I have IREX set to daemon mode, and to allow "unlisted systems" to connect.
However, I'm getting reports of several who try to connect via
BinkP, and they're getting a "connection refused" message.
Am I missing something?? Or should I just have my nodelist entries
entry of CM changed to MO??
Hello Daryl,
If they're coming to you with the reports, ask them what binkp service they' NB>using. There was just discussion in the MBSE echo of mbcico having to have a NB>option set to force a link into binkp v1.0 mode for Irex connections otherwi NB>there's errors. I think the same kind of stuff happens once in awhile using NB>binkd to connect with Irex systems as well, but noone has pinpointed the rea NB>problem there.
I think I'll just notify my hubs to change my nodelist entry from CM
to MO.
I think I'll just notify my hubs to change my nodelist entry
from CM to MO.
As far as I know, you should just add the MO flag. CM is Continuous Mail, NB>which would still be true for your system, wouldn't it?
MO is Mail Only. So it's basically saying you don't run a BBS there. If you NB>do run a BBS, you probably don't want to use that flag.
I believe in recent conversations in other echos, other mailers have been NB>moving into the future while Irex has been left behind without updates. NB>Problems are starting to arise in regards to that, but it seems most of thos NB>updated mailers have some sort of workaround in place to deal with Irex and NB>other mailers that will never be updated in the future. People that don't NB>connect with you all the time may not know that, though. So if they're tryin NB>to connect to you with something like mbcico and don't have the option set t NB>deal with Irex connections, the connection will fail. Just an FYI for future NB>reference, I suppose.
Daryl Stout wrote to NICHOLAS BOEL <=-
As far as I know, you should just add the MO flag. CM is Continuous Mail,hos
which would still be true for your system, wouldn't it?
MO is Mail Only. So it's basically saying you don't run a BBS there. If you
do run a BBS, you probably don't want to use that flag.
I am running the BBS, but even with changing IREX to "accept connects from unlisted nodes", and with ports 24554-24556 open in the router,
folks are still getting "connect refused". I have no idea what else to
do.
I believe in recent conversations in other echos, other mailers have been
moving into the future while Irex has been left behind without updates.
Problems are starting to arise in regards to that, but it seems most of
updated mailers have some sort of workaround in place to deal with Irex andryin
other mailers that will never be updated in the future. People that don't
connect with you all the time may not know that, though. So if they're
to connect to you with something like mbcico and don't have the option setuture
deal with Irex connections, the connection will fail. Just an FYI for
reference, I suppose.
I was running Argus awhile back, when I had dial-up. But, since I
don't have dial-up anymore, I don't use it. But, I may have to look at that to replace IREX for BinkP connects.
One rarely sees a post from Charles Cruden, IREX's author,
anymore...and while one can still register it through various websites, it's like any personal support is all but gone.
As far as I know, you should just add the MO flag. CM is Continuous
Mail, which would still be true for your system, wouldn't it?
MO is Mail Only. So it's basically saying you don't run a BBS
there. If you do run a BBS, you probably don't want to use that
flag.
I am running the BBS, but even with changing IREX to "accept
connects from unlisted nodes", and with ports 24554-24556 open in the router, folks are still getting "connect refused". I have no idea what else to do.
I was running Argus awhile back, when I had dial-up. But, since I
don't have dial-up anymore, I don't use it. But, I may have to look at that to replace IREX for BinkP connects.
One rarely sees a post from Charles Cruden, IREX's author,
anymore...and while one can still register it through various
websites, it's like any personal support is all but gone.
ummm... those two flags are not exclusive of each others... if you don't wan ML>CM, then just remove it... MO means there is not BBS behind the mailer...
If you care to have successful connections from unlisted nodes, maybe lookin NB>at another mailer would be an option for you?
Binkd is a great mailer, otherwise I hear FMail for Windows is pretty good t NB>and has more of a GUI configuration than binkd does, I believe.
Which, IMO, is bullshit. You shouldn't make people pay for a product you're NB>going to support. Continued support is part of the reason you pay for a NB>product. If you're not going to support it anymore, open source it, or sell NB>to someone who will continue to support it. That's just how I feel about it, NB>anyways.
Last time I spoke to Charles I had the same issues. The 1000 node with serv BM>function is necessary to read the FD nodelist. I'm still having issues with BM>but I removed the CM flag and everything get's routed to me except for what BM>have in my node list. I'm still working on my FDNODE.CTL file but haven't h BM>the time lately. According to Charles it should read a compiled nodelist to BM>gather the INA address but it's not. :(
I'll look a little deeper into my end. Send me a netmail and see what BM>happens... and then post your log here..
Daryl Stout wrote to BILL MCGARRITY <=-
Last time I spoke to Charles I had the same issues. The 1000 node witherv
function is necessary to read the FD nodelist. I'm still having issuesith
but I removed the CM flag and everything get's routed to me except for whato
have in my node list. I'm still working on my FDNODE.CTL file but haven't
the time lately. According to Charles it should read a compiled nodelist
gather the INA address but it's not. :(
One of my connects and I do FTP, as the message echoes are via QWK Networking, and I can do that via IREX. The rest are through BinkP with standard FIDOnet style packets.
I am working on setting up Argus, if I absolutely have to go with it.
I'll look a little deeper into my end. Send me a netmail and see what
happens... and then post your log here..
Well, the IREX log is over 11 megabytes in size, and zipping it may
not trim it down that much. I can still send a netmail to you, though.
Daryl Stout wrote to NICHOLAS BOEL <=-ookin
Nick...
If you care to have successful connections from unlisted nodes, maybe
at another mailer would be an option for you?
I am considering Argus. Marc Lewis came into the system remotely, and noted I may have a CORRUPT EXE with IREX for Windows. You could NEVER
get the system to save the entry "accept connects from unlisted
systems". While you could do it in the same session...when you exited REXCFGW, and reloaded it, the paramenter was back to "NO".
Binkd is a great mailer, otherwise I hear FMail for Windows is pretty goodt,
and has more of a GUI configuration than binkd does, I believe.
One of my connects for QWK Networking gets the stuff transferred via
FTP through IREX...the rest of them are via BinkP. If I could get it to where folks could connect to me, instead of my manually polling 4 times
a day, that'd be great. I don't think Comcast is blocking the comport.
Which, IMO, is bullshit. You shouldn't make people pay for a product you're
going to support. Continued support is part of the reason you pay for a
product. If you're not going to support it anymore, open source it, or sell
to someone who will continue to support it. That's just how I feel about
anyways.
the time lately. According to Charles it should read a compilednodelist o
gather the INA address but it's not. :(
I am considering Argus. Marc Lewis came into the system remotely, and noted I may have a CORRUPT EXE with IREX for Windows. You could NEVER
get the system to save the entry "accept connects from unlisted
systems". While you could do it in the same session...when you exited REXCFGW, and reloaded it, the paramenter was back to "NO".
Joe Delahaye wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-
By: Bill McGarrity to Daryl Stout on Mon Apr 21 2014 17:27:00
the time lately. According to Charles it should read a compilednodelist o
gather the INA address but it's not. :(
It does when you are setting up your nodes. That is the only time it
will read a nodelist in my experience
Last time I spoke with Charles he said it should. The issue is the INA doesn't show up in the compiled nodelist for FD. I've tried playing with the FDNODE.CTL file to see if will import that into the db.. nothing yet but marc gave me some ideas and I have to work on it... haven't had the time. :(
Joe Delahaye wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-
Re: Re: DAEMON MODE
By: Bill McGarrity to Joe Delahaye on Tue Apr 22 2014 18:15:00
Last time I spoke with Charles he said it should. The issue is the INA doesn't show up in the compiled nodelist for FD. I've tried playing with the FDNODE.CTL file to see if will import that into the db.. nothing yet but marc gave me some ideas and I have to work on it... haven't had the time. :(
Hmm. I used to use Intermail as I purchased that years ago. It unfortunately is also abondonware. IM is a choice in Irex. For a
Frontend now, I use Taurus, but only because I have some nodes call in POTS at times, and I still have an active phone line.
Hmm. I used to use Intermail as I purchased that years ago. It
unfortunately is also abondonware. IM is a choice in Irex. For a
Frontend now, I use Taurus, but only because I have some nodes call
in POTS at times, and I still have an active phone line.
Well, there is some word that JoHo may do a little magic on FD and put binkp in it... who knows. I guess if he needs $$ he will.. lol.
I am considering Argus. Marc Lewis came into the system remotely,
and noted I may have a CORRUPT EXE with IREX for Windows. You
could NEVER get the system to save the entry "accept connects from unlisted systems". While you could do it in the same
session...when you exited REXCFGW, and reloaded it, the paramenter
was back to "NO".
Why not simply put in new exe? Pretty sure you can still download
Rex from various sources, and get an exe that is not corrupt.
It does when you are setting up your nodes. That is the only time
it will read a nodelist in my experience
Last time I spoke with Charles he said it should. The issue is
the INA doesn't show up in the compiled nodelist for FD.
I've tried playing with the FDNODE.CTL file to see if will import
that into the db.. nothing yet but marc gave me some ideas and I
have to work on it... haven't had the time. :(
Why not simply put in new exe? Pretty sure you can still download
Rex from various sources, and get an exe that is not corrupt.
or just delete the existing one and pull a new copy out of the original archive... back in the early 90s, some of us saw problems with trying to overwrite corrupted executables with a new copy... no clue as to why but deleting the original and then replacing it with a new copy worked every time...
it is also possible that the config is corrupted... IIRC, some folks maintain a backup copy of the config so they can replace it when they have problems from it becoming corrupted...
if all else fails, one might also use a binary editor on the config and change the necessary item to the desired value... of course, this will only work if one knows where the value is in the binary config, knows what the desired value should be and the system doesn't calculate some sort of checksum to ensure the config is not altered outside of the config program...
mark lewis wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Bill McGarrity wrote to Joe Delahaye:
It does when you are setting up your nodes. That is the only time
it will read a nodelist in my experience
Last time I spoke with Charles he said it should. The issue is
the INA doesn't show up in the compiled nodelist for FD.
it doesn't and shouldn't... IIRC, INA was invented/implemented after
the last release of FD...
I've tried playing with the FDNODE.CTL file to see if will import
that into the db.. nothing yet but marc gave me some ideas and I
have to work on it... haven't had the time. :(
whatever is done would have to be done using another format than FD's compiled nodelist indexes...
Joe Delahaye wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-
Well, there is some word that JoHo may do a little magic on FD and put binkp in it... who knows. I guess if he needs $$ he will.. lol.
There is always DB. You can turn off mail processing in it, and it
does both DB and POTS (I thinkk)
Why not simply put in new exe? Pretty sure you can still download
Rex from various sources, and get an exe that is not corrupt.
or just delete the existing one and pull a new copy out of the
original archive... back in the early 90s, some of us saw problems
with trying to overwrite corrupted executables with a new copy...
no clue as to why but deleting the original and then replacing it
with a new copy worked every time...
I suggested a new archived version because his might be corrupted
and could be the cause of a corrupted exe. Of course you would
delete the corrupted exe first <G>
it is also possible that the config is corrupted... IIRC, some
folks maintain a backup copy of the config so they can replace it
when they have problems from it becoming corrupted...
Yes, I have that. Several of us have been subject to a corrupt
config file
if all else fails, one might also use a binary editor on the
config and change the necessary item to the desired value... of
course, this will only work if one knows where the value is in the
binary config, knows what the desired value should be and the
system doesn't calculate some sort of checksum to ensure the
config is not altered outside of the config program...
That will likely require more knowledge then a lot are capable of, including me now.
the time lately. According to Charles it should read a compilednodelist o
gather the INA address but it's not. :(
Why not simply put in new exe? Pretty sure you can still download Rex from JD>various sources, and get an exe that is not corrupt.
Hmm. I used to use Intermail as I purchased that years ago. It unfortunate JD>is also abondonware. IM is a choice in Irex. For a Frontend now, I use Tauru JD>but only because I have some nodes call in POTS at times, and I still have a JD>active phone line.
One of my connects says that he's still having trouble connecting, but Comcast might be blocking the comport.
I don't have a dial-up line, due to cost, and the noisy phone lines. Several years ago, construction crews working out here cut underground cables like a knife through butter (even though they were clearly
marked). Then, they left the holes uncovered, and that night, it poured rain, flooding the cables.
Besides, with telnet, one can connect from virtually anywhere, with no long distance charges.
I don't even have my nodelist in the IREX directory...although I have told the configuration program where it's located.
Besides, I'm running Virtual Advanced, and I compile the nodelists
with the VFIDO utility.
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