• DAEMON MODE

    From Daryl Stout@1:218/700 to ALL on Sat Apr 19 11:21:19 2014
    I have IREX set to daemon mode, and to allow "unlisted systems" to
    connect.

    However, I'm getting reports of several who try to connect via BinkP,
    and they're getting a "connection refused" message.

    Am I missing something?? Or should I just have my nodelist entries
    entry of CM changed to MO??

    Daryl

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/701 to Daryl Stout on Sat Apr 19 12:38:08 2014
    Hello Daryl,

    On 19 Apr 14 11:21, Daryl Stout wrote to ALL:

    I have IREX set to daemon mode, and to allow "unlisted systems" to connect.

    However, I'm getting reports of several who try to connect via
    BinkP, and they're getting a "connection refused" message.

    Am I missing something?? Or should I just have my nodelist entries
    entry of CM changed to MO??

    If they're coming to you with the reports, ask them what binkp service they're using. There was just discussion in the MBSE echo of mbcico having to have an option set to force a link into binkp v1.0 mode for Irex connections otherwise there's errors. I think the same kind of stuff happens once in awhile using binkd to connect with Irex systems as well, but noone has pinpointed the real problem there.

    I move quite a bit of mail here, and use binkd. I've noticed that when I use the '-nd' option (no dupe mode) it tends to have iffy results with Irex connections. Instead, I disable that option and use the '-nr' option (non-reliable link) instead. Tends to work a lot better after I do that.

    I know it's not hard evidence, but hopefully that may help you in where to continue on with this. It has been reported and proven that Irex reports the wrong version of the binkp protocol, and other mailers have to adjust for that.
    While development on Irex has stopped (meaning it will probably never be "fixed", other mailers have taken that into consideration and worked around it,
    though sometimes specific options have to be set in the other mailer.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:218/700 to NICHOLAS BOEL on Sat Apr 19 18:10:58 2014
    Hello Daryl,

    Hi, Nicholas...

    If they're coming to you with the reports, ask them what binkp service they' NB>using. There was just discussion in the MBSE echo of mbcico having to have a NB>option set to force a link into binkp v1.0 mode for Irex connections otherwi NB>there's errors. I think the same kind of stuff happens once in awhile using NB>binkd to connect with Irex systems as well, but noone has pinpointed the rea NB>problem there.

    The main problem seems to be with systems who aren't in my node
    manager setup. Those that are, work just fine.

    As noted, I run it in BinkP mode, from ports 24554 to 24556 (some
    connects have to use a different port than the traditional one); plus, I
    went in, and told it to "accept connects from unlisted systems".

    I think I'll just notify my hubs to change my nodelist entry from CM
    to MO.

    Daryl

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/701 to Daryl Stout on Sun Apr 20 08:16:02 2014
    I think I'll just notify my hubs to change my nodelist entry from CM
    to MO.

    As far as I know, you should just add the MO flag. CM is Continuous Mail,
    which would still be true for your system, wouldn't it?

    MO is Mail Only. So it's basically saying you don't run a BBS there. If you
    do run a BBS, you probably don't want to use that flag.

    I believe in recent conversations in other echos, other mailers have been moving into the future while Irex has been left behind without updates. Problems are starting to arise in regards to that, but it seems most of those updated mailers have some sort of workaround in place to deal with Irex and other mailers that will never be updated in the future. People that don't connect with you all the time may not know that, though. So if they're trying to connect to you with something like mbcico and don't have the option set to deal with Irex connections, the connection will fail. Just an FYI for future reference, I suppose.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.71 to Daryl Stout on Sun Apr 20 14:32:58 2014

    On Sat, 19 Apr 2014, Daryl Stout wrote to NICHOLAS BOEL:

    I think I'll just notify my hubs to change my nodelist entry
    from CM to MO.

    ummm... those two flags are not exclusive of each others... if you don't want CM, then just remove it... MO means there is not BBS behind the mailer...

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:218/700 to NICHOLAS BOEL on Sun Apr 20 12:28:27 2014
    Nick...

    As far as I know, you should just add the MO flag. CM is Continuous Mail, NB>which would still be true for your system, wouldn't it?

    MO is Mail Only. So it's basically saying you don't run a BBS there. If you NB>do run a BBS, you probably don't want to use that flag.

    I am running the BBS, but even with changing IREX to "accept connects
    from unlisted nodes", and with ports 24554-24556 open in the router,
    folks are still getting "connect refused". I have no idea what else to
    do.

    I believe in recent conversations in other echos, other mailers have been NB>moving into the future while Irex has been left behind without updates. NB>Problems are starting to arise in regards to that, but it seems most of thos NB>updated mailers have some sort of workaround in place to deal with Irex and NB>other mailers that will never be updated in the future. People that don't NB>connect with you all the time may not know that, though. So if they're tryin NB>to connect to you with something like mbcico and don't have the option set t NB>deal with Irex connections, the connection will fail. Just an FYI for future NB>reference, I suppose.

    I was running Argus awhile back, when I had dial-up. But, since I
    don't have dial-up anymore, I don't use it. But, I may have to look at
    that to replace IREX for BinkP connects.

    One rarely sees a post from Charles Cruden, IREX's author,
    anymore...and while one can still register it through various websites,
    it's like any personal support is all but gone.

    Daryl

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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Daryl Stout on Sun Apr 20 22:58:00 2014
    Daryl Stout wrote to NICHOLAS BOEL <=-

    Hiya Daryl...


    As far as I know, you should just add the MO flag. CM is Continuous Mail,
    which would still be true for your system, wouldn't it?

    MO is Mail Only. So it's basically saying you don't run a BBS there. If you
    do run a BBS, you probably don't want to use that flag.

    I am running the BBS, but even with changing IREX to "accept connects from unlisted nodes", and with ports 24554-24556 open in the router,
    folks are still getting "connect refused". I have no idea what else to
    do.

    I believe in recent conversations in other echos, other mailers have been
    moving into the future while Irex has been left behind without updates.
    Problems are starting to arise in regards to that, but it seems most of
    hos
    updated mailers have some sort of workaround in place to deal with Irex and
    other mailers that will never be updated in the future. People that don't
    connect with you all the time may not know that, though. So if they're
    ryin
    to connect to you with something like mbcico and don't have the option set

    deal with Irex connections, the connection will fail. Just an FYI for
    uture
    reference, I suppose.

    I was running Argus awhile back, when I had dial-up. But, since I
    don't have dial-up anymore, I don't use it. But, I may have to look at that to replace IREX for BinkP connects.

    One rarely sees a post from Charles Cruden, IREX's author,
    anymore...and while one can still register it through various websites, it's like any personal support is all but gone.

    Last time I spoke to Charles I had the same issues. The 1000 node with server function is necessary to read the FD nodelist. I'm still having issues with it but I removed the CM flag and everything get's routed to me except for what I have in my node list. I'm still working on my FDNODE.CTL file but haven't had the time lately. According to Charles it should read a compiled nodelist to gather the INA address but it's not. :(

    I'll look a little deeper into my end. Send me a netmail and see what happens... and then post your log here..




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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/701 to Daryl Stout on Sun Apr 20 22:58:01 2014
    Hello Daryl,

    On 20 Apr 14 12:28, Daryl Stout wrote to NICHOLAS BOEL:

    As far as I know, you should just add the MO flag. CM is Continuous
    Mail, which would still be true for your system, wouldn't it?

    MO is Mail Only. So it's basically saying you don't run a BBS
    there. If you do run a BBS, you probably don't want to use that
    flag.

    I am running the BBS, but even with changing IREX to "accept
    connects from unlisted nodes", and with ports 24554-24556 open in the router, folks are still getting "connect refused". I have no idea what else to do.

    Adding a MO flag isn't the right thing to do, IMO. That's telling people there's no BBS running.
    If you care to have successful connections from unlisted nodes, maybe looking at another mailer would be an option for you?

    I was running Argus awhile back, when I had dial-up. But, since I
    don't have dial-up anymore, I don't use it. But, I may have to look at that to replace IREX for BinkP connects.

    Binkd is a great mailer, otherwise I hear FMail for Windows is pretty good too,

    and has more of a GUI configuration than binkd does, I believe.

    One rarely sees a post from Charles Cruden, IREX's author,
    anymore...and while one can still register it through various
    websites, it's like any personal support is all but gone.

    Which, IMO, is bullshit. You shouldn't make people pay for a product you're not

    going to support. Continued support is part of the reason you pay for a product. If you're not going to support it anymore, open source it, or sell it to someone who will continue to support it. That's just how I feel about it, anyways.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:218/700 to MARK LEWIS on Sun Apr 20 23:15:23 2014
    Mark,

    ummm... those two flags are not exclusive of each others... if you don't wan ML>CM, then just remove it... MO means there is not BBS behind the mailer...

    Marc Lewis is going to get with me, and come into the system remotely,
    and see if he can figure out what I'm doing wrong.

    But, with an unsettled and stormy weather pattern forecast for the
    upcoming week, I don't know when I'll be able to get that done.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:218/700 to NICHOLAS BOEL on Mon Apr 21 13:52:30 2014
    Nick...

    If you care to have successful connections from unlisted nodes, maybe lookin NB>at another mailer would be an option for you?

    I am considering Argus. Marc Lewis came into the system remotely, and
    noted I may have a CORRUPT EXE with IREX for Windows. You could NEVER
    get the system to save the entry "accept connects from unlisted
    systems". While you could do it in the same session...when you exited
    REXCFGW, and reloaded it, the paramenter was back to "NO".

    Binkd is a great mailer, otherwise I hear FMail for Windows is pretty good t NB>and has more of a GUI configuration than binkd does, I believe.

    One of my connects for QWK Networking gets the stuff transferred via
    FTP through IREX...the rest of them are via BinkP. If I could get it to
    where folks could connect to me, instead of my manually polling 4 times
    a day, that'd be great. I don't think Comcast is blocking the comport.

    Which, IMO, is bullshit. You shouldn't make people pay for a product you're NB>going to support. Continued support is part of the reason you pay for a NB>product. If you're not going to support it anymore, open source it, or sell NB>to someone who will continue to support it. That's just how I feel about it, NB>anyways.

    Agreed. I was lucky enough to be able to register it, but I think it
    was through one of the U.S. registration sites.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:218/700 to BILL MCGARRITY on Mon Apr 21 13:52:30 2014
    Bill...

    Last time I spoke to Charles I had the same issues. The 1000 node with serv BM>function is necessary to read the FD nodelist. I'm still having issues with BM>but I removed the CM flag and everything get's routed to me except for what BM>have in my node list. I'm still working on my FDNODE.CTL file but haven't h BM>the time lately. According to Charles it should read a compiled nodelist to BM>gather the INA address but it's not. :(

    One of my connects and I do FTP, as the message echoes are via QWK Networking, and I can do that via IREX. The rest are through BinkP with standard FIDOnet style packets.

    I am working on setting up Argus, if I absolutely have to go with it.

    I'll look a little deeper into my end. Send me a netmail and see what BM>happens... and then post your log here..

    Well, the IREX log is over 11 megabytes in size, and zipping it may
    not trim it down that much. I can still send a netmail to you, though.

    Daryl

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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Daryl Stout on Mon Apr 21 17:27:00 2014
    Daryl Stout wrote to BILL MCGARRITY <=-

    Daryl..

    Last time I spoke to Charles I had the same issues. The 1000 node with
    erv
    function is necessary to read the FD nodelist. I'm still having issues
    ith
    but I removed the CM flag and everything get's routed to me except for what
    have in my node list. I'm still working on my FDNODE.CTL file but haven't

    the time lately. According to Charles it should read a compiled nodelist
    o
    gather the INA address but it's not. :(

    One of my connects and I do FTP, as the message echoes are via QWK Networking, and I can do that via IREX. The rest are through BinkP with standard FIDOnet style packets.

    I am working on setting up Argus, if I absolutely have to go with it.

    I'll look a little deeper into my end. Send me a netmail and see what
    happens... and then post your log here..

    Well, the IREX log is over 11 megabytes in size, and zipping it may
    not trim it down that much. I can still send a netmail to you, though.

    OK.. your netmail came routed through Janis which is what I expected without the CM. I tried polling your system and Irex gives the message Node not found.
    It's annoying to say the least. Try adding me into your node address list and do a poll. Don't set it as secure and lets see if my system accepts. I'll check the log.


    Bill

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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Daryl Stout on Mon Apr 21 17:53:00 2014
    Daryl Stout wrote to NICHOLAS BOEL <=-

    Nick...

    If you care to have successful connections from unlisted nodes, maybe
    ookin
    at another mailer would be an option for you?

    I am considering Argus. Marc Lewis came into the system remotely, and noted I may have a CORRUPT EXE with IREX for Windows. You could NEVER
    get the system to save the entry "accept connects from unlisted
    systems". While you could do it in the same session...when you exited REXCFGW, and reloaded it, the paramenter was back to "NO".

    If you read the docs that "option" is only available in the 1000 node server version.

    Binkd is a great mailer, otherwise I hear FMail for Windows is pretty good

    and has more of a GUI configuration than binkd does, I believe.

    One of my connects for QWK Networking gets the stuff transferred via
    FTP through IREX...the rest of them are via BinkP. If I could get it to where folks could connect to me, instead of my manually polling 4 times
    a day, that'd be great. I don't think Comcast is blocking the comport.

    Which, IMO, is bullshit. You shouldn't make people pay for a product you're
    going to support. Continued support is part of the reason you pay for a
    product. If you're not going to support it anymore, open source it, or sell
    to someone who will continue to support it. That's just how I feel about
    t,
    anyways.

    I tried.... but we did have a nice conversation via email.


    Bill

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Bill McGarrity on Tue Apr 22 11:09:13 2014
    Re: Re: DAEMON MODE
    By: Bill McGarrity to Daryl Stout on Mon Apr 21 2014 17:27:00

    the time lately. According to Charles it should read a compiled
    nodelist o
    gather the INA address but it's not. :(


    It does when you are setting up your nodes. That is the only time it will read a nodelist in my experience
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Daryl Stout on Tue Apr 22 11:07:37 2014
    Re: DAEMON MODE
    By: Daryl Stout to NICHOLAS BOEL on Mon Apr 21 2014 13:52:30

    I am considering Argus. Marc Lewis came into the system remotely, and noted I may have a CORRUPT EXE with IREX for Windows. You could NEVER
    get the system to save the entry "accept connects from unlisted
    systems". While you could do it in the same session...when you exited REXCFGW, and reloaded it, the paramenter was back to "NO".


    Why not simply put in new exe? Pretty sure you can still download Rex from various sources, and get an exe that is not corrupt.
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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Joe Delahaye on Tue Apr 22 18:15:00 2014
    Joe Delahaye wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Hiya Joe...

    By: Bill McGarrity to Daryl Stout on Mon Apr 21 2014 17:27:00

    the time lately. According to Charles it should read a compiled
    nodelist o
    gather the INA address but it's not. :(


    It does when you are setting up your nodes. That is the only time it
    will read a nodelist in my experience

    Last time I spoke with Charles he said it should. The issue is the INA doesn't show up in the compiled nodelist for FD. I've tried playing with the FDNODE.CTL file to see if will import that into the db.. nothing yet but marc gave me some ideas and I have to work on it... haven't had the time. :(

    Enjoy!


    Bill

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Bill McGarrity on Tue Apr 22 21:02:49 2014
    Re: Re: DAEMON MODE
    By: Bill McGarrity to Joe Delahaye on Tue Apr 22 2014 18:15:00

    Last time I spoke with Charles he said it should. The issue is the INA doesn't show up in the compiled nodelist for FD. I've tried playing with the FDNODE.CTL file to see if will import that into the db.. nothing yet but marc gave me some ideas and I have to work on it... haven't had the time. :(

    Hmm. I used to use Intermail as I purchased that years ago. It unfortunately is also abondonware. IM is a choice in Irex. For a Frontend now, I use Taurus, but only because I have some nodes call in POTS at times, and I still have an active phone line.


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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Joe Delahaye on Tue Apr 22 22:58:00 2014
    Joe Delahaye wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Re: Re: DAEMON MODE
    By: Bill McGarrity to Joe Delahaye on Tue Apr 22 2014 18:15:00

    Last time I spoke with Charles he said it should. The issue is the INA doesn't show up in the compiled nodelist for FD. I've tried playing with the FDNODE.CTL file to see if will import that into the db.. nothing yet but marc gave me some ideas and I have to work on it... haven't had the time. :(

    Hmm. I used to use Intermail as I purchased that years ago. It unfortunately is also abondonware. IM is a choice in Irex. For a
    Frontend now, I use Taurus, but only because I have some nodes call in POTS at times, and I still have an active phone line.

    Well, there is some word that JoHo may do a little magic on FD and put binkp in it... who knows. I guess if he needs $$ he will.. lol.


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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Bill McGarrity on Wed Apr 23 09:17:53 2014
    Re: Re: DAEMON MODE
    By: Bill McGarrity to Joe Delahaye on Tue Apr 22 2014 22:58:00

    Hmm. I used to use Intermail as I purchased that years ago. It
    unfortunately is also abondonware. IM is a choice in Irex. For a
    Frontend now, I use Taurus, but only because I have some nodes call
    in POTS at times, and I still have an active phone line.

    Well, there is some word that JoHo may do a little magic on FD and put binkp in it... who knows. I guess if he needs $$ he will.. lol.

    There is always DB. You can turn off mail processing in it, and it does both DB and POTS (I thinkk)
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.71 to Joe Delahaye on Wed Apr 23 11:23:58 2014

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Joe Delahaye wrote to Daryl Stout:

    I am considering Argus. Marc Lewis came into the system remotely,
    and noted I may have a CORRUPT EXE with IREX for Windows. You
    could NEVER get the system to save the entry "accept connects from unlisted systems". While you could do it in the same
    session...when you exited REXCFGW, and reloaded it, the paramenter
    was back to "NO".

    Why not simply put in new exe? Pretty sure you can still download
    Rex from various sources, and get an exe that is not corrupt.

    or just delete the existing one and pull a new copy out of the original archive... back in the early 90s, some of us saw problems with trying to overwrite corrupted executables with a new copy... no clue as to why but deleting the original and then replacing it with a new copy worked every time...

    it is also possible that the config is corrupted... IIRC, some folks maintain a
    backup copy of the config so they can replace it when they have problems from it becoming corrupted...

    if all else fails, one might also use a binary editor on the config and change the necessary item to the desired value... of course, this will only work if one knows where the value is in the binary config, knows what the desired value
    should be and the system doesn't calculate some sort of checksum to ensure the config is not altered outside of the config program...

    )\/(ark

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.71 to Bill McGarrity on Wed Apr 23 11:28:50 2014

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Bill McGarrity wrote to Joe Delahaye:

    It does when you are setting up your nodes. That is the only time
    it will read a nodelist in my experience

    Last time I spoke with Charles he said it should. The issue is
    the INA doesn't show up in the compiled nodelist for FD.

    it doesn't and shouldn't... IIRC, INA was invented/implemented after the last release of FD...

    I've tried playing with the FDNODE.CTL file to see if will import
    that into the db.. nothing yet but marc gave me some ideas and I
    have to work on it... haven't had the time. :(

    whatever is done would have to be done using another format than FD's compiled nodelist indexes...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to mark lewis on Wed Apr 23 13:23:03 2014
    Re: DAEMON MODE
    By: mark lewis to Joe Delahaye on Wed Apr 23 2014 11:23:58

    Why not simply put in new exe? Pretty sure you can still download
    Rex from various sources, and get an exe that is not corrupt.

    or just delete the existing one and pull a new copy out of the original archive... back in the early 90s, some of us saw problems with trying to overwrite corrupted executables with a new copy... no clue as to why but deleting the original and then replacing it with a new copy worked every time...

    I suggested a new archived version because his might be corrupted and could be the cause of a corrupted exe. Of course you would delete the corrupted exe first <G>


    it is also possible that the config is corrupted... IIRC, some folks maintain a backup copy of the config so they can replace it when they have problems from it becoming corrupted...

    Yes, I have that. Several of us have been subject to a corrupt config file

    if all else fails, one might also use a binary editor on the config and change the necessary item to the desired value... of course, this will only work if one knows where the value is in the binary config, knows what the desired value should be and the system doesn't calculate some sort of checksum to ensure the config is not altered outside of the config program...

    That will likely require more knowledge then a lot are capable of, including me now.
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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to mark lewis on Wed Apr 23 20:46:00 2014
    mark lewis wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Hiya mark...


    On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Bill McGarrity wrote to Joe Delahaye:

    It does when you are setting up your nodes. That is the only time
    it will read a nodelist in my experience

    Last time I spoke with Charles he said it should. The issue is
    the INA doesn't show up in the compiled nodelist for FD.

    it doesn't and shouldn't... IIRC, INA was invented/implemented after
    the last release of FD...

    I've tried playing with the FDNODE.CTL file to see if will import
    that into the db.. nothing yet but marc gave me some ideas and I
    have to work on it... haven't had the time. :(

    whatever is done would have to be done using another format than FD's compiled nodelist indexes...

    I know, I still have your netmail explaining how you did it. I'll get around to it.. :)

    Thanks


    Bill

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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Joe Delahaye on Wed Apr 23 21:04:00 2014
    Joe Delahaye wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-


    Well, there is some word that JoHo may do a little magic on FD and put binkp in it... who knows. I guess if he needs $$ he will.. lol.

    There is always DB. You can turn off mail processing in it, and it
    does both DB and POTS (I thinkk)

    I have it here somewhere... have to look into it... :)


    Bill

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.71 to Joe Delahaye on Wed Apr 23 22:04:51 2014

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2014, Joe Delahaye wrote to mark lewis:

    Why not simply put in new exe? Pretty sure you can still download
    Rex from various sources, and get an exe that is not corrupt.

    or just delete the existing one and pull a new copy out of the
    original archive... back in the early 90s, some of us saw problems
    with trying to overwrite corrupted executables with a new copy...
    no clue as to why but deleting the original and then replacing it
    with a new copy worked every time...

    I suggested a new archived version because his might be corrupted
    and could be the cause of a corrupted exe. Of course you would
    delete the corrupted exe first <G>

    most people do not delete first... they extract over the top of... that's why i
    specifically mentioned it...

    it is also possible that the config is corrupted... IIRC, some
    folks maintain a backup copy of the config so they can replace it
    when they have problems from it becoming corrupted...

    Yes, I have that. Several of us have been subject to a corrupt
    config file

    ;) (not meant in a bad way)

    if all else fails, one might also use a binary editor on the
    config and change the necessary item to the desired value... of
    course, this will only work if one knows where the value is in the
    binary config, knows what the desired value should be and the
    system doesn't calculate some sort of checksum to ensure the
    config is not altered outside of the config program...

    That will likely require more knowledge then a lot are capable of, including me now.

    figuring out eh config layout isn't that hard, really... it just takes the process of elimination but when some sort of checksum is also involved, things are complicated, yes...

    eg: i recently figured out what config files i need to copy between two different allfix setups so they both have the same areas, links and search settings while maintaining their different mailer related settings... thankfully the original author saw fit to keep many option settings in separate
    config files which enabled me to do this ;)

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:218/700 to JOE DELAHAYE on Fri Apr 25 22:05:43 2014
    Joe...

    the time lately. According to Charles it should read a compiled
    nodelist o
    gather the INA address but it's not. :(

    I don't even have my nodelist in the IREX directory...although I have
    told the configuration program where it's located.

    Besides, I'm running Virtual Advanced, and I compile the nodelists
    with the VFIDO utility.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:218/700 to JOE DELAHAYE on Fri Apr 25 22:05:43 2014
    Joe...

    Why not simply put in new exe? Pretty sure you can still download Rex from JD>various sources, and get an exe that is not corrupt.

    I went back to 2.29, as it'd let me enter passwords for the nodes.

    And, I got a BETTER DEAL from Charles Cruden than what BMT Micro
    wanted to give me.

    Since I originally registered a 50 node version in 2001, he said that
    the $35 I paid qualified for an upgrade, and BMT Micro gave me a $10
    refund. So, now I have the 1000 node server version.

    One of my connects says that he's still having trouble connecting, but Comcast might be blocking the comport.

    However, I've been so busy helping my elderly Mom with tasks this
    week, and dealing with severe weather information, that I haven't had
    much time to work with the BBS lately.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:218/700 to JOE DELAHAYE on Fri Apr 25 22:05:43 2014
    Joe...

    Hmm. I used to use Intermail as I purchased that years ago. It unfortunate JD>is also abondonware. IM is a choice in Irex. For a Frontend now, I use Tauru JD>but only because I have some nodes call in POTS at times, and I still have a JD>active phone line.

    I too, used InterMail and InterEcho years ago, when I ran GT Power
    under dial-up. IM and IE are abandonware now, as you noted. I originally registered IREX in 2001.

    I don't have a dial-up line, due to cost, and the noisy phone lines.
    Several years ago, construction crews working out here cut underground
    cables like a knife through butter (even though they were clearly
    marked). Then, they left the holes uncovered, and that night, it poured
    rain, flooding the cables.

    Besides, with telnet, one can connect from virtually anywhere, with no
    long distance charges.

    Daryl

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Daryl Stout on Sat Apr 26 12:39:08 2014
    Re: DAEMON MODE
    By: Daryl Stout to JOE DELAHAYE on Fri Apr 25 2014 22:05:43

    One of my connects says that he's still having trouble connecting, but Comcast might be blocking the comport.


    Might simply be a case of Irex using the version 1.0 of Binkd even though it advertises something else. It is not 100% compatible with the binkd program. --- SBBSecho 2.27-Win32
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Daryl Stout on Sat Apr 26 12:42:27 2014
    Re: Re: DAEMON MODE
    By: Daryl Stout to JOE DELAHAYE on Fri Apr 25 2014 22:05:43

    I don't have a dial-up line, due to cost, and the noisy phone lines. Several years ago, construction crews working out here cut underground cables like a knife through butter (even though they were clearly
    marked). Then, they left the holes uncovered, and that night, it poured rain, flooding the cables.

    Besides, with telnet, one can connect from virtually anywhere, with no long distance charges.

    I had called Ma Bell to disconnect the second line due to cost reasons <G> Instead they made me an offer Icouldnt refuse. No charge for second line <G> If and when it starts to be charged for again, it will disappear.

    I use Taurus, because it is 32 bit, and I needed a 32 bit front end to enable a pots to telnet utiltiy. The call is received by the bbs as a telnet connection.
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Daryl Stout on Sat Apr 26 12:36:35 2014
    Re: Re: DAEMON MODE
    By: Daryl Stout to JOE DELAHAYE on Fri Apr 25 2014 22:05:43

    I don't even have my nodelist in the IREX directory...although I have told the configuration program where it's located.

    Besides, I'm running Virtual Advanced, and I compile the nodelists
    with the VFIDO utility.



    I have mine in a central location and the various programs point to it <G> --- SBBSecho 2.27-Win32
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