Are there any free VPN in Linux?

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Hello Erich!

02 Sep 21 10:19, you wrote to All:

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Are there any free VPN in Linux?

Like OpenVPN?

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Erich B. wrote to All <=-

Are there any free VPN in Linux?

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=free+linux+vpn


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Am 02.09.21 schrieb Erich B.@1:103/705 in LINUX:

Hallo Erich,

Are there any free VPN in Linux?

Many.

But as your question is not very specific, my answer is as well :)

What do you want to achieve?

Regards,
Anna

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Hello Erich!

02 Sep 2021 10:19, Erich B. wrote to All:

Are there any free VPN in Linux?

define free ?

yes fido.junc.eu is my own VPN server with my own CA, i dont see any problem with easy-rsa


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Hi Erich!

02 Sep 2021 10:19, from Erich B. -> All:

Are there any free VPN in Linux?

yes

IPSec, Wireguard and OpenVPN as just some examples.

CU, Ricsi

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El 2/9/21 a las 14:19, Erich B. escribió:

Are there any free VPN in Linux?

$ The Millionaire $
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openvpn
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Hello Fernando!

25 Sep 2021 19:59, Fernando Toledo wrote to Erich B.:

El 2/9/21 a las 14:19, Erich B. escribi||:

Are there any free VPN in Linux?

openvpn

or maybe TigerVNC, or Teamviewer

linux is nice :)


Regards Benny

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-={ 2021-09-27 01:07:57.892045537+00:00 }=-

Hey Benny!

linux is nice :)

+1

<Esc>:read /proc/version
Linux version 5.14.8 (root@bitskii) (gcc (GCC) 11.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.37) #1 SMP Sun Sep 26 22:12:48 UTC 2021

linux, like life, is good :)

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hello Maurice!

27 Sep 2021 01:07, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

<Esc>:read /proc/version
Linux version 5.14.8 (root@bitskii) (gcc (GCC) 11.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.37) #1 SMP Sun Sep 26 22:12:48 UTC 2021

linux, like life, is good :)

+1

yep, got it :)


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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-={ 2021-09-27 15:11:03.283396954+00:00 }=-

Hey Benny!

yep, got it :)

Why doesn't that surprise me? Speaking of which, have you managed to update glibc? I am still using 2.33 as we speak. I have a bootable 2.34 based rootfs but it is currently "officially" flakey. It will probably stay that way until just before glibc-2.35 is released (January-ish). :-/

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hi Benny,

On 2021-09-26 23:56:22, you wrote to Fernando Toledo:

El 2/9/21 a las 14:19, Erich B. escribi||:

Are there any free VPN in Linux?

openvpn

or maybe TigerVNC, or Teamviewer

Those aren't vpn ...

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Maurice!

27 Sep 2021 15:11, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

yep, got it :)

Why doesn't that surprise me?

+1

Speaking of which, have you managed to
update glibc?

no, i am lost behind gentoo :)

I am still using 2.33 as we speak.

same here, what does 2.34 do that cant wait ?

I have a bootable
2.34 based rootfs but it is currently "officially" flakey.

upgrading to much can break a system, so i keep amd64 in gentoo for stable ebuild atleast for @system ebuilds

It will probably stay that way until just before glibc-2.35 is released (January-ish). :-/

yes yes, needs more gentoo developpers to solve it :=)

recently i have created 3 gentoo ebuilds so fuglu 1.0.1 is now in ::fidonet overlay

small steps for me, but who did go to the moon for the simplfy ?


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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Hello Wilfred!

27 Sep 2021 18:02, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Benny Pedersen:

El 2/9/21 a las 14:19, Erich B. escribi||:

Are there any free VPN in Linux?

openvpn

or maybe TigerVNC, or Teamviewer

Those aren't vpn ...

VPN or not, TigerVNC, and Teamviewer is still secure commication

both is currently just brokken in gentoo sadly


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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-={ 2021-09-27 18:57:16.565265461+00:00 }=-

Hey Benny!

I am still using 2.33 as we speak.

same here, what does 2.34 do that cant wait ?

Totally break the new firefox-91 builds. seamonkey-2.53.9 works though so it isn't a total loss unless of course you *NEED* firefox, especially the esr source. Also firefox-91 claims that you won't be able to compile it on older systems. So far my experience seems to indicate the exact opposite. It is early though. Anyhow some people need firefox to properly stream from amazon and the such since seamonkey cannot - and more than likely every other gui browser except the google one (chrome or chromium or ?????).

i keep amd64 in gentoo for stable ebuild atleast for @system ebuilds

+1

I am in the process of upgrading three machines but am sticking with glibc-2.33 for more or less the same reasons as you. Two of them don't have gui's and seldom have a monitor and/or keyboard attached. The one I am replying to your msg, where Little Mikey's Brain resides, is a prime case.

<Esc>:read !/lib/libc.so.6
GNU C Library (GNU libc) release release version 2.33.
Copyright (C) 2021 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Compiled by GNU CC version 11.2.0.
libc ABIs: UNIQUE IFUNC ABSOLUTE
For bug reporting instructions, please see:
<https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/bugs.html>.

Works like a charm and will be easy to upgrade to glibc-2.34 if that day ever comes. Heck I might skip over it to glibc-2.35 ... in Febuary-ish that is.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hello Maurice!

27 Sep 2021 18:57, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

same here, what does 2.34 do that cant wait ?

Totally break the new firefox-91 builds.

seamonkey is firefox + thunderbird :)

seamonkey-2.53.9 works

its just silly it ads www to any url, so the hostname cant be found

2.53.8 does not do this shit

i still love mozilla not force https on all webpages, this is a job for webservers not for www clients, doh

though so it isn't a total loss unless of course you *NEED* firefox,

you need links with fb0 support :=)

especially the esr source. Also firefox-91 claims that you won't be
able to compile it on older systems.

i currently compile chromioum, it takes time, ebuild ask for 4GB ram, and 9GB harddisk space as minimum to compile it

i read in the source of it it drop compile with gcc, and uses clang to solve it, maybe on your os badly brokken ?

So far my experience seems to
indicate the exact opposite.

this happens

It is early though. Anyhow some people
need firefox to properly stream from amazon and the such since
seamonkey cannot - and more than likely every other gui browser except the google one (chrome or chromium or ?????).

would this be impossible in gopher:// ? :)

i keep amd64 in gentoo for stable ebuild atleast for @system ebuilds

+1

I am in the process of upgrading three machines but am sticking with glibc-2.33 for more or less the same reasons as you.

good

Two of them
don't have gui's and seldom have a monitor and/or keyboard attached.

ssh only ?

The one I am replying to your msg, where Little Mikey's Brain resides,
is a prime case.

+1

Compiled by GNU CC version 11.2.0.
libc ABIs: UNIQUE IFUNC ABSOLUTE
For bug reporting instructions, please see:
<https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/bugs.html>.

11.2.0 is still masked in gentoo, if thats matter for glibc

Works like a charm and will be easy to upgrade to glibc-2.34 if that
day ever comes. Heck I might skip over it to glibc-2.35 ... in Febuary-ish that is.

if odd or even is something from 1970 ? ;)

Life is good,
Maurice

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One does well to keep a friend on every road.
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sorry if my msg here mess up, my asus pn50 is under load :=)


Regards Benny

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-={ 2021-09-27 22:20:07.332024447+00:00 }=-

Hey Benny!

you need links with fb0 support :=)

Not for streaming since it won't work without backup from mplayer. If so I'd just use mplayer without the browser and "-vo fbdev2" which will work with kernel drm drivers such as inteldrmfb. On a half decent server that will more than likely to be astdrmfb and "-vo fbdev2" will work with that as well.

maybe on your os badly brokken ?

Then why do they (gcc and friends) work with glibc-2.33? They are all exactly the same source/versions I am using on moosile, which is what I am calling the latest glibc-2.34 based rootfs. Everthing other than glibc is exactly the same.

Also, if it can't be compiled with gcc and friends it ain't worth diddley-squat methinks. I see little good coming from the clang crowd. How about you?

would this be impossible in gopher:// ? :)

I've done it with ftpd on a wireless connection so I think it might be possible. However given the lack of client software it more than likely isn't worth the effort getting it to work. At least mplayer can handle ftp protocol whereas firefox is now a no-show. Oh well ... it was fun while it lasted.

ssh only ?

That and binkd. One of the other machines (no gui etc) is hosting the binkd connection for "Little Mikey's EuroPoint".

11.2.0 is still masked in gentoo, if thats matter for glibc

I think it is a bigger matter for the kernel version but there are patches for gcc-10 (possibly other versions) to bring them into sync with linux-5.12 and newer.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Distant lands are best sought by one who is worthy in himself.
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Hello Maurice!

27 Sep 2021 22:20, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

you need links with fb0 support :=)

Not for streaming since it won't work without backup from mplayer. If
so I'd just use mplayer without the browser and "-vo fbdev2" which
will work with kernel drm drivers such as inteldrmfb. On a half
decent server that will more than likely to be astdrmfb and "-vo
fbdev2" will work with that as well.

i have never seen this in real life yet only the links -g http://localhost :)

and my mini is now live http://tux.junc.eu/phpsysinfo/

i still plan on make the husky github build on this, so i can finaly drop sf.net cvs read only problem

maybe on your os badly brokken ?

Then why do they (gcc and friends) work with glibc-2.33? They are all exactly the same source/versions I am using on moosile, which is what
I am calling the latest glibc-2.34 based rootfs. Everthing other than glibc is exactly the same.

if glibc is only tested with specifik gcc versions, it will give problems if its changes on newer gcc version not tested, unless c code is specifik say we only want that compiler options, and the gcc does not change this option in a incompatibel way

Also, if it can't be compiled with gcc and friends it ain't worth diddley-squat methinks. I see little good coming from the clang
crowd. How about you?

i just use python :=)

would this be impossible in gopher:// ? :)

I've done it with ftpd on a wireless connection so I think it might be possible. However given the lack of client software it more than
likely isn't worth the effort getting it to work. At least mplayer
can handle ftp protocol whereas firefox is now a no-show. Oh well ...
it was fun while it lasted.

if it cant be shared with gopher its not worth of shareing :=)

ssh only ?

That and binkd. One of the other machines (no gui etc) is hosting the binkd connection for "Little Mikey's EuroPoint".

any news of the termux ?

would be nice if unstalling that app creates a exported tarball of that jail, so it can be imported on another termux device, should be no magic there

unless debian fucked apt-get :)

11.2.0 is still masked in gentoo, if thats matter for glibc

I think it is a bigger matter for the kernel version but there are patches for gcc-10 (possibly other versions) to bring them into sync
with linux-5.12 and newer.

good plan, more coffee for me now


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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-={ 2021-09-28 20:31:49.606867264+00:00 }=-

Hey Benny!

i still plan on make the husky github build on this, so i can
finaly drop sf.net cvs read only problem

Interesting. Personally I'm still doing things like this without any networking, ssh or otherwise.

it will give problems if its changes on newer gcc version not
tested

As we speak the biggest issue is the kernel version and as of today I'm returning to using 5.10 kernels for the two stable systems.

<Esc>:read /proc/version
Linux version 5.10.68 (root@heatsink) (gcc (GCC) 11.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.37) #1 SMP Sat Sep 25 05:57:04 UTC 2021

As you can see both gcc and binutils are the same versions as used on the "Linux version 5.14.8" was. Beats me if a glibc-2.34 based system would have fared any better. Maybe I'll try it soon but not today.

i just use python :=)

-1

Heathen bastard!!! You're starting to sound like a Debian developer. :::evil grin:::

if it cant be shared with gopher its not worth of shareing :=)

+1

Now you're sort of talking my language. I was never into gopher but maybe that could change?

any news of the termux ?

Not since getting binkd working. For the record I used clang to port it which I am not too proud to admit here. As far as I am concerned termux is the only decent app for Android based so-called smart devices. A gcc port would have been best.

unless debian fucked apt-get :)

Heh, heh. So far I haven't had any issues with it but I hardly ever use it. I'll send a msg from there later just to remind myself what still needs to be done. I definetly have the basics working.

good plan, more coffee for me now

I am just getting started after having my caffine booster shot.

Life is good,
Maurice

... Eaðe wis man mæg witan spell and eac secgan.
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Hello Maurice!

28 Sep 2021 20:31, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

i still plan on make the husky github build on this, so i can
finaly drop sf.net cvs read only problem

Interesting. Personally I'm still doing things like this without any networking, ssh or otherwise.

if you did the husky clang compile in termux it would be complete :=)

it will give problems if its changes on newer gcc version not
tested

As we speak the biggest issue is the kernel version and as of today
I'm returning to using 5.10 kernels for the two stable systems.

oh

<Esc>:read /proc/version
Linux version 5.10.68 (root@heatsink) (gcc (GCC) 11.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.37) #1 SMP Sat Sep 25 05:57:04 UTC 2021

not the gcc bugs there ?

or upgrade features :=)

As you can see both gcc and binutils are the same versions as used on
the "Linux version 5.14.8" was. Beats me if a glibc-2.34 based system would have fared any better. Maybe I'll try it soon but not today.

+1

i just use python :=)

-1

Heathen bastard!!! You're starting to sound like a Debian developer. :::evil grin:::

without python there would be no gentoo anyware

if it cant be shared with gopher its not worth of shareing :=)

+1

curl can du gopher://

Now you're sort of talking my language. I was never into gopher but maybe that could change?

yep see my server ?

any news of the termux ?

Not since getting binkd working. For the record I used clang to port
it which I am not too proud to admit here.

+1

As far as I am concerned
termux is the only decent app for Android based so-called smart
devices. A gcc port would have been best.

start createing it :)

unless debian fucked apt-get :)

Heh, heh. So far I haven't had any issues with it but I hardly ever
use it. I'll send a msg from there later just to remind myself what still needs to be done. I definetly have the basics working.

i know from mailling lists debian fix all kind of problems that is not a problem in the first place, eq make postfix chrooted so users ask why does postfix not work on debian ? :)

common answers is turn of chroot

good plan, more coffee for me now

I am just getting started after having my caffine booster shot.

and while i write here i try to get PXE server up with syslinux behind a unifi router, and a tftp server on synology nas

if it works its a feature outside of debian :=)


Regards Benny

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-={ 2021-09-29 00:38:40.303003244+00:00 }=-

Hey Benny!

if you did the husky clang compile in termux it would be complete

I didn't know there was one. I'll have a looksee later.

not the gcc bugs there ?
or upgrade features :=)

It has it all. :-/

Now that the 5.10.68 kernel is booted everything looks a tad more stable.

without python there would be no gentoo anyware

Are you bragging or complaining?

curl can du gopher://

That is news to me.

A gcc port would have been best.

start createing it :)

If it really mattered any I would. I see little value in any of that. But I still believe termux is the best thing I've seen on those devices.

and a tftp server

Speaking of streaming, mplayer will work with that. I am less confident about gopher.

Life is good,
Maurice

... Ne læt þu no unlofod þæt þu swytele ongite þæt licwyrðe sie.
Do not leave unpraised anything you know well to be worthy.
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Hello Maurice!

29 Sep 2021 00:38, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

if you did the husky clang compile in termux it would be complete

I didn't know there was one. I'll have a looksee later.

+1

if some make the husky.vim embedded editor it would be a dream :=)

not the gcc bugs there ?
or upgrade features :=)

It has it all. :-/

yep

Now that the 5.10.68 kernel is booted everything looks a tad more
stable.

5.10.68 is also current stable on gentoo

without python there would be no gentoo anyware

Are you bragging or complaining?

if i was there would be no fuglu on gentoo

curl can du gopher://

That is news to me.

+1

A gcc port would have been best.

start createing it :)

If it really mattered any I would. I see little value in any of
that. But I still believe termux is the best thing I've seen on
those devices.

gcc can be crosscompiled, so one does not need the mobilphone to do this, i do the same now here when my linux vps have not ram and harddisk space enough, shrug to linode :=)

and a tftp server

Speaking of streaming, mplayer will work with that. I am less
confident about gopher.

curl gopher://example.org/some.mp3.file.mp3 | mplayer

dont see why it could not make to work


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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-={ 2021-09-29 22:07:44.295750906+00:00 }=-

Hey Benny!

if some make the husky.vim embedded editor it would be a dream

Make it so. Personally I like the way I've been using it all these decades without the need/use of a .vim and it can easily be ported to any editor you care to use.

<Esc>:read !vim --version
VIM - Vi IMproved 8.2 (2019 Dec 12, compiled Aug 30 2021 01:51:48)
Included patches: 1-3337
Compiled by root@lilmikey
Huge version without GUI. Features included (+) or not (-):
+acl +file_in_path +mouse_urxvt -tag_any_white
+arabic +find_in_path +mouse_xterm -tcl
+autocmd +float +multi_byte +termguicolors +autochdir +folding +multi_lang +terminal -autoservername -footer -mzscheme +terminfo -balloon_eval +fork() +netbeans_intg +termresponse +balloon_eval_term -gettext +num64 +textobjects
-browse -hangul_input +packages +textprop ++builtin_terms +iconv +path_extra +timers
+byte_offset +insert_expand -perl +title
+channel +ipv6 +persistent_undo -toolbar
+cindent +job +popupwin +user_commands -clientserver +jumplist +postscript +vartabs
-clipboard +keymap +printer +vertsplit +cmdline_compl +lambda +profile +virtualedit +cmdline_hist +langmap -python +visual
+cmdline_info +libcall -python3 +visualextra
+comments +linebreak +quickfix +viminfo
+conceal +lispindent +reltime +vreplace
+cryptv +listcmds +rightleft +wildignore
+cscope +localmap -ruby +wildmenu
+cursorbind -lua +scrollbind +windows
+cursorshape +menu +signs +writebackup +dialog_con +mksession +smartindent -X11
+diff +modify_fname -sodium -xfontset
+digraphs +mouse -sound -xim
-dnd -mouseshape +spell -xpm
-ebcdic +mouse_dec +startuptime -xsmp
+emacs_tags -mouse_gpm +statusline -xterm_clipboard
+eval -mouse_jsbterm -sun_workshop -xterm_save
+ex_extra +mouse_netterm +syntax
+extra_search +mouse_sgr +tag_binary
-farsi -mouse_sysmouse -tag_old_static
system vimrc file: "/etc/vimrc"
user vimrc file: "$HOME/.vimrc"
2nd user vimrc file: "~/.vim/vimrc"
user exrc file: "$HOME/.exrc"
defaults file: "$VIMRUNTIME/defaults.vim"
fall-back for $VIM: "/usr/share/vim"
Compilation: gcc -c -I. -Iproto -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -Os -pipe -m64 -fPIC -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=1
Linking: gcc -Wl,--as-needed -o vim -lm -lncurses -lelf -lacl -lattr -ldl

It works as you can clearly see and has been for ages now. I have a version running on aarch64-unknown-linux-android (termux) and posted a msg to you here from there.

5.10.68 is also current stable on gentoo

I can definetly understand why.

curl gopher://example.org/some.mp3.file.mp3 | mplayer
dont see why it could not make to work

I believe you are correct and in the case of mplayer it claims to be able to handle gopher without the need for curl as it uses some ffmpeg lib in order to facillitate that accessibilty. I have yet to try it though and will probably have to set up a gopher server first, probably on wireless.

Life is good,
Maurice

... Wæra gehwylcum wislicu word gerisað, gleomen gied ond guman snyttro.
Wise words befit everyone; a song for a singer, wisdom for men.
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