I have been trying to find out if my mail is getting out. I haven't had
any luck with posting here. If anyone sees this please let me know. Muffin arrives fine I just cannot seem to send out echomail


Thanks
Michele Marie Dalene


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"Michele Marie Dalene -> All" <1:142/7176> wrote in news:3225$fido.muffin@JamNNTPd:

I have been trying to find out if my mail is getting out. I haven't had any luck with posting here. If anyone sees this please let
me know. Muffin arrives fine I just cannot seem to send out echomail

i guess the arrival of this reply would indicate that you've been successful
;)

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Hello Michele.

18 Aug 07 18:57, you wrote to all:

@MSGID: 1:142/7176.0 46c77942
I have been trying to find out if my mail is getting out. I haven't had any luck with posting here. If anyone sees this please let
me know. Muffin arrives fine I just cannot seem to send out echomail

Thanks
Michele Marie Dalene

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SEEN-BY: 5/0 1 2 3 4 6 140/1 7105/0
@PATH: 142/7176 928 106/1 123/500 140/1 7105/1

Well, this one got here ....

Russell

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* Origin: Rusty's BBS - Bloemfontein, Free State, South Africa (5:7105/1)

i guess the arrival of this reply would indicate that
you've been successful
;)

Well it isn't quite right. but its not my end that is hosed. My uplink's dearchiver which had worked for ages with my mailer got ILL and was gagging on ARC packets. yet it would make them fine so my system got the downfeeds but my upfeeds were not going out. He is working to fix that to be in
compliance with Fidonet Policies as a hub he is kinda stuck as he hubs for almost all of 1:142.

our Linux port of Squish has problems though. as I explained in another message. I will summarize it here.
he asked me to try packing a netmail as zip. I went into squish.cfg and defined Pack zip 1:142/928
saved the file and sent him a netmail. to my Dismay it used ARC anyway! even though zip was defined in compress.cfg

Looking at compress config and seeing zip was in all caps I changed the line to:
Pack ZIP 1:142/928
No good! it didn't work either! it still made a ARC packet.

Has anyone else had this problem with the Linux port of Squish? What was the solution?

Lastly the Secure verb in squish.cfg doesn't work. it does not enforce strict password checking as it should.

So yes I am getting out but the Linux team still has to fix a few things as does my uplink.

Michele Marie Dalene


--- Maximus/UNIX 3.03b
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Well, this one got here ....

Russell

Thanks. Turns out the problem was indeedly at my uplink. Seems we have got it worke dout for now.

Michele Marie Dalene


--- Maximus/UNIX 3.03b
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Lastly the Secure verb in squish.cfg doesn't work. it
does not enforce strict password checking as it should.

So yes I am getting out but the Linux team still has
to fix a few things as does my uplink.

I think you're better off running Maximus under a DOS/NT/W2k[+3]/XP VMware VM for Linux.


--- Maximus/2 3.01
* Origin: Top Hat 2 BBS (1:343/41)

Hello Michele.

21 Aug 07 23:11, you wrote to me:

Well, this one got here ....

Russell

Thanks. Turns out the problem was indeedly at my uplink. Seems we have
got it worke dout for now.

Nice to hear ...

Enjoy!!

Russell

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: Rusty's BBS - Bloemfontein, Free State, South Africa (5:7105/1)

to fix a few things as does my uplink.

I think you're better off running Maximus under a
DOS/NT/W2k[+3]/XP VMware VM for Linux.

I tried that as an expirement in the past. Running Maximus under Dosemu. Had problems with the Dos Squish. I don't exactly remember what the problem was but
I do remember it was a show stopper. However running Maximus/squish under a true MSDOS environment worked well. I am considering that here but... I need to
get a stick of sdram for the boxen that I am considering for this task.
Until then I am glad to just see my uplink has worked around the problem.
Michele Marie Dalene


--- Maximus/UNIX 3.03b
* Origin: Planet Maca's Opus (860)618-3091 (1:142/7176)

to fix a few things as does my uplink.

I think you're better off running Maximus under a
DOS/NT/W2k[+3]/XP VMware VM for Linux.

I tried that as an expirement in the past. Running
Maximus under Dosemu. Had problems with the Dos
Squish. I don't exactly remember what the problem was
but I do remember it was a show stopper. However
running Maximus/squish under a true MSDOS environment
worked well. I am considering that here but... I need
to get a stick of sdram for the boxen that I am
considering for this task.
Until then I am glad to just see my uplink has
worked around the problem.

I'm clarifying that VMware is different to DOSEMU. Under VMware you can run real mode MS-DOS 6.22 or Win9x etc or OS/2. But if you enjoy the challenge of running the Linux port of Maximus go ahead. I think people who use Linux are a bunch of massochists :)

If you've got a box with 512 mb ram VMware should work well.


--- Maximus/2 3.01
* Origin: Top Hat 2 BBS (1:343/41)

Hello Michele.

23 Aug 07 08:11, you wrote to Mvan Le:

I think you're better off running Maximus under a
DOS/NT/W2k[+3]/XP VMware VM for Linux.

I tried that as an expirement in the past. Running Maximus under
Dosemu. Had problems with the Dos Squish. I don't exactly remember
what the problem was but I do remember it was a show stopper. However running Maximus/squish under a true MSDOS environment worked well. I
am considering that here but... I need to get a stick of sdram for the boxen that I am considering for this task.
Until then I am glad to just see my uplink has worked around
the problem.

Only one problem I have with a DOS based enviroment is that I need internet connectivity, telnet, ftp/ftpd, BinkD, ssh ... , :-(

Russell

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: Rusty's BBS - Bloemfontein, Free State, South Africa (5:7105/1)

Hi Michele

I think you're better off running Maximus under a
DOS/NT/W2k[+3]/XP VMware VM for Linux.

I tried that as an expirement in the past. Running Maximus under
Dosemu. Had problems with the Dos Squish. I don't
exactly remember what the problem was but I do
remember it was a show stopper. However running
Maximus/squish under a true MSDOS environment worked
well. I am considering that here but... I need to get
a stick of sdram for the boxen that I am considering
for this task.
Until then I am glad to just see my uplink
has worked around the problem.
Michele Marie Dalene

I'm wondering for another reason relative to running other than MAX DOS applications in WIN or LINUX, thus the additional question here. Which might be related to this for MAX as well.

Is there a difference between DOSEMU in LINUX and the, in theory,utility called
DOSBOX which is supposed to be a 'standardized' way to work with DOS on everything from OS/2 to LINUX to UNIX to WINwhatever to BEA and so on?

If DOSBOX is a different took than DOSEMU and DOSEMU isn't directly being worked on for WINwhatever and so on, then some of the expected issues relative to comm port use, old-time IRQ management, printing needs and file name/directory coordination might get solved faster and better, whatever that means, on an application development group effort than spans multiple O/S needs.

Thoughts and help here, anyone?

Sleep well; OS/2's still awake! ;)

Mike @ 1:117/3001

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* Origin: Ziplog Public Port (1:117/3001)

Is there a difference between DOSEMU in LINUX and the,
in theory,utility called DOSBOX which is supposed to be
a 'standardized' way to work with DOS on everything
from OS/2 to LINUX to UNIX to WINwhatever to BEA and so
on?

DOSBox is supposedly the latest and greatest DOS emulator under active development, and has been ported to various OSs including Windows and MacOSX.

Nobody works on DOSEMU anymore, and frankly it's a pain in the ass.

If DOSBOX is a different took than DOSEMU and DOSEMU
isn't directly being worked on for WINwhatever and so
on, then some of the expected issues relative to comm
port use, old-time IRQ management, printing needs and
file name/directory coordination might get solved
faster and better, whatever that means, on an
application development group effort than spans
multiple O/S needs.

I imagine DOSBox works out-of-the-box with respect to IRQ etc. Anything is better than DOSEMU. DOSEMU sucks.

Thoughts and help here, anyone?

Andrew Clarke apparently got serial comport stuff working on it.

A couple of months ago Ryan de Laplante was considering migrating his Maximus BBS to DOSBox.

I use VMware, which doesn't have very workable graphics and/or sound emulation you want for any quality gaming experience.

--- Maximus/2 3.01
* Origin: Top Hat 2 BBS (1:343/41)

I'm clarifying that VMware is different to DOSEMU.
Under VMware you can run real mode MS-DOS 6.22 or Win9x
etc or OS/2. But if you enjoy the challenge of running
the Linux port of Maximus go ahead. I think people who
use Linux are a bunch of massochists :)

If you've got a box with 512 mb ram VMware should work well.

Well, being my servers are headless and run several other linux processes as well, and I don't do windows.... (sorry, I hate the things Microcoft came up with after Windows 3.11), My main console is a Imac G3/400 which I use MacSSH to login to the pinkrose.dhis.org server with. I will stick with the Linux port of Maximus/squish/Binkleyterm. Besides someone has to test/evaluate and point out bugs to the Linux porters of Maximus, if no one did... Nothing would get logged for repairs.
However... I have no problem using an older PC with 64MB of ram and Msdos 6.2.2 or DR-DOs to run a Dos version of Max/Squish and Binkleyterm. but I
don't quite now how to tie it with the 4 node Linux setup.


--- Maximus/UNIX 3.03b
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Hello Mike.

23 Aug 07 10:53, you wrote to Michele Marie Dalene:

If DOSBOX is a different took than DOSEMU and DOSEMU isn't directly
being worked on for WINwhatever and so on, then some of the expected issues relative to comm port use, old-time IRQ management, printing
needs and file name/directory coordination might get solved faster and better, whatever that means, on an application development group
effort than spans multiple O/S needs.

Dunno, the twice I attempted to get DOSBOX to work, it failed miserably here, but there is another virtual-machine system someone mentioned awhile back, not VmWare, not M$-Virtual PC, not bochs, not qemu, tho some have had decent results with it ... , want to try it sometime, when I find it again ... , and the problem is it comes very highly recommended ... <sigh>

Must remember to go looking for it ... ,

Russell

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: Rusty's BBS - Bloemfontein, Free State, South Africa (5:7105/1)

Only one problem I have with a DOS based enviroment is
that I need internet
connectivity, telnet, ftp/ftpd, BinkD, ssh ... , :-(

EXACTLY! I don't run binkd but the others are certainly an issue. I get echomail via Binkleyterm/linux Xe7 via POTS

Michele Marie Dalee


--- Maximus/UNIX 3.03b
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Hello Michele.

23 Aug 07 21:34, you wrote to me:

Only one problem I have with a DOS based enviroment is
that I need internet
connectivity, telnet, ftp/ftpd, BinkD, ssh ... , :-(

EXACTLY! I don't run binkd but the others are certainly an issue. I
get echomail via Binkleyterm/linux Xe7 via POTS

Most stuff that comes or goes dfrom here, goes via binkd, but ftp gets a whirl every now and then ... I connect to the Zimbabwe node using Binkley Term XE7 via POTS myself ...

Russell

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: Rusty's BBS - Bloemfontein, Free State, South Africa (5:7105/1)

However... I have no problem using an older PC
with 64MB of ram and Msdos 6.2.2 or DR-DOs to run a
Dos version of Max/Squish and Binkleyterm. but I don't
quite now how to tie it with the 4 node Linux setup.

You don't have to. Virtualisation reduces hardware compatibility issues.

You run MSDOS with Wfw 3.11 or DR-DOS or whatever under Linux using VMware.

You then set up virtual PCNet Ethernet NICs for telnet, ftp/ftpd, BinkD, ssh etc.

http://wiki.oldos.org/Windows/SetupWFWNetworkInVMWare

I wouldn't run Maximus under VMware DOS anyway. NetFoss and Netserial only work
under Win32, and the alternative is Netmodem which sucks.

But I think Synchronet for DOS under VM would work because it has its own TCP/IP servers.

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* Origin: Top Hat 2 BBS (1:343/41)

I think what is being missed here...
1. I don't have vmware
2. I believe in the KISS principle (Keep It Simple Sysop!)
3. Pinkrose.dhis.org (main bbs boxen) is only a Pentium 150 with 96MB of ram. and 50GB (approx) of SCSI storage.
4. I am on Social Security Disability therefore I cannot fix problems 1 and 3. Price of VMWARE/MSDOS/DRDOS and computer server replacement.

Now I DO have the extra hardware for this, just a little short on sdram though.
and I do have a PCNFS tcp/ip client as well as a packet driver and tcp/ip telnet client/ftp client. But... there is one thing I really don't have. SPACE!
I live in a tiny apartment. its only 264 Sq. ft and it is loaded. perhaps if someone creates a PKZIP for an apartment ;) I may have some room to finally slip in another working machine.
Michele Marie Dalene


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Re: Is anyone getting these messages?
By: Michele Marie Dalene to Mvan Le on Mon Aug 27 2007 01:38 pm

Price of VMWARE/MSDOS/DRDOS and computer server replacement.

Michele, VMWare Player is free for the download and there are various places
on the net where you can find a pre-built DOS image that will work with it.

g.

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Re: Is anyone getting these messages?
By: Gene Buckle to Michele Marie Dalene on Sun Sep 02 2007 07:42 pm

Price of VMWARE/MSDOS/DRDOS and computer server replacement.

Michele, VMWare Player is free for the download and there are various
places on the net where you can find a pre-built DOS image that will work with it.

VMWare Player will only run pre-built images, if I'm not mistaken. You can get VMware Server for free as well, which will allow you to create as many virtual machines as you want.

-- Daniel
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Re: Is anyone getting these messages?
By: Daniel Prather to Gene Buckle on Sun Sep 02 2007 10:40 pm

Re: Is anyone getting these messages?
By: Gene Buckle to Michele Marie Dalene on Sun Sep 02 2007 07:42 pm

Price of VMWARE/MSDOS/DRDOS and computer server replacement.

Michele, VMWare Player is free for the download and there are various places on the net where you can find a pre-built DOS image that will work with it.

VMWare Player will only run pre-built images, if I'm not mistaken. You can VMware Server for free as well, which will allow you to create as many virtu machines as you want.

You're right, the player will only run pre-built images. I mentioned that.
:) However, it's a much lighter-weight process than VMWare Server is. You could use Server to create the image for the Player though.

g.

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Re: Is anyone getting these messages?
By: Gene Buckle to Daniel Prather on Mon Sep 03 2007 04:47 pm

You're right, the player will only run pre-built images. I mentioned that. :) However, it's a much lighter-weight process than VMWare Server is. You could use Server to create the image for the Player though.

Yes, very true. It just sounded to me like the OP was talking about setting up their own image and such, and I was trying to point out that would be better achieved with VMware Server. But, you're right too. :)

-- Daniel
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