to it you get hooked up.

Later,
Sean

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Cindy,

*** Quoting CINDY VANWAGENEN from a message to SEAN DENNIS ***

I posted an offering in SKEPTIC (because I am one) and I haven't a
bite!

It's dead, probably. Go to HOLYSMOKE or FLAME. That oughta be your speed there, heh. Those echoes are notorious for...well, you have to just see. :)

Later,
Sean

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I have everything from Bile to Dink to Cash and Dylan...and most
grunge and '90's rock to '60's rock and Rocky Horror to Hedwig.
Plus some old delta blues, ala Sonny Terry and Brownie
Magee...etc.

Sounds very encompassing. I've tried not to narrow down my tastes
too much. There's some things I can't stand (rap being one of
them), but I tolerate nearly everything.

I like Rage Against The Machine and House of Pain...both not being
"real" rap, I guess. (Both kind of date me)

True rap...I don't like. It's lame beats with dumb lyrics about
"bitches" and "ho's" and "gangsta life". I don't know how that crap is positive in Black American culture. It's creating thugs!
Bragging about pimpin' is pretty "ignant" too, YO! Hee!

You do know what beat matching is? :)

No. I'm not a club person. I like live music.

If I had to pick...my fave band is Tool. A Perfect Circle being
part and parcel.

I haven't listened to them enough to judge anything by them. I do
know they're quite popular though. My friend's a Tool fan.

Tool has gotten a tad "spiritual" (and that's bad, IMO) but I still like
them. Their first outings where the best, OMO (Opiate and Undertow).

You are obviously cool (and I need a back-up board).

Thank you for the kind words. I'm sure there's plenty of people in
here that might disagree with you <G>, but you're welcome here any
time. I do not have a

web-based interface on my BBS, so you'll need to have a telnet client
to get in.

I do all my stuff via telnet.

I messed up the last time and forgot to write down your site addy
though.
(I had several things going at once)
I'll go on tonight.

If you do call, let me know who you are in the new user letter and
I'll see to it you get hooked up.

Great!
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I posted an offering in SKEPTIC (because I am one) and I haven't
a bite!

It's dead, probably. Go to HOLYSMOKE or FLAME.

I ain't into flame wars, so FLAME is out!
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Cindy,

*** Quoting CINDY VANWAGENEN from a message to SEAN DENNIS ***

I like Rage Against The Machine and House of Pain...both not being
"real" rap, I guess. (Both kind of date me)

Eh, you and I are probably about the same age then. :)

No. I'm not a club person. I like live music.

Well, beat matching is very simply getting two songs that are similar in beat patterns (rhythm) and while the first song is playing, cueing up the next song to where their rhythms match closely then fading out the first song.

I do all my stuff via telnet.

It's the only way to go. :>

Later,
Sean

P.S. BBS addy is in the origin line. :)

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Cindy,

*** Quoting CINDY VANWAGENEN from a message to SEAN DENNIS ***

I ain't into flame wars, so FLAME is out!

Don't go into HS either then. :>

Later,
Sean

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Hello, CINDY!
You wrote to SEAN DENNIS on Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:33:00 -0600:

I've been on local Cit boards for a little while, but I'm new to
FIDOnet, BTW.

A girl friend told me that FIDOnet is good for more in depth "stuff". Obviously because of the ability to collect ones' thoughts before
posting (What with OLRs and such compared to "at the moment"
offerings). I agree.

You are not limited to OLR's to access Fidonet. Here are some instructions
on how to use your favorite NEWSREADER to read Fidonet echomail:

=======================================================
Read and Post to Fidonet Message Echoes From Your Favorite NEWSREADER. =======================================================

Use your EXISTING
Outlook Express
Forte (Free)Agent
S & H News Rover
Mozilla Thunderbird
Others ...

* From Anywhere

* No Massive Message Control Lines

* Messages Are 100% Pure Fidonet, Are NOT Gated To Or From Internet
Newsgroups Or Other Networks.

To GET STARTED....

[1] Configure your newsreader (or Internet Explorer too!) to point to:

hub2000.darktech.org

[2] Use port 10119

[3] No logon (no name, no password) required! Just setup anonymously.

Then try it! If you followed the instructions properly, your newsreader
will automatically list the following newsgroup:

+GETACCESS+

The +GETACCESS+ newsgroup contains further instructions on how to complete
your setup
and registration with the BBS.

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On or about 01-27-06 09:28, Sean Dennis allegedly uttered "Re: Best Music of 2005" to CINDY VANWAGENEN:

I have everything from Bile to Dink to Cash and Dylan...and most
grunge and '90's rock to '60's rock and Rocky Horror to Hedwig. Plus
some old delta blues, ala Sonny Terry and Brownie Magee...etc.

Sounds very encompassing. I've tried not to narrow down my tastes too much. There's some things I can't stand (rap being one of them),

OK, I'm late to to topic to be *sure*, but I'm starting in on a 300 message backlog here. (Heck, it's only been *half* a decade ago! B-)

To the topic of rap I've liked: (Not much, I assure you.)

N.E.R.D. More a crossover of electronic and spoken words, but these kids impressed me as being smart and punctual.

One song called Can I Get A... A conglomerate of artists, I can't imagine who it was released under, but I think Jay Z and Ja Rule were prominent.

Grand Master Flash And The Furious Five - The Message. The start of it all? <G+D>

Besides one from Belgium - I believe - (I hear it on a station that seems exempt from announcing any artists and titles.) that just about concludes my list of "spoken word" "artists".

If I had to pick...my fave band is Tool. A Perfect Circle being part
and parcel.

I haven't listened to them enough to judge anything by
them. I do know they're quite popular though. My
friend's a Tool fan.

Cindy sounds like a pistol! Is she still about? I have a Tool CD in the van right now. It doesn't see much airtime, as I've got too many interesting radio stations to listen to. #1 used to be publicly funded, and now run as a "user supported" venture, like PBS TV campaign drives. (ckua.com) They've been getting a little fluffy over the past few years, but a few of their djs are spectacular. #2 Aboriginal Voices Radio, where I hear some interesting foreign contemporary and traditional "native" tunes. (Google the name, but they didn't have a stream online last I checked.)

Speaking of fan, I'm going to go buy the new DM CD today.
I've heard enough of it to where the CD belongs on my
shelf now. Of course, I'll rip it and immediately put it
into my MP3 list.

Dutch Mason, or Dave Matthews? (I think Dutch is dead, so can I presume??? ;-) Early Matthews Band was a staple for me! Carter Brufurd (SP?) was like a breath of fresh air to me.



... James
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